T2 IRC Log: 2007-02-19
This is the log as captured by an IRC bot in the channel. The statements are those of the individual people and might not neccessarily reflect the policy and legal rules as set forth by the T2 SDE Project.
--- Log opened Mon Feb 19 00:00:08 2007
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06:58 < smarTUX> anybody here able to help a T2 newbie
07:01 < LMJ> hi smarTUX, i wish help you but got to go at work
07:01 < LMJ> ttyl
07:40 < smarTUX> can anyone tell me how to change the console resolution to 800x600 on a fresh T2 installation
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08:27 < rxr> re
08:27 < rxr> smarTUX: edit the boot loader configuration and add vga=
08:27 < rxr> vga= with the mode number such as:
08:27 < rxr> vga=0x317
08:28 < rxr> you can find the modes in the kernel's Documentation/fb/vesafb.txt
08:28 < rxr> | 640x480 800x600 1024x768 1280x1024
08:28 < rxr> ----+-------------------------------------
08:28 < rxr> 256 | 0x101 0x103 0x105 0x107
08:28 < rxr> 32k | 0x110 0x113 0x116 0x119
08:28 < rxr> 64k | 0x111 0x114 0x117 0x11A
08:28 < rxr> 16M | 0x112 0x115 0x118 0x11B
08:28 < rxr> oh sorry you need to add 0x200
08:29 < rxr> | 640x480 800x600 1024x768 1280x1024
08:29 < rxr> ----+-------------------------------------
08:29 < rxr> 256 | 0x301 0x303 0x305 0x307
08:29 < rxr> 32k | 0x310 0x313 0x316 0x319
08:29 < rxr> 64k | 0x311 0x314 0x317 0x31A
08:29 < rxr> 16M | 0x312 0x315 0x318 0x31B
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08:31 [Users #t2]
08:31 [@ChanServ] [ emte__] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ valentin]
08:31 [ Capey ] [ LMJ ] [ R4gnar0k] [ smarTUX]
08:31 [ CIA-21 ] [ misl ] [ rxr ] [ Stelz ]
08:31 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal]
08:31 < smarTUX> thnx rxr
08:33 < CIA-21> rene * r22586 /trunk/package/xorg/randrproto/randrproto.desc: * updated randrproto (1.2.0 -> 1.2.1)
08:33 < CIA-21> rene * r22587 /trunk/package/xorg/libxrandr/libxrandr.desc: * updated libxrandr (1.1.2 -> 1.2.0)
09:20 < rxr> oh - cool
09:20 < rxr> Unionfs 2.0 is now part of Andrew Morton's -mm tree, as of January 9, 2007.
09:21 < CIA-21> susan * r22589 /trunk/package/multimedia/blender/blender.desc: * updated blender (2.42a -> 2.43)
09:21 < CIA-21> susan * r22590 /trunk/package/gnome2/icon-naming-utils/icon-naming-utils.desc: * updated icon-naming-utils (0.8.1 -> 0.8.2)
09:21 < CIA-21> susan * r22588 /trunk/package/gnome2/orbit2/orbit2.desc: * updated orbit2 (2.14.5 -> 2.14.6)
09:22 < CIA-21> susan * r22591 /trunk/package/network/openldap/openldap.desc: * updated openldap (2.3.33 -> 2.3.34)
09:29 < CIA-21> rene * r22592 /trunk/package/mail/fetchmail/fetchmail.desc: * updated fetchmail (6.3.6 -> 6.3.7)
09:33 < CIA-21> rene * r22593 /trunk/package/gnome2/regexxer/regexxer.desc: * updated regexxer (0.8 -> 0.9)
09:40 < CIA-21> rene * r22594 /trunk/package/xorg/xrandr/xrandr.desc: * updated xrandr (1.0.2 -> 1.2.0)
10:48 < CIA-21> rene * r22595 /trunk/package/filesystem/unionfs/ (10 files): * updated unionfs (1.5pre-cvs200612261700 -> 0.1/2.6.20)
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11:30 < CIA-21> rene * r22596 /trunk/target/share/livecd/init2: * default to aufs, if available, in the livecd startup
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11:31 [@ChanServ] [ emte_] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ valentin]
11:31 [ Capey ] [ LMJ ] [ R4gnar0k] [ smarTUX]
11:31 [ CIA-21 ] [ misl ] [ rxr ] [ Stelz ]
11:31 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal]
11:31 < CIA-21> rene * r22597 /trunk/target/share/livecd/build.sh:
11:31 < CIA-21> * removed obsolete, stay (unused) and hardcoded isofs x86 config
11:31 < CIA-21> from the livecd postprocessing code
11:31 < CIA-21> * minimal indention fixup on-the-way
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12:11 < sepp> moin :)
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12:14 < sepp> has blender still this "ohh you moron you compiled me on an 64bit cpu, i am very smart and can not read my own files now, so i just quit" feature? :P
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14:07 < rxr> sepp_: no idea
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14:12 [ Capey ] [ LMJ ] [ R4gnar0k] [ smarTUX]
14:12 [ CIA-21 ] [ misl] [ rxr ] [ Stelz ]
14:12 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal]
14:13 < rxr> sepp_: do you give blender a try ?
14:17 < sepp_> sure, wanted to see the sculpting tool before (from cvs) and it told me that i have a 64 bit cpu (which i already knew) and just quit
14:17 < sepp_> lol
14:22 < sepp_> "64 bits compiles will give incorrectly saved .blend files. Do not use it. For testing purposes please remove this line from creator.c" ...
14:22 < CIA-21> rene * r22598 /trunk/architecture/ (5 files in 3 dirs):
14:22 < CIA-21> * implemented syslinux/isolinux CD boot loader support
14:22 < CIA-21> * implemented selection between grub and isolinux CD boot loader support
14:22 < sepp_> it could at least stop at scons
14:23 < rxr> sepp_: do they (blender folks) plan to address this major bug sometime soon ?
14:23 < rxr> I mean - I have to hunt for a 32bit cpu here, maybe I find a good old sparc station or try running blender on a 32bit embedded board or what ?
14:23 < sepp_> guess it is not very useful even if you remove the exit() - if all you get are incompatible files
14:24 * rxr glances at the UltraSARC, the G5 and the x86-64 MacBook ... :-)
14:24 < sepp_> hehe
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14:24 * rxr spotted some 32bit boards on the board ...
14:24 * rxr wonders if Blender starts up on a ARM, MIPS or SuperH board ...
14:24 < sepp> dont know if there is a plan to fix that
14:26 < rxr> guess enough users complain already
14:26 < rxr> as most number crunchers are 64bit these days
14:27 * rxr wonders when the OpenOffice folks have their code ready for 64bit ...
14:27 < sepp> as with ooo?
14:27 < rxr> quite a joke that it still is not 64bit safe ...
14:27 < rxr> OpenOffice.org
14:27 < rxr> blender should be easier to fix though, not that much ugly crufty code ...
14:30 < sepp> :)
14:31 < sepp> next year :P
14:34 < CIA-21> rene * r22599 /trunk/architecture/x86/boot/ (boot.in isolinux.cfg menu.lst):
14:34 < CIA-21> * finetuned whitespacing in the x86 GRUB and isolinux CD loader configuration
14:34 < CIA-21> * implementing defining the isolinux boot label default
14:46 < CIA-21> rene * r22600 /trunk/target/share/ (install/build.sh livecd/build.sh):
14:46 < CIA-21> * improved install and livecd image post-processing to wipe the isofs
14:46 < CIA-21> directory in the beginning, otherwise updated kernel, and updated or
14:46 < CIA-21> switched boot-loader accumulate
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16:49 < CIA-21> rene * r22601 /trunk/package/base/gcc/gcc.conf:
16:49 < CIA-21> * disabled C++ STL precompiled header generation during the gcc build,
16:49 < CIA-21> it's barely useful and just blows up the gcc binary package size
16:49 < CIA-21> unnecessarily
16:49 < CIA-21> rene * r22602 /trunk/package/base/gcc/ (gcc.desc i386-Os.patch no-install-libiberty.patch): * updated gcc (4.1.1 -> 4.1.2)
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16:53 < rxr> moin sparc-kly
16:56 < sparc-kly> hi rxr :)
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17:11 < CIA-21> rene * r22603 /trunk/package/mail/dovecot/dovecot.desc: * updated dovecot (1.0.rc21 -> 1.0.rc22)
17:11 < rxr> sparc-kly: how are you
17:11 < rxr> welcome back smarTUX
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17:58 < Demian> hi
18:04 < misl> hi folks
18:06 < Demian> hi misl
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18:11 < rxr> hi d-marc and Demian
18:11 < rxr> err hi d-marc and misl :-)
18:12 < d-marc> hi
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18:20 < CIA-21> susan * r22604 /trunk/package/base/inotify-tools/inotify-tools.desc: * updated inotify-tools (3.7 -> 3.8)
18:21 < CIA-21> rene * r22605 /trunk/package/graphic/imagemagick/imagemagick.desc: * updated imagemagick (6.3.2-4 -> 6.3.2-7)
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18:44 < LMJ> moin moin
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19:59 < rxr> moin moin LMJ
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20:17 < rxr> so - I'm off now - cu tomorrow
20:25 < d-marc> bye!
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06:58 < smarTUX> anybody here able to help a T2 newbie
07:01 < LMJ> hi smarTUX, i wish help you but got to go at work
07:01 < LMJ> ttyl
07:40 < smarTUX> can anyone tell me how to change the console resolution to 800x600 on a fresh T2 installation
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08:27 < rxr> re
08:27 < rxr> smarTUX: edit the boot loader configuration and add vga=
08:27 < rxr> vga= with the mode number such as:
08:27 < rxr> vga=0x317
08:28 < rxr> you can find the modes in the kernel's Documentation/fb/vesafb.txt
08:28 < rxr> | 640x480 800x600 1024x768 1280x1024
08:28 < rxr> ----+-------------------------------------
08:28 < rxr> 256 | 0x101 0x103 0x105 0x107
08:28 < rxr> 32k | 0x110 0x113 0x116 0x119
08:28 < rxr> 64k | 0x111 0x114 0x117 0x11A
08:28 < rxr> 16M | 0x112 0x115 0x118 0x11B
08:28 < rxr> oh sorry you need to add 0x200
08:29 < rxr> | 640x480 800x600 1024x768 1280x1024
08:29 < rxr> ----+-------------------------------------
08:29 < rxr> 256 | 0x301 0x303 0x305 0x307
08:29 < rxr> 32k | 0x310 0x313 0x316 0x319
08:29 < rxr> 64k | 0x311 0x314 0x317 0x31A
08:29 < rxr> 16M | 0x312 0x315 0x318 0x31B
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08:31 [Users #t2]
08:31 [@ChanServ] [ emte__] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ valentin]
08:31 [ Capey ] [ LMJ ] [ R4gnar0k] [ smarTUX]
08:31 [ CIA-21 ] [ misl ] [ rxr ] [ Stelz ]
08:31 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal]
08:31 < smarTUX> thnx rxr
08:33 < CIA-21> rene * r22586 /trunk/package/xorg/randrproto/randrproto.desc: * updated randrproto (1.2.0 -> 1.2.1)
08:33 < CIA-21> rene * r22587 /trunk/package/xorg/libxrandr/libxrandr.desc: * updated libxrandr (1.1.2 -> 1.2.0)
09:20 < rxr> oh - cool
09:20 < rxr> Unionfs 2.0 is now part of Andrew Morton's -mm tree, as of January 9, 2007.
09:21 < CIA-21> susan * r22589 /trunk/package/multimedia/blender/blender.desc: * updated blender (2.42a -> 2.43)
09:21 < CIA-21> susan * r22590 /trunk/package/gnome2/icon-naming-utils/icon-naming-utils.desc: * updated icon-naming-utils (0.8.1 -> 0.8.2)
09:21 < CIA-21> susan * r22588 /trunk/package/gnome2/orbit2/orbit2.desc: * updated orbit2 (2.14.5 -> 2.14.6)
09:22 < CIA-21> susan * r22591 /trunk/package/network/openldap/openldap.desc: * updated openldap (2.3.33 -> 2.3.34)
09:29 < CIA-21> rene * r22592 /trunk/package/mail/fetchmail/fetchmail.desc: * updated fetchmail (6.3.6 -> 6.3.7)
09:33 < CIA-21> rene * r22593 /trunk/package/gnome2/regexxer/regexxer.desc: * updated regexxer (0.8 -> 0.9)
09:40 < CIA-21> rene * r22594 /trunk/package/xorg/xrandr/xrandr.desc: * updated xrandr (1.0.2 -> 1.2.0)
10:48 < CIA-21> rene * r22595 /trunk/package/filesystem/unionfs/ (10 files): * updated unionfs (1.5pre-cvs200612261700 -> 0.1/2.6.20)
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11:30 < CIA-21> rene * r22596 /trunk/target/share/livecd/init2: * default to aufs, if available, in the livecd startup
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11:31 [Users #t2]
11:31 [@ChanServ] [ emte_] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ valentin]
11:31 [ Capey ] [ LMJ ] [ R4gnar0k] [ smarTUX]
11:31 [ CIA-21 ] [ misl ] [ rxr ] [ Stelz ]
11:31 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal]
11:31 < CIA-21> rene * r22597 /trunk/target/share/livecd/build.sh:
11:31 < CIA-21> * removed obsolete, stay (unused) and hardcoded isofs x86 config
11:31 < CIA-21> from the livecd postprocessing code
11:31 < CIA-21> * minimal indention fixup on-the-way
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12:11 < sepp> moin :)
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12:14 < sepp> has blender still this "ohh you moron you compiled me on an 64bit cpu, i am very smart and can not read my own files now, so i just quit" feature? :P
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14:07 < rxr> sepp_: no idea
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14:12 [ Capey ] [ LMJ ] [ R4gnar0k] [ smarTUX]
14:12 [ CIA-21 ] [ misl] [ rxr ] [ Stelz ]
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14:13 < rxr> sepp_: do you give blender a try ?
14:17 < sepp_> sure, wanted to see the sculpting tool before (from cvs) and it told me that i have a 64 bit cpu (which i already knew) and just quit
14:17 < sepp_> lol
14:22 < sepp_> "64 bits compiles will give incorrectly saved .blend files. Do not use it. For testing purposes please remove this line from creator.c" ...
14:22 < CIA-21> rene * r22598 /trunk/architecture/ (5 files in 3 dirs):
14:22 < CIA-21> * implemented syslinux/isolinux CD boot loader support
14:22 < CIA-21> * implemented selection between grub and isolinux CD boot loader support
14:22 < sepp_> it could at least stop at scons
14:23 < rxr> sepp_: do they (blender folks) plan to address this major bug sometime soon ?
14:23 < rxr> I mean - I have to hunt for a 32bit cpu here, maybe I find a good old sparc station or try running blender on a 32bit embedded board or what ?
14:23 < sepp_> guess it is not very useful even if you remove the exit() - if all you get are incompatible files
14:24 * rxr glances at the UltraSARC, the G5 and the x86-64 MacBook ... :-)
14:24 < sepp_> hehe
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14:24 * rxr spotted some 32bit boards on the board ...
14:24 * rxr wonders if Blender starts up on a ARM, MIPS or SuperH board ...
14:24 < sepp> dont know if there is a plan to fix that
14:26 < rxr> guess enough users complain already
14:26 < rxr> as most number crunchers are 64bit these days
14:27 * rxr wonders when the OpenOffice folks have their code ready for 64bit ...
14:27 < sepp> as with ooo?
14:27 < rxr> quite a joke that it still is not 64bit safe ...
14:27 < rxr> OpenOffice.org
14:27 < rxr> blender should be easier to fix though, not that much ugly crufty code ...
14:30 < sepp> :)
14:31 < sepp> next year :P
14:34 < CIA-21> rene * r22599 /trunk/architecture/x86/boot/ (boot.in isolinux.cfg menu.lst):
14:34 < CIA-21> * finetuned whitespacing in the x86 GRUB and isolinux CD loader configuration
14:34 < CIA-21> * implementing defining the isolinux boot label default
14:46 < CIA-21> rene * r22600 /trunk/target/share/ (install/build.sh livecd/build.sh):
14:46 < CIA-21> * improved install and livecd image post-processing to wipe the isofs
14:46 < CIA-21> directory in the beginning, otherwise updated kernel, and updated or
14:46 < CIA-21> switched boot-loader accumulate
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16:49 < CIA-21> rene * r22601 /trunk/package/base/gcc/gcc.conf:
16:49 < CIA-21> * disabled C++ STL precompiled header generation during the gcc build,
16:49 < CIA-21> it's barely useful and just blows up the gcc binary package size
16:49 < CIA-21> unnecessarily
16:49 < CIA-21> rene * r22602 /trunk/package/base/gcc/ (gcc.desc i386-Os.patch no-install-libiberty.patch): * updated gcc (4.1.1 -> 4.1.2)
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16:53 < rxr> moin sparc-kly
16:56 < sparc-kly> hi rxr :)
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17:11 < CIA-21> rene * r22603 /trunk/package/mail/dovecot/dovecot.desc: * updated dovecot (1.0.rc21 -> 1.0.rc22)
17:11 < rxr> sparc-kly: how are you
17:11 < rxr> welcome back smarTUX
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17:58 < Demian> hi
18:04 < misl> hi folks
18:06 < Demian> hi misl
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18:11 < rxr> hi d-marc and Demian
18:11 < rxr> err hi d-marc and misl :-)
18:12 < d-marc> hi
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18:20 < CIA-21> susan * r22604 /trunk/package/base/inotify-tools/inotify-tools.desc: * updated inotify-tools (3.7 -> 3.8)
18:21 < CIA-21> rene * r22605 /trunk/package/graphic/imagemagick/imagemagick.desc: * updated imagemagick (6.3.2-4 -> 6.3.2-7)
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18:44 < LMJ> moin moin
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19:59 < rxr> moin moin LMJ
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20:17 < rxr> so - I'm off now - cu tomorrow
20:25 < d-marc> bye!
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