--- Log opened Mon Apr 02 00:00:01 2007 00:19 -!- Kleper [n=Kleper@190.24.32.185] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:15 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@kobz-590cb575.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #t2 01:15 -!- mqueiros [n=mqueiros@c-217-70-66-31.bragatel.pt] has joined #t2 01:23 -!- mtr [n=Michael@kobz-590cab83.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 01:23 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr 01:42 -!- bendiken [n=bendiken@31.Red-80-32-23.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [] 01:48 -!- baconman [n=sam@c-24-60-166-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #t2 01:48 < baconman> hi guys 01:49 < baconman> can I run gasgui as a GUI package manager 01:49 < baconman> ANYONE 01:50 < baconman> PLEASE ANSWER ME 01:53 -!- baconman [n=sam@c-24-60-166-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has left #t2 [] 03:54 -!- mqueiros [n=mqueiros@c-217-70-66-31.bragatel.pt] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 07:31 -!- Stelz [i=stelz@unaffiliated/stelz] has quit ["I wanna live my life like thunder!"] 07:33 -!- Stelz [i=stelz@unaffiliated/stelz] has joined #t2 08:14 -!- _Ragnar__ [n=loki@D8FA4DE6.ptr.dia.nextlink.net] has joined #t2 08:20 -!- R4gnar0k [n=loki@D8FA4DE6.ptr.dia.nextlink.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:56 < rxr> re 09:12 < rxr> sepp: there is a new pixie out there ... 09:12 < CIA-18> susan * r23362 /trunk/package/emulators/wine/wine.desc: * updated wine (0.9.33 -> 0.9.34) 09:12 < rxr> sepp: The automatic update tracker has identified the file(s): 09:12 < rxr> sepp: Pixie-src-2.1.1 09:51 < CIA-18> rene * r23363 /branches/6.0/package/base/embutils/losetup.patch: 09:51 < CIA-18> * merged and rediffed r21699 from trunk: improved our embutils/losetup 09:51 < CIA-18> patch to avoid returning random garbage as return code 09:58 < rxr> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/87712 10:19 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.176.151.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 10:28 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p85.212.56.160.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 10:36 < rxr> damn - have to hunt a embutils/rm -rf bus error on sparc before the LiveCD can go out 10:36 < rxr> the above merge also is what I found during live/sparc64 testing ... 11:26 < CIA-18> rene * r23364 /branches/6.0/package/base/embutils/ls-gcc-4.1-sparc-mis-opt.patch: * fixed embutils/rm for GCC unalligned load issues on at least sparc64, likewise 11:28 < CIA-18> rene * r23365 /trunk/package/base/embutils/ls-gcc-4.1-sparc-mis-opt.patch: 11:28 < CIA-18> * merged r23364 from branches/6.0: * fixed embutils/rm for GCC 11:28 < CIA-18> unaligned load issues on at least sparc64, likewise 11:33 < CIA-18> mtr * r23366 /trunk/package/base/uclibc/patches/binutils-100-uclibc-conf.patch: * adapted uclibc's patch for latest binutils update 11:33 < rxr> hey mtr 11:34 < mtr> moin moin rxr :-) 11:36 < rxr> how are you mtr ? 11:36 [Users #t2] 11:36 [@ChanServ ] [ CIA-18 ] [ mtr ] [ sparc-kly] [ TobiX ] 11:36 [ _Ragnar__] [ dragon_cz] [ rxr ] [ Stelz ] [ valentin] 11:36 [ AStorm ] [ LMJ ] [ sepp_] [ th ] 11:36 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal] 11:36 < CIA-18> rene * r23367 /branches/6.0/package/base/gmp/endianess-cross.patch: 11:36 < CIA-18> * fixed gmp to not overwrite the configure endianess to undefined, 11:36 < CIA-18> as we actually already pre-cache it (trunk is not affected, as 11:36 < CIA-18> gmp-4.2 no longer wipes the value) 11:38 < mtr> thanks rene, fine so far, my TODO is growing faster than i am able to work on it ... 11:38 < rxr> T2 TODO or work TODO ? 11:38 < mtr> both ;-) 11:38 < rxr> (I have over 200 tickets in my desktop KDE "basket" 11:38 < rxr> ) 11:41 < mtr> what do you think about the CROSS flag, 11:42 < rxr> start adding it :-) 11:42 < mtr> we should tag all those pkgs that currently dcross-compile in a single commit ? 11:42 < rxr> maybe even tweak the current packages to have less stage 1 marks so normal native builds only get cross build what is needed to bootstap the system 11:42 < rxr> yes, single commits, otherwise stuff is not nicely revert and mergeable ... 11:43 < rxr> I can do the CROSS tagging though 11:43 < rxr> we could then mark stage1 what's needed to bootstap only, save some build cycles for most people 11:43 < mtr> ack 11:43 < rxr> and when the CROSS option is set, let add the 1 stage mark on all CROSS packages 11:44 < rxr> + I'll have a dedicated CROSS build test on the regression tester I just set up 11:44 < rxr> so we can test-build automatically what we know once cross build 11:44 < mtr> yep, sounds good 11:44 < rxr> + we can advertise the cross-ability of packages in the online package matrix 11:45 < rxr> or better yet advertise the negated form: "Remark: This package is not yet cross aware" in absense of the flag - so people browsing the packages, e.g. the original authors get a notice to work on it 11:46 < rxr> ok - will do all this next time I touch the cross build stuff this week 11:46 < mtr> hmm, i am not sure, i think the positive indication would be enough, since a lot of packages (kde, gnome, ...) wuold be really hard to X-compile 11:48 < rxr> but nice to be able too 11:49 < rxr> e.g. a minimal live build nearly consumes a week on the 360MHz UltraSPARC 11:49 < rxr> would be awesome to cross bulid firefox et al. :-)) 11:49 < mtr> if could ever get rid of this autocrap stuff ... 11:50 < rxr> or libtool .... 11:52 -!- idealm [n=ideal@c58-107-18-60.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #t2 12:07 < rxr> http://osiris.tfh-berlin.de/mirror/t2/stable/6.0.3/minimal-desktop-live-sparc64/ 12:08 < rxr> valentin: ^- tested to even bring up a Sun Creator 3D up correctly :-)) 12:08 < rxr> our LiveCD technology (tm) really rocks, we just have to wrap it more colorful and advertise it appropriately ... 12:28 < CIA-18> rene * r23368 /trunk/package/security/xyssl/xyssl.desc: * updated xyssl (0.5 -> 0.6) 12:30 < CIA-18> rene * r23369 /trunk/package/develop/re2c/re2c.desc: * updated re2c (0.11.2 -> 0.11.3) 12:34 < CIA-18> rene * r23370 /trunk/package/security/axtls/axtls.desc: * updated axtls (1.1.0 -> 1.1.2) 12:39 < CIA-18> rene * r23371 /trunk/package/graphic/argyllcms/ (. argyllcms.cache argyllcms.desc): * added argyllcms (0.60) - An open source, ICC compatible color management system 14:00 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.176.151.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 14:01 -!- idealm [n=ideal@c58-107-18-60.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:08 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.176.151.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 14:20 -!- mqueiros [n=mqueiros@c-217-70-66-31.bragatel.pt] has joined #t2 14:31 -!- Capey [n=admin@a88-113-88-129.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #t2 14:34 < mtr> rxr: the strace avr32 patch clashes with the .mips patch :( 14:37 < mtr> rxr: could we add the avr32 patches conditional based on $arc ? 14:37 < mtr> *$arch 14:42 -!- mqueiros [n=mqueiros@c-217-70-66-31.bragatel.pt] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 14:51 < rxr> mtr: yes, sure we could, or merge them :-) 14:51 < rxr> either solution is fine with me 15:38 -!- Kleper [n=Kleper@190.24.32.185] has joined #t2 15:38 [Users #t2] 15:38 [@ChanServ ] [ Capey ] [ Kleper] [ rxr ] [ Stelz] [ valentin] 15:38 [ _Ragnar__] [ CIA-18 ] [ LMJ ] [ sepp ] [ th ] 15:38 [ AStorm ] [ dragon_cz] [ mtr ] [ sparc-kly] [ TobiX] 15:38 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal] 15:39 < rxr> moin Kleper 15:39 < Kleper> hi rxr 15:39 < Kleper> any one speak spanish? 15:40 < Kleper> i so bad for write english.. 15:40 < Kleper> and i like ask something about t2 :) 15:40 < Kleper> yesterday i finish to compile the trunk 15:40 < Kleper> and make the iso, this is of 450mb is ok? 15:41 < Kleper> i compile a basic packages whit X 15:41 < Capey> sounds about right 15:41 < rxr> it contains all development headers and such 15:42 < rxr> if you want it smaller you can remove developmet stuff ... 15:42 < Kleper> no i dont need it smaller, i was thinking that are more bigger 15:43 < Kleper> i cant understand the method before installing packages 15:43 < Capey> if i recall right ExactDesktop takes 2 cds, but your 450mb sounds about right when configured with minimal+xorg 15:44 < Capey> damm, hopefully i get first test of wrt2 before next weekend, will be off for few days while visiting parents 15:45 < Capey> for some reason, the final .config of kernel isnt correct and kernel fails 15:45 < Capey> build fails that is 15:45 < Kleper> where i can download targets? 15:46 < Kleper> i remember on the t2-2.2 this have more targets... 15:48 -!- mqueiros [n=mqueiros@c-217-70-66-31.bragatel.pt] has joined #t2 15:50 < Capey> Kleper: very target should be present or maybe even more on trunk. someof might got a new name tho 15:50 < Capey> very=every 15:51 < Capey> what target are you looking for? 15:51 < Kleper> a target tha make a desktop t2 15:51 < Kleper> i remember that compile 2 cds 15:52 < Capey> that target is now named ExactDesktop 15:52 < Capey> but i'm afraid there isnt downloadable ExactDesktop target from trunk atm 15:53 < Capey> and so it needs to be build from source 15:53 < Capey> downloadable iso that is 15:54 < Capey> target define itself is on trunk source 15:56 < Kleper> ok thanks 16:22 < mtr> rxr: i do not understand r22860, and it breaks my cross build, as the .conf comment says: "runk source 16:22 < mtr> "the included libtool is too broken for cross builds" ... 16:22 < rxr> this is libjpeg ? 16:26 < mtr> yes 16:26 < mtr> error messages is: make: ./libtool: Command not found 16:26 < rxr> hm - it was created on my build 16:26 < rxr> it was to use the included libtool and not a system one 16:27 < rxr> that worked very well for my AVR32 build where it failed otherwise 16:27 < rxr> strange 16:27 < rxr> maybe revert it locally 16:27 < mtr> ltconfig fails: "./config.guess: line 848: ./dummy: cannot execute binary file" 16:27 < rxr> I setup a continous regression tester again so we will get some nicely plotted date when what broken and such 16:27 < rxr> including automatic testing of all the included architectures ... 16:28 < mtr> would be nice to include mips then ... ;-) 16:29 < rxr> definetly ... 16:29 < rxr> I think before the changelog we called some fresh toolchain libtool 16:29 < rxr> on my build that hat the problem to use system libraries, and thus I choose the libjpeg included one 16:30 < rxr> I'll see in a testbuild just started 16:30 < rxr> and I have reviewing libtool injecting this static /usr/lib/libstc++.so sting into the build anyway 16:30 < rxr> we workarounded that for most libdir == lib64 cases, but it bite me back on sparc64 with 32bit user-space ... 16:52 -!- Kleper [n=Kleper@190.24.32.185] has left #t2 ["Leaving"] 16:56 < CIA-18> rene * r23372 /trunk/package/base/linux24/linux24.conf: * log make call used to build the kernels 16:57 < CIA-18> rene * r23373 /trunk/architecture/powerpc64/ (kernel.conf.m4 kernel26-disable.lst): 16:57 < CIA-18> * updated powerpc64 kernel config for defconf-less builds and 16:57 < CIA-18> updated the latest list of modules that fail to build on 16:57 < CIA-18> powerpc64 17:41 < rxr> re 17:41 < rxr> mtr: what do you think about renaming the config option 17:41 < rxr> - [ $stagelevel -le "$SDECFG_ABORT_ON_ERROR_AFTER" ] ; then 17:41 < rxr> + [ $stagelevel -le "$SDECFG_CONTINUE_ON_ERROR_AFTER" ]; then 17:41 < rxr> the option is named inverse to it's meaning right now ... 17:46 < rxr> of course -/+ some more renames, the above is just the example 18:05 < mtr> the hlp text is correct, just the option name is misleading 18:05 < rxr> yep 18:05 < mtr> so, don't know, i get used the old inverse name ;) 18:06 < rxr> I shiffer every time it scrolls by ... 18:14 < LMJ> moin moin 18:16 < CIA-18> rene * r23374 /trunk/package/mail/postfix/postfix.desc: * updated postfix (2.3.8 -> 2.4.0) 18:46 < CIA-18> rene * r23375 /trunk/package/lua/lua/lua.desc: * updated lua (5.1.1 -> 5.1.2) 19:01 < CIA-18> rene * r23376 /trunk/misc/luabash/lua/ (13 files): * imported lua (5.1.2) for our luabash 19:25 -!- shevy [n=shevy@chello080108103172.36.11.univie.teleweb.at] has joined #t2 19:31 < rxr> moin shevy 19:32 < shevy> yos 19:34 [Users #t2] 19:34 [@ChanServ ] [ Capey ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly] [ TobiX ] 19:34 [ _Ragnar__] [ CIA-18 ] [ mqueiros] [ sepp ] [ Stelz ] [ valentin] 19:34 [ AStorm ] [ dragon_cz] [ mtr ] [ shevy] [ th ] 19:34 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal] 19:34 < rxr> so - /me out of office in a second ... cu then 20:28 -!- Capey [n=admin@a88-113-88-129.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:03 -!- d-marc [n=d-marc@HSI-KBW-085-216-123-106.hsi.kabelbw.de] has joined #t2 21:03 < d-marc> hi 21:09 -!- d-marc [n=d-marc@HSI-KBW-085-216-123-106.hsi.kabelbw.de] has left #t2 ["Time makes no sense"] 21:16 -!- shevy [n=shevy@chello080108103172.36.11.univie.teleweb.at] has quit [Remote closed the connection] --- Log closed Tue Apr 03 00:00:02 2007