T2 IRC Log: 2007-03-29
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--- Log opened Thu Mar 29 00:00:58 2007
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03:21 < mqueiros> hello! Can anyone tell me if T2 works like LinuxFromScratch ?
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06:04 < AStorm> Hullo :>
06:04 < AStorm> Kernel build failed...
06:04 < AStorm> make[3]: *** [/data/t2-trunk/src.linux26.default.20070329.012312.23632.Vishnu/lirc-0.8.1/drivers/lirc_atiusb/lirc_atiusb.o] Error 1
06:04 < AStorm> x86_64, your default config
06:05 < AStorm> also:
06:05 < AStorm> make[1]: *** [/data/t2-trunk/src.linux26.default.20070329.012312.23632.Vishnu/acx100/common.o] Error 1
06:05 < AStorm> also:
06:05 < AStorm> make[2]: *** [/data/t2-trunk/src.linux26.default.20070329.012312.23632.Vishnu/adm8211/wep.o] Error 1
06:05 < AStorm> and
06:05 < AStorm> make[2]: *** [/data/t2-trunk/src.linux26.default.20070329.012312.23632.Vishnu/at76c503a/at76c503.o] Error 1
06:06 < AStorm> That's all.
06:06 < AStorm> If you want a full log, I have that available.
06:07 < AStorm> The errors are about undefined things mostly
06:07 < AStorm> for lirc it's SLAB_ATOMIC
06:08 < AStorm> for acx it's INIT_WORK macro having changed it's parameters
06:08 < AStorm> for adm8211 it's "invalid use of struct page" and some others, looks like a missing #include
06:09 < AStorm> for at76c503a it's INIT_WORK macro too
06:09 < AStorm> :>
06:09 < AStorm> BTW, please don't use the old alsa drivers from the kernel :>
06:12 < AStorm> Use the separate package instead.
06:13 < AStorm> I recall Gentoo having fixed the acx100 problem... or just update to a newer version :>
06:18 < AStorm> BTW, I'm seeing some weirdness with kernel build and split debug
06:18 < AStorm> Like some .debug files being created before the main flist being parsed
06:19 < AStorm> Had to add some grep -v, or else it enters a nasty loop
06:20 < AStorm> The culprits are r1000 driver
06:22 < AStorm> and sn9c102
06:23 < AStorm> Aha, it's strip failing on them for some reason :P
06:25 < AStorm> No, it's not failing, as it seems.
06:26 < AStorm> Oh yes, it is.
06:27 < AStorm> It's forgetting to strip the debugging info
06:27 < AStorm> I'll use objcopy instead of strip, maybe
06:30 < AStorm> Weirdness!
06:30 < AStorm> My gentoo strip and objcopy can "fix" the files.
06:34 < AStorm> Ahha!
06:34 < AStorm> These drivers are made... twice
06:42 < AStorm> then I get the .debug files in the flist :>
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08:48 < rxr> re
09:01 < rxr> heh: http://www.tecchannel.de/blog/posts/190
09:07 < CIA-18> rene * r23283 /trunk/package/base/lm_sensors/lm_sensors.desc: * updated lm_sensors (2.10.2 -> 2.10.3)
09:12 < CIA-18> rene * r23284 /trunk/package/graphic/dcraw/dcraw.desc: * updated dcraw (8.68 -> 8.69)
09:19 < CIA-18> rene * r23285 /trunk/package/network/madwifi/ (macbook.patch madwifi.desc no-find-previous.patch):
09:19 < CIA-18> * updated madwifi (0.9.3 -> 0.9.30.10-r2230-20070328), the Atheros 0024 in MacBook and
09:19 < CIA-18> MacBook Pro rev2 starts to become functional, ...
09:26 < CIA-18> rene * r23286 /trunk/package/gnome2/gmime/gmime.desc: * updated gmime (2.2.4 -> 2.2.6)
09:30 < CIA-18> rene * r23287 /trunk/package/network/liferea/liferea.desc: * updated liferea (1.2.7 -> 1.2.10)
09:40 < CIA-18> rene * r23288 /trunk/package/network/libidn/libidn.conf: * fixed libidn compilation
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10:08 < Stelz> so - rehi
10:16 < CIA-18> rene * r23289 /trunk/package/archiver/zziplib/zziplib.desc: * updated zziplib (0.13.47 -> 0.13.49)
10:16 < CIA-18> rene * r23290 /trunk/package/archiver/zziplib/install.patch: * added matching zziplib install hotfix patch
10:16 < rxr> hi Stelz
10:17 < Stelz> hi rxr
10:18 < CIA-18> rene * r23291 /trunk/package/gnome2/libxklavier/libxklavier.desc: * updated libxklavier (3.1 -> 3.2)
11:49 < CIA-18> rene * r23292 /trunk/package/office/pdfedit/ (. no-doc.patch pdfedit.cache pdfedit.conf pdfedit.desc): * added pdfedit (0.2.5) - A editor for manipulating PDF documents
12:40 < CIA-18> rene * r23293 /trunk/package/security/axtls/ (. axtls.cache axtls.conf axtls.desc): * added axtls (1.1.0) - A TLSv1 SSL library designed specifically for embedded devices
12:51 < CIA-18> rene * r23294 /trunk/package/security/matrixssl/ (. matrixssl.cache matrixssl.conf matrixssl.desc): * added matrixssl (1.8.3) - An embedded SSL implementation for small footprint devices
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14:36 < rxr> re
14:40 < Stelz> rehi rxr
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14:57 [Users #t2]
14:57 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-18] [ R4gnar0k] [ sparc-kly] [ TobiX ]
14:57 [ AStorm ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ Stelz ] [ valentin]
14:57 [ Capey ] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ th ]
14:57 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal]
16:12 < Capey> damm, this auto* stuff is killing me
16:51 < rxr> yeah
16:51 < rxr> what are you on right now ?=
16:58 < AStorm> rxr: have you read about my kernel build failures?
17:00 < rxr> AStorm: yes
17:00 < rxr> where there with your debug stuff enabled or plain T2 ?
17:00 < rxr> http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS2837651365.html
17:01 < AStorm> rxr: both
17:01 < AStorm> The failure is not related to debugging (tried with split debug disabled, still happened)
17:02 < AStorm> Want a log?
17:04 < rxr> yeah log is good
17:05 < rxr> I know some third party modules fail in trunk as they are not updated for 2.6.20 yet
17:05 < AStorm> Yes, these aren't
17:05 < AStorm> acx100 at least has a patch
17:05 < AStorm> r1000 doesn't need an external module anymore AFAICT (it's in the kernel too)
17:06 < AStorm> (that's why I'm seeing it double)
17:06 < AStorm> same with sn9csomething :P
17:06 < rxr> ah ok
17:06 < AStorm> The only one left is the atmel chip :>
17:06 < rxr> can you drop the patches somewhere ?
17:06 < AStorm> try gentoo :>
17:07 < AStorm> Why should I drop them, when they're widely available AND the newest version from acx100.sf.net works fine with 2.6.20?
17:07 < AStorm> :-)
17:07 < AStorm> (also, there's a proper patch in -mm)
17:08 < AStorm> Right now, I'll patchbomb you finished and tested split debug support.
17:09 < rxr> ok, I review the remaining nic build failures in a sec
17:17 < AStorm> rene@exactcode.de, right?
17:17 < AStorm> CC someone?
17:21 < rxr> could also use the list if you are subscribed
17:21 < rxr> but me directly is fine as well
17:21 < AStorm> Hmm, I'm still not subscribed.
17:21 < AStorm> Guess I'll finally subscribe :>
17:21 < AStorm> It goes to you, then.
17:23 < rxr> ok
17:23 < AStorm> Sent. :-)
17:25 < AStorm> Blah, I've subscribed to t2 using that crummy gmail address :P
17:25 < AStorm> Will have to fix that.
17:27 < rxr> did you test the patch ?
17:28 < rxr> ah sorry overread a line myself ... most probably all fnie
17:29 < AStorm> Yes, I did test the patch :-)
17:30 < AStorm> Blah!
17:30 < AStorm> Again, a TPYO strikes
17:30 < AStorm> Notice line with grep
17:30 < AStorm> :>
17:30 < AStorm> And please fix.
17:30 < rxr> hehe ok
17:30 < rxr> that also the line I overread :-)
17:31 < rxr> I think I also go implement this commonly used subdir naming so people feel @home when the use T2
17:31 < AStorm> Ok.
17:32 < AStorm> It's quite easy to implement, just add an if and change dbg variable
17:33 < rxr> yep
17:40 < AStorm> I'm still having a backlog of about 3 months on gmail POP :/
17:40 < AStorm> And it doesn't send proper UIDL - says there are about 1k messages at most
17:40 < AStorm> Which is simply not true :P
17:40 < AStorm> Thus I have to run fetchmail multiple times :/
17:52 < CIA-18> rene * r23295 /trunk/architecture/share/kernel-common.conf.m4:
17:52 < CIA-18> * added CONFIG_VT to the default kernel options, needed for a
17:52 < CIA-18> defconf-less 2.4.x build
17:53 < CIA-18> rene * r23296 /trunk/package/base/linux24/disable-broken.lst:
17:53 < CIA-18> * removed DEVFS from the linux24/disable-broken list as it is quite
17:53 < CIA-18> handy if you still need a 2.4 kernel for some reason (e.g. embedded
17:53 < CIA-18> boards) and can not yet have u/dev
17:53 < CIA-18> * added CONFIG_CDU535 instead as it actually really fails to build
17:53 < CIA-18> rene * r23297 /trunk/package/base/linux24/linux24.desc: * updated linux24 (2.4.34.1 -> 2.4.34.2)
17:53 < rxr> heh - linux24 build now again on the trunk reference builder :-)
17:56 < AStorm> :-)
18:01 < rxr> -> Compiler Cache Hits while pkg build: 26.23% (452 hits, 1271 misses)
18:01 < rxr> how that reference builder ccache was untrained ...
18:13 < rxr> s/how/now/
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18:13 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-18] [ R4gnar0k] [ sparc-kly] [ TobiX ]
18:13 [ AStorm ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ Stelz ] [ valentin]
18:13 [ Capey ] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ th ]
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18:24 < CIA-18> rene * r23298 /trunk/package/develop/libuninum/libuninum.desc: * updated libuninum (2.2 -> 2.3)
18:24 < CIA-18> rene * r23299 /trunk/package/textproc/msort/msort.desc: * updated msort (8.39 -> 8.40)
18:39 < LMJ> moin moin
18:39 < rxr> moin moin LMJ
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18:56 < CIA-18> rene * r23300 /trunk/package/multimedia/sn9c102/: * removed multimedia/sn9c102, it's in the kernel, nowadays
19:06 < rxr> hi madtux and mqueiros
19:07 < madtux> G'Day rxr
19:07 < rxr> how are you miguel?
19:07 < madtux> quite good. how about u? :)
19:09 < rxr> fine thanks
19:16 < rxr> madtux: what do you do these days - still over-busy ?
19:16 < madtux> switching jobs right now..
19:16 < madtux> signed with hp.
19:16 < rxr> aha, what do you do there then ?
19:16 < madtux> got to stay at my current job for 2 more weeks
19:17 < madtux> rxr: will work on the ITO Unix Group
19:17 < madtux> meaning managing a lot of Unix/Linux servers
19:26 < mqueiros> Hello...
19:36 < mqueiros> Does T2 works like Linux From Scratch ?
19:36 < mqueiros> I would like to give it a try....
19:36 < rxr> yes, like LFS, just compeltely automated
19:37 < mqueiros> rxr: ok. thanks...
19:38 < madtux> similar concept than LFS.... but much more powerfull and advanced ;-)
19:38 < mqueiros> madtux: Yes... it seemed like that. :)
19:38 < mqueiros> I'm thinking of installing an "old" 20GB hard drive to give it a try... any problem with that ?
19:39 < rxr> nope
19:39 < rxr> only keep in mind that the just releases CDs are minimal X.org Live versions
19:39 < rxr> (without installer ...)
19:40 < mqueiros> Is there any torrent link to download from ?
19:40 < rxr> if you are an advanced user you might build directly from the source
19:40 < rxr> (the t2 source)
19:40 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/documentation/buildintro.html
19:41 < madtux> the charm of the "automated" part is that is easy to learn and get used to build ur own stuff
19:41 < mqueiros> rxr: I'v been using Linux for several years...
19:41 < madtux> if ya have experience... u can not only have fun but also perhaps help the project in several different ways
19:41 < rxr> mqueiros: I would propose then to grab the 6.0.3.tar.bz2 release tarball and build exactly what you want from the T2 sources
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19:42 < mqueiros> madtux: It would be great if I could help the project... Right now I've got a lot of work... but maybe in the future.
19:43 < mqueiros> rxr: ok, thanks... I will to that as soon as I can.
19:44 < mqueiros> any torrent link to download from ?
19:45 < rxr> nope, sorry, not that I know off
19:45 < mqueiros> rxr: ok... no problem.
19:45 < madtux> have fun mqueiros :-)
19:50 < Stelz> heya madtux
19:50 < madtux> hallo Stelz
19:55 < CIA-18> rene * r23301 /trunk/package/network/acx100/ (acx100.desc linux-2.6.18.patch postlinux.conf): * updated acx100 (20060521 -> 20070101)
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20:10 < CIA-18> rene * r23302 /trunk/package/network/at76c503a/at76c503a.desc: * updated at76c503a (2006-12-31 -> 2007-03-28)
20:11 < AStorm> Ok, now adding separate alsa-drivers :>
20:12 < rxr> we have this alsa-driver package
20:12 < rxr> we just only use it for 2.4
20:12 < rxr> usually the 2.6 included alsa stuff is pretty fine
20:12 < rxr> what do you miss specifically
20:12 < rxr> you could even condigure the kernel to not build the internal alsa drivers and use the alsa-driver package instead ...
20:12 < rxr> that's the lovely target flexibility of t2 ...
20:13 < AStorm> rxr: exactly, change the default
20:13 < AStorm> ALSA in the kernel is... old
20:13 < AStorm> 2.6.20 has some .13 version
20:13 < rxr> well - just some weeks ...
20:13 < AStorm> Currently. Will be some months before 2.6.21 comes out.
20:13 < rxr> I consider alsa-driver as a -mm a-like patch tree ..
20:14 < AStorm> Hmm, not really :>
20:14 < AStorm> It's fairly stable in my testing (like 6 soundcards, 2 ac97 chips, 1 hda, 1 ice1724, 1 emu10k1, 1 something-cheap-I-can't-recall)
20:15 < AStorm> Gentoo is recommending that anyway instead of kernel drivers
20:15 < AStorm> and there are little complaints
20:17 < AStorm> Hmm, I've some additional .desc to add: alsa-plugins
20:17 < AStorm> :-)
20:17 < AStorm> E.g. the essential libsamplerate plugin :-)
20:17 < AStorm> (for your HQ sound mixing needs)
20:18 < rxr> :-)
20:18 < rxr> alsa-bluez *something* is also on some TODO or bug tracker
20:18 < rxr> the Bluetooth pairing stuff ...
20:18 < rxr> still beta
20:18 < rxr> might care propose a patch for those ?
20:18 < AStorm> Hmm, you mean the bluetooth sound driver? Never used that yet.
20:18 < AStorm> I don't have the hardware to test (I've got bluez, but no sound device)
20:20 < rxr> too bad :-(
20:22 < AStorm> Maybe I'll buy some mic
20:22 < AStorm> (need one anyway)
20:22 < AStorm> I hope there's one in the "not too expensive" category
20:22 < rxr> usually used for headsets ...
20:23 < AStorm> Hm.
20:23 < AStorm> I've got good headphones anyway (|^_^|)
20:26 < AStorm> Now, the pendrive got backordered, but that won't stop my plan to take over the world ]:->
20:27 < CIA-18> rene * r23303 /trunk/package/network/hostap-driver/ (3 files): * fixed hostap-driver postlinux registration, unfortunatly this is not enough to make it build
20:32 < AStorm> Hmm, so I have to make my fetchmail run round'n'round
20:32 < AStorm> :-)
20:32 < AStorm> (so that I get the SVN log there :> )
20:33 < AStorm> And move some other MLs to categorise them better (e.g. everything from vger.kernel.org)
20:35 < AStorm> Hmmm, moving those 200k messages of LKML will take a while...
20:43 < AStorm> I have to hook up that last one stupid pw.edu.pl mailbox (those dummies didn't give any info on how to do it, the server addresses - at worst I'll use some shell script with ssh)
20:47 < CIA-18> rene * r23304 /trunk/package/multimedia/lirc/2.6.20.patch: * imported lirc/2.6.20.patch from Gentoo
20:47 < rxr> so, now out of all the "crappy" third party linux kernel modules we have in t2, only hostap-driver and adm8211 still fail
20:47 < rxr> all the others should be fine
20:47 < rxr> - at least they compile on x86-64 -
20:49 < rxr> maybe I have time at home to continue this puzzle
20:51 < rxr> cu
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03:21 < mqueiros> hello! Can anyone tell me if T2 works like LinuxFromScratch ?
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06:04 < AStorm> Hullo :>
06:04 < AStorm> Kernel build failed...
06:04 < AStorm> make[3]: *** [/data/t2-trunk/src.linux26.default.20070329.012312.23632.Vishnu/lirc-0.8.1/drivers/lirc_atiusb/lirc_atiusb.o] Error 1
06:04 < AStorm> x86_64, your default config
06:05 < AStorm> also:
06:05 < AStorm> make[1]: *** [/data/t2-trunk/src.linux26.default.20070329.012312.23632.Vishnu/acx100/common.o] Error 1
06:05 < AStorm> also:
06:05 < AStorm> make[2]: *** [/data/t2-trunk/src.linux26.default.20070329.012312.23632.Vishnu/adm8211/wep.o] Error 1
06:05 < AStorm> and
06:05 < AStorm> make[2]: *** [/data/t2-trunk/src.linux26.default.20070329.012312.23632.Vishnu/at76c503a/at76c503.o] Error 1
06:06 < AStorm> That's all.
06:06 < AStorm> If you want a full log, I have that available.
06:07 < AStorm> The errors are about undefined things mostly
06:07 < AStorm> for lirc it's SLAB_ATOMIC
06:08 < AStorm> for acx it's INIT_WORK macro having changed it's parameters
06:08 < AStorm> for adm8211 it's "invalid use of struct page" and some others, looks like a missing #include
06:09 < AStorm> for at76c503a it's INIT_WORK macro too
06:09 < AStorm> :>
06:09 < AStorm> BTW, please don't use the old alsa drivers from the kernel :>
06:12 < AStorm> Use the separate package instead.
06:13 < AStorm> I recall Gentoo having fixed the acx100 problem... or just update to a newer version :>
06:18 < AStorm> BTW, I'm seeing some weirdness with kernel build and split debug
06:18 < AStorm> Like some .debug files being created before the main flist being parsed
06:19 < AStorm> Had to add some grep -v, or else it enters a nasty loop
06:20 < AStorm> The culprits are r1000 driver
06:22 < AStorm> and sn9c102
06:23 < AStorm> Aha, it's strip failing on them for some reason :P
06:25 < AStorm> No, it's not failing, as it seems.
06:26 < AStorm> Oh yes, it is.
06:27 < AStorm> It's forgetting to strip the debugging info
06:27 < AStorm> I'll use objcopy instead of strip, maybe
06:30 < AStorm> Weirdness!
06:30 < AStorm> My gentoo strip and objcopy can "fix" the files.
06:34 < AStorm> Ahha!
06:34 < AStorm> These drivers are made... twice
06:42 < AStorm> then I get the .debug files in the flist :>
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08:48 < rxr> re
09:01 < rxr> heh: http://www.tecchannel.de/blog/posts/190
09:07 < CIA-18> rene * r23283 /trunk/package/base/lm_sensors/lm_sensors.desc: * updated lm_sensors (2.10.2 -> 2.10.3)
09:12 < CIA-18> rene * r23284 /trunk/package/graphic/dcraw/dcraw.desc: * updated dcraw (8.68 -> 8.69)
09:19 < CIA-18> rene * r23285 /trunk/package/network/madwifi/ (macbook.patch madwifi.desc no-find-previous.patch):
09:19 < CIA-18> * updated madwifi (0.9.3 -> 0.9.30.10-r2230-20070328), the Atheros 0024 in MacBook and
09:19 < CIA-18> MacBook Pro rev2 starts to become functional, ...
09:26 < CIA-18> rene * r23286 /trunk/package/gnome2/gmime/gmime.desc: * updated gmime (2.2.4 -> 2.2.6)
09:30 < CIA-18> rene * r23287 /trunk/package/network/liferea/liferea.desc: * updated liferea (1.2.7 -> 1.2.10)
09:40 < CIA-18> rene * r23288 /trunk/package/network/libidn/libidn.conf: * fixed libidn compilation
10:07 -!- Enqlave is now known as Stelz
10:08 < Stelz> so - rehi
10:16 < CIA-18> rene * r23289 /trunk/package/archiver/zziplib/zziplib.desc: * updated zziplib (0.13.47 -> 0.13.49)
10:16 < CIA-18> rene * r23290 /trunk/package/archiver/zziplib/install.patch: * added matching zziplib install hotfix patch
10:16 < rxr> hi Stelz
10:17 < Stelz> hi rxr
10:18 < CIA-18> rene * r23291 /trunk/package/gnome2/libxklavier/libxklavier.desc: * updated libxklavier (3.1 -> 3.2)
11:49 < CIA-18> rene * r23292 /trunk/package/office/pdfedit/ (. no-doc.patch pdfedit.cache pdfedit.conf pdfedit.desc): * added pdfedit (0.2.5) - A editor for manipulating PDF documents
12:40 < CIA-18> rene * r23293 /trunk/package/security/axtls/ (. axtls.cache axtls.conf axtls.desc): * added axtls (1.1.0) - A TLSv1 SSL library designed specifically for embedded devices
12:51 < CIA-18> rene * r23294 /trunk/package/security/matrixssl/ (. matrixssl.cache matrixssl.conf matrixssl.desc): * added matrixssl (1.8.3) - An embedded SSL implementation for small footprint devices
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14:36 < rxr> re
14:40 < Stelz> rehi rxr
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16:12 < Capey> damm, this auto* stuff is killing me
16:51 < rxr> yeah
16:51 < rxr> what are you on right now ?=
16:58 < AStorm> rxr: have you read about my kernel build failures?
17:00 < rxr> AStorm: yes
17:00 < rxr> where there with your debug stuff enabled or plain T2 ?
17:00 < rxr> http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS2837651365.html
17:01 < AStorm> rxr: both
17:01 < AStorm> The failure is not related to debugging (tried with split debug disabled, still happened)
17:02 < AStorm> Want a log?
17:04 < rxr> yeah log is good
17:05 < rxr> I know some third party modules fail in trunk as they are not updated for 2.6.20 yet
17:05 < AStorm> Yes, these aren't
17:05 < AStorm> acx100 at least has a patch
17:05 < AStorm> r1000 doesn't need an external module anymore AFAICT (it's in the kernel too)
17:06 < AStorm> (that's why I'm seeing it double)
17:06 < AStorm> same with sn9csomething :P
17:06 < rxr> ah ok
17:06 < AStorm> The only one left is the atmel chip :>
17:06 < rxr> can you drop the patches somewhere ?
17:06 < AStorm> try gentoo :>
17:07 < AStorm> Why should I drop them, when they're widely available AND the newest version from acx100.sf.net works fine with 2.6.20?
17:07 < AStorm> :-)
17:07 < AStorm> (also, there's a proper patch in -mm)
17:08 < AStorm> Right now, I'll patchbomb you finished and tested split debug support.
17:09 < rxr> ok, I review the remaining nic build failures in a sec
17:17 < AStorm> rene@exactcode.de, right?
17:17 < AStorm> CC someone?
17:21 < rxr> could also use the list if you are subscribed
17:21 < rxr> but me directly is fine as well
17:21 < AStorm> Hmm, I'm still not subscribed.
17:21 < AStorm> Guess I'll finally subscribe :>
17:21 < AStorm> It goes to you, then.
17:23 < rxr> ok
17:23 < AStorm> Sent. :-)
17:25 < AStorm> Blah, I've subscribed to t2 using that crummy gmail address :P
17:25 < AStorm> Will have to fix that.
17:27 < rxr> did you test the patch ?
17:28 < rxr> ah sorry overread a line myself ... most probably all fnie
17:29 < AStorm> Yes, I did test the patch :-)
17:30 < AStorm> Blah!
17:30 < AStorm> Again, a TPYO strikes
17:30 < AStorm> Notice line with grep
17:30 < AStorm> :>
17:30 < AStorm> And please fix.
17:30 < rxr> hehe ok
17:30 < rxr> that also the line I overread :-)
17:31 < rxr> I think I also go implement this commonly used subdir naming so people feel @home when the use T2
17:31 < AStorm> Ok.
17:32 < AStorm> It's quite easy to implement, just add an if and change dbg variable
17:33 < rxr> yep
17:40 < AStorm> I'm still having a backlog of about 3 months on gmail POP :/
17:40 < AStorm> And it doesn't send proper UIDL - says there are about 1k messages at most
17:40 < AStorm> Which is simply not true :P
17:40 < AStorm> Thus I have to run fetchmail multiple times :/
17:52 < CIA-18> rene * r23295 /trunk/architecture/share/kernel-common.conf.m4:
17:52 < CIA-18> * added CONFIG_VT to the default kernel options, needed for a
17:52 < CIA-18> defconf-less 2.4.x build
17:53 < CIA-18> rene * r23296 /trunk/package/base/linux24/disable-broken.lst:
17:53 < CIA-18> * removed DEVFS from the linux24/disable-broken list as it is quite
17:53 < CIA-18> handy if you still need a 2.4 kernel for some reason (e.g. embedded
17:53 < CIA-18> boards) and can not yet have u/dev
17:53 < CIA-18> * added CONFIG_CDU535 instead as it actually really fails to build
17:53 < CIA-18> rene * r23297 /trunk/package/base/linux24/linux24.desc: * updated linux24 (2.4.34.1 -> 2.4.34.2)
17:53 < rxr> heh - linux24 build now again on the trunk reference builder :-)
17:56 < AStorm> :-)
18:01 < rxr> -> Compiler Cache Hits while pkg build: 26.23% (452 hits, 1271 misses)
18:01 < rxr> how that reference builder ccache was untrained ...
18:13 < rxr> s/how/now/
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18:24 < CIA-18> rene * r23298 /trunk/package/develop/libuninum/libuninum.desc: * updated libuninum (2.2 -> 2.3)
18:24 < CIA-18> rene * r23299 /trunk/package/textproc/msort/msort.desc: * updated msort (8.39 -> 8.40)
18:39 < LMJ> moin moin
18:39 < rxr> moin moin LMJ
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18:56 < CIA-18> rene * r23300 /trunk/package/multimedia/sn9c102/: * removed multimedia/sn9c102, it's in the kernel, nowadays
19:06 < rxr> hi madtux and mqueiros
19:07 < madtux> G'Day rxr
19:07 < rxr> how are you miguel?
19:07 < madtux> quite good. how about u? :)
19:09 < rxr> fine thanks
19:16 < rxr> madtux: what do you do these days - still over-busy ?
19:16 < madtux> switching jobs right now..
19:16 < madtux> signed with hp.
19:16 < rxr> aha, what do you do there then ?
19:16 < madtux> got to stay at my current job for 2 more weeks
19:17 < madtux> rxr: will work on the ITO Unix Group
19:17 < madtux> meaning managing a lot of Unix/Linux servers
19:26 < mqueiros> Hello...
19:36 < mqueiros> Does T2 works like Linux From Scratch ?
19:36 < mqueiros> I would like to give it a try....
19:36 < rxr> yes, like LFS, just compeltely automated
19:37 < mqueiros> rxr: ok. thanks...
19:38 < madtux> similar concept than LFS.... but much more powerfull and advanced ;-)
19:38 < mqueiros> madtux: Yes... it seemed like that. :)
19:38 < mqueiros> I'm thinking of installing an "old" 20GB hard drive to give it a try... any problem with that ?
19:39 < rxr> nope
19:39 < rxr> only keep in mind that the just releases CDs are minimal X.org Live versions
19:39 < rxr> (without installer ...)
19:40 < mqueiros> Is there any torrent link to download from ?
19:40 < rxr> if you are an advanced user you might build directly from the source
19:40 < rxr> (the t2 source)
19:40 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/documentation/buildintro.html
19:41 < madtux> the charm of the "automated" part is that is easy to learn and get used to build ur own stuff
19:41 < mqueiros> rxr: I'v been using Linux for several years...
19:41 < madtux> if ya have experience... u can not only have fun but also perhaps help the project in several different ways
19:41 < rxr> mqueiros: I would propose then to grab the 6.0.3.tar.bz2 release tarball and build exactly what you want from the T2 sources
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19:42 < mqueiros> madtux: It would be great if I could help the project... Right now I've got a lot of work... but maybe in the future.
19:43 < mqueiros> rxr: ok, thanks... I will to that as soon as I can.
19:44 < mqueiros> any torrent link to download from ?
19:45 < rxr> nope, sorry, not that I know off
19:45 < mqueiros> rxr: ok... no problem.
19:45 < madtux> have fun mqueiros :-)
19:50 < Stelz> heya madtux
19:50 < madtux> hallo Stelz
19:55 < CIA-18> rene * r23301 /trunk/package/network/acx100/ (acx100.desc linux-2.6.18.patch postlinux.conf): * updated acx100 (20060521 -> 20070101)
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20:10 < CIA-18> rene * r23302 /trunk/package/network/at76c503a/at76c503a.desc: * updated at76c503a (2006-12-31 -> 2007-03-28)
20:11 < AStorm> Ok, now adding separate alsa-drivers :>
20:12 < rxr> we have this alsa-driver package
20:12 < rxr> we just only use it for 2.4
20:12 < rxr> usually the 2.6 included alsa stuff is pretty fine
20:12 < rxr> what do you miss specifically
20:12 < rxr> you could even condigure the kernel to not build the internal alsa drivers and use the alsa-driver package instead ...
20:12 < rxr> that's the lovely target flexibility of t2 ...
20:13 < AStorm> rxr: exactly, change the default
20:13 < AStorm> ALSA in the kernel is... old
20:13 < AStorm> 2.6.20 has some .13 version
20:13 < rxr> well - just some weeks ...
20:13 < AStorm> Currently. Will be some months before 2.6.21 comes out.
20:13 < rxr> I consider alsa-driver as a -mm a-like patch tree ..
20:14 < AStorm> Hmm, not really :>
20:14 < AStorm> It's fairly stable in my testing (like 6 soundcards, 2 ac97 chips, 1 hda, 1 ice1724, 1 emu10k1, 1 something-cheap-I-can't-recall)
20:15 < AStorm> Gentoo is recommending that anyway instead of kernel drivers
20:15 < AStorm> and there are little complaints
20:17 < AStorm> Hmm, I've some additional .desc to add: alsa-plugins
20:17 < AStorm> :-)
20:17 < AStorm> E.g. the essential libsamplerate plugin :-)
20:17 < AStorm> (for your HQ sound mixing needs)
20:18 < rxr> :-)
20:18 < rxr> alsa-bluez *something* is also on some TODO or bug tracker
20:18 < rxr> the Bluetooth pairing stuff ...
20:18 < rxr> still beta
20:18 < rxr> might care propose a patch for those ?
20:18 < AStorm> Hmm, you mean the bluetooth sound driver? Never used that yet.
20:18 < AStorm> I don't have the hardware to test (I've got bluez, but no sound device)
20:20 < rxr> too bad :-(
20:22 < AStorm> Maybe I'll buy some mic
20:22 < AStorm> (need one anyway)
20:22 < AStorm> I hope there's one in the "not too expensive" category
20:22 < rxr> usually used for headsets ...
20:23 < AStorm> Hm.
20:23 < AStorm> I've got good headphones anyway (|^_^|)
20:26 < AStorm> Now, the pendrive got backordered, but that won't stop my plan to take over the world ]:->
20:27 < CIA-18> rene * r23303 /trunk/package/network/hostap-driver/ (3 files): * fixed hostap-driver postlinux registration, unfortunatly this is not enough to make it build
20:32 < AStorm> Hmm, so I have to make my fetchmail run round'n'round
20:32 < AStorm> :-)
20:32 < AStorm> (so that I get the SVN log there :> )
20:33 < AStorm> And move some other MLs to categorise them better (e.g. everything from vger.kernel.org)
20:35 < AStorm> Hmmm, moving those 200k messages of LKML will take a while...
20:43 < AStorm> I have to hook up that last one stupid pw.edu.pl mailbox (those dummies didn't give any info on how to do it, the server addresses - at worst I'll use some shell script with ssh)
20:47 < CIA-18> rene * r23304 /trunk/package/multimedia/lirc/2.6.20.patch: * imported lirc/2.6.20.patch from Gentoo
20:47 < rxr> so, now out of all the "crappy" third party linux kernel modules we have in t2, only hostap-driver and adm8211 still fail
20:47 < rxr> all the others should be fine
20:47 < rxr> - at least they compile on x86-64 -
20:49 < rxr> maybe I have time at home to continue this puzzle
20:51 < rxr> cu
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