--- Log opened Fri Feb 09 00:00:56 2007 00:13 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p83.129.169.237.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:14 < apache-chaos> ok cool 00:14 < apache-chaos> they said it was udev upgrade or something 00:14 < apache-chaos> hds labels switch to sda 00:15 < apache-chaos> for drives 00:15 < apache-chaos> and if your config files dont match your boot loader and fstab kaputt 00:15 < apache-chaos> kernel panic 00:16 < apache-chaos> when you leave t2 to install, does it sop lots of times to ask you X, so that you have to baby sit it? 00:17 < apache-chaos> stop 00:18 < sepp_> once it started extracting packages it does not ask, only for reboot once it is done 00:27 -!- apache-chaos is now known as gak 00:28 -!- gak is now known as gakc 00:37 -!- gakc is now known as gak 01:10 < gak> including new kernel? 01:15 -!- gak [n=gschuett@4.38.41.141] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:30 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@kobz-590ca03e.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #t2 01:44 -!- mtr [n=Michael@kobz-590cae9a.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:44 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr 01:58 -!- idealm [n=ideal@CPE-203-45-99-98.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:59 -!- idealm [n=ideal@CPE-203-45-99-98.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #t2 02:10 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.134.76.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit ["leaving"] 02:46 -!- magic_user [n=gschuett@4.38.41.141] has joined #t2 02:46 < magic_user> hello 02:46 < magic_user> I created a /boot dir / and swap 02:46 < magic_user> am installing t2 02:47 < magic_user> and grub thinks root device is hda3 which is / not /boot 02:47 < magic_user> the idea is if the filesystem fills to be able to boot using small boot dir 02:47 < magic_user> does this make sense? 02:47 < magic_user> how can i make grub use hda1 the /boot dir as the boot device? 03:35 < magic_user> ? 03:38 < magic_user> will emerge-package pull a package from the internet? 03:55 -!- idealm [n=ideal@CPE-203-45-99-98.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:21 -!- idealm [n=ideal@CPE-203-45-99-98.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #t2 07:45 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 08:43 -!- Baldzius [n=kvirc@office.wapcom.lt] has joined #t2 08:43 < Baldzius> moin 09:21 < rxr> moin 09:21 < rxr> magic_user: Emerge will build from the source out of the internet 09:21 < rxr> magic_user: the last time I checked our grub stone module worked with a seperate /boot 09:22 < rxr> magic_user: maybe a regression? you can manually tweak the /boot/grub/menu.lst ... 09:22 < CIA-21> aldas * r22459 /trunk/package/develop/php/ (CVE-2006-6383.patch php.desc): 09:22 < CIA-21> * updated php (5.2.0 -> 5.2.1) 09:22 < CIA-21> * removed CVE-2006-6383.patch - obsolete 09:22 < CIA-21> * security update 09:59 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 10:07 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 10:22 < CIA-21> rene * r22460 /trunk/package/develop/libuninum/libuninum.desc: * updated libuninum (1.2 -> 2.1) 10:22 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p83.129.185.181.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 10:23 < sepp> moin :) 10:26 < rxr> moin moin sepp 10:27 < sepp> moin rxr :) 10:29 < CIA-21> rene * r22461 /trunk/package/textproc/msort/msort.desc: * updated msort (8.35 -> 8.37) 10:31 < CIA-21> rene * r22462 /trunk/package/develop/libuninum/libuninum.desc: * removed libuninum compile hack, apperas to be properly fixed upstream, now 11:03 < CIA-21> aldas * r22465 /trunk/package/database/phppgadmin/phppgadmin.desc: * updated phppgadmin (4.0.1 -> 4.1) 11:04 < CIA-21> rene * r22463 /trunk/package/network/lat/lat.desc: * updated lat (1.0.6 -> 1.2.1.1), updated Url tags and tweaked build Priority 11:17 < CIA-21> aldas * r22464 /trunk/package/mail/courier-authlib/courier-authlib.desc: * updated courier-authlib (0.59 -> 0.59.1) 11:25 -!- emte_ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 11:26 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:29 < CIA-21> rene * r22466 /trunk/package/gpe/gpe-calculator/gpe-calculator.desc: * changed gpe-calculator build priority (203.900 -> 209.900) and fixed it to honor the $prefix 11:31 < CIA-21> susan * r22467 /trunk/package/gpe/libgpelaunch/ (. libgpelaunch.cache libgpelaunch.desc): * added libgpelaunch (0.14) - GPE launch control library 11:32 < rxr> PHP 5.2.1 stopft Sicherheitslücken 11:36 < sepp> haha 11:36 < sepp> :) 11:42 < rxr> guess haha due to the overal insecurity of php ? 11:42 -!- emte_ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:46 < sepp> yup 11:46 -!- emte_ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 11:47 < sepp> sounds like 3 gazillion - 1 holes now 11:50 < rxr> heh 11:51 < rxr> Btw. Linux Magazine gave the Archivist Scan Box solution a test spin, including mentioning T2 :-) 11:51 < rxr> yesterday's issue page 90+91 11:54 < sepp> :) 11:59 < CIA-21> rene * r22468 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/install.sh: * also format the 2nd (unused) system partition during the archivista installation 12:01 < CIA-21> rene * r22469 /trunk/package/graphic/scribus/scribus.desc: 12:01 < CIA-21> * updated scribus Url and Text tags, including removal of commercial product 12:01 < CIA-21> names in favour of more textual description 12:38 < CIA-21> susan * r22471 /trunk/package/gpe/libschedule/ (. libschedule.cache libschedule.desc): * added libschedule (0.16) - Provides a lowlevel interface for alarm event scheduling 12:47 < CIA-21> susan * r22470 /trunk/package/gpe/libxsettings-client/ (. libxsettings-client.cache libxsettings-client.desc): * added libxsettings-client (0.17) - Common XSETTINGS client code 13:07 < rxr> so - lunch 13:07 < rxr> cu 13:09 < CIA-21> rene * r22472 /trunk/package/gpe/ (13 files in 11 dirs): 13:09 < CIA-21> * tweaked gpe Priority tags due failurs in the reference build 13:09 < CIA-21> * fixed libsoundgen to install it's headers and gpe-announce to install in $prefix 13:09 < CIA-21> * updated gpe .cache files when they had an ERROR mark or where missing 14:07 < rxr> re 14:17 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.151.210.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 14:25 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p83.129.185.181.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 14:32 -!- idealm [n=ideal@CPE-203-45-99-98.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:34 < rxr> :-( http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54227 14:53 -!- Enqlave [i=stelz@unaffiliated/stelz] has joined #t2 14:54 -!- Stelz [i=stelz@unaffiliated/stelz] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 14:54 -!- Enqlave is now known as Stelz 14:59 -!- Baldzius [n=kvirc@office.wapcom.lt] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:02 -!- Enqlave [i=stelz@unaffiliated/stelz] has joined #t2 15:02 -!- Stelz [i=stelz@unaffiliated/stelz] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 15:02 -!- Enqlave is now known as Stelz 15:04 < rxr> R4gnar0k: netpbm is really rather ugly, I knew from the API side already - and that is why I canned it in ExactImage - but the configure is the next ugly beast of it :-( 15:06 < CIA-21> rene * r22475 /trunk/package/graphic/netpbm/ (netpbm.conf netpbm.desc): 15:06 < CIA-21> * updated netpbm (10.33 -> 10.34), plus required config adaptions - 15:06 < CIA-21> appears to fix netpbm runtime on x86-64 15:10 < rxr> oh damn 15:11 < rxr> R4gnar0k: oh damn - this netpbm maintainer does not spin tarballs anymore, instead on has to grab from the new SVN - this would not be a problem - if this person would know how to use SVN !?!?!?!? - je just throws all into a stable sub-dir instead of doing tags ... 15:11 * rxr headshake ... 15:19 < CIA-21> rene * r22473 /trunk/package/graphic/magicpoint/magicpoint.desc: * updated magicpoint (1.11b -> 1.12a) 15:19 < CIA-21> rene * r22474 /trunk/package/multimedia/mjpegtools/ (hotfix_libquicktime.patch mjpegtools.desc): * updated mjpegtools (1.8.0 -> 1.9.0rc1) 15:39 -!- Netsplit calvino.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: LMJ, sepp_, emte_, valentin, zod, Capey, Stelz 15:39 -!- Netsplit calvino.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: CIA-8 15:39 -!- Netsplit over, joins: CIA-8 15:40 -!- Netsplit over, joins: sepp_, Capey, LMJ 15:40 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Stelz, zod, valentin 15:48 -!- emte_ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 16:00 -!- emte_ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 16:09 -!- emte_ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 16:15 [Users #t2] 16:15 [@ChanServ] [ Demian] [ magic_user] [ rxr ] [ valentin] 16:15 [ Capey ] [ emte_ ] [ mtr ] [ sepp_] [ zod ] 16:15 [ CIA-21 ] [ LMJ ] [ R4gnar0k ] [ Stelz] 16:15 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal] 16:30 < CIA-21> rene * r22476 /trunk/package/develop/fpc/fpc.desc: * updated fpc (2.0.0 -> 2.0.4) 16:38 < CIA-21> rene * r22477 /trunk/package/develop/fpc/fpc.conf: * fixed fpc to invoke make with the target all, as just make prints the usage 16:43 -!- Stelz [i=stelz@unaffiliated/stelz] has quit ["I wanna live my life like thunder!"] 16:45 < rxr> "Der deutsche Innenminister Schäuble hat jetzt anscheinend einen kompletten Realitätsverlust erlitten, denn Heise meldet mit Verweis auf ein taz-Interview: »Schäuble: Trojaner sollen auch private Tagebücher durchsuchen« -- damit meint Schäuble allerdings nicht Blogs sondern Tagebücher, die die Terroristen auf Ihrer Festplatte z.B. im Word-Format gespeichert haben. Und weil Terroristen wissen, dass das Gesetz das Eindringen in den "Kernbereichs privater Lebensführung" nicht erlaubt, würden sie das schamlos ausnutzen und deswegen müsste die Verfassung entsprechend abgeändert werden: »Verbrecher und Terroristen sind klug genug, so etwas auszunutzen. Die tarnen ihre Informationen dann zum Beispiel als Tagebucheintrag. So leicht dürfen wir es denen nicht machen.« so Schäuble." 16:45 < rxr> http://www.symlink.ch/articles/07/02/09/1244255.shtml 16:45 -!- Stelz [i=stelz@unaffiliated/stelz] has joined #t2 16:47 < CIA-21> pfister * r22478 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/clear-archive.sh: Delete documents and folders 16:54 < rxr> lol: "Für das Sommerloch ist es nun doch noch ein wenig zu früh! Es ist heute zu leicht geworden, Politiker zu werden! Statt einer 5-Prozent-Hürde wäre vielleicht ein Intelligenztest (oder vielleicht eher Realitätstest) angebracht :-( " 16:55 < rxr> http://www.symlink.ch/comments.pl?sid=07/02/09/1244255&cid=6 16:59 < rxr> http://www.taz.de/pt/2007/02/08/a0169.1/text 17:23 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.151.210.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 17:44 -!- emte_ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:45 -!- emte_ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 17:48 < CIA-21> pfister * r22479 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/.fluxbox/menu: Menu entry for removing documents or folders 18:16 < CIA-21> rene * r22480 /trunk/package/x11/xfe/ (. xfe.cache xfe.desc): * added xfe (0.98) - A file manager for the X Window System 18:51 -!- emte_ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:51 -!- emte__ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 18:55 [Users #t2] 18:55 [@ChanServ] [ Demian] [ magic_user] [ rxr ] [ zod] 18:55 [ Capey ] [ emte__] [ mtr ] [ Stelz ] 18:55 [ CIA-21 ] [ LMJ ] [ R4gnar0k ] [ valentin] 18:55 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal] 18:55 < rxr> hi emte__ 19:00 < CIA-21> rene * r22481 /trunk/package/x11/jwm/ (. jwm.cache jwm.desc): * added jwm (1.8) - Joe's Window Manager 19:01 < R4gnar0k> moin 19:02 < R4gnar0k> rxr: LOL ! 19:03 < R4gnar0k> hmm so does it make more sense to substitute pnmtopng with exactimage ? 19:07 < rxr> exactimage has a different calling convention :-( 19:07 < rxr> R4gnar0k: trunk:HEAD just work on x86-64, now 19:07 < rxr> at least it does on my MacBook 19:07 < rxr> trunk:HEAD netpbm that is ... 19:07 < R4gnar0k> ah ok 19:08 < R4gnar0k> I`ll try 19:08 < rxr> but exact-image is easy to use anyway 19:08 < rxr> just -i for input and -o for output 19:08 < rxr> thus econvert -i some-file -o some-other-file 19:09 < rxr> or --input or --output ... 19:09 -!- emte__ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 19:09 < rxr> you even can write out multiple times ... like this: 19:10 < rxr> econvert -i some-fat-photo.jpg -o i-like-jpeg2000-more.jp2 --scale .33 -o thumbnail-medium.jpg --scale .33 -o really-tiny.jpg 19:10 < R4gnar0k> oh lol 19:10 < rxr> where in that case the classed in the hirarchy (exact-image is C++) will fast scale the JPEG by just partial unpacking the DCT ... 19:10 < R4gnar0k> nice :) 19:11 < rxr> oh - and --rotate 90|180|270 as well as --flip and --flop are lossless on JPEG: 19:11 < rxr> http://www.exactcode.de/oss/exact-image/lossless-jpeg.html 19:12 < R4gnar0k> now how to intergate that in gallery2 ... lol 19:13 < rxr> at least it is integrated in the "pixgallery" I hacked up in my wordpress blog: 19:13 < rxr> http://rene.rebe.name/photos/ 19:19 -!- emte__ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 19:20 < rxr> tiny.jpg 19:32 -!- misl [n=chatzill@84-104-172-187.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 19:33 < misl> hi folks 19:34 < rxr> hi one 19:34 < rxr> moin misl, how do you do ? 19:34 < misl> hi rxr, I fine thanks :-) 19:34 < misl> how about you ? 19:35 < misl> How is the minix integration doing ? 19:36 < rxr> so done along the lines, some more important stuff on the current agenda 19:36 < rxr> minux3 has some implementation shortcummings anyway - I'm not sure it is too interesting in real world embedded applications due that 19:37 < rxr> but I'll definetly commit that before 7.0 as I want it as implementation example and Minix3 source is pretty compact anyway and thus quickly built 19:38 < misl> What shortcommings? They claim minix is especially usefull for embedded solutions. 19:38 -!- emte__ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:39 -!- emte__ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 19:41 < rxr> their virtual memory management is very limitted 19:41 < rxr> also there is no support for "anonymous mapping" such as SWAP 19:42 < rxr> also no suppot for partitions over 2 or 4 GB, and so on and so on 19:43 < rxr> both also effect embedded applications as with point 1 when one process allocates too much memory it is killed immediatly and with point 2 you can not have larger datasets (such as map data etc.) or user audio / video ... 19:43 < rxr> for a "completely revisited" OS this is a bit lame ... 19:43 < rxr> oh - _and_ Minix has no support for the FPU 19:43 < rxr> there was a couple of more stuff - yes, I read half of the Minix3 book recently :-) 19:44 * misl wonders what Tanenbaum would say :-) 19:44 < rxr> he says he "does not care about floating point computations" :-) 19:44 < rxr> of course all of this is patchable 19:45 < rxr> though some would result in binary incompatibility with the vanilla Minix3 used for lecturing then ... 19:45 < misl> Have you had contact with him ? 19:45 < rxr> yes, but not regarding this topic 19:45 < rxr> that was his response to the topic when it came up in the comp.os.minix newsgroup :-) 19:46 < misl> hehe 19:47 < misl> So there is not much X-mas present left when undoing the wrappings ;-) 19:47 < rxr> well - I stil find it quite cool 19:47 < rxr> I even think about such a hacked-up minix would be pretty cool 19:47 < rxr> that where just the points that I found so far while going into the details ... :-) 19:51 < rxr> so - of for lunch and home-work 19:51 < rxr> cu then 19:56 < Stelz> cu rxr 20:12 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p83.129.181.17.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 20:12 < sepp> hello :) 20:22 < Demian> hi sepp 20:22 < sepp> hi Demian :) 21:40 < R4gnar0k> hmmm why in mine not built statically? o_o 22:08 < CIA-21> ragnar * r22482 /trunk/package/archiver/mine/mine.desc: * mine: it's perfectly possible to build it with dietlibc :) 22:29 -!- emte__ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:31 -!- emte__ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 22:44 -!- d-marc [n=kvirc@HSI-KBW-091-089-002-216.hsi2.kabelbw.de] has joined #t2 22:50 -!- emte__ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:52 -!- emte__ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 22:59 -!- misl [n=chatzill@84-104-172-187.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.9/2006120612]"] 23:33 -!- d-marc [n=kvirc@HSI-KBW-091-089-002-216.hsi2.kabelbw.de] has quit ["KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/"] --- Log closed Sat Feb 10 00:00:58 2007