--- Log opened Tue Apr 03 00:00:02 2007 00:10 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: mqueiros, CIA-18, @ChanServ, _Ragnar__, LMJ, dragon_cz, sepp, mtr, th, sparc-kly 00:10 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: CIA-12 00:11 -!- Netsplit over, joins: CIA-12 00:12 -!- Netsplit over, joins: @ChanServ, th, LMJ, mqueiros, CIA-18, mtr, _Ragnar__, sepp, sparc-kly 00:13 -!- Netsplit over, joins: dragon_cz 01:15 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@kobz-590cb2cf.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #t2 01:22 -!- mtr [n=Michael@kobz-590cb575.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 01:22 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr 01:27 -!- _Ragnar__ is now known as R4gnar0k 01:58 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 02:02 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:00 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: mtr 03:02 -!- Netsplit over, joins: mtr 03:22 -!- idealm [n=ideal@c58-107-18-60.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #t2 03:45 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 03:56 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 04:05 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 04:29 -!- mqueiros [n=mqueiros@c-217-70-66-31.bragatel.pt] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 04:58 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 05:05 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 05:40 -!- emte_ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 05:42 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:44 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: dragon_cz 05:44 -!- Netsplit over, joins: dragon_cz 08:38 -!- idealm [n=ideal@c58-107-18-60.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:28 < rxr> re 09:28 [Users #t2] 09:28 [@ChanServ] [ dragon_cz] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ th ] 09:28 [ AStorm ] [ emte_ ] [ R4gnar0k] [ sparc-kly] [ TobiX ] 09:28 [ CIA-18 ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ Stelz ] [ valentin] 09:28 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal] 09:34 < CIA-18> rene * r23377 /trunk/package/security/axtls/axtls.desc: * updated axtls (1.1.2 -> 1.1.4) 10:04 < CIA-18> rene * r23378 /trunk/package/network/madwifi/ (macbook.patch madwifi.desc): * updated madwifi (0.9.30.10-r2230-20070328 -> 0.9.30.10-r2249-20070329) 10:05 < CIA-18> susan * r23381 /trunk/package/network/xmlrpc-c/xmlrpc-c.desc: * updated xmlrpc-c (1.09.00 -> 1.10.00) 10:05 < CIA-18> susan * r23379 /trunk/package/gnome2/xchat/xchat.desc: * updated xchat (2.8.0 -> 2.8.2) 10:05 < CIA-18> susan * r23380 /trunk/package/audio/qjackctl/qjackctl.desc: * updated qjackctl (0.2.21 -> 0.2.22) 10:05 < rxr> http://www.sics.se/contiki/ 10:05 < rxr> ^- :-)) 10:08 < rxr> http://books.slashdot.org/books/07/04/02/1441203.shtml 10:08 < rxr> ^- Beginning Lua Programming 10:09 < CIA-18> rene * r23382 /trunk/package/textproc/libmrss/ (. libmrss.cache libmrss.desc): * added libmrss (0.17.1) - A C library for parsing, writing, and creating RSS feeds 10:09 < CIA-18> rene * r23383 /trunk/package/security/samhain/samhain.desc: * updated samhain (2.3.2 -> 2.3.3) 10:15 < CIA-18> rene * r23384 /trunk/package/security/libprelude/libprelude.desc: * updated libprelude (0.9.13.1 -> 0.9.13.2) 10:18 < CIA-18> rene * r23385 /trunk/package/security/libnids/ (libnids.conf libnids.desc): * updated libnids (1.20 -> 1.21) 10:21 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.161.24.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 10:21 < rxr> moin sepp_ 10:23 < CIA-18> rene * r23386 /trunk/package/security/libfwbuilder/libfwbuilder.desc: * updated libfwbuilder (2.1.8 -> 2.1.10) 10:29 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.176.151.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 10:58 < CIA-18> mtr * r23387 /trunk/package/audio/libao/libao.conf: * fixed typo on libao.conf: pkginsatleld -> pkginstalled 10:58 < mtr> moin 10:59 < mtr> rxr: about the libjpeg LIBTOOL issue, i#ve reverted locally and it compiles again :-) 11:07 -!- idealm [n=ideal@c58-107-18-60.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #t2 11:09 < rxr> mtr: the prev. revision did not compile for AVR32 on x86-64 11:09 < rxr> I take a look when my first pass of the new reference builder finished# 11:09 < rxr> should have a quite complete picture about the trunk state then 11:15 < mtr> yeah, ok, just wanted to mention that in general the libjpeg cross compilation works with the system libtool 11:16 -!- TobiX [i=tobias@zoidberg.org] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:20 -!- TobiX [i=tobias@zoidberg.org] has joined #t2 11:24 [Users #t2] 11:24 [@ChanServ] [ dragon_cz] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ Stelz] [ valentin] 11:24 [ AStorm ] [ emte_ ] [ mtr ] [ sepp_ ] [ th ] 11:24 [ CIA-18 ] [ idealm ] [ R4gnar0k] [ sparc-kly] [ TobiX] 11:24 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal] 11:28 < CIA-18> rene * r23388 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-video-i810/xf86-video-i810.desc: * updated xf86-video-i810 (1.9.93 -> 1.9.94) 11:52 -!- dragon_cz [i=1000@mjolnir.sh.cvut.cz] has quit ["My damn controlling terminal disappeared!"] 12:15 [Users #t2] 12:15 [@ChanServ] [ emte_ ] [ mtr ] [ sepp_ ] [ th ] 12:15 [ AStorm ] [ idealm] [ R4gnar0k] [ sparc-kly] [ TobiX ] 12:15 [ CIA-18 ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ Stelz ] [ valentin] 12:15 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal] 12:16 -!- dragon_cz [i=1000@mjolnir.sh.cvut.cz] has joined #t2 12:17 -!- dragon_cz [i=1000@mjolnir.sh.cvut.cz] has quit [Client Quit] 13:30 < CIA-18> rene * r23389 /trunk/package/sparc/silo/silo.conf: * fixed silo to really cross build by using the actual cross-linker 13:30 < CIA-18> rene * r23390 /trunk/package/sparc/silo/ufs.patch: * fixed silo for latest linux-headers not installing the fs_ufs headers anymore 13:40 < rxr> http://golem.de/0704/51495.html 13:40 < rxr> ^- Test: Apple TV - Stromfresser mit ungenutztem Potenzial 13:51 < rxr> In LGs Prada-Handy steckt AMD-Technik 13:51 < rxr> Imageon-Media-Prozessor ?bernimmt Multimediafunktionen in LG-Handy 13:51 < rxr> http://www.golem.de/0704/51497.html 14:16 < CIA-18> rene * r23391 /trunk/package/multimedia/unicap/ (. unicap.cache unicap.desc): * added unicap (0.2.4) - A video capture library 14:16 < CIA-18> rene * r23392 /trunk/package/multimedia/ucview/ (. ucview.cache ucview.desc): * added ucview (0.3) - A video image capture and recording application 14:45 < CIA-18> rene * r23393 /trunk/package/network/libupnp/ (. libupnp.cache libupnp.desc): * added libupnp (1.4.3) - Portable SDK for UPnP Devices 15:13 -!- idealm [n=ideal@c58-107-18-60.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:38 -!- Capey [n=admin@a88-112-197-236.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #t2 15:41 [Users #t2] 15:41 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-18] [ mtr ] [ sepp_ ] [ th ] 15:41 [ AStorm ] [ emte_ ] [ R4gnar0k] [ sparc-kly] [ TobiX ] 15:41 [ Capey ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ Stelz ] [ valentin] 15:41 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal] 15:41 < rxr> hi Capey 15:45 < Capey> hi rxr 15:59 < Capey> Building src/luabash.so. LINK LIB /t2/t2-trunk/src/Linux-x86_64/lua/lua.a 15:59 < Capey> make: *** [/t2/t2-trunk/src/Linux-x86_64/lua/lua.a] Error 1 15:59 < Capey> Error building the LUA bash accelerator. 16:07 < rxr> that error is it? 16:07 < rxr> g++ not there of ELF format not matching ? 16:21 < rxr> heh - cool, at least I still have my old regression tester coloring and test matching scripts 16:25 < Capey> must be of ELF format not matchine 16:26 < Capey> but ./Config works after i have done ./Cleanup 16:26 < rxr> yes 16:26 < rxr> this is a know regression since the introduction of the luabash 16:27 < rxr> for some yet unreviewed reason the "inside chroot" build of the Config helper and thus luabash overwrites the same files as used in the outside chroot world 16:27 < rxr> to be honest I did not even bothered to take a look at that 16:27 < rxr> most probably a one-liner 16:27 < rxr> and yes, we should fix this soon ... :-) 16:28 < CIA-18> rene * r23394 /trunk/package/develop/srecord/srecord.desc: * updated srecord (1.29 -> 1.31) 16:38 < Capey> :) 17:03 < rxr> btw, if you start web code for the wrt2, I would prefer if you use Lua of it ... :-) 17:05 < rxr> if you do not yet know m0n0nwall, http://m0n0.ch/wall/, you might consider taking a look for open source web based firewall++ management .-) 17:14 < Capey> rxr: yep, lua. other solutions might take quite much of space 17:17 < CIA-18> rene * r23395 /trunk/package/filesystem/cdrkit/cdrkit.desc: * updated cdrkit (1.1.2 -> 1.1.4) 17:17 < rxr> m0n0wall even uses php 17:18 < rxr> I really wonder why they did that ... 17:18 < rxr> lua is not way more cleaner, also more lightweight 17:18 < rxr> ideally we could use that for the linksys and simillar hardware and normal PC-live images, simillar to m0n0wall 17:21 < rxr> do you know if the {Open,Free}WRT variants gained web management these days? 17:22 < CIA-18> rene * r23396 /trunk/package/perl/perl-latexml/perl-latexml.desc: * updated perl-latexml (0.5.0 -> 0.5.1) 17:35 < Capey> no custom ones that i know off, one of those variants did have web based image build that let you customize the software selections and i think it had some general solution like webmin or so 17:35 < Capey> but i think webmin is over featured for this type 17:36 < Capey> but dont know if webmin can be tailored out to just include needed features 17:40 * mtr using dd-wrt on a linksys device 17:41 < rxr> mtr: Capey (and I) are currently reading wrt2 ... 17:41 < rxr> Capey: yeah - no webmin ... 17:41 < mtr> with well & nice web management 17:41 < rxr> Capey: something like this m0n0wall or common original firmware web management for nice, slick and slim management 17:42 < rxr> some nice, clean Lua framework that could be reused for other web enabled devices from Firewall, over NAS to media streaming boxes, VoIP, ... 17:42 < Capey> yep 17:43 < Capey> m0n0wall looked quite clean on the UI side, so i'd go something like that. never really used that so i dont know if its really usable but it did look cleanish 17:45 < rxr> never used it too 17:45 < rxr> know it since 1 1/2 years to use by a client of mine ... 17:45 < rxr> it's FreeBSD + PHP 17:45 < rxr> I would not have choosen either, but the gui looked good 17:45 < rxr> I mostly keep it in mind to GUI cloning ideas ... 17:47 < Capey> hmm, 680 euros for PS3 17:47 < Capey> i should try to sell this ex-box and upgrade to PS3 17:48 < rxr> ex-box ? 17:48 < Capey> xbox 360 :) 17:48 < rxr> Capey: we got a PS3 for the office, with just 256 it really os not too well suited for Linux 17:48 < rxr> and you need a HDCP display if you want to do serios X11 Linux work ... 17:49 < rxr> we just do it for completeness in T2 PPC port ... 17:49 < Capey> yeah, it got so little memory, i wonder the design decision of that 17:49 < rxr> for a gaming console it is much 17:49 < rxr> the hardware is overall quite high-end for a gaming console 17:49 < rxr> it is just that for a non-game OS it is not too much RAM ... 17:49 < rxr> but on the other hand it is some Rambus "hyper-fast" RAM ... 17:50 < rxr> if you just need xterms and other normal apps (like kHTML in Konqeuror) the box will be quite fine 17:50 < rxr> just dragging memory hungry Firefox, Thunderbird or OOo around the whole days will be sloooow 17:50 < Capey> well memory is quite limited for gaming too, i once read an article on xbox 360 that initial version had 256 too but one gaming company got wish through and they upgraded to 512 17:50 < rxr> and you have neither 2D nor 3D GFX acceleration under Linux for the time beeing 17:51 < rxr> as the hypervisor shields the NVidia GFX chip and the WiFi chip 17:51 < Capey> is it true that linux cant atm use all the cores of PS3? 17:51 < Capey> or some of its logic units 17:52 < rxr> linux can use the dual-core PPC970 and 6 of the Cell SPUs 17:52 < rxr> the only stuff that can not be used is 1 of the SPUs (I think the hypervisor runs on it) and the GFX chip and WiFI 17:52 < rxr> the rest is useable 17:53 < rxr> so you "only" have a framebuffer device X draws into 17:53 < rxr> that is of course fine for normal daily office and development stuff 17:53 < rxr> just not for high-fidelity video and 3d ... 17:54 < Capey> hmm, theres an similar attempt to put linux on xbox 360 as it was on the previous xbox version 17:54 < rxr> yes, it runs already, if you crack the hypervisor open with some game, such as donkey kong or so ... 17:54 < Capey> for 300euro testing box i could one day try that 17:54 < rxr> all a bit hackery on that bo ... 17:55 < rxr> (but that hypervisor hole was already closed on the x360 17:55 < rxr> if you get a decent box you need to wait or hunt a new hole to boot linux thru it ... 17:55 < Capey> this site claims that they can run user code on xbox 360 and already have handfull of kernel patches and second stage bootloader 17:56 < rxr> those Xenon (or what the code name was) X-Box 360 PPC patches have been scrolling by the linux-ppc list some weeks ago ... 17:56 < rxr> yes, but the hole in the hypervisor used to boot linux is closed in the latest firmware already 17:56 < Capey> yep 17:56 < rxr> you must have a box with the previous firmware release at least 2 month old or so ... 17:58 < Capey> btw. do you know if Cell is going to be on server/workstation pc? 17:58 < Capey> there has been rumours but never seen if its confirmed 17:58 < Capey> oh damm 17:58 < Capey> gotta go back to work 17:58 < rxr> on server systems yes 17:59 < rxr> IBM and Toshiba or so are reading it for carriet grade and such appliances 17:59 < Capey> i'll be back next week monday/tuesday unless i have time when i get back home or tomorrow morning 18:00 < rxr> ok - cu 18:00 < rxr> and have fun 18:09 < CIA-18> rene * r23397 /trunk/package/perl/perl-html-table/perl-html-table.desc: * updated perl-html-table (2.04a -> 2.05) 18:09 < CIA-18> rene * r23398 /trunk/package/perl/perl-template-toolkit/perl-template-toolkit.desc: * updated perl-template-toolkit (2.14 -> 2.51) 18:10 < CIA-18> rene * r23399 /trunk/package/perl/perl-devel-stacktrace/perl-devel-stacktrace.desc: * updated perl-devel-stacktrace (1.12 -> 1.14) 18:12 < CIA-18> rene * r23400 /trunk/package/perl/perl-asterisk/perl-asterisk.desc: * updated perl-asterisk (0.08 -> 0.09) 18:12 < CIA-18> rene * r23401 /trunk/package/perl/perl-netaddr-ip/perl-netaddr-ip.desc: * updated perl-netaddr-ip (3.028 -> 4.004) 18:12 < CIA-18> rene * r23402 /trunk/package/perl/perl-digest-sha1/perl-digest-sha1.desc: * updated perl-digest-sha1 (2.10 -> 2.11) 18:14 < CIA-18> rene * r23403 /trunk/package/perl/perl-class-data-inheritable/perl-class-data-inheritable.desc: * updated perl-class-data-inheritable (0.04 -> 0.06) 18:20 < CIA-18> rene * r23404 /trunk/package/perl/perl-gtk2/perl-gtk2.desc: * updated perl-gtk2 (1.141 -> 1.144) 18:23 < CIA-18> rene * r23405 /trunk/package/perl/perl-dbd-mysql/perl-dbd-mysql.desc: * updated perl-dbd-mysql (2.9006 -> 2.9008) 18:23 < CIA-18> rene * r23406 /trunk/package/perl/perl-class-accessor/perl-class-accessor.desc: * updated perl-class-accessor (0.22 -> 0.30) 18:27 < CIA-18> rene * r23407 /trunk/package/perl/perl-anyevent/perl-anyevent.desc: * updated perl-anyevent (1.02 -> 2.52) 18:28 < rxr> so - that was all unprocessed perl from the last 1 1/2 years of t2-updates :-) 18:29 < rxr> down to 224 unread and 676 mails in total in that folder 18:29 < rxr> tomorrow I'll chooce the next update topic, maybe plone or so :-) 18:29 [Users #t2] 18:29 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-18] [ mtr ] [ sepp_ ] [ th ] 18:29 [ AStorm ] [ emte_ ] [ R4gnar0k] [ sparc-kly] [ TobiX ] 18:29 [ Capey ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ Stelz ] [ valentin] 18:29 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal] 18:41 -!- mqueiros [n=mqueiros@c-217-70-65-169.bragatel.pt] has joined #t2 18:59 < CIA-18> rene * r23408 /trunk/package/graphic/imagemagick/ (imagemagick.desc multilib-fix.patch): * updated imagemagick (6.3.2-9 -> 6.3.3-5) 19:13 < rxr> so - off for today 19:13 < R4gnar0k> moin moin 19:13 < rxr> (continuing to install naturally speaking in a VM at home ... 19:13 < rxr> so I can dictate the other half of the T2 book :-) 19:13 < rxr> hi R4gnar0k 19:13 < rxr> R4gnar0k: good to catch you - I have one question 19:13 < R4gnar0k> ooh o_o 19:14 < rxr> it was brought up here that the r1000 driver is since 2.6.20 or so, by some in-kernel driver 19:14 < rxr> as you added the r1000 driver you might have some preference or test results ? 19:15 < R4gnar0k> I haven't tested the in kernel one yet, but the module has a problem 19:16 < R4gnar0k> wait ... o_o nvm I'm confusing things 19:17 < R4gnar0k> well I guess I should get my friend to test the in-kernel one 19:18 < rxr> I think it was just the ID and some conditional to some in-kernel one, it's not named r1000 19:18 < rxr> I can look it up if you like 19:19 < CIA-18> rene * r23409 /trunk/package/emulators/qemu/qemu.desc: * removed obsolete qvm86 Url from qemu 19:21 < rxr> > The r8169 driver which is in the kernel should have the same 19:21 < rxr> > functionality. 19:21 < rxr> ^- R4gnar0k -^ 19:21 [Users #t2] 19:21 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-18] [ mqueiros] [ rxr ] [ Stelz] [ valentin] 19:21 [ AStorm ] [ emte_ ] [ mtr ] [ sepp_ ] [ th ] 19:21 [ Capey ] [ LMJ ] [ R4gnar0k] [ sparc-kly] [ TobiX] 19:21 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal] 19:21 < rxr> ... - 19:21 < rxr> It does indeed, but I think this support was only added recently; I believe 19:21 < rxr> the first kernel version to support it was 2.6.19. Support is certainly in 19:21 < rxr> the 2.6.20-rc kernels, as I'm using it. 19:22 < rxr> so - cu 19:22 < R4gnar0k> yea I read that they imported the driver 19:22 < R4gnar0k> so I guess the r1000 pkg is obsolete 19:35 < LMJ> min moin 21:06 -!- misl [n=chatzill@84-104-172-187.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 21:06 < misl> hi folks 21:13 -!- Capey [n=admin@a88-112-197-236.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:38 < mtr> hi misl 21:38 < misl> hi mtr 22:52 -!- misl [n=chatzill@84-104-172-187.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.11/2007031202]"] 23:05 < CIA-18> mtr * r23410 /trunk/package/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 23:05 < CIA-18> * fixed ntp cross compilation 23:05 < CIA-18> * adapted runit patch 23:23 -!- d-marc [n=d-marc@HSI-KBW-085-216-123-106.hsi.kabelbw.de] has joined #t2 23:23 -!- d-marc [n=d-marc@HSI-KBW-085-216-123-106.hsi.kabelbw.de] has left #t2 ["Time makes no sense"] 23:33 -!- AStorm [n=astralst@chello089076180089.chello.pl] has quit ["WeeChat 0.2.3"] --- Log closed Wed Apr 04 00:00:03 2007