T2 IRC Log: 2006-12-17
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--- Log opened Sun Dec 17 00:00:40 2006
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08:22 < rxr> re
08:22 < rxr> moin all
08:24 < _Ragnar_> moin
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08:45 < rxr> _Ragnar_: I guess the areca kernel patch can be removed now that the driver is in the .19 kernel ?
08:45 < _Ragnar_> yea
08:45 < rxr> do you wanna commit ?
08:46 < _Ragnar_> hmmm
08:46 < _Ragnar_> ok
08:47 < _Ragnar_> remind me to add the userspace tools tho
08:50 < _Ragnar_> hmm no commit msg?
08:50 < rxr> CIA left ...
08:50 < _Ragnar_> oh
08:50 < rxr> 08:39 -!- CIA-9 [i=cia@cia.navi.cx] has quit []
08:50 < _Ragnar_> btw are you gonna be at ccc?
08:51 < rxr> depends how much proof reading I have to do on susan's diploa thesis :-(
08:52 < _Ragnar_> ah ok o_O
08:52 < rxr> maybe drop me a note if you make it there and I come around the block :-)
08:52 < _Ragnar_> do you live in berlin?
08:52 < _Ragnar_> lol ok
08:52 < rxr> yep, berlin near potzdamer platz
08:52 < _Ragnar_> ah kewl
08:53 < _Ragnar_> =)
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09:03 < misl> hi folks
09:03 < rxr> hi misl
09:03 < _Ragnar_> hi misl
09:03 < misl> hi rxr, _Ragnar_
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09:39 < rxr> heh - wanna search for the iPod: http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/station/crew-14/hires/iss014e08795.jpg
09:40 < rxr> http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/shuttle/sts-116/hires/s116e05405.jpg
09:48 < _Ragnar_> I'm off to bed
09:48 < _Ragnar_> nini folks
09:48 < rxr> n8 _Ragnar_
09:49 < _Ragnar_> have a nice day rene =)
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10:25 < rxr> _Ragnar_: http://bugs.t2-project.org/ticket/135
10:26 < Stelz> rehi all
10:26 < Stelz> moin rxr
10:26 < Stelz> any news with minix? :-)
10:26 < Stelz> i just wanna start an openbsd integration :D
10:27 < Stelz> asap
10:27 < rxr> heh
10:27 < rxr> maybe then just start :-) do not wait for me - I'm sooo busy
10:28 < Stelz> seems to be it's difficult for me without any templates.. but i'll try :)
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12:00 < tri> hi
12:00 < tri> can anybody build the kde-live-cd ? i cann't
12:01 < Stelz> hi tri
12:01 < rxr> hi tri
12:01 < rxr> tri: the kde-live-cd demo was just started to popular request
12:01 < rxr> it is not yet final
12:01 < rxr> beside that the 2.6.19 kernel update broke building some third party kernel modules
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12:01 < rxr> tri: if you want a pleasant build experience better build the branches/6.0 stable series
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15:06 < rxr> re
15:08 < Stelz> rehi rxr
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17:17 < tri> can i chroot into a new build to install the cisco vpn client before building the iso ?
17:20 < misl> tri: you can add a binary package for cisco vpn client
17:21 < misl> otherwise you have do that manual build every time you rebuild your target
17:21 < misl> adding that package makes it automatic
17:24 < tri> how do i add a binary package ? is it described in the handbook ?
17:26 < tri> additionally i what to build the linux the way that a user is automaticly loged on - what is the best solution to do this ?
17:30 < misl> tri: binary packages are just like normal packages, but no building is requried. Look at existing binary packages
17:30 < misl> grep "\[F.*BINARY" package/*/*/*.desc
17:31 < misl> tri regarding the other question, I am not skilled enough :-)
17:37 < tri> i look at the nvidia binary package - now i understand how to inlcude a binary package. anybody nows how to solve my second problem - the "automatic logon" - i think something like "rungetty" (http://www.penguin-soft.com/penguin/man/8/rungetty.html) may do it ?
17:42 < _Ragnar_> well that depends entirely on your init configuration ...
17:43 < tri> i the final i want to do something like this: http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/218 but with help of the t2-project and for linux... but i have just started... (http://imi.st/firmeza/) - it could by a long way...
17:43 < tri> do i have to chroot into the new build to change the init configuration ?
17:45 < _Ragnar_> well the inittab comes from the package sysfiles
17:46 < _Ragnar_> I'd modify the etc_inittab.txt there ;)
17:46 < tri> make sence
17:49 < tri> is agetty or mingetty used in t2 ?
18:06 < tri> ok it is agetty
18:08 < _Ragnar_> agetty
18:12 < tri> i am just searching the svn - where do i find agetty ?
18:18 < rxr> re
18:20 < rxr> we have multiple getties
18:20 < tri> i have found fgetty
18:20 < rxr> if you use the standard then it is agetty from util-linux or so
18:20 < rxr> $ grep agetty /var/adm/flists/*
18:20 < rxr> /var/adm/flists/util-linux:util-linux: sbin/agetty
18:22 < tri> thx
18:23 < rxr> you are welcome
18:30 < tri> what do you think about http://imi.st/firmeza - is it possible to do this with the t2-project and maybe what should i take care off ?
18:32 < rxr> tri: I take a look in a second
18:32 < rxr> I'm on remote on a client box right now
18:39 < rxr> sure - that is of course possible with t2
18:40 < rxr> and I could also help out if you get stuck with implementation issues
18:41 < rxr> maybe we want to develop that in our SVN trunk ? I would love to help with such a special target and also could easier answer questions when I have a local build ...
18:41 < rxr> what do you think ?
18:42 < tri> yes this would be create
18:43 < LMJ> moin moin
18:43 < rxr> hi LMJ
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18:43 < LMJ> how are you rxr ?
18:43 < Stelz> moin^3 LMJ
18:43 < Stelz> :D
18:43 < LMJ> moin Stelz
18:44 < rxr> LMJ: fine, thanks and yourself ?
18:44 < rxr> tri: do you already have t2 write access? did you start this target already ?
18:44 < LMJ> fine, was my birthday in friday :-D but i'm just out from a family lunch
18:44 < Stelz> ah, LMJ. gratz :-)
18:44 < rxr> LMJ: oh - happy birthday LMJ !!!
18:44 < LMJ> Thanks ¡¡¡
18:49 < LMJ> brb
18:51 < rxr> tri: some question left before I leave the office for tonight ?
18:52 < tri> rxr: not yet - if i have started to build the target you can put in the svn ?
18:52 < rxr> yes, sure so you send me a tar of the files you created ?
18:53 < tri> tri: yes - what adress ?
18:53 < rxr> rene @ exactcode . de
18:54 < CIA-9> rene * r21326 /trunk/package/security/loop-aes/loop-aes.desc: * updated loop-aes (3.1d -> 3.1e), though it does still not apply against 2.6.19
18:54 < tri> ok - thank you this is great!
18:55 < rxr> you can also have write access soon to commit yourself if you like
18:58 < tri> tri: i think i don't need write access now - i just have to update my svn knowledge... ;-)
18:58 < Stelz> :)
18:59 < Stelz> tri: why do u write "tri:" before the sentence
19:00 < tri> i don't no - i realised it just after sending the message...
19:00 < Stelz> like this
19:00 < Stelz> 20:53'27 | tri> tri: yes - what adress ?
19:01 < Stelz> strange.. :-)
19:02 < tri> it is maybe a bug - in my brain ;-)
19:02 < Stelz> lol
19:02 < tri> and there a lot...
19:08 < rxr> tri: I'm about to leave the office again - if you do send said tarball soon I could apply it in this moment ...
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19:09 < rxr> hi emte__
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19:14 < tri> rxr: sorry i am not at office today - i am back to work on monday. so i will send you the files on monday ?
19:14 < rxr> ok - sure
19:15 < rxr> have fun then tonight
19:15 < rxr> tri: remeber to just ask here if you have a question to your project
19:15 < rxr> good night all
19:15 < tri> rxr: fun.. - my maschine here at home is even to slow for irc...
19:15 < CIA-9> rene * r21327 /trunk/package/archiver/alien/alien.desc: * updated alien (8.64 -> 8.65)
19:16 < tri> rxr: gn rene ;-)
19:18 < wyvern> tri -- re autologin -- kde and i beleive gdm both can be configured for autologin -- and there's also the autologin package
19:20 < tri> wyvern: yes i think so - my solution-idea is http://imi.st/firmeza/login.html
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19:24 < wyvern> there is also ftp://ftp.koansoftware.com/public/linux/autologin/autologin-1.0.0.tar.bz2 which can be configured to login whichever user you want via a root owned/protected conf file --
19:24 < wyvern> i belive it's the same as ftp://ftp.altlinux.ru/pub/distributions/ALTLinux/Sisyphus/SRPMS.classic/autologin-1.0.0-ipl10mdk.1.src.rpm
19:27 < tri> wyvern: ah thx
19:32 < wyvern> not sure about the above -- but I've used the rpm for autologin-1.0.0-6mdk in the past and it works very well
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20:33 < sepp> hello :)
20:38 < CIA-9> sebastian * r21328 /trunk/package/security/loop-aes/ (gnupg-1.4.6.diff patch_o_matic.in): * fixed included gnupg patch
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08:22 < rxr> re
08:22 < rxr> moin all
08:24 < _Ragnar_> moin
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08:45 < rxr> _Ragnar_: I guess the areca kernel patch can be removed now that the driver is in the .19 kernel ?
08:45 < _Ragnar_> yea
08:45 < rxr> do you wanna commit ?
08:46 < _Ragnar_> hmmm
08:46 < _Ragnar_> ok
08:47 < _Ragnar_> remind me to add the userspace tools tho
08:50 < _Ragnar_> hmm no commit msg?
08:50 < rxr> CIA left ...
08:50 < _Ragnar_> oh
08:50 < rxr> 08:39 -!- CIA-9 [i=cia@cia.navi.cx] has quit []
08:50 < _Ragnar_> btw are you gonna be at ccc?
08:51 < rxr> depends how much proof reading I have to do on susan's diploa thesis :-(
08:52 < _Ragnar_> ah ok o_O
08:52 < rxr> maybe drop me a note if you make it there and I come around the block :-)
08:52 < _Ragnar_> do you live in berlin?
08:52 < _Ragnar_> lol ok
08:52 < rxr> yep, berlin near potzdamer platz
08:52 < _Ragnar_> ah kewl
08:53 < _Ragnar_> =)
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09:03 < misl> hi folks
09:03 < rxr> hi misl
09:03 < _Ragnar_> hi misl
09:03 < misl> hi rxr, _Ragnar_
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09:39 < rxr> heh - wanna search for the iPod: http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/station/crew-14/hires/iss014e08795.jpg
09:40 < rxr> http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/shuttle/sts-116/hires/s116e05405.jpg
09:48 < _Ragnar_> I'm off to bed
09:48 < _Ragnar_> nini folks
09:48 < rxr> n8 _Ragnar_
09:49 < _Ragnar_> have a nice day rene =)
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10:25 < rxr> _Ragnar_: http://bugs.t2-project.org/ticket/135
10:26 < Stelz> rehi all
10:26 < Stelz> moin rxr
10:26 < Stelz> any news with minix? :-)
10:26 < Stelz> i just wanna start an openbsd integration :D
10:27 < Stelz> asap
10:27 < rxr> heh
10:27 < rxr> maybe then just start :-) do not wait for me - I'm sooo busy
10:28 < Stelz> seems to be it's difficult for me without any templates.. but i'll try :)
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12:00 < tri> hi
12:00 < tri> can anybody build the kde-live-cd ? i cann't
12:01 < Stelz> hi tri
12:01 < rxr> hi tri
12:01 < rxr> tri: the kde-live-cd demo was just started to popular request
12:01 < rxr> it is not yet final
12:01 < rxr> beside that the 2.6.19 kernel update broke building some third party kernel modules
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12:01 < rxr> tri: if you want a pleasant build experience better build the branches/6.0 stable series
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15:06 < rxr> re
15:08 < Stelz> rehi rxr
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17:17 < tri> can i chroot into a new build to install the cisco vpn client before building the iso ?
17:20 < misl> tri: you can add a binary package for cisco vpn client
17:21 < misl> otherwise you have do that manual build every time you rebuild your target
17:21 < misl> adding that package makes it automatic
17:24 < tri> how do i add a binary package ? is it described in the handbook ?
17:26 < tri> additionally i what to build the linux the way that a user is automaticly loged on - what is the best solution to do this ?
17:30 < misl> tri: binary packages are just like normal packages, but no building is requried. Look at existing binary packages
17:30 < misl> grep "\[F.*BINARY" package/*/*/*.desc
17:31 < misl> tri regarding the other question, I am not skilled enough :-)
17:37 < tri> i look at the nvidia binary package - now i understand how to inlcude a binary package. anybody nows how to solve my second problem - the "automatic logon" - i think something like "rungetty" (http://www.penguin-soft.com/penguin/man/8/rungetty.html) may do it ?
17:42 < _Ragnar_> well that depends entirely on your init configuration ...
17:43 < tri> i the final i want to do something like this: http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/218 but with help of the t2-project and for linux... but i have just started... (http://imi.st/firmeza/) - it could by a long way...
17:43 < tri> do i have to chroot into the new build to change the init configuration ?
17:45 < _Ragnar_> well the inittab comes from the package sysfiles
17:46 < _Ragnar_> I'd modify the etc_inittab.txt there ;)
17:46 < tri> make sence
17:49 < tri> is agetty or mingetty used in t2 ?
18:06 < tri> ok it is agetty
18:08 < _Ragnar_> agetty
18:12 < tri> i am just searching the svn - where do i find agetty ?
18:18 < rxr> re
18:20 < rxr> we have multiple getties
18:20 < tri> i have found fgetty
18:20 < rxr> if you use the standard then it is agetty from util-linux or so
18:20 < rxr> $ grep agetty /var/adm/flists/*
18:20 < rxr> /var/adm/flists/util-linux:util-linux: sbin/agetty
18:22 < tri> thx
18:23 < rxr> you are welcome
18:30 < tri> what do you think about http://imi.st/firmeza - is it possible to do this with the t2-project and maybe what should i take care off ?
18:32 < rxr> tri: I take a look in a second
18:32 < rxr> I'm on remote on a client box right now
18:39 < rxr> sure - that is of course possible with t2
18:40 < rxr> and I could also help out if you get stuck with implementation issues
18:41 < rxr> maybe we want to develop that in our SVN trunk ? I would love to help with such a special target and also could easier answer questions when I have a local build ...
18:41 < rxr> what do you think ?
18:42 < tri> yes this would be create
18:43 < LMJ> moin moin
18:43 < rxr> hi LMJ
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18:43 < LMJ> how are you rxr ?
18:43 < Stelz> moin^3 LMJ
18:43 < Stelz> :D
18:43 < LMJ> moin Stelz
18:44 < rxr> LMJ: fine, thanks and yourself ?
18:44 < rxr> tri: do you already have t2 write access? did you start this target already ?
18:44 < LMJ> fine, was my birthday in friday :-D but i'm just out from a family lunch
18:44 < Stelz> ah, LMJ. gratz :-)
18:44 < rxr> LMJ: oh - happy birthday LMJ !!!
18:44 < LMJ> Thanks ¡¡¡
18:49 < LMJ> brb
18:51 < rxr> tri: some question left before I leave the office for tonight ?
18:52 < tri> rxr: not yet - if i have started to build the target you can put in the svn ?
18:52 < rxr> yes, sure so you send me a tar of the files you created ?
18:53 < tri> tri: yes - what adress ?
18:53 < rxr> rene @ exactcode . de
18:54 < CIA-9> rene * r21326 /trunk/package/security/loop-aes/loop-aes.desc: * updated loop-aes (3.1d -> 3.1e), though it does still not apply against 2.6.19
18:54 < tri> ok - thank you this is great!
18:55 < rxr> you can also have write access soon to commit yourself if you like
18:58 < tri> tri: i think i don't need write access now - i just have to update my svn knowledge... ;-)
18:58 < Stelz> :)
18:59 < Stelz> tri: why do u write "tri:" before the sentence
19:00 < tri> i don't no - i realised it just after sending the message...
19:00 < Stelz> like this
19:00 < Stelz> 20:53'27 | tri> tri: yes - what adress ?
19:01 < Stelz> strange.. :-)
19:02 < tri> it is maybe a bug - in my brain ;-)
19:02 < Stelz> lol
19:02 < tri> and there a lot...
19:08 < rxr> tri: I'm about to leave the office again - if you do send said tarball soon I could apply it in this moment ...
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19:14 < tri> rxr: sorry i am not at office today - i am back to work on monday. so i will send you the files on monday ?
19:14 < rxr> ok - sure
19:15 < rxr> have fun then tonight
19:15 < rxr> tri: remeber to just ask here if you have a question to your project
19:15 < rxr> good night all
19:15 < tri> rxr: fun.. - my maschine here at home is even to slow for irc...
19:15 < CIA-9> rene * r21327 /trunk/package/archiver/alien/alien.desc: * updated alien (8.64 -> 8.65)
19:16 < tri> rxr: gn rene ;-)
19:18 < wyvern> tri -- re autologin -- kde and i beleive gdm both can be configured for autologin -- and there's also the autologin package
19:20 < tri> wyvern: yes i think so - my solution-idea is http://imi.st/firmeza/login.html
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19:24 < wyvern> there is also ftp://ftp.koansoftware.com/public/linux/autologin/autologin-1.0.0.tar.bz2 which can be configured to login whichever user you want via a root owned/protected conf file --
19:24 < wyvern> i belive it's the same as ftp://ftp.altlinux.ru/pub/distributions/ALTLinux/Sisyphus/SRPMS.classic/autologin-1.0.0-ipl10mdk.1.src.rpm
19:27 < tri> wyvern: ah thx
19:32 < wyvern> not sure about the above -- but I've used the rpm for autologin-1.0.0-6mdk in the past and it works very well
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20:33 < sepp> hello :)
20:38 < CIA-9> sebastian * r21328 /trunk/package/security/loop-aes/ (gnupg-1.4.6.diff patch_o_matic.in): * fixed included gnupg patch
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