--- Log opened Sat Mar 31 00:00:00 2007 00:14 -!- Stelz [i=stelz@unaffiliated/stelz] has quit ["I wanna live my life like thunder!"] 00:16 -!- Stelz [i=stelz@unaffiliated/stelz] has joined #t2 00:30 -!- idealm [n=ideal@c58-107-18-60.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #t2 00:50 -!- Stelz [i=stelz@unaffiliated/stelz] has quit ["I wanna live my life like thunder!"] 01:05 -!- Stelz [i=stelz@unaffiliated/stelz] has joined #t2 01:17 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@kobz-590ca03d.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #t2 01:35 -!- mtr [n=Michael@kobz-590ca3e5.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:35 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr 01:44 -!- idealm [n=ideal@c58-107-18-60.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:40 -!- idealm [n=ideal@c58-107-18-60.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #t2 03:47 -!- mqueiros [n=mqueiros@c-217-70-66-31.bragatel.pt] has joined #t2 04:08 -!- mqueiros [n=mqueiros@c-217-70-66-31.bragatel.pt] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 04:25 -!- idealm [n=ideal@c58-107-18-60.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:35 -!- mqueiros [n=mqueiros@c-217-70-66-31.bragatel.pt] has joined #t2 05:29 -!- mqueiros [n=mqueiros@c-217-70-66-31.bragatel.pt] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 08:02 -!- idealm [n=ideal@c58-107-18-60.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #t2 08:08 -!- Capey [n=admin@a83-245-247-142.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #t2 08:08 -!- Shingoshi [n=root@c-24-21-4-193.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #t2 08:10 -!- Shingoshi [n=root@c-24-21-4-193.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 08:27 < Capey> hmm, how do i overwrite used package version in target dir? 08:28 < Capey> oh got that 08:31 < sepp> moin :) 09:38 < Capey> uhm, minit and busybox init file collide 09:59 < rxr> re 10:03 < Capey> hmm, linux-header doesnt save linux/config.h 10:03 < Capey> on my box its there but on wrt2 build its removed 10:03 < rxr> IIRC config.h is from old kernels, since .19 or so the file does not exist 10:04 < rxr> where do you miss that? 10:04 < Capey> arptables 10:05 < rxr> likely buggy code in arptables 10:05 < rxr> I power up the reference building athlon 10:05 < rxr> (used it to debug USB-Zip boot fluff yesterday) 10:05 < rxr> can tell you in a second if it failed on the last reference build 10:05 < Capey> ok, thanks 10:06 < Capey> i overwrote binutils version for wrt2 since i cant find why .14 fails on it but .12 works 10:08 < rxr> ok 10:09 < rxr> include/linux/netfilter_arp.h:10:26: error: linux/config.h: No such file or directory 10:09 < rxr> ^- arptables, confirmed 10:09 < rxr> I can hunt this if you like 10:10 < rxr> just removing the config.h inclusion might be enough, /me testing 10:10 < Capey> ok, 10:11 < Capey> its the same with ebtables 10:14 < CIA-18> rene * r23321 /trunk/package/security/arptables/2.6.20.patch: * fixed arptables for latest linux-kernel headers 10:17 < rxr> anything else ? 10:17 < CIA-18> rene * r23322 /trunk/package/security/ebtables/2.6.20.patch: * fixed ebtables for latest linux-kernel headers, likewise 10:19 < Capey> not at the moment 10:19 < Capey> bcron fails, but thats because it cant find bglibs header files 10:24 < Capey> hmm.. 10:25 < Capey> at stage 1, should build include dirs be prefixed with $root? 10:26 < rxr> the cross compiler adds the system-root prefit itself 10:26 < rxr> in the programs it jsut remains or 10:26 < rxr> however I thinkthe bcron package is one of the ones using an ugly ./compile.sh and ./link.sh build fluff that is not really cross aware 10:27 < Capey> yeah, it uses that 10:27 < rxr> yeah - you have to beat it a bit in order to properly cross compile ... 10:27 < Capey> for bcron we give include/lib dirs to conf-bglibc and conf-bgincs files 10:27 < rxr> that is refill the compile and link scripts with cross compiler invocations 10:32 < rxr> http://digg.com/linux_unix/T2_SDE_6_0_3_Spring_Feve_has_been_released 10:33 < rxr> ^- digg it anyone ? 10:33 < AStorm> Well, I digg the trunk :P 10:42 < CIA-18> susan * r23323 /trunk/package/gnome2/gdl/gdl.desc: * updated gdl (0.7.2 -> 0.7.3) 10:42 < CIA-18> susan * r23324 /trunk/package/gnome2/gthumb/gthumb.desc: * updated gthumb (2.10.0 -> 2.10.1) 10:42 < CIA-18> susan * r23325 /trunk/package/network/nagios-plugins/nagios-plugins.desc: * updated nagios-plugins (1.4.5 -> 1.4.7) 10:43 < CIA-18> susan * r23326 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-power-manager/gnome-power-manager.desc: * updated gnome-power-manager (2.18.0 -> 2.18.1) 10:44 < CIA-18> susan * r23327 /trunk/package/develop/git/git.desc: * updated git (1.5.0.5 -> 1.5.0.6) 10:44 < CIA-18> susan * r23328 /trunk/package/network/nginx/nginx.desc: * updated nginx (0.5.15 -> 0.5.16) 10:45 < CIA-18> susan * r23329 /trunk/package/network/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.desc: * updated ndiswrapper (1.39 -> 1.40) 10:45 < AStorm> Do you have some script to do your version bumping? 10:45 < rxr> yeah ./scripts/Update-Pkg 10:45 < AStorm> :) 10:45 < rxr> and an nightly checker which every day checks 1/7 of the packages so it checked all of the packages once a week ... 10:46 < rxr> the output of that is on the t2-update mailing list 10:46 < rxr> anyone can review and cut'n paste it into Update-Pkg, review that it is good and commit 10:46 < rxr> there also is a scripts/Commit that parses the svn diff and generate the added and updated svn log messages mostly automatically ... 10:50 < AStorm> Nice and automated. Unlike Gentoo :> 10:51 < AStorm> Where to get a version bump, you have to hammer the bugzilla until some nice dev stumbles upon it. 10:52 < Capey> hmm, so how do i make bcron cross aware? where do i get the should be used cc,ld? 10:53 < rxr> from the $CC and $LD variables 10:53 < rxr> echo them into the files in some premake hook or so ... 10:54 < CIA-18> susan * r23330 /trunk/package/security/gnupg2/gnupg2.desc: * updated gnupg2 (2.0.2 -> 2.0.3) 10:57 < CIA-18> rene * r23331 /trunk/package/filesystem/udev/udev.desc: * updated udev (107 -> 108) 10:58 -!- misl [n=chatzill@84-104-172-187.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 10:58 < misl> hi folks 10:59 < rxr> moin misl 10:59 [Users #t2] 10:59 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-18] [ misl ] [ rxr ] [ Stelz] [ valentin] 10:59 [ AStorm ] [ idealm] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ th ] 10:59 [ Capey ] [ LMJ ] [ R4gnar0k] [ sparc-kly] [ TobiX] 10:59 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal] 10:59 < misl> hi rxr 11:02 < Capey> oh, not good. bglibs is not build correctly... 64bit x86-64 11:04 < Capey> damm. same thing as bcron... using host stuff 11:04 < rxr> I patches some of the packages in the past already 11:05 < rxr> it's time to define a common function to do the compile.sh / link.sh modifications and reuse it from all the "crappy" packages ... 11:09 < rxr> http://digg.com/gadgets/T2_Linux_plays_video_on_AVR32_with_140MHz_8MB_RAM 11:09 < AStorm> rxr: sed? :D 11:10 < AStorm> sed -i 's/gcc/$CC/' 11:10 < AStorm> sed -i 's/g++/$CXX/' 11:10 < AStorm> :> 11:10 < AStorm> etc 11:11 < AStorm> hm, change that to be {,g}cc 11:11 < AStorm> and {c,g}++ 11:12 < AStorm> run against non-autoconf makefiles and compile.sh scripts 11:13 < AStorm> non-{autoconf,CMake,imake} 11:47 < CIA-18> susan * r23332 /trunk/package/perl/perl-text-iconv/ (. perl-text-iconv.cache perl-text-iconv.desc): * added perl-text-iconv (1.4) - Perl interface to iconv() codeset conversion function 11:57 < CIA-18> susan * r23333 /trunk/package/perl/perl-yaml/ (. perl-yaml.cache perl-yaml.desc): * added perl-yaml (0.62) - Is a generic data serialization language 11:58 < CIA-18> rene * r23334 /trunk/ (78 files in 78 dirs): * mass correct 78 perl packages to not just list "OpenSource" as License, but "Artistic GPL" 12:15 -!- misl [n=chatzill@84-104-172-187.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:17 -!- misl [n=chatzill@84-104-172-187.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 12:20 < CIA-18> rene * r23335 /trunk/package/audio/umix/umix.desc: * added Url tag to the umix package 12:21 < CIA-18> mika * r23336 /trunk/target/wrt2/ (4 files in 3 dirs): * overwrote binutils version for wrt2 target 12:24 < CIA-18> mika * r23337 /trunk/package/base/busybox/busybox.conf: 12:24 < CIA-18> * do not build taskset or ether-wake support 12:24 < CIA-18> in busybox for mips-uclibc 12:25 < Capey> rxr: could you do another ref build on wrt2 target(mips,uclibc)? 12:25 < Capey> bglibs is failing badly 12:27 < Capey> rxr:i have local diff of bglibs, diff: 12:27 < Capey> bglibs_conf() { 12:27 < Capey> @@ -24,6 +24,11 @@ 12:27 < Capey> echo "$root$includedir" > conf-include 12:27 < Capey> echo "$root$libdir" > conf-lib 12:27 < Capey> echo "$root$mandir" > conf-man 12:27 < Capey> + if atstage cross; then 12:27 < Capey> + sed -i.orig s/gcc/$CC/ conf-cc 12:27 < Capey> + sed -i.orig s/gcc/$LD/ conf-ld 12:27 < Capey> + fi 12:27 < Capey> + 12:27 < rxr> using trunk ,right? 12:27 < Capey> yep 12:28 < Capey> without the diff above, it builds system with host compiler 12:28 < rxr> will review binutils along the lines then 12:37 < rxr> Capey: did you notice the new busybox relase 12:37 < rxr> release 12:37 < rxr> I wonder if it is worth testing it ... 12:46 < Capey> rxr: nope, did not noticed it. but those disabled are because of uclibc does not provide those features 12:47 -!- Stelz [i=stelz@unaffiliated/stelz] has quit ["I wanna live my life like thunder!"] 12:48 -!- Stelz [i=stelz@unaffiliated/stelz] has joined #t2 12:57 < CIA-18> rene * r23338 /trunk/package/textproc/xmlsec/ (. xmlsec.cache xmlsec.desc): * added xmlsec (1.2.10) - Implementation of XML Signature and XML Encryption standards 13:20 < rxr> Capey: wrt2 building, downdated binutils for thest test temporaryly as well 13:20 < rxr> but udpated busybox for a quick test 13:57 -!- misl [n=chatzill@84-104-172-187.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:01 -!- misl [n=chatzill@84-104-172-187.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 14:09 -!- d-marc [n=d-marc@HSI-KBW-085-216-122-146.hsi.kabelbw.de] has joined #t2 14:12 < d-marc> hello 14:16 < rxr> hi d-marc 14:35 < CIA-18> rene * r23339 /trunk/package/base/busybox/ (emergency.config static.config): * removed unused, lingering static uclibc configuration files 14:41 < rxr> Capey: btw. the above sed is save not only for cross builds, as the user might have selected icc or llvm, ... 14:41 < rxr> debug-bglibs:[bglibs-1.102]# eval $MAKE $makeopt 14:41 < rxr> ./libcompile adt/adt_sp.c 14:41 < rxr> libtool: compile: unable to infer tagged configuration 14:41 < rxr> do you mean this ? 14:42 < Capey> yep 14:46 < rxr> well - --tag CC 14:46 < rxr> but other issues pop up after that 14:46 < rxr> why did we wanted to use libbg on the wrt2 ? 14:49 < rxr> well - I remeber why I never commited the compile patch I once hacked up 14:49 < rxr> the whole sysdep creation is pure, 100% crap ... 14:51 < rxr> I guess only for bgcron 14:51 < rxr> I think we remove them for now 14:52 < rxr> focus on getting T2 on the Linksys and if we ever need a tiny cron on the box we choose something sane 14:53 < CIA-18> rene * r23340 /trunk/target/wrt2/config.in: 14:53 < CIA-18> * force minit as wrt2 init so the default sysvinit is not selected 14:53 < CIA-18> and produces shared files 14:53 < rxr> Capey: did you do something with quagga to get it built ? 14:58 < CIA-18> susan * r23341 /trunk/package/network/hostap-utils/ (hostap-utils.cache install.patch): * added hostap-utils install.patch and .cache 14:59 < CIA-18> susan * r23342 /trunk/package/network/ (hostap-driver/hostap-driver.cache hostapd/hostapd.cache): * added hostapd and hostap-driver .cache files 14:59 < Capey> rxr:nope, i disabled it for now, until i figure out whats wrong with it 15:01 < rxr> ok - I commit some more added packages, and the bg removals 15:01 < rxr> and then you can have fun getting the image running on the box :-))) 15:01 < Capey> rxr: so we can safely remove bcron and bglibs from wrt2? 15:02 < Capey> yep :), will do fresh build later today and test it on some emu and transfer it to router if everything goes well 15:03 < Capey> bcron was the last stop i think... did not notice any other breaks on target 15:03 < rxr> ack 15:03 < rxr> well - bcron is just a cron 15:04 < rxr> we definetly do not need it in the beginning, if at all 15:05 < CIA-18> rene * r23343 /trunk/target/wrt2/pkgsel: 15:05 < CIA-18> * further removed madwifi and bglibs as well as bcron from the wrt2 target 15:05 < CIA-18> * fixed the hostap selection to single select hostapd, hostap-utils and 15:05 < CIA-18> wpa_supplicant now that the former hostap package was split up 15:05 < Capey> rxr: I looked up on FreeWRT, they have one auto image generation on they website. 15:05 < Capey> they allow user to select packages they need on build and create ready made image on that 15:05 < Capey> cool idea but dont know if its usable 15:06 < rxr> we could do this as well 15:06 < rxr> for well defined target 15:06 < rxr> where precompiled binary modules get then copied together 15:06 < Capey> yeah, we only need to run the image build stage 15:06 < rxr> (building on the web really takes too long) 15:06 < rxr> yep 15:27 -!- misl [n=chatzill@84-104-172-187.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:34 < rxr> Capey: just fund a nice new Linksys I might buy 15:35 < rxr> WRT54G3G 15:35 < rxr> though I do not need it urgently, mostly haning in the office anyway - so we do not need a router at home, now that you have our Linksys :-)) 15:37 < Capey> ;) 15:38 < Capey> that new one has umts support 15:42 < LMJ> moin moin 15:46 < rxr> Capey: well - just an option, it has a PCMCIA slot where you apparently have to insert "some" thirdd party UMTS card into it ... 15:46 < rxr> moin moin LMJ 15:46 < rxr> Capey: I fixed quagga, now 15:46 < rxr> was just failing due -std=c99 or so 15:46 < rxr> as linux/types.h only defines some 64bit types including in #indef __ANSI__ or so ... 15:46 < rxr> test running commit in a second 15:47 -!- idealm [n=ideal@c58-107-18-60.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:47 < Capey> oh thanks 15:47 < rxr> though I'm not sure if we want quagga or zebra in a minimal router, 15:47 < rxr> do we? 15:47 < Capey> well maybe not in minimal, but its good to know that is builds 15:47 < rxr> yep 15:47 < rxr> though I wonder why normal bulids succeed .. 15:48 < rxr> maybe due arch=x86 or so ... 15:49 < rxr> if someone would move around 400 people onto http://www.t2-project.org/ we would have the most montly unique visitors ever ... :-) 15:49 < rxr> so far "Aug 2006" still holds most vistiros / month #1 15:50 < Capey> hmm, release day? 15:50 < Capey> that Aug 2006? 15:51 < CIA-18> rene * r23344 /trunk/package/network/quagga/quagga.conf: 15:51 < CIA-18> * fixed quagga compilation for mips by explicitly removing '-std=c99' 15:51 < CIA-18> from the GCC commandline as otherwise some linux/types.h defines 15:51 < CIA-18> are not exposed 15:51 < Capey> oh that was big month 15:51 < Capey> release,expo, X11 cross compile news 15:52 < rxr> yep 15:53 < rxr> ok - so - I'm for lunch in a second 15:53 < rxr> much luck with your MIPS binaries, /me pressing thumbs ... 15:59 < CIA-18> rene * r23345 /trunk/package/base/busybox/busybox.conf: 15:59 < CIA-18> * reworked the recently added buybox conditionals for TASKSET and 15:59 < CIA-18> ETHERWAKE and enabled them for all non x86* as I know it failed 15:59 < CIA-18> for at least AVR32, likewise 15:59 < CIA-18> rene * r23346 /trunk/package/base/busybox/busybox.desc: * updated busybox (1.4.2 -> 1.5.0), added Url tag 16:16 < CIA-18> rene * r23347 /trunk/architecture/powerpc/boot/boot.in: 16:16 < CIA-18> * further streamlinked PPC iso creation by not copying the mapping 16:16 < CIA-18> file around, but just use it directly :-) 16:18 < rxr> streamlined 16:18 < rxr> damn 16:18 < rxr> streamlinked, tss ts 16:18 * rxr should better review the screen ... 16:24 < CIA-18> rene * r23348 /trunk/package/fonts/terminus-font/terminus-font.desc: * updated terminus-font (4.16 -> 4.20) 17:04 -!- mqueiros [n=mqueiros@c-217-70-66-31.bragatel.pt] has joined #t2 17:21 < Capey> damm 17:21 < Capey> qemu says builded image is unbootable... 17:22 < Capey> i doubt its true, must be some qemu flag i'm missing 17:33 -!- misl [n=chatzill@84-104-172-187.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 17:49 -!- mqueiros [n=mqueiros@c-217-70-66-31.bragatel.pt] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 17:55 -!- d-marc [n=d-marc@HSI-KBW-085-216-122-146.hsi.kabelbw.de] has left #t2 ["Time makes no sense"] 18:15 -!- Stelz [i=stelz@unaffiliated/stelz] has quit ["I wanna live my life like thunder!"] 18:16 -!- Stelz [i=stelz@unaffiliated/stelz] has joined #t2 18:33 < rxr> re 18:33 < rxr> Capey: does qemu run the FreeWRT binaries? 18:33 < CIA-18> rene * r23349 /trunk/package/fonts/fontforge/fontforge.desc: * updated fontforge (20061014 -> 20070312) 18:36 < Capey> rxr:hmm, havent tryed, will try 18:37 < rxr> Capey: did you import special kernel patches already? 18:37 < rxr> I doubt a vanilla kernel will boot on tha tboards ... 18:39 -!- misl is now known as misl_all_alone_o 18:39 -!- misl_all_alone_o is now known as alone_on_island 18:40 < rxr> alone_on_island: ? 18:43 < alone_on_island> rxr: me (misl) just joking on another channel 18:44 -!- alone_on_island is now known as misl 18:44 -!- mqueiros [n=mqueiros@c-217-70-66-31.bragatel.pt] has joined #t2 18:45 < Capey> rxr:hmm, good point, havent imported any kernel patches 18:45 < Capey> but then again, freewrt binaries doesnt boot up 18:46 < Capey> i think i call qemu with wrong parameters 18:49 < rxr> Capey: qemu likely does not emulate exactly the Linksys broadcom anyway 18:49 < Capey> rxr: can you give me an example for qemu parameters. its so long ago when i have generally booted up qemu and longer when i used it to emulate other arch 18:49 < Capey> ah yep 18:53 < rxr> qemu-system-mipsel -kernel ... -initrd ... 18:54 < rxr> it was mipsel was it? 18:54 < rxr> but the that is just one system beeing emulated 18:54 < rxr> not exactly what's in the linksys 18:54 < rxr> and this embedded boards usually need an exactly matching kernel as they have no Plug'n Play disconvery and need hardcoded hardware maps 19:05 < CIA-18> rene * r23350 /trunk/package/security/pamtester/ (pamtester.conf pamtester.desc): * updated pamtester (0.10 -> 0.1.2) 19:31 < mqueiros> Hello! There is a small error in one link of the download page... it should be: http://nexus.tfh-berlin.de/t2/binary/ and not http://nexus.tfh-berlin.de/~t2/binary (Notice the ~) 19:40 < rxr> .oO 19:41 < rxr> thanks - fixed 19:45 < mqueiros> I've already started using T2. Grabed http://dl.exactcode.de/t2/t2-6.0.3.tar.bz2 and started the build process. The first problem I had was that my Centos 4.4 or my Ubuntu didn't had the devel lib of ncurses. 19:45 < mqueiros> shouldn't that be on the http://www.t2-project.org/documentation/buildintro.html webpage ? 19:45 < mqueiros> I mean... the nead for ncurses-devel... 19:45 < rxr> yes, and t2 better checking for it 19:46 < rxr> I guess you mean already for ./scripts/Config, right? 19:46 < mqueiros> yes... 19:46 < rxr> I wonder if it is worth running scripts/Check-System in the beginning of scripts/Config 19:46 < rxr> (right now we only do Check-System in Build-Target) 19:46 < mqueiros> when I used ./scripts/Config I got a lot of errors because I didn't had ncurses-devel installed. 19:46 < rxr> and among the other things, check for ncurses to warn out nicely ... 19:47 < mqueiros> rxr: Yes... I think that will be good. 19:50 < rxr> (Config already is slow anyway and adding more verbose checking is definetly worth it - Config is not that often run anyway ... 19:51 < rxr> ) 20:18 < rxr> ok - moging the System check there is not that handy right now 20:18 < rxr> I'll add a better diagnostic in the case the gcc invocation fails, refereing to ncurses-devel 20:18 < rxr> do you think that would be ok for now ? 20:19 < rxr> Creating confdialog tool. 20:19 < rxr> gcc misc/confdialog/*.c -Imisc/confdialog -lnccurses -o src/confdialog.bin 20:19 < rxr> /usr/lib/gcc/i686-t2-linux-gnu/4.1.1/../../../../i686-t2-linux-gnu/bin/ld: cannot find -lnccurses 20:19 < rxr> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 20:19 < rxr> Compilation of the dialog tool failed, ncurses-devel missing? 20:23 < mqueiros> rxr: Shure... I just told that thinking that the error I got could make someone stay away from T2... Anyone with some experience would notice what the problem might be. 20:23 < rxr> yes sure, but when someone mention it here in IRC, there are probably 10-20 people that already run away screaming ... .-) 20:24 < rxr> the historically grown T2 sources will be streamlined over the time anyway, thus scaling back in terms of complexity 20:24 < mqueiros> rxr: anyway... Some information about the need to have ncurses-devel should be in http://www.t2-project.org/documentation/buildintro.html 20:24 < rxr> ok - will add it 20:26 < CIA-18> rene * r23351 /trunk/scripts/Config: * added explicit diagnostic, including reference to ncurses-devel if compilation of the dialog tool fails 20:32 < rxr> note added to: http://www.t2-project.org/documentation/buildintro.html 20:32 < rxr> hope all love it 21:08 < AStorm> rxr: -lnccurses? WTF? 21:08 < AStorm> -lcurses you certainly meant, yes? 21:09 < rxr> that was for testing :-) 21:09 < AStorm> or maybe -lncurses :> 21:09 < rxr> testing if the diagnostic works - of course I did not wanted to delete my system headers or libraries for that ... 21:15 < AStorm> rxr: does the concept of system and version (slot) tags appeal to you? 21:15 < AStorm> E.g. ncurses 7.x with libversion 6.1.2 gets the version tag 6.0 if it's compatible with 6.0 API 21:16 < AStorm> Then, extend the dependency syntax to support those slots 21:18 < AStorm> Hmm, I don't know how to support normal comparison (>, <, =, combination) with shell :> 21:18 < rxr> we expand to lua anyway 21:18 -!- Capey [n=admin@a83-245-247-142.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:18 < rxr> but most versions are not easily comparable because everyone creates his own mess 21:18 < rxr> so - /me heading home 21:18 < rxr> feel free to continue brainstorming, best would be as always on the list as well for asynchron accumulation 21:21 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.23.22.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 21:37 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.34.224.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:38 -!- sepp_ is now known as sepp 23:33 -!- misl [n=chatzill@84-104-172-187.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:35 -!- CIA-25 [n=CIA@cia.navi.cx] has quit [Excess Flood] 23:35 -!- CIA-12 [n=CIA@cia.vc] has joined #gsmp 23:39 -!- misl [n=chatzill@84-104-172-187.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 --- Log closed Sun Apr 01 00:00:00 2007