--- Log opened Wed Mar 28 00:00:57 2007 01:20 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@kobz-590ca376.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #t2 01:22 -!- idealm [n=ideal@c58-107-18-60.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #t2 01:28 -!- mtr [n=Michael@kobz-590cac4f.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 01:28 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr 02:28 -!- d-marc [n=d-marc@HSI-KBW-085-216-123-177.hsi.kabelbw.de] has quit ["KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/"] 02:34 -!- idealm [n=ideal@c58-107-18-60.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:31 -!- idealm [n=ideal@c58-107-18-60.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #t2 05:03 -!- idealm [n=ideal@c58-107-18-60.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 06:56 -!- idealm [n=ideal@c58-107-18-60.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #t2 07:10 -!- LMJ [n=serwou@laf31-2-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #t2 07:44 -!- idealm [n=ideal@c58-107-18-60.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:13 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: sepp_ 08:14 -!- Netsplit over, joins: sepp_ 08:47 < rxr> moin 08:56 < CIA-18> rene * r23263 /trunk/target/generic/pkgsel/50-minimal-desktop.in: 08:56 < CIA-18> * removed exim and the non-matching "xine" (we just have xine-libs 08:56 < CIA-18> and xine-ui) as well as added ffmpeg in the minimal-desktop pre- 08:56 < CIA-18> selection template 09:07 < CIA-18> susan * r23264 /trunk/package/network/dnrd/dnrd.desc: * updated dnrd (2.20.2 -> 2.20.3) 09:08 < CIA-18> susan * r23265 /trunk/package/gnome2/deskbar-applet/deskbar-applet.desc: * updated deskbar-applet (2.17.93 -> 2.18.0) 09:08 < CIA-18> susan * r23266 /trunk/package/dictionary/kanatest/kanatest.desc: * updated kanatest (0.4.1 -> 0.4.2) 09:08 < CIA-18> susan * r23267 /trunk/package/graphic/djvulibre/djvulibre.desc: * updated djvulibre (3.5.18 -> 3.5.19) 09:08 < CIA-18> susan * r23268 /trunk/package/textproc/raptor/raptor.desc: * updated raptor (1.4.14 -> 1.4.15) 09:13 < CIA-18> rene * r23269 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-video-nv/xf86-video-nv.desc: * updated xf86-video-nv (2.0.0 -> 2.0.1) 09:17 < mtr> moin 09:17 < CIA-18> rene * r23270 /trunk/package/mail/dovecot/dovecot.desc: * updated dovecot (1.0.rc27 -> 1.0.rc28) 09:23 < CIA-18> susan * r23271 /trunk/package/network/rtorrent/rtorrent.desc: * updated rtorrent (0.7.2 -> 0.7.3) 09:26 < rxr> mon mtr 09:26 < rxr> how are you? 09:26 [Users #t2] 09:26 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-18] [ R4gnar0k] [ Stelz] [ valentin] 09:26 [ AStorm ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ th ] 09:26 [ Capey ] [ mtr ] [ sepp_ ] [ TobiX] 09:26 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal] 09:29 < CIA-18> rene * r23272 /trunk/package/security/dirmngr/dirmngr.desc: * updated dirmngr (0.9.3 -> 0.9.7) 09:34 < CIA-18> rene * r23273 /trunk/package/network/libtorrent/libtorrent.desc: * updated libtorrent (0.11.2 -> 0.11.3) 09:43 < CIA-18> rene * r23274 /trunk/package/base/readline/readline.desc: * updated readline (5.2-001 -> 5.2-002) 09:51 < mtr> hi rxr 09:51 * mtr did survive CeBit ... ;-) 09:52 < mtr> as i read in the logs you had many many interesting new contacts for T2 09:52 < mtr> arggh, phone ringing again ... 10:11 < rxr> yes, was quite fine 10:12 < rxr> of course it depends what we can make out of the contact ... 10:12 < rxr> so - we are off some hours - cu 10:32 < mtr> cu 11:30 -!- Krunch_ [n=Krunch@ms804.montefiore.ulg.ac.be] has joined #t2 11:30 -!- Krunch_ [n=Krunch@ms804.montefiore.ulg.ac.be] has left #t2 [] 12:41 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Stelz 12:44 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 13:15 < mtr> rxr: Create-ErrList -newdelete -dry-run does not work as expected - the -dry-run seems to be ignored :( 13:15 < mtr> somehow related to r23186? 13:18 < mtr> 23186 rene [ "$dryrun" = "1" ] && uninstall_pkg build/$SDECFG_ID $pkg 13:18 < mtr> shouldn't it be dryrun = 0 ? 13:21 < rxr> for me it worked 13:21 < rxr> err one second 13:21 < rxr> indeed 13:21 < AStorm> :P 13:21 < AStorm> Ok, almost got the new fast pendrive. 13:22 < AStorm> That will certainly be a motivator :P 13:22 < AStorm> Other than that, I'm doing the split debug properly now. 13:22 < rxr> - [ "$dryrun" = "1" ] && uninstall_pkg build/$SDECFG_ID $pkg 13:22 < rxr> - [ "$dryrun" = "1" ] && rm -f build/$SDECFG_ID/var/adm/*/?-$pkg.* 13:22 < rxr> + [ "$dryrun" = "1" ] || uninstall_pkg build/$SDECFG_ID $pkg 13:22 < rxr> + [ "$dryrun" = "1" ] || rm -f build/$SDECFG_ID/var/adm/*/?-$pkg.* 13:22 < rxr> else 13:22 < rxr> echo "Scheduling package '$pkg' for rebuild ..." 13:22 < rxr> - [ "$dryrun" = "1" ] && rm -f build/$SDECFG_ID/var/adm/*/?-$pkg.* 13:22 < rxr> + [ "$dryrun" = "1" ] || rm -f build/$SDECFG_ID/var/adm/*/?-$pkg.* 13:24 < AStorm> rxr: where was I to add that split debug again? 13:24 < AStorm> Some hook, but where? 13:25 < CIA-18> rene * r23275 /trunk/scripts/Create-ErrList: * fixed Create-ErrList -dry-run conditional that recently was inverted accidently 13:27 < AStorm> I mean, where does one customarily add these? 13:27 < AStorm> is functions.in the right placE? 13:29 < AStorm> Hm, and I've a tiny problem... 13:30 < AStorm> the postflist hook will make the package not record the .debug files :P 13:30 < AStorm> I should rather do it before flist, but then, finding the executables will require find :P 13:30 < AStorm> (or some ugly hack) 13:32 < rxr> AStorm: you can manually add the generated files to the flist in that hook 13:32 < AStorm> I know, just sounds hacky :P 13:32 < rxr> I think postflist is the only chance to get all files automatically ... 13:32 < AStorm> Mhm. 13:32 < AStorm> But I only want executables and lists :P 13:32 < rxr> well - for each file do objdump ; strip ; add_to_flist 13:32 < rxr> done 13:32 < AStorm> And it won't work :P 13:33 < AStorm> will error out on non-execs :P 13:33 < AStorm> Ugly :P 13:33 < AStorm> Would have to do the add_to_flist conditionally on $? 13:33 < AStorm> of the objdump 13:33 < AStorm> maybe strip too. 13:34 < AStorm> Hm. 13:34 < AStorm> And adding the hook itself in init_all_hooks, right? 13:34 < AStorm> (of course, when the config variable is set properly) 13:34 < rxr> well - of course with the conditional checking for executabls / success ... 13:35 < rxr> no - the scripts/ should not be touched with this 13:35 < AStorm> Right, except the config. 13:35 < rxr> rather do this in gdb or maybe even better binutils 13:35 < rxr> /parse-config 13:35 < AStorm> Yes yes. 13:35 < AStorm> Ok. 13:36 < AStorm> And add the hook there? 13:36 < AStorm> (I mean, enable it) 13:36 < AStorm> Or just a separate file, which is sourced in case of $CFGSDE_DEBUG = 2? 13:37 < AStorm> (in parse-config) 13:39 < AStorm> There's no "hooks" directory :> 13:42 < AStorm> grepping for "hook" shows only functions.in :P 13:42 < AStorm> Ok, maybe not only 13:43 < AStorm> some "misc/tail" 13:44 < AStorm> So you say, I should create a subdir there, like splitdebug 13:44 < AStorm> and put the hook and parse-config overlay there? 13:46 < AStorm> I'll move whole debugging there then, why not :> 13:48 < rxr> binutils/parse-config should work 13:49 < rxr> adding the hook function in their based on the config setting 13:49 < AStorm> Ok, so it goes there. 13:49 < AStorm> The basic config selection should stay the same as it is, or do I have to add some sourcing? 13:50 < rxr> you mean the Config exposed switch? 13:51 < rxr> maybe we add a second one so the config remains compatible across versions 13:51 < AStorm> It will still. 13:51 < AStorm> That's why the value's 2 13:51 < rxr> a seperate bool asking whether to seperate the debug info if the first is enabled ... 13:51 < AStorm> 0 and 1 are taken :> 13:51 < rxr> hm ,ok 13:52 < AStorm> This binutils/parse-config I have to create, right? (in misc) 13:58 < rxr> in package/base/binutils/parse-config 13:59 < AStorm> Hmm, ok. 13:59 < AStorm> But will that be parsed on every package? :> 13:59 < AStorm> (I mean, will the hook be enabled from there properly) 14:00 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:01 -!- emte_ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 14:08 < AStorm> Ok, will that path be correct? 14:08 < AStorm> $root/$SDECFG_DEBUG_PATH/$f.debug 14:08 < AStorm> (on postflist) 14:08 < AStorm> $f is read from stding 14:08 < AStorm> *stdin 14:13 < rxr> you mean to allow having some top-level /debug or so dir? 14:13 < rxr> it would be empty by default ? 14:13 < AStorm> Yep. 14:13 < AStorm> It would be created in the hook, probably 14:14 < AStorm> So that you could have 10 separate debug dirs :P 14:14 < AStorm> (the executables contain the debuglink :> ) 14:14 < AStorm> s/executables/ELF format files/ 14:15 < rxr> what would the user enter there? 14:15 < AStorm> /opt/debug is the default 14:15 < AStorm> so I guess something like that 14:16 < rxr> opt/debug? didn't you write that other distributions use something ilke debug/$f or so per directory where file $f is in ? 14:16 < AStorm> Yes, they do 14:16 < AStorm> and it makes a great mess 14:16 < AStorm> :P 14:16 < AStorm> It's harder to split the debugging info then 14:17 < rxr> harder to split ? 14:17 < rxr> you mean to find it by an human? 14:17 < rxr> well, when this ./debug/$f is already established maybe this should be the default and other styles available for optional selection ? 14:18 < AStorm> Well... 14:18 < AStorm> Well 14:18 < AStorm> if you set the debug path to "" 14:18 < AStorm> it's close :P 14:18 < AStorm> it will create the .debug files by the executables 14:18 < AStorm> Hm 14:20 < AStorm> well, the debugging options could also add -g3 to the flags 14:20 < AStorm> -g == -g2 14:20 < AStorm> (same, but w/o macro expansion) 14:22 < th> as i can see there is no "server" target or something... 14:22 < th> would i use the generic target? 14:22 < AStorm> Yes. 14:22 < th> are there some maintained pkgsels? 14:22 < AStorm> or write your own 14:37 < AStorm> rxr: to reiterate: will that parse-config be ran on each package? 14:41 < CIA-18> rene * r23276 /trunk/package/base/sysstat/ (sysstat.conf sysstat.desc): * updated sysstat (7.1.1 -> 7.1.3) 14:46 < rxr> yes 14:46 < AStorm> Good. BTW, how can one split SVN commits? :> 14:47 < AStorm> I mean, only commit a part of the change 14:47 < rxr> th: yes the package selection templates exists, minimal, minimal-xorg, minimal-desktop 14:47 < rxr> maybe use minimal for your server 14:47 < rxr> or start a minimal-server one ? 14:47 < th> sounds still familiar ;) 14:47 < th> do you have a bbs pkgsel? 14:47 < rxr> bbs ? 14:48 < th> buildbootstrap 14:48 < rxr> heh, no 14:48 < th> including everything to build 14:48 < th> including ssh and svn 14:48 < rxr> guess our minimal comes close 14:48 < th> and all refbuilds happen on fresh installs of this generic-pkgsel 14:48 < th> actually i used minimal as a scratch for the bbs 14:49 < rxr> but we focus to be buildable on even crappy linux messes due to companies cross-building embedded products with T2 on RedHat and SuSE, et al. 14:49 < rxr> you are free to send a bbs pkgsel :-) 14:50 < th> "being able to build" and having a consistent and non-chaning reference buildplatform are two distinct things 14:51 < rxr> of course 14:51 < rxr> if you want to send a minimal-bootstrap-whatever patch it's welcome .-) 14:52 < AStorm> minimal-useless-system you mean? :> 14:56 < CIA-18> rene * r23277 /tags/6.0.3/: * tagged 6.0.3 14:59 < AStorm> rxr: like this? http://wklej.org/id/8e213b52eb 14:59 < AStorm> (don't mind the whitespace damage - can't paste it much better :P ) 15:01 < rxr> I would keep the debug dir creation in the parse-config 15:01 < AStorm> Well, impossible 15:01 < rxr> Build-Pkg should become more modular, not get new files ... 15:01 < AStorm> It's like /opt/debug/usr/lib/libc.so.6 15:01 < AStorm> :> 15:02 < rxr> well - before the foreach do the mkdir ... 15:02 < AStorm> Whoops, I forgot to back off that change 15:02 < AStorm> it's not necessary 15:02 < rxr> yeha, ok :-) 15:02 < AStorm> rxr: uh... notice the dirname 15:02 < rxr> and then you have no feeding with the file list in the function 15:02 < AStorm> It's like /opt/lib/usr/bin/gcc.debug 15:02 < AStorm> :-) 15:03 < rxr> and no check for executables 15:03 < AStorm> rxr: notice the error check against objdump 15:03 < rxr> and please do not copy a ROCK Linux copyright when you start a file from sratch 15:03 < rxr> AStorm: ah, ok 15:03 < AStorm> Aha, thanks then :P 15:03 < AStorm> Just used the tools :P 15:03 < rxr> but it might aboart the build on error 15:03 < rxr> just do objdump ... || continue :-) 15:03 < AStorm> Hmm... 15:04 < AStorm> Yep, simpler :P 15:04 < rxr> usually the T2 scripts are run with set -e to abort on the first error 15:04 < AStorm> Ah, thanks for the heads-up 15:04 < AStorm> I've yet to test it 15:04 < AStorm> then patchbomb you 15:05 < th> hehe - apropos. i found one in the live cd's resolv.conf 15:05 < rxr> don't forget to feed your loop with the flist content ... 15:05 < rxr> th: ? 15:05 < th> rxr: on the t-resc 15:05 < th> /etc/resolv.conf 15:06 < AStorm> rxr: isn't that passed as the argument? 15:08 < AStorm> Ah yes, now I get it (checked the static lib postflist hook) 15:08 < rxr> th: you mean ROCK header? 15:08 < th> rxr: yes 15:09 < rxr> th: sure, we did not can do not want and are not allowed to remove them :-) 15:10 < th> well you can replace the resolv.conf 15:10 < rxr> yeah, ... 15:12 < CIA-18> rene * r23278 /tags/6.0.3/scripts/parse-config: * bumped version to 6.0.3 for release 15:13 < th> there are no general pkgsels anymore? only per target? 15:13 < rxr> what do you mean ? 15:14 < rxr> the package preselection templates only work on the generic target 15:14 < rxr> other target usually imply way more destinct selection and those tempaltes are incompatible 15:14 < th> so why are there 7 pkgsel dir's ? 15:14 < rxr> dirts? 15:14 < rxr> dirs? 15:14 < rxr> can you point me to some url ? 15:14 < th> oh 15:14 < th> that's not dirs 15:15 < th> files 15:15 < th> and for generic 15:15 < th> it's a dir 15:15 < th> t2-trunk % ls -ld `find -name pkgsel` 15:15 < rxr> well 15:15 < rxr> this pkgsel is our preferred way to do the selecciton 15:15 < rxr> most targets have one 15:15 < rxr> and there are those templates for the generic resisting in target/generic/pkgsel/ 15:16 < rxr> also not that our pkgsels allow a include statement and some other tricks and are parsed by Lua ... 15:16 < th> but i can still build a generic target with one of these pkgsels? 15:16 < rxr> == way faster 15:16 < rxr> yes 15:16 < rxr> those pre-selection are only selectable for the generic target 15:16 < th> hmmm. 15:16 < rxr> as they do not work well with other, e.g. embedded targets and so on 15:16 < th> interesting 15:16 < rxr> those target are usually designed for a specific package set 15:17 < rxr> not some random other selection 15:17 < th> i could see some sense for different pkgsels for e.g. the desktop target 15:17 < th> or for a (non existing) server target 15:17 < rxr> sure, but they need to be designed for desktop use 15:17 < rxr> the desktop target could expose it's own 15:18 < rxr> the embedded target even (currently via the old, ugly sed stuff) does major reselection based on whether a dietlibc or uclibc embedded target is wanted 15:18 < AStorm> rxr: btw, why is the config system so _sloooow_ 15:18 < AStorm> Like 5s/menu 15:18 < AStorm> on my C2D 15:18 < rxr> AStorm: because all the files are re-read and reparsed on every selection 15:18 < AStorm> Sounds yucky :> 15:18 < rxr> the Config even starts itself again on each selection 15:18 < AStorm> Gah. 15:18 < rxr> we have rewriting it on the TODO since some time already 15:18 < AStorm> :> 15:19 < rxr> if you want to do this, preferable in Lua you are very welcome 15:19 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/releases/ 15:19 < AStorm> Well, Lua is not my forte (though I know it), but maybe, yes. 15:19 < AStorm> Why not :-) 15:19 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/developer/soc.html 15:19 < AStorm> First things first, anyway :> 15:19 < rxr> http://bugs.t2-project.org 15:20 < rxr> ^- if you have too much time implement planned things ... 15:20 < AStorm> rxr: it's too late for SoC now, anyway 15:20 < AStorm> Slept over the registration 15:20 < AStorm> will still help you 15:20 < rxr> yeah, google did not accept T2 this year anyway :-(( 15:20 < rxr> guess they throw the project name into google and accept the applications by the numer of google hits they get ... 15:20 < rxr> guess under a milion they can them or so ... 15:20 < rxr> well - we work on to get in next year :-) 15:23 < AStorm> Same with initng :P 15:23 < AStorm> (which is my list of things to integrate with T2) 15:28 < AStorm> *on my list 15:34 < AStorm> Some of those SoC ideas are... great :-) 15:35 < AStorm> Esp. the multilib fix 15:36 < AStorm> I think that creating real system tags would help it 15:37 < AStorm> e.g. store the CHOST and some additional info in the flist 15:38 < AStorm> Modify dependency system to take it into account (32-bit pkgs only depping on 32-bit ones) 15:38 < AStorm> That would also help with creating parallel systems :> 15:39 < AStorm> It'd be nice to mark some files as arch-independent, e.g. html docs, manpages, other junk 15:39 < AStorm> Most everything of /usr/share 15:43 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 6.0.2 Released! | trunk heading for 7.0 | The T2 Open System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | http://bugs.t2-project.org | http://www.rafb.net/paste/ 15:43 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Thu Dec 7 14:05:35 2006] 15:43 -!- rxr changed the topic of #t2 to: T2 | 6.0.3Released! | trunk heading for 7.0 | The T2 Open System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | http://bugs.t2-project.org | http://www.rafb.net/paste/ 15:43 -!- rxr changed the topic of #t2 to: T2 | 6.0.3 Released! | trunk heading for 7.0 | The T2 Open System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | http://bugs.t2-project.org | http://www.rafb.net/paste/ 15:43 < rxr> so - enjoey 15:43 < rxr> -e 15:44 < AStorm> :-) 15:49 < CIA-18> mtr * r23279 /trunk/package/base/upstart/ (upstart.conf upstart.desc): 15:49 < CIA-18> * updated upstart (0.3.7 -> 0.3.8) 15:49 < CIA-18> * added example job definitions 16:00 -!- LMJ2 [n=c3196415@laf31-2-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #t2 16:00 < LMJ2> moin moin 16:01 * LMJ2 from work 16:06 < LMJ2> net-snmp fails on 6.0 and trunk : http://pastebin.ca/413495 16:10 -!- emte_ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 16:10 -!- emte_ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 16:12 < rxr> built fine here: less build/default-7.0-trunk-reference-x86-athlon-xp/var/adm/logs/5-net-snmp.log 16:12 < LMJ2> arg 16:13 < rxr> do you read the error? 16:13 < rxr> it appears to be complaining about --with-ssl as far as I can see 16:13 < LMJ2> let me update trunk 16:13 < rxr> did you add that manually somewhere ? 16:13 < LMJ2> no 16:18 < AStorm> missing openssl or gnutls maybe? 16:18 < AStorm> or according perl modules :P 16:22 < LMJ2> anyway, gtg 16:22 -!- LMJ2 [n=c3196415@laf31-2-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has left #t2 [] 16:40 < CIA-18> rene * r23280 /trunk/package/network/lftp/lftp.desc: * updated lftp (3.5.9 -> 3.5.10) 16:49 < th> is there something i can extract on some hdd when booted in live-cd to chroot into and start building? 16:55 < rxr> the t-resc you got or the 6.0.3 minimal-xorg ones ? 16:56 < th> the t-resc 16:56 < th> but the question was meant in general 16:56 < th> some build environment to chroot into 16:59 < rxr> the t-resc ships without compiler, linker and such ... 16:59 < th> that's why i was asking for something to extract to chroot into to have compilers in there 17:00 < rxr> the more complete live-cds such as the 6.0.3 one can of course my copied to the hard-disc 17:02 < rxr> s/my/be/ -^ 17:03 < th> ok - so i can put an iso of a more complete live-cd on the booted t-resc loop-mount it, and copy it on the hdd and then chroot into it. 17:05 < rxr> yep 17:05 < rxr> loop mount the live.squash in the image, it's the compressed SquashFS rootfs 17:18 < CIA-18> rene * r23281 /trunk/package/base/atop/ (. atop.cache atop.desc install.patch): * added atop (1.20) - A monitor for system resources and process activity 17:19 < rxr> http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=04140 17:47 -!- emte_ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:48 -!- emte_ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 18:06 -!- emte_ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:07 -!- emte_ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 18:17 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: emte_, mtr 18:18 -!- Netsplit over, joins: mtr 18:27 -!- emte_ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 18:45 -!- emte_ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:45 -!- emte_ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 19:00 < rxr> so - puh - T2 mirror cgi script works again ... 19:00 < rxr> we went thru a major exactcode.de site change required some tinkering to wire the old url to the new t2-project.org home ... 19:00 < rxr> so old T2 installs and continue to just retreive the mirror list ... 19:00 [Users #t2] 19:00 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-18] [ mtr ] [ sepp_] [ TobiX ] 19:00 [ AStorm ] [ emte_ ] [ R4gnar0k] [ Stelz] [ valentin] 19:00 [ Capey ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ th ] 19:00 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal] 19:20 < R4gnar0k> re 19:21 < rxr> mon R4gnar0k 19:21 < rxr> moin even 19:21 < Stelz> rehi R4gnar0k 19:21 < Stelz> hi rxr 19:26 < CIA-18> rene * r23282 /trunk/scripts/Download: 19:26 < CIA-18> * changed mirror download URL from http://exactcode.de to 19:26 < CIA-18> http://t2-project.org, the new, primary location 19:26 < rxr> hi Stelz 19:27 < rxr> the former location does RedirectPermanently to the new location for past T2 releases ... 19:58 -!- emte_ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:59 -!- emte_ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 20:03 -!- d-marc [n=d-marc@HSI-KBW-085-216-123-207.hsi.kabelbw.de] has joined #t2 20:03 < rxr> hi d-marc 20:03 < rxr> d-marc: sorry, off home in some seconds 20:03 < rxr> and rebooting my MacBook to test a new kernel ... 20:06 < rxr> d-marc: oh - I think I did not tell you the cebit photo link yet, did I? 20:07 < rxr> http://rene.rebe.name/photos/?p=/Cebit-2007/ 20:18 < rxr> omg: http://www.uranium.info/prices/monthly.html 20:18 < rxr> http://hardware.slashdot.org/hardware/07/03/28/1248228.shtml 20:25 < d-marc> thanks! 20:46 -!- emte_ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:47 -!- emte_ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 21:13 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.3.159.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 21:20 < AStorm> sepp: hullo 21:20 < AStorm> Hey guys, what is stopping you from using lxdialog and the rest of the kernel configuration system in T2 instead of the current one or implementing one yourself? 21:21 < AStorm> It's written in portable C :> 21:21 < AStorm> Should work everywhere Linux works on. 21:22 < AStorm> Or, if you don't like the license, use the Busybox config system. 21:23 < AStorm> Or maybe that's some case of NIH syndrome? 21:23 < AStorm> :> 21:28 < AStorm> The only change would be that you'd get no "export" keywords in the config file 21:28 < AStorm> And would have to convert the current config system to kernel configuration language (just modify the .hlp file :P ) 21:29 < AStorm> I'll see if that flies. 21:30 < AStorm> Hmm. And maybe allow running full kernel config from it too. This would run some script that'd download the source and run ARCH=.... make menuconfig 21:32 < AStorm> Now, on to testing the split debug patch. 21:33 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p85.212.34.99.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:36 -!- emte_ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:51 -!- misl [n=chatzill@84-104-172-187.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 21:54 < misl> hi folks 21:56 < AStorm> rxr: good, the debug patch works fine. 21:56 < AStorm> Except it creates some /opt/debug/var/adm/... dirs :P 21:56 < AStorm> I guess these end up in the flist 21:56 < AStorm> I'll modify it, so that it splits the debug to some tmp dir 21:57 < AStorm> And then if it succeeds, creates the dir and moves. 21:59 < AStorm> What temporary dir should I use? 22:03 < AStorm> Hmm... 22:03 < AStorm> it misses the crosscc somehow 22:03 < AStorm> as if those files aren't passed to flist or don't contain debugging info 22:03 < AStorm> That's why that -g3 is essential. 22:19 < AStorm> hm. 22:21 < AStorm> :-) 22:22 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Stelz, d-marc, @ChanServ, mtr, sepp 22:23 -!- Netsplit over, joins: @ChanServ, sepp, d-marc, mtr, Stelz 22:26 < AStorm> Hmm, so I should just use mktemp, huh? :> 22:28 < AStorm> rxr: how would I get the filtered flist? 22:30 -!- misl [n=chatzill@84-104-172-187.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.11/2007031202]"] 22:37 -!- Enqlave [i=stelz@unaffiliated/stelz] has joined #t2 22:38 -!- Stelz [i=stelz@unaffiliated/stelz] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:39 -!- nowYY [n=nowYY@213.144.157.75] has joined #t2 22:39 < nowYY> hi 22:45 < sepp> hi nowYY 22:54 < nowYY> is there a binary package management for t2 based distros? with dependency resolving maybe ? 22:56 < sepp> something like apt-get or whatever? no 22:56 < nowYY> how about pkg-tool? 22:56 < sepp> what is that? 22:57 < nowYY> pkg installation (in slackware) without dep resolving :) 22:58 < sepp> you can do that 23:00 < sepp> well, without dep resolving it means just extracting a tar.bz2, so that is not really hard to do 23:03 < sepp> the tool you can use for binary packages is called mine, but there is some plan to replace that 23:07 < nowYY> i see 23:08 < nowYY> it d be really cool if one could create rpm or deb from t2 packages, as they have dependency solving rc files 23:11 -!- d-marc [n=d-marc@HSI-KBW-085-216-123-207.hsi.kabelbw.de] has left #t2 ["Time makes no sense"] 23:11 < sepp> the dep info is already there, just some tool missing 23:12 < nowYY> yeah 23:45 -!- CIA-18 [i=cia@cia.navi.cx] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:45 -!- CIA-24 [i=cia@cia.navi.cx] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:49 -!- idealm [n=ideal@c58-107-18-60.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #t2 23:51 -!- CIA-18 [n=CIA@cia.navi.cx] has joined #t2 23:52 -!- CIA-25 [n=CIA@cia.navi.cx] has joined #gsmp 23:57 -!- nowYY [n=nowYY@213.144.157.75] has quit ["savIRC - The Cross-Platform IRC Client"] --- Log closed Thu Mar 29 00:00:58 2007