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08:37 < rxr> re
08:43 < rxr> valentin: btw. heise will release their own PS3 Linux distri for video streaming or so on the CeBIT :-(((
08:43 < rxr> valentin: yet a chance we missed :-(, ,damn Sony Corp. for not selling those things here, yet
08:43 < rxr> valentin: the PS3 DVD will be earilier in print (with the magazin) than the PS3 itself here in DE ...
09:05 < CIA-8> rene * r22878 /trunk/package/filesystem/iat/ (. iat.cache iat.desc): * added iat (0.1.3) - A tool for detecting the structure of a CD-ROM image
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09:24 < CIA-8> rene * r22879 /trunk/package/archiver/xdelta/ (gcc-4.patch glib2.patch xdelta.cache xdelta.desc): * updated xdelta (1.1.3 -> 1.1.4)
09:28 < CIA-8> susan * r22880 /trunk/package/shells/tcsh/tcsh.desc: * updated tcsh (6.14.00 -> 6.15.00)
09:28 < CIA-8> rene * r22881 /trunk/package/archiver/edelta/ (. compile.patch edelta.cache edelta.conf edelta.desc): * added edelta (0.9e) - A fast binary diff utility for executables
09:28 < CIA-8> susan * r22882 /trunk/package/develop/trac/trac.desc: * updated trac (0.10.3 -> 0.10.3.1)
09:28 < CIA-8> susan * r22883 /trunk/package/security/freeradius/freeradius.desc: * updated freeradius (1.1.4 -> 1.1.5)
09:29 < CIA-8> susan * r22884 /trunk/package/develop/mono-develop/mono-develop.desc: * updated mono-develop (0.13 -> 0.13.1)
09:29 < CIA-8> susan * r22885 /trunk/package/editors/tea/tea.desc: * updated tea (16.0.4 -> 16.0.5)
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09:40 < CIA-8> rene * r22886 /trunk/package/archiver/xdelta3/ (. xdelta3.cache xdelta3.conf xdelta3.desc): * added xdelta3 (30p) - Open-source binary diff, delta/differential compression tools
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09:46 [@ChanServ] [ emte_] [ R4gnar0k] [ Shingoshi] [ TobiX   ] 
09:46 [ Capey   ] [ LMJ  ] [ rxr     ] [ sparc-kly] [ valentin] 
09:46 [ CIA-8   ] [ mtr  ] [ sepp_   ] [ Stelz    ] 
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09:56 < CIA-8> susan * r22887 /trunk/package/multimedia/mjpegtools/mjpegtools.desc: * updated mjpegtools (1.9.0rc1 -> 1.9.0rc2)
10:19 < CIA-8> rene * r22888 /trunk/package/base/ (linux-header/avr32.patch strace/avr32-hotfix.patch): * removed strace/avr32-hotfix in favour of the real fix for linux-header
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11:01 < CIA-8> rene * r22889 /trunk/package/multimedia/libzvbi/libzvbi.desc: * updated libzvbi (0.2.24 -> 0.2.25)
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12:42 < CIA-8> rene * r22890 /trunk/package/graphic/escreen/ (DESTDIR.patch escreen.desc): * updated escreen (0.0.2 -> 0.0.3)
12:51 < CIA-8> rene * r22891 /trunk/package/graphic/escreen/ (DESTDIR.patch escreen.desc): * updated escreen (0.0.3 -> 0.0.4)
12:52 < rxr> 0.0.4 contains more than the DESTDIR patch :-) 1day++ FB hacking :-)
12:53 < rxr> just had the former thing lingering around on the regression tracker already ...
12:53 < rxr> cu - lunch :-)
12:53 [Users #t2]
12:53 [@ChanServ] [ emte_] [ R4gnar0k] [ Shingoshi] [ TobiX   ] 
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15:28 < AStorm> Drat!
15:29 < AStorm> I can't even build Cross LFS somehow!!!
15:29 < AStorm> Second try.
15:29 < AStorm> (with SMgL gcc)
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15:48 < AStorm> Maybe the stupid thing needs an additional patch? :P
15:48 < AStorm> This time, glibc.
15:48 < rxr> T2 or LFS ??
15:49 < AStorm> CLFS
15:49 < AStorm> T2 too.
15:50 < AStorm> Machine itself is ok.
15:50 < AStorm> :/
16:33 < rxr> http://polishlinux.org/apps/window-managers/metisse-you-thought-you-knew-what-3d-was/
16:35 < rxr> yeah - I know it's old, just some new screenshots ..
17:30 < CIA-8> rene * r22892 /trunk/scripts/functions.in: 
17:30 < CIA-8> * fixed new .desc overlaying code to not error out under -e
17:30 < CIA-8>  conditions (build inside linux :-)
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18:31 < LMJ> moin moin
18:32 < rxr> moin moin LMJ 
18:33 < LMJ> how are you rxr ?
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18:46 < rxr> LMJ: fine, all the new stuff is comming along quite well ...
18:46 < rxr> a whole lot of stuff in our queue, including a new http://www.exactcode.de homepage including store
18:46 < rxr> (not online yet in the case you click on it)
18:46 < rxr> but should be due cebit
18:46 < LMJ> cool ;)
18:46 < rxr> looking !way! more modern ...
18:47 < rxr> now that Susan finished her diploma all things really come along way faster
18:47 < LMJ> you're going to use a CMS for the exactcode website ?
18:47 < rxr> valentin: I'll used a hacked up version of miniescreen for the AVR32 boot-splash screen, now :-)
18:48 < rxr> yes Typo3 including a brand new and hacked up commerce store plugin
18:48 < rxr> susan spend over 2 weeks hacking this damn shop code up and to get it to work at all ...
18:48 < LMJ> what are you going to seel ?
18:49 < LMJ> sell
18:49 < rxr> well - mostly the OS X software
18:49 < rxr> that is our OS X Twain driver for some scanners and an associated capture application
18:50 < rxr> thing is OS X market is not that huge for business software and we need to max out it's value ourself
18:50 < rxr> because in australia the thing is selling better than in Germany/EU ....
18:50 < rxr> so we push it with an own store
18:50 < rxr> including bunding the scanners
18:50 < rxr> so we do not have to send the people to other locations to grab the scanner and on the way they find another one working on OS X ...
18:51 < rxr> we speak about mid-rage scanners from 300EUR to 3000 EUR ++ ...
18:51 < rxr> http://www.avision-europe.com/
18:52 < rxr> but you do not  need to worry, that is the only non-Linux thing we do and we do not plan any new
18:52 < rxr> our focus is on Embedded/Linux R&D
18:52 < rxr> but we could sell other stuff via the store as well - T2 Handbook, CDs, mugs whatever ...
18:53 < rxr> back to escreen: http://www.exactcode.de/oss/escreen/
18:53 < rxr> though it is not ready for joe's desktop
18:53 < rxr> but it is shipping as part of the current Archivista (T2 Linux) release and the trunk + hacks is running on the AVR32 board we'll show on the CeBIT
18:53 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/architectures/avr32.html
18:57 < LMJ> lol, i totally understand you need money to eat each day ;)
18:58 < LMJ> sound a good idea
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19:03 < rxr> heh - actually it's the other way round, we make most money with Linux related stuff
19:04 < LMJ> by selling services ?
19:04 < rxr> the OSX is just because we could and where we need to hunt to actually see money ...
19:04 < rxr> yes, the Research & Development
19:05 < LMJ> ok
19:06 < LMJ> a friend purposed me  some very good price on Apple stuff, maybe gonna buy a new laptop MacBook 13" or MacBook Pro 15"
19:06 < LMJ> i remember you've got one, right ?
19:06 < rxr> I would not recommend the Apple stuff these days
19:07 < rxr> in the past I enjoyed the quality and run just linux on them
19:07 < rxr> today they suck and I'm forced to have this s*it due to the OS X product ...
19:07 < LMJ> gonna run t2 on it
19:07 < rxr> http://rene.rebe.name/2006-12-21/apple-macbook-core-2-duo-c2d-review/
19:07 < rxr> http://rene.rebe.name/2006-06-26/apple-macbook-review/
19:07 < rxr> http://rene.rebe.name/2006-12-03/who-designes-this-crap-this-milleniums-laptops/
19:08 < LMJ> they really sucks ?  because i can get one brand new for half of the price
19:08 < rxr> it's unbelievable how they suck
19:08 < rxr> well - maybe it's just because I have been there when there where iBook and PowerBooks, but compared to that high quality the current things are pure utter crap ...
19:08 < rxr> if you can avoid them do so ...
19:08 < rxr> really ...
19:09 < rxr> IBM X60 or so would be way smoother I assume ...
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19:10 < rxr> MemTotal:         6180 kB
19:11 < Stelz> rehi all
19:11 < Stelz> hello, rxr
19:11 < Stelz> XFCE rulez.
19:11 < Stelz> 4.4
19:11 < rxr> :-)
19:11 < rxr> Stelz: back in t2 linux ?
19:12 < Stelz> uh?
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19:12 < rxr> Stelz: you had been in BSD, how is it this days ?
19:12 < Stelz> nope rxr :-) XFCE 4.4 works just perfect with my openbsd :-)
19:15 < axion> rxr: greets :) i have been busy with school, havent had time to try a new linux in 6 months. i'm still using my lfs 6.1, hehe. how are things these days?
19:19 < LMJ> ok rxr, you killed my Apple trip, even for 40% of the original price, i don't think i'm going to buy one
19:20 < rxr> well - at least read some indepedant reviews on the net
19:20 < rxr> axion: very good, thanks
19:20 < rxr> axion: are you in school or university ?
19:21 < axion> rxr: uni, i just finished 2 years for Web development.
19:23 < rxr> I ask because we applied for Google Summer of Code
19:23 < rxr> we do not yet now if they accept our submission
19:23 < axion> i'm going to have quite a bit of time to work with linux until i go back to school
19:23 < rxr> but maybe with luck you could apply for t2 related stuff for the summer then
19:25 < axion> rxr: recently i've been doing lots and lots of web html/css/php/sql ...maybe a new site sometime. other than that i'm pretty good with sh, but not experienced in working as a big group on a project...a couple people yeah...but I haven't ever learned svn or cvs much.
19:31 < LMJ> axion : do you know Joomla CMS ?
19:32 < axion> yes
19:32 < axion> i have not tried it yet...i'm planning on it for my current project when it's completed
19:33 < LMJ> maybe the new T2 website will be on this Joomla CMS, i have to complete the installation before replace the actual one, maybe you could have a look here http://serveur.email.free.fr
19:33 < axion> btw does anyone use konqueror...or any gui browser besides gecko-based?
19:34 < LMJ> firefox here
19:35 < axion> i like that design better
19:35 < axion> very clean, and fits a lot of information
19:35 < rxr> I use konqueror the whole day, yes
19:35 < rxr> eats less ram and runs faster ..
19:35 < rxr> MemTotal:         6328 kB
19:36 < axion> rxr, could you try viewing a project of mine so far and see if it looks ok?
19:36 < rxr> valentin: I know waste a few kB less on the framebuffer:
19:36 < rxr> t2-2007-03-09:19:10 < rxr> MemTotal:         6180 kB
19:36 < rxr> t2-2007-03-09:19:35 < rxr> MemTotal:         6328 kB
19:37 < rxr> axion: sure, but only briefly as we are about to run out of the office
19:37 < axion> http://72.226.92.39/bitclips/
19:37 < rxr> (usual every day 8 o'clock ceremony to get food before the lazy shops close ...)
19:37 < axion> if everything is positioned correctly is all i need to know. i had someone give me an IE screenshot and it looks like it does in firefox, all i care about is opera and konqueror now
19:39 < rxr> mostly
19:39 < Stelz> huh, rxr :-)
19:39  * Stelz :: Desktop [ http://slz.sytes.net/desktop.png ]
19:40 < rxr> just the big button links have a tiny white line when the mouse is over them
19:40 < rxr> ok the button font is also some pixels too large
19:40 < rxr> but nothing too serious so far
19:40 < axion> aha okay thanks. there is supposed to be a white border on them when the mouse is over, but if it doesnt line up i'll have to install konq
19:42 < axion> LMJ: i can give you some help when you are ready to switch the CMS
19:43 < LMJ> cool, i will catch you on the next week, there is a little bug i would like to fix
19:43 < axion> ok
19:43 < axion> what's the bug?
19:44 < rxr> axion: I can make you a khtml screenshot tomorrow
19:44 < rxr> if you like
19:44 < rxr> hav eto run now - cu
19:44 < axion> ok thanks, see ya rxr
19:46 < LMJ> axion : check wiki of forum, there is a BIG space we don't need
19:46 < axion> ok
19:48 < axion> debugging now
19:48 < LMJ> i don't know why
20:00 < axion> found it
20:01 < LMJ> nice ;)
20:01 < LMJ> CSS issue ?
20:02 < axion> the problem lies in line 83....the clearer class. remove that line fixes it
20:02 < axion> yes
20:02 < LMJ> good, thanks, i will do it tomorrow or so, i have to pick some friends at the airport right now ;)
20:03 < axion> i dont even see a clearer class defined in your css
20:03 < axion> ok
20:04 < LMJ> thanks
20:05 < axion> no prob
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20:06 < d-marc> hi
20:11 < TobiX> rxr: "we now have two Mac OS X products leaving me no choice but bite into the sour apple ..." <-- You wrote that sentence this way on purpose, right?
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20:14 < misl> hi folks
20:17 < AStorm> Apple and sour? Why? :>
20:18 < AStorm> Except the over-fancy case designs, they're very nice.
20:25 < Stelz> hello misl, d-marc
20:26 < misl> hi Stelz
20:34 < AStorm> Hell. Can't go with T2, can't go with CLFS...
20:34 < AStorm> Glibc sends me tons of "you have no TLS" errors.
20:35 < AStorm> When I fixed that (missed define), I got a brand new "invalid token" in some assembler file
20:35 < AStorm> where everything looks fine.
20:37 < AStorm> I'll try once again, ehh.
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21:50 < Stelz> rxr: ! we need to edit a link for a download location @ DistroWatch. http://www.t2-project.org/download.html -> http://www.t2-project.org/download/
21:50 < Stelz> :-)
21:50 < Stelz> hi Shingoshi
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23:22 < Shingoshi> Stelz: How long ago did you say hi?
23:22 < Stelz> 23:50'27 | Stelz> hi Shingoshi
23:22 < Stelz> 01:22'13 | Shingoshi> Stelz: How long ago did you say hi?
23:22 < Stelz> :-)
23:23 < Shingoshi> Yesterday?
23:24 < Stelz> yea
23:24 < Shingoshi> It's 14.23 here, on Mar,09
23:24  * Stelz :: Date/Time is now [ Sat Mar 10 01:24:04 ]
23:24 < Shingoshi> Stelz: How do you show the date/time? Is there a command for it?
23:25 < Stelz> yea. it's xchat functionality :)
23:25 < Shingoshi> Ok. It doesn't apply to me. Maybe it does, I just don't know how to get it in KSirc.
23:25 < Shingoshi> Let me look.
23:26 < Shingoshi> What is the commands name in xchat?
23:26 < Shingoshi> Is is a menu option?
23:27 < Stelz> settings -> advanced -> user commands -> help
23:28 < Stelz> needs some xchat "scriptage" :D
23:28 < Shingoshi> I sent a /time command. Did you see the output?
23:28 < Stelz> uh
23:29 < Shingoshi> Ok. It must only show in my terminal.
23:29 < Stelz> /time command show the time of the current server you are on
23:29 < Stelz> *shows
23:29 < Stelz> you must create a new command
23:29 < Stelz> in xchat
23:29 < Stelz> then bind a key-sequence for it
23:29 < Stelz> settings -> advanced -> user commands -> add new
23:30 < Shingoshi> So there is no embedded command for it.
23:30 < Stelz> settings -> advanced -> keyboard shortcut
23:30 < Stelz> Shingoshi: yea
23:30 < Stelz> i just created a lot of shortcuts for my needs.
23:30 < Shingoshi> I'll look into it later. Right now I need to eat. Get back to you later on.
23:30  * Stelz :: Avatar [ http://slz.sytes.net/avatar.png ]
23:30  * Stelz :: Desktop [ http://slz.sytes.net/desktop.png ]
23:30  * Stelz :: Site [ http://slz.sytes.net/ ]
23:30  * Stelz :: Server [ ftp://slz.sytes.net/ ]
23:30 < Stelz> etc.
23:31 < Stelz> have fun with your dinner then, Shingoshi :-)
23:31 < Shingoshi> Thanx!
23:41 < Stelz> but goodnight. i need to sleep :)
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