T2 IRC Log: 2006-11-28

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--- Log opened Tue Nov 28 00:00:25 2006
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08:12 < _Ragnar_> rxr: can you please fix svn? :)
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08:37 < CIA-9> rene * r21040 /trunk/package/graphic/libpng/libpng.desc: * updated libpng (1.2.13 -> 1.2.14)
08:39 < _Ragnar_> o_O
08:39 < _Ragnar_> eh why does it timeout for me?
08:39 < rxr> _Ragnar_: yes, I restarted apache in the morning
08:39 < rxr> _Ragnar_: I can fix it when I know where this issue is comming from ...
08:39 < _Ragnar_> I just tried still times out for me
08:40 < rxr> _Ragnar_: but I can try updating apache/subversion and migrating from bdb to fsfs
08:40 < rxr> and hope it is gone then
08:40 < _Ragnar_> ok
08:40 < _Ragnar_> would be nice to get this fixed
08:40 < _Ragnar_> also, dl of the mirror list fails
08:41 < rxr> right now or an hour ago ?
08:42 < rxr> rm: remove regular file `download/Mirror-Cache'? y
08:42 < rxr> root@localhost:/home/rene/develop/t2-trunk# ./scripts/Download emacs
08:42 < rxr> INFO: Auto-detecting best mirror ...
08:42 < rxr> INFO: Downloading mirror-list from exactcode.de.
08:42 < rxr> INFO: Testing ... ok 136988.000 B/s
08:42 < _Ragnar_> o_O
08:42 < _Ragnar_> eh o_O fuck
08:44 < CIA-9> ragnar * r21041 /trunk/package/network/bacula/name-conflict.patch: * bacula: fix a name collision that prevented the console client from being built
08:44 < _Ragnar_> nvm on that ... I fucked that up :P
08:44 < _Ragnar_> firewall was prohibiting the upload from the new ip
08:45 < _Ragnar_> sorry >.<
08:45 < rxr> no problem (beside we should get a static server)
08:45 < _Ragnar_> maaybe ;)
08:46 < rxr> thing is I would carry it into the TFH Berlin, 100BMbit DFN connect there
08:46 < _Ragnar_> oh btw ... know of any problems with the skge network driver?
08:46 < rxr> but due to power shortages and loose network cables the osiris.tfh-berlin.de has a lower up-time than our SDSL connect ...
08:46 < _Ragnar_> >.<
08:47 < rxr> skge, hm
08:47 < _Ragnar_> put in an ups?
08:47 < rxr> sky2 here at the moment
08:47 < _Ragnar_> the other NIC uses sky2 and works fine
08:47 < _Ragnar_> yea
08:47 < rxr> yeah - loose network cables and broken FreeBSD routers are the bigger problem in the UNI anyway
08:47 < _Ragnar_> but I had it drop out yesterday during load .. could only revive it by removing and replugging the cable
08:47 < rxr> power shortage was only once, the weekend last week ...
08:48 < rxr> I think I never had a skge so far
08:48 < _Ragnar_> the dropout was sky2
08:48 < _Ragnar_> the skge doesn't even get a heartbeat
08:49 < _Ragnar_> and as long as the sky2 works I don't need the skge, but when I go to germany for holiday I need to be able to recover the net on that machine if it drops out again >.<
08:51 < rxr> _Ragnar_: interrupt problem on the skge ?
08:51 < _Ragnar_> dunno o_o
08:51 < _Ragnar_> possible
08:52 < _Ragnar_> also, is there a way to make sure the two drivers load in a defined sequence? :P
08:52 < rxr> you mean for stable interface names ?
08:52 < _Ragnar_> yea
08:52 < rxr> you can use udev rules or this ifname thing to rename the interfaces in the way you like
08:53 < rxr> hm - was it ifname
08:53 < _Ragnar_> hmmm ok need to look that up
08:53 < rxr> but anyway - the modern way is to use udev rules
08:54 < _Ragnar_> yea ok
08:55 < _Ragnar_> sounds reasonable if I could understand it ;)
08:55 < _Ragnar_> well I should be able to figure it out
08:57 < CIA-9> rene * r21042 /trunk/package/xorg/randrproto/randrproto.desc: * updated randrproto (1.1.2 -> 1.2.0)
08:57 < CIA-9> rene * r21043 /trunk/package/xorg/compiz/compiz.desc: * updated compiz (0.3.2 -> 0.3.4)
08:58 < CIA-9> rene * r21044 /trunk/package/network/whois/whois.desc: * updated whois (4.7.19 -> 4.7.20)
08:58 < _Ragnar_> btw thanks for the -missing=no ;) that saved me lots of work already
08:58 < _Ragnar_> oh does mesa compile for you?
08:58 < _Ragnar_> (64 bit)
09:01 < CIA-9> rene * r21045 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfmedia/ (dbus-0.6.patch xfmedia.desc): * updated xfmedia (0.9.1 -> 0.9.2)
09:04 < CIA-9> rene * r21046 /trunk/package/base/coreutils/ (6.5-hotfix.patch coreutils.desc): * updated coreutils (6.5 -> 6.6)
09:06 < rxr> _Ragnar_: I'm about to sell my x86-64 64bit test box (MSI Megabook) and my MacBook (that is 32bit) in favour of the new MacBook with 64bit ...
09:06 < rxr> so - I have not tested the last days
09:06 < rxr> I can test on powerpc64 and sparc64, however - but that results may very greatly :-)
09:10 < _Ragnar_> ahok
09:10 < _Ragnar_> it's ok tho
09:13 < rxr> http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=015&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=250054399894&rd=1&rd=1
09:13 < rxr> http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=015&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=250054410269&rd=1&rd=1
09:30 < _Ragnar_> I'm off to bed, nini
09:32 < emte> rxr, i'll buy your mac if you ship it here for free
09:35 < rxr> CU _Ragnar_
09:35 < rxr> emte: ouhm
09:35 [Users #t2]
09:35 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-9 ] [ emte ] [ psycodad] [ Stelz ]
09:35 [ _Ragnar_] [ DEac- ] [ idealm] [ rxr ] [ valentin]
09:35 [ capey ] [ Demian] [ LMJ ] [ sepp ] [ zod ]
09:35 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal]
09:35 < rxr> emte: thing is there are enough crazzy people out that that place a fortune of bucks on the table to get a Apple on ebay
09:36 < rxr> so we better wait for one of those crazzy Mac addicts to bet the usual 1xxx EUR for the thing :-)
09:36 < rxr> emte: also it has a DE keyboard and you most probably wanna have a US or FR or so one in canada, no ?
09:45 < emte> i am not picky
09:45 < emte> you can always change the keymap
09:46 < emte> but yeah, lots of people pay big
09:46 < emte> i need to pay little :)
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10:08 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal]
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11:29 < rxr> hi mtr
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11:32 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal]
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11:45 < mtr> hi rxr ;-)
11:49 < mtr> i had two days of dsl failure
11:51 < mtr> this morning i found a spare dsl-modem in my office shelf, replaced the old teledat-300 - and dsl working again :-)
12:24 < rxr> :-)
12:24 < rxr> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/81600
12:24 < rxr> Yellow Dog Linux 5.0 für die Playstation ist da
12:24 < rxr> ^- "Mit Kernel 2.6.16, gcc 3.4.4 und glibc 2.4 wirkt die Distribution im Vergleich zu anderen aktuellen Distributionen nicht ganz taufrisch."
12:24 < rxr> ^- *lol*
12:42 < Stelz> hi all
12:48 < rxr> hi Stelz
12:49 < rxr> Stelz: new tag idea without any incompatible matching real world names even better:
12:49 < rxr> [KERNEL] short: [K] :-)
12:49 < Stelz> hmm :)
12:49 < rxr> for +/- linux, openbsd and the like
13:18 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p83.129.170.130.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2
13:18 < sepp> hello :)
13:25 < mtr> hi sepp
13:26 < sepp> hi mtr
13:28 < sepp> topic gone over night?
13:34 < Stelz> hi sepp, mtr
13:34 < sepp> hi Stelz
13:37 < rxr> ah yeah - topic vaished some days ago - I wonder why ...
13:39 -!- rxr changed the topic of #t2 to: T2 | 6.0.1 Released! - trunk going for 7.0 | The Open System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/
13:39 -!- rxr changed the topic of #t2 to: T2 | 6.0.1 Released! - trunk heading for 7.0 | The T2 Open System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | http://bugs.t2-project.org | http://www.rafb.net/paste/
13:43 < sepp> :)
13:45 < rxr> I fear we have to update the glibc in 6.0 a little
13:45 < rxr> I forgot the current one has issues on sparc
13:46 < rxr> major issues that is 64bit flavour is no building correctly ...
13:46 < rxr> merging: 17913
13:46 < rxr> 17915
13:46 < rxr> 17963
13:46 < rxr> solves that
13:46 < rxr> :-(
13:47 < rxr> guess I have to carefully test if that is ABI binary compatible ... :-(((
15:07 < mtr> rxr: svn dead again?
15:19 < rxr> ouhm
15:20 < rxr> svn kicked
15:21 < rxr> thanks mtr
15:21 < rxr> as soon as I have some new commercial thing release out I update apache, subversion and convert to fsfs
15:21 < rxr> let's hope that cures it somehow
15:21 < rxr> I have absolutely no idea how it got messed up - all I know is that it started when the load got over 100 on the srver some days ago and we sysrq'ed rebooted it ...
15:24 < mtr> thanks rene, its working again
15:30 < rxr> no problem
15:30 < rxr> sorry about the inconvienence
15:37 < CIA-9> mtr * r21050 /trunk/package/archiver/unzip/unzip.conf:
15:37 < CIA-9> * fixed unzip cross-build: to install within $basedir
15:37 < CIA-9> prepend $root to target dirs
15:59 < rxr> I thought I tested it, hm
16:31 < mtr> unzip Makefile: BINDIR=${prefix}/bin
16:31 < mtr> unzip build log:
16:31 < mtr> !> cp unzip funzip unzipsfx /usr/bin
16:31 < mtr> !> fl_wrapper.so: write outside basedir (/work/T2/t2): /usr/bin/unzip
16:31 < mtr> !> fl_wrapper.so: write outside basedir (/work/T2/t2): /usr/bin/funzip
16:31 < mtr> !> fl_wrapper.so: write outside basedir (/work/T2/t2): /usr/bin/unzipsfx
16:32 < rxr> yeah - I believe you - I just wondered what I tested .-)
16:33 < rxr> looks all right
16:33 < rxr> thing is that the commercial stuff on our side consumes so much time that I did not even reviewed the 1-texinfo issue ... :-(
16:36 < mtr> i've committed a texinfo patch an hour ago, seems that CIA is sleeping ;)
16:38 < rxr> oh - really - awesome!
16:39 * rxr testbuilding
16:39 < mtr> texinfo's configure was calling "env -i configure tools ..." when cross compiling
16:42 < rxr> ic
16:56 < rxr> == 16:46:53 =[1]=> Building base/texinfo [4.8a 7.0-trunk].
16:56 < rxr> == 11/28/06 16:48:03 =[1]=> Finished building package texinfo.
16:56 * rxr hugs mtr
16:57 < rxr> mtr: btw. did you notice already: http://rene.rebe.name/photos/?p=/Lxexpo-2006/ ?
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17:02 < misl> hi folks
17:15 < Stelz> rehi misl
17:22 < rxr> moin misl
17:22 < rxr> how was your work day ?
17:24 < misl> rxr: fine
17:25 < misl> brb, having dinner now :)
17:49 < rxr> have a nice dinner and greatings to the family
17:50 < misl> thanks :)
17:50 < misl> dinner is already don now
17:51 < misl> my day was fine how about yours ?
17:51 < misl> How was the exhibition you recently had ?
17:55 < rxr> oh - very good, thanks
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18:51 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal]
19:10 < rxr> so - off for dinner, likewise - fixes #911
19:15 < misl> rxr: enjoy your dinner ;-)
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21:45 < mtr> .oO - SVN is stalled again :(
22:14 < _Ragnar_> o_o
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