--- Log opened Thu Dec 21 00:00:43 2006 00:21 -!- Demian [n=demian@201.206.32.18] has joined #t2 00:28 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.136.8.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 00:49 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.139.75.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:54 -!- sepp_ is now known as sepp 01:09 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@kobz-590cb6a3.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #t2 01:17 -!- mtr [n=Michael@kobz-590cb5f4.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 01:17 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr 02:14 -!- idealm [n=ideal@218.82.60.33] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 02:33 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has joined #t2 02:37 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.145.249.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 02:55 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.136.8.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:05 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:07 -!- sepp_ is now known as sepp 04:57 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has joined #t2 05:08 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.145.249.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit ["leaving"] 05:38 -!- ojh [n=omer@c-24-21-49-204.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit ["Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/"] 06:23 -!- Demian__ [n=demian@201.206.32.18] has joined #t2 06:25 -!- Demian [n=demian@201.206.32.18] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:31 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:33 -!- Stelz [i=stelz@80.240.210.253] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 09:44 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has joined #t2 09:45 < CIA-9> rene * r21382 /trunk/package/office/gnucash/gnucash.desc: * updated gnucash (2.0.2 -> 2.0.3) 09:47 < CIA-9> rene * r21383 /trunk/package/graphic/libsdl_gfx/libsdl_gfx.desc: * updated libsdl_gfx (2.0.13 -> 2.0.14) 09:55 < CIA-9> susan * r21384 /trunk/package/gnome2/seahorse/seahorse.desc: * updated seahorse (0.9.8 -> 0.9.9) 09:58 -!- Stelz [i=stelz@80.240.210.253] has joined #t2 10:00 < CIA-9> rene * r21385 /trunk/package/base/linux24/linux24.desc: * updated linux24 (2.4.33.4 -> 2.4.33.6) 10:09 < rxr> re 10:44 < Stelz> rehi rxr 10:50 < rxr> Xen 3.0.4 released 10:56 < rxr> valentin: c't to Sony cell performance: "Die Cell-Performance unter Linux (siehe S. 166) hat uns erst mal nicht gerade vom Hocker gehauen, der Hauptprozessor PowerPC ist trotz seiner 3,2 GHz ziemlich schlapp (SPECint2000-Niveau eines Athlon mit 1,33 GHz)" 10:56 < rxr> ^- http://www.heise.de/ct/06/26/026/ 10:57 < rxr> and it goes further: "Mit ihrem kleinen lokalen Speicher von 256 KByte und ohne den ganzen ?berbau-Schnickschnack moderner Prozessoren (eine SPE hat nur einen Thread und wird flat, also quasi im Real-Mode adressiert) f?hlen sich die SPEs netterweise so an wie einst ein 8086-PC unter DOS, also ?back to the roots?, nun aber mit 128 Registern und leistungsf?higem SIMD auf SSE2-Niveau." 11:04 < CIA-9> rene * r21386 /trunk/package/security/libprelude/libprelude.desc: * updated libprelude (0.9.11 -> 0.9.12) 11:04 < CIA-9> rene * r21387 /trunk/package/security/libpreludedb/libpreludedb.desc: * updated libpreludedb (0.9.10 -> 0.9.11) 11:05 < CIA-9> rene * r21388 /trunk/package/mail/exim/exim.desc: * updated exim (4.63 -> 4.64) 11:06 < CIA-9> rene * r21389 /trunk/package/develop/intltool/intltool.desc: * updated intltool (0.35.0 -> 0.35.1) 11:07 -!- d-marc [n=d-marc@HSI-KBW-091-089-000-152.hsi2.kabelbw.de] has joined #t2 11:07 < CIA-9> rene * r21390 /trunk/package/editors/nano/nano.desc: * updated nano (2.0.1 -> 2.0.2) 11:07 < rxr> hi d-marc 11:08 < d-marc> hello 11:08 < d-marc> perfect that you are here ;) 11:08 < rxr> you can search for packages with ./scripts/Find-Pkg 11:08 < d-marc> I have just booted my t2 installation to fix it up before I go on holiday ;) 11:08 < d-marc> hmm 11:09 < CIA-9> rene * r21391 /trunk/package/base/lvm2/lvm2.desc: * updated lvm2 (2.02.16 -> 2.02.17) 11:09 < d-marc> how do I change the konsole from 40 lines height to 80 line height? 11:09 < d-marc> console I mean 11:09 < d-marc> not under X11 11:09 < rxr> the linux text console ? 11:09 < d-marc> yes 11:09 < rxr> depends on whether you want good old text mode or a graphical framebuffer 11:10 < rxr> and whether you want an accellerated framebuffer or the vesa thing 11:10 < rxr> and idea what you used before ? 11:10 < d-marc> all of them 11:10 < d-marc> It doesnt matter as long as there is more space on the screen 11:10 < rxr> heh 11:10 < d-marc> where would I fix it? 11:10 < rxr> then I would recomment just to pass vga=xyz tot he kernel 11:10 < d-marc> grub? 11:10 < rxr> I hope our default kernel has the vesa driver built in ... 11:11 < rxr> yes - in the grub or lilo config 11:11 < rxr> the number is a bit hard to come up with it is the VESA mode number plus 0x100 or so ... 11:11 < d-marc> ok, checking 11:12 < rxr> CONFIG_FB_VESA=y 11:12 < rxr> CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE=y 11:12 < d-marc> which config file was it? Last time I changes grup is more than a year ago 11:12 < rxr> ok - that is our default 6.0 x86 kernel config 11:12 < rxr> vga=whatever should work 11:12 < rxr> /boot/grub/menu.lst 11:13 < d-marc> ok 11:15 < d-marc> # VESA framebuffer console @ 1024x768x64k 11:15 < d-marc> vga = 791 11:15 < d-marc> # Normal VGA console 11:15 < d-marc> # vga = normal 11:15 < d-marc> # VESA framebuffer console @ 1024x768x64k 11:15 < d-marc> # vga=791 11:15 < d-marc> # VESA framebuffer console @ 1024x768x32k 11:15 < d-marc> # vga=790 11:15 < d-marc> # VESA framebuffer console @ 1024x768x256 11:15 < d-marc> # vga=773 11:16 < d-marc> # VESA framebuffer console @ 800x600x64k 11:16 < d-marc> # vga=788 11:16 < d-marc> # VESA framebuffer console @ 800x600x32k 11:16 < d-marc> # vga=787 11:16 < d-marc> # VESA framebuffer console @ 800x600x256 11:16 < d-marc> # vga=771 11:16 < d-marc> # VESA framebuffer console @ 640x480x64k 11:16 < d-marc> # vga=785 11:16 < d-marc> # VESA framebuffer console @ 640x480x32k 11:16 < d-marc> # vga=784 11:16 < d-marc> # VESA framebuffer console @ 640x480x256 11:16 < d-marc> # vga=769 11:16 < d-marc> --- 11:20 < d-marc> rebooting 11:20 -!- d-marc [n=d-marc@HSI-KBW-091-089-000-152.hsi2.kabelbw.de] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12"] 11:20 < rxr> heh - now that gives cool google hits .-) 11:24 -!- d-marc [n=d-marc@HSI-KBW-091-089-000-152.hsi2.kabelbw.de] has joined #t2 11:24 < d-marc> alright, that worked :) 11:25 < d-marc> what was the fix for the error message about ULIMIT when I log in on the console? 11:27 < rxr> vi /etc/login.defs 11:27 < rxr> and remove the ULIMIT line 11:27 < rxr> it has no effect for PAM based systems 11:28 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/releases/6.0.html 11:28 < rxr> ^- also listed here 11:30 < d-marc> excellent 11:31 < d-marc> now, what do I do about kmix not recognising the sound card? 11:31 < d-marc> I rmemeber there was also a easy fix for it 11:38 < rxr> re 11:38 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has quit [Connection timed out] 11:38 < rxr> most probably your user is not in the audio group 11:38 < rxr> add it and relogin 11:38 < rxr> so - my new MacBook arrived 11:38 < rxr> hopefully with Core 2 Duo 11:38 < d-marc> right 11:42 -!- d-marc [n=d-marc@HSI-KBW-091-089-000-152.hsi2.kabelbw.de] has left #t2 [] 11:44 -!- d-marc [n=d-marc@HSI-KBW-091-089-000-152.hsi2.kabelbw.de] has joined #t2 11:44 < d-marc> audio:x:17:d-marc <- is this correct? it still cant open /dev/dsp 11:45 < rxr> hm 11:45 < rxr> /dev/dsp is old-style anyway 11:45 < rxr> anyone would want to use ALSA these days 11:45 < rxr> those are in /dev/snd/* ... 11:46 < rxr> if you need /dev/dsp you can load the OSS emulation "modprobe snd-pcm-oss" or so 11:46 < d-marc> I dont know why kde wants /dev/dsp 11:46 < rxr> what wants this device? kmix ? 11:46 < rxr> on startup ? 11:46 < rxr> this arts stuff should be able to use ALSA 11:46 < rxr> do you have /dev/snd/* ? 11:47 < d-marc> when I set the kde sound system to alsa it resets it wih noe error message 11:48 < d-marc> yes I have some files under /dev/snd 11:48 < d-marc> snd_* are loaded too 11:49 < rxr> snd_ ar ethe normal ALSA modules 11:49 < rxr> the ones with _oss_ in the name are OSS emulation 11:49 < d-marc> yes I know I used alsa before 11:49 < rxr> oss_mixer and oss_dsp (or the other way round) 11:49 < rxr> strange that arts in kde complains about those OSS files 11:50 < rxr> maybe go into the kontrol center and take a look if you can explicitly request oss or alsa for arts 11:50 < d-marc> let me check what the exact error message is on kde startup 11:50 -!- d-marc [n=d-marc@HSI-KBW-091-089-000-152.hsi2.kabelbw.de] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12"] 11:52 -!- d-marc [n=d-marc@HSI-KBW-091-089-000-152.hsi2.kabelbw.de] has joined #t2 11:52 < d-marc> there is no error message, hmm 11:52 < d-marc> kmix is just dead 11:52 < d-marc> this is interesting 11:52 < d-marc> I cant use alsamixer either 11:53 < d-marc> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device 12:02 < rxr> hm 12:03 < d-marc> where is the scripts subdir for emerge-pkg? 12:04 < rxr> your installation might contain a source tree at /usr/src/t2-src 12:04 < rxr> but even if that was installed it is required for updates anyway that you checkout the stable tree 12:04 < rxr> svn co https://svn.exactcode.de/t2/branches/6.0 t2-6.0 12:05 < rxr> wherever you like 12:05 < d-marc> are all packages available as binaries too for x86? or is the recommended way really to use emerge-pkg? 12:05 < rxr> we do not have single binay "pools" online 12:05 < rxr> however that will change early in 2007 12:06 < rxr> we then will provide per-architecture binary pools for comfortable updating 12:06 < rxr> including end-user production system updates, such as security ones 12:06 < d-marc> exellent 12:06 < rxr> right now you either need to Emerge-Pkg or download a new CD release, the CD installer has an update "mode" 12:06 < rxr> "The Blackfin MMU does not provide address translation thus it does not support virtual memory. This is why Blackfin currently does not support operating systems requiring virtual memory such as WinCE, QNX, or full Linux." 12:06 < rxr> ^- :-( 12:07 < d-marc> ok, seems I need to co 12:10 < d-marc> any more ideas about alsa? 12:12 < rxr> not really :-( to be honest I seldom use the kde sound functionality 12:12 < rxr> (via arts) more like kaffeine here and amarok there ... 12:12 < rxr> but not the bells of the kde sound notification stuff ... 12:13 -!- idealm [n=ideal@218.82.60.33] has joined #t2 12:13 < d-marc> the bells are not the problem 12:13 < d-marc> I get no sound at all 12:14 < d-marc> ok, got the t2 source 12:15 < d-marc> what did I actually ceck out? 12:16 < d-marc> damn 12:16 < d-marc> ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg amarok 12:16 < d-marc> ERROR: No configuration 'default' found! 12:16 < d-marc> what am I doint wrong again? 12:18 < rxr> nothing 12:18 < d-marc> hehe 12:18 < rxr> just that you need to configure t2 ;-) 12:18 < d-marc> what now? 12:18 < rxr> either scripts/Config 12:18 < d-marc> aha! 12:18 < rxr> or better wait a secpond 12:18 < rxr> second 12:18 < rxr> do this: 12:18 < rxr> cp -arv /etc/SDE-CONFIG t2-6.0/config/default 12:18 < rxr> that is you need a mkdir config before ... 12:19 < rxr> I guess you get the idea 12:19 < rxr> this copies the config the CD was built with as the one to be used 12:19 < rxr> that is usually preferable so that the basic config matches with the one you already installed via the bianry CD 12:19 < rxr> -- typos :-) 12:21 < rxr> you can then still run scripts/Config to alter individual settings 12:22 < CIA-9> rene * r21392 /trunk/package/multimedia/libcdio/libcdio.desc: * updated libcdio (0.77 -> 0.78.2) 12:25 < d-marc> I have only /etc/SDE-CONFIG 12:27 < rxr> yesh - that is the one I talked about - copy that dir into your fresh t2-60 checkout into the config subdir with the nsame default 12:27 < rxr> so that you have config/default/{config,packages,...} 12:27 < d-marc> ah its the other way around 12:27 < d-marc> default/config 12:28 < d-marc> hmm 12:29 < d-marc> I have /usr/src/t2.6.0/default/config now is that correct? 12:30 < rxr> heh 12:30 < rxr> nope :-( 12:30 < rxr> /usr/src/t2.6.0/config/default/config 12:30 < d-marc> ok 12:30 < rxr> all the configs are stored in the config subdir 12:30 < rxr> you can have many 12:30 < d-marc> I didnt excpect that ;) 12:30 < rxr> e.g. one for your host system 12:30 < rxr> and then ones for your cross build targets 12:30 < rxr> most scripts take the config to use with a -cfg parameter 12:30 < rxr> like -cfg cross-ppc 12:31 < rxr> or however you wanna name them 12:31 < rxr> so you can Config and Build-Target them individually 12:31 < d-marc> ok it works now 12:32 < d-marc> ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg amarok 12:32 < d-marc> this installs xmms as well? 12:32 -!- idealm [n=ideal@218.82.60.33] has quit [Connection timed out] 12:33 < d-marc> grep: config/default/packages: No such file or directory 12:33 < d-marc> what does this mean? 12:33 < rxr> it can be that it is optinal and e.g. enables xmms plugin support in amarok 12:33 < d-marc> ok 12:33 < rxr> d-marc: normally that package file should be in /etc/SDE-Config 12:33 < rxr> but do not bother copying it 12:33 < d-marc> copy as well? 12:33 < d-marc> ok? 12:34 < rxr> the important thing is the config 12:34 < rxr> (file) 12:34 < rxr> just run ./scripts/Config now 12:34 < d-marc> ok 12:34 < rxr> it will generate all the other intermediate files 12:34 < rxr> e.g. the static packages list 12:34 < d-marc> running 12:35 < d-marc> uuh a dialog 12:35 < d-marc> what should I select? 12:35 < rxr> if you do not like the build package list output by Emerge-Pkg you can run it with -deps=none and cut'n paste the list of packages without the deps you do not need as command line opts ... 12:35 < rxr> that Config should just lsit what was already in your config 12:35 < rxr> e.g. desktop and x86 I think? 12:35 < rxr> you can just exit that Config if the selections are ok ... 12:35 < d-marc> seems ok to me 12:36 < d-marc> emerging xmms seems to work now 12:36 < d-marc> not that I need it ;) 12:37 < d-marc> is there an easier way to get a lot of packages like meta-packages or something? 12:37 < d-marc> so I dont have to istall every package one by one? 12:39 < rxr> you can sepcify many packages on the command line 12:39 < rxr> there is no other grouping 12:39 < rxr> aside emerging the whole kde repository or so (Emerge-Pkg -repository kde 12:39 < rxr> ) 12:39 < rxr> but just Emrege-Pkg openexr exact-image pl-framework # works as well 12:45 < d-marc> its running quite well now 12:45 < d-marc> respect 12:46 < d-marc> is there anything I have to care about wrt dependencies and upgrading packages? 12:48 < rxr> well - mostly that too many dependeies are output 12:49 < rxr> that is if you Emerge something and you see a whole lot of stuff scrolling by that you do not need better rerun Emerge with -deps=none and just the packages specified that you really think the package needs 12:49 < rxr> this is because our build-time dependency generates sometimes outputs stuff that is not really used 12:49 < rxr> in the past we had problems with python modules - though that is worked out now 12:49 < d-marc> are dead deps removed automatically? 12:49 < rxr> remaining are stray deps like a package run emacs in configure (just for the fun of it) or dpkg or rpm just for a test ... 12:50 < rxr> the python mess we had in the past is fixed 12:50 < d-marc> hehe 12:50 -!- idealm [n=ideal@218.82.60.33] has joined #t2 12:50 < rxr> the remaining stay dependencies in the auto generation will be resolved as well 12:50 < rxr> also in the future - next year - the dependencies will get build-time or pure run-time marks 12:50 < rxr> so the installer and Emerge can do more inteligent handling of those 12:52 < d-marc> cool 12:52 < d-marc> I suppose it is not harmful when I emerge stuff concurrently on several consoles ? 12:54 < rxr> not when you update packages in between 12:54 < rxr> for the joe user that works 12:55 < rxr> however when you devel with T2 and modify packages the Config would be regenerated due to the updates 12:55 < rxr> when two Configs run in parallel there is no locking yet and they can mess up the text config files 12:55 < d-marc> ok 12:55 < rxr> this will also be addressed soon because it annoys me like h*ll ... 12:55 < d-marc> hehe 12:56 < d-marc> does Juk work for you? 12:56 < d-marc> it crashes here 12:56 < d-marc> I was looking for a media player to see if I can play sound 12:56 < rxr> hm - guess I never tried junk 12:56 < rxr> i use amarok and audacity ... 12:57 < rxr> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Harvard_Architecture_Single-Chip_Computer 12:57 < rxr> ^- very intesreting read 13:00 < d-marc> Is there a package for the win32 codecs that some media players can use? 13:12 < d-marc> checking arts ... New version (1.5.4 -> 1.5.5). Added. 13:13 < d-marc> does this mean I am getting an arts update? 13:24 < d-marc> == 12/21/06 14:24:48 =[9]=> Aborted building package cdparanoia. 13:30 < d-marc> Is openoffice as a binary available? I am not sure I want to compile it here ... 13:36 -!- Stelz [i=stelz@80.240.210.253] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 13:54 < d-marc> too bad 13:54 < d-marc> == 14:50:18 =[9]=> Building kde/kaffeine [0.8.1 6.0-stable]. 13:54 < d-marc> -> Compiler Cache enabled: 0.00% cache hits so far. 13:54 < d-marc> -> Reading package configuration from package directory. 13:54 < d-marc> -> Preparing build in src.kaffeine.default.20061221.145016.15052.hermes 13:54 < d-marc> -> Ignoring update mode since package isn't installed already. 13:54 < d-marc> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/9-kaffeine.out 13:54 < d-marc> *> Corrected ./admin/ltmain.sh 13:54 < d-marc> -> Compiler Cache Hits while pkg build: 58.59% (58 hits, 41 misses) 13:54 < d-marc> !> if /bin/sh ../../../libtool --silent --tag=CXX --mode=compile g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../.. -I../../../ .. 13:54 < d-marc> !> if /bin/sh ../../../libtool --silent --tag=CXX --mode=compile g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../.. -I../../../ .. 13:54 < d-marc> !> /bin/sh ../../../libtool --silent --tag=CXX --mode=link g++ -Wno-long-long -Wundef -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_S .. 13:54 < d-marc> !> g++: __LIBGL_PATH__/libGL.so: No such file or directory 13:54 < d-marc> !> Due to previous errors, no 9-kaffeine.log file! 13:54 < d-marc> !> (Try enabling xtrace in the config to track an error inside the build system.) 13:54 < d-marc> -> $root/var/adm/logs/9-kaffeine.out -> 9-kaffeine.err 13:54 < d-marc> == 12/21/06 14:52:40 =[9]=> Aborted building package kaffeine. 13:54 < d-marc> --- 13:58 < rxr> re 13:58 < rxr> sorry - forgot to tell I was off to lunch ... 13:58 < d-marc> np 13:58 < d-marc> I have to get packed anyways 13:58 < rxr> hm - strange it misses libGL 13:59 < d-marc> kdelibs too 14:00 < rxr> we have those hbinary codesc in a package named w32codecs or so 14:01 < d-marc> wow, thats great 14:01 < rxr> t2-6.0# ./scripts/Find-Pkg w32 14:01 < rxr> Searching for matching package names ... 14:01 < rxr> multimedia/w32codec 14:01 < d-marc> excellent 14:01 < rxr> our openoffice is built from source - it takes 7h on a big server machine ... 14:01 < d-marc> hmm, now how do I get the gl headers? 14:01 < rxr> you might like to install their binary one from the website manually 14:01 < rxr> the desktop CD should have them 14:01 < d-marc> ah wait 14:01 < rxr> they are part of mesa and/or xorg-server 14:02 < d-marc> I have downloaded 2 t2 cds 14:02 < rxr> mesa I tzhink 14:05 < d-marc> ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg mesa wont work even though Find-Pkg finds such a package 14:09 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@kobz-590cb221.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #t2 14:13 < rxr> d-marc: most probably mesa was up-to-date 14:13 < rxr> d-marc: Emerge-Pkg -force mesa :-) 14:14 < rxr> or Emerge-Pkg -debug mesa # if you want to see the reason it was not considered for build 14:14 < rxr> hi mtr_ 14:16 < CIA-9> rene * r21393 /trunk/package/www/firefox/firefox.desc: * updated firefox (2.0 -> 2.0.0.1) 14:16 < rxr> dah - damned - again without checksum ... 14:16 < rxr> grml 14:17 < CIA-9> rene * r21394 /trunk/package/www/firefox/firefox.desc: * missing firefox checksum ... 14:25 -!- mtr [n=Michael@kobz-590cb6a3.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 14:25 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr 14:26 < CIA-9> rene * r21395 /trunk/package/www/seamonkey/seamonkey.desc: * updated seamonkey (1.0.6 -> 1.0.7) 14:30 < d-marc> rxr: is it possible to build firefox without gtk? 14:31 < rxr> oehm I dont't think so 14:31 < rxr> why do you ask ? 14:31 < rxr> what would you build firefox with instead ? 14:33 < d-marc> I dont know, just wondering if its possible 14:34 < rxr> the Qt port never was finished 14:35 < d-marc> maybe they made a simple toolkit thenselves 14:35 < d-marc> how about openoffice? that doesnt look like gtk 14:43 -!- Stelz [i=stelz@80.240.210.253] has joined #t2 14:48 < rxr> firefox has some ugly and slow toolkit abstraction 14:48 < rxr> but for linux only Gtk works I think 14:48 < rxr> OOo uses some own old stuff developed at Star Division Hamburg time 14:49 < rxr> but most ditributions use pixmap theming for that so OOo looks like Qt or Gtk 14:50 < d-marc> has anyone yet had the idea to make a development IDE with the OOO toolkit or framework? 14:53 < d-marc> a good IDE that works on many platforms is not existing yet 15:05 < d-marc> rxr: I have an external usb cdwriter. what do I have to do to get it recognised? 15:09 < d-marc> never mind, I think its broken 15:09 < d-marc> the lights dont come on 15:10 < d-marc> rxr: when do you think the pools are ready for testing? 15:31 < rxr> ooo codebase sucks majorly 15:31 < rxr> I doubt you wanna reuse it ... 15:31 < rxr> is Eclipse that bad ? 15:34 < d-marc> unbearable 15:39 < rxr> well - reusing OOo a replacement would suck at least equally 15:39 < rxr> the code base is that hopeless that even after 2 years of hacking or so they are not able to ship working 64bit binaries of OOo ... 15:40 < rxr> I think that says most ... 15:41 -!- CIA-8 [i=cia@cia.navi.cx] has quit [] 15:41 -!- CIA-9 [i=cia@cia.navi.cx] has quit [] 15:43 -!- CIA-9 [i=cia@cia.navi.cx] has joined #t2 15:43 -!- CIA-8 [i=cia@cia.navi.cx] has joined #gsmp 15:49 < d-marc> kdelibs really takes a long time to compile 15:49 < d-marc> I have to leave in about 40 minutes 15:51 < CIA-9> rene * r21397 /branches/6.0/package/filesystem/parted/parted.desc: 15:51 < CIA-9> * merged r20849 and r21133 from trunk: updated parted (1.7.1 -> 1.8.0 -> 1.8.1), 15:51 < CIA-9> among others fixes segfault on EFI GPT 15:54 < CIA-9> rene * r21398 /trunk/package/base/smartmontools/smartmontools.desc: * updated smartmontools (5.36 -> 5.37) 15:54 < rxr> yeah - kdelibs are half of KDE :-) 15:54 < d-marc> it still fails 15:55 < d-marc> ------ 15:55 < d-marc> !> libtool: link: warning: library `/usr/X11R7/lib/libGL.la' was moved. 15:55 < d-marc> !> ../../libtool: line 2926: cd: __LIBGL_PATH__: No such file or directory 15:55 < d-marc> !> libtool: link: warning: cannot determine absolute directory name of `__LIBGL_PATH__' 15:55 < d-marc> !> grep: __LIBGL_PATH__/libGL.la: No such file or directory 15:55 < d-marc> !> /bin/sed: can't read __LIBGL_PATH__/libGL.la: No such file or directory 15:55 < d-marc> !> libtool: link: `__LIBGL_PATH__/libGL.la' is not a valid libtool archive 15:55 < d-marc> !> Due to previous errors, no 9-kdelibs.log file! 15:55 < d-marc> !> (Try enabling xtrace in the config to track an error inside the build system.) 15:55 < d-marc> -> $root/var/adm/logs/9-kdelibs.out -> 9-kdelibs.err 15:55 < d-marc> == 12/21/06 16:54:06 =[9]=> Aborted building package kdelibs. 15:55 < d-marc> ------- 15:55 < CIA-9> rene * r21399 /trunk/package/gnome2/evolution/evolution.desc: * updated evolution (2.9.3 -> 2.9.4) 15:55 < rxr> hm - after you rebuild mesa ? 15:55 < d-marc> yes 15:55 < CIA-9> rene * r21400 /trunk/package/gnome2/evolution-data-server/evolution-data-server.desc: * updated evolution-data-server (1.9.3 -> 1.9.4) 15:55 < rxr> strange 15:56 < d-marc> what now? 15:58 < rxr> can you upload the kdelibs log file? 15:58 < rxr> I would like to take a deeper look sometime later 15:58 < d-marc> sure 15:59 < rxr> the log is in /var/adm/logs/9-kdelibs.err 15:59 < rxr> in /var/adm all T2 package management stuff is stored in plain text files 15:59 < rxr> file lists, checksums, etc 15:59 < d-marc> where do you want to have it? 16:00 < rxr> do you have some http server somewhere ? 16:00 < rxr> or paste it into soem web paste server 16:00 < d-marc> let me see 16:00 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 6.0.2 Released! | trunk heading for 7.0 | The T2 Open System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | http://bugs.t2-project.org | http://www.rafb.net/paste/ 16:00 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Thu Dec 7 14:05:35 2006] 16:00 < rxr> http://www.rafb.net/paste/ 16:01 < CIA-9> rene * r21401 /trunk/package/multimedia/lives/lives.desc: * updated lives (0.9.5 -> 0.9.8.2) 16:01 < d-marc> good idea 16:05 < d-marc> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/v2Onxt35.html 16:07 < rxr> hm - libtool uglities ... 16:07 < rxr> what a fun 16:10 < d-marc> hehe 16:10 < d-marc> I need to take off in a a feww minutes 16:11 < d-marc> thanks for your help! 16:11 < d-marc> though I think I will have to postpone finishing my t2 install to the next year 16:11 < d-marc> but one day... 16:11 -!- Demian [n=demian@201.206.32.18] has joined #t2 16:17 < d-marc> bye! 16:17 -!- d-marc [n=d-marc@HSI-KBW-091-089-000-152.hsi2.kabelbw.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:24 -!- Demian__ [n=demian@201.206.32.18] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:27 [Users #t2] 16:27 [@ChanServ] [ Capey] [ Demian] [ mtr] [ Stelz ] [ valentin] 16:27 [ _Ragnar_] [ CIA-9] [ idealm] [ rxr] [ tigger^] 16:27 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 11 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 10 normal] 16:43 -!- idealm [n=ideal@218.82.60.33] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:18 < rxr> x864-64 pyton built in 2m and some seconds 17:19 < rxr> I start to like the Core 2 Duo (C2D) MacBook ... 17:36 < CIA-9> rene * r21402 /trunk/package/e16/e16keyedit/e16keyedit.desc: * updated e16keyedit (0.4 -> 0.5) 17:51 < CIA-9> rene * r21403 /trunk/package/compat/libstdc++-v3-32/libstdc++-v3-32.desc: * limitted libstdc++-v2-32 to a known set of 64bit architectures 17:52 < rxr> ^- first commit from MacBook v2 ... :-) 18:19 < Demian> how can i clear the dns cache resolution? 18:26 < tigger^> That depends on where it is being cached, the usual answer is that you can't 18:59 < Demian> nscd -i hosts 18:59 < Demian> it works as expected. thanks. 19:15 -!- Stelz [i=stelz@80.240.210.253] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:19 -!- Stelz [i=stelz@80.240.210.253] has joined #t2 20:02 -!- misl [n=chatzill@84-104-172-187.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 20:03 < misl> hi folks 20:06 < Stelz> hi 20:12 < misl> hi Stelz 20:14 -!- ChanServ [ChanServ@services.] has quit [Shutting Down] 20:15 -!- ChanServ [ChanServ@services.] has joined #t2 20:15 -!- ServerMode/#t2 [+o ChanServ] by irc.freenode.net 22:28 -!- Stelz [i=stelz@80.240.210.253] has quit ["There is intelligent life out there..."] 22:30 -!- Stelz [i=stelz@80.240.210.253] has joined #t2 22:35 -!- misl [n=chatzill@84-104-172-187.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.9/2006120612]"] --- Log closed Fri Dec 22 00:00:43 2006