--- Log opened Sun Nov 05 00:00:21 2006 00:14 < Stelz> rxr: asleep? 00:25 < sepp> guess that means yes 00:54 * Stelz is away: Sleep is good. Zzzzz 01:09 -!- kensai [n=kensai@206.248.81.149] has joined #t2 02:28 -!- Baldzius_ [n=Baldzius@85.206.102.193] has joined #t2 02:31 -!- Baldzius [n=Baldzius@85.206.96.19] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:43 -!- kensai [n=kensai@206.248.81.149] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:09 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 04:18 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 06:05 -!- `axion_ [n=axion@cpe-74-70-233-12.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #t2 06:06 -!- `axion [n=axion@cpe-74-70-233-12.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:14 -!- misl [n=chatzill@84-104-172-187.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 09:15 < misl> hi folks 09:24 -!- Baldzius_ [n=Baldzius@85.206.102.193] has quit ["Leaving"] 09:53 * Stelz is back (gone 08:58:27) 10:02 < Stelz> rxr: ping? :) 10:02 < Stelz> hi misl 10:03 < misl> hi Stelz 10:35 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@pD9E13F71.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 10:49 -!- mtr [n=Michael@pD9E14DD8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:49 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr 10:52 < CIA-5> susan * r20669 /trunk/package/gnome2/gcalctool/gcalctool.desc: * updated gcalctool (5.8.24 -> 5.8.25) 10:56 < rxr> moin 10:56 < rxr> and pong 10:57 < Stelz> rxr: 10:57 < Stelz> embutils 0.18 released! 10:57 < Stelz> could u update embutils?.. 10:58 < rxr> yeah 10:58 < Stelz> there is a lot of patches in that base/embutils dir.. :( 10:58 < rxr> when I wanted to update it the download url was invalid 10:58 < Stelz> yeah 10:58 < Stelz> they have a new url 10:58 < Stelz> and new site maybe 10:58 < Stelz> http://www.fefe.de/embutils/ 10:59 < Stelz> and DL location is 10:59 < Stelz> http://dl.fefe.de/embutils-0.18.tar.bz2 10:59 < rxr> yesb 10:59 < Stelz> ddl.fefe.de 10:59 < Stelz> dl.fefe.de 10:59 < rxr> but when he released it the url of the embutils page was invalid 11:00 < Stelz> when u update it i could try it on my clear T2-build 11:04 < Stelz> rxr: is there any util to make unfocused windows transparent like this? 11:04 < Stelz> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/pre1/46153-1.jpg 11:05 < Stelz> i mean gtk+-2-programs 11:06 < rxr> Stelz: you need a X server with composite extension enabled and a window manager that does this 11:06 < rxr> and best a video chip that accelerates ARGB operations in hardware with an open source driver 11:06 < Stelz> uhuhu.. 11:09 < sepp> what gtk+ theme is that? 11:09 < sepp> moin :) 11:12 < Stelz> sepp: 11:12 * Stelz :: Desktop @ [ http://slz.sytes.net/desktop.png ] 11:12 < Stelz> :) 11:12 < Stelz> moin 11:12 < sepp> moin Stelz 11:14 < CIA-5> rene * r20670 /trunk/package/graphic/asymptote/asymptote.desc: * updated asymptote (1.16 -> 1.17) 11:14 < CIA-5> rene * r20671 /trunk/package/network/aoetools/aoetools.desc: * updated aoetools (11 -> 12) 11:14 < Stelz> the name of this theme is "Neutronium" but i fixed a lot of that code :) 11:14 < sepp> well, *box is ok but i prefer e17 :) 11:15 * Stelz is waitin for 1.0 final release 11:15 < sepp> for e17? 11:15 < sepp> that will not happen *eg* 11:16 < sepp> but it is already very stable ... 11:17 < rxr> "very" 11:17 < rxr> sepp: you run the latest t2 snapshot of e17 ? 11:17 < rxr> sepp: they rewrote Evas RGBA handling to use premultiplied alpha 11:17 < sepp> yup, never crashed on my box 11:17 < rxr> sepp: if you have the time maybe test a snapshot from yesterday and see if everything works again ? 11:18 < Stelz> 13:10'11 | * Stelz is waitin for 1.0 final release 11:18 < Stelz> 13:10'27 | sepp> for e17? 11:18 < Stelz> sepp: for fluxbox :-) 11:18 < sepp> sure, if there is some real change and not just the normal little api change they do to break things 11:19 < sepp> ahh :) 11:19 < rxr> the premultiplied alpha thing is a bigger change and why I hesitate to update it :-) 11:19 < rxr> but I mostly only use Evs for my toys 11:19 < rxr> if you run it all your time might be worth tested the latest version 11:19 < sepp> i will try it later ,-) 11:21 < sepp> e17 looks very cool and is fast ... that is why i like it :) 11:22 < rxr> (on a 290MHz SPARC it is not fast ...) 11:22 < rxr> well - I would not use e17 for anything serious due to the ever changing API along 11:22 < rxr> but Evas alone is quite reasonable 11:23 < rxr> (though I think about dropping it and using another not so often changing canvas) 11:23 < sepp> yes, that is totally crazy 11:24 < rxr> e.g. http://www.antigrain.com/ <- as a base for my C++ abstracted Canvas 11:25 < valentin> nice ! 11:25 < rxr> at least for some stuff Evas is not optimal and the ever changing nature not very developer friendly ... 11:25 < valentin> well. let's see how the api looks like first 11:25 < valentin> and evas is plain c 11:25 < rxr> valentin: yeah - too bad this stuff is more like Lua to embed into sources 11:25 < rxr> valentin: it has no Unix package to install into the system 11:26 < rxr> that is why t2 does not have it although I know it for some time ... 11:26 < rxr> another thing is this: http://www.amanith.org/ 11:29 < valentin> is it open source ? then we can add an exactbuild to it 11:30 < rxr> to anti-grain ? 11:30 < rxr> well - thing is when T2 is the only dist shipping it there is not much value 11:30 < rxr> we can embed it inside our own exact-gui-canvas 1:1 then anyway as we need it there for building on non-T2 anyway 11:30 < valentin> i mean not only inside of t2 11:31 < rxr> yeah - but it has no value when noone is using that 11:31 < rxr> however we could convince the upstream folks to add a proper unix build/install system around 11:43 < CIA-5> rene * r20672 /trunk/package/graphic/gqview/gqview.desc: * updated gqview (2.0.2 -> 2.0.3) 11:44 < CIA-5> rene * r20673 /trunk/package/graphic/libsdl_net/libsdl_net.desc: * updated libsdl_net (1.2.5 -> 1.2.6) 11:48 -!- Baldzius [n=Baldzius@85.206.102.193] has joined #t2 11:48 < Baldzius> moin 11:48 < rxr> moin Baldzius 11:49 < Stelz> hi Baldzius 11:49 < Baldzius> hi rxr Stelz 11:49 < sepp> hi Baldzius :) 11:49 < Baldzius> hi sepp :) 11:51 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/people.html 11:51 < rxr> ^- maybe comments what you wanna have on that page ? 11:51 [Users #t2] 11:51 [@ChanServ] [ Baldzius] [ idealm] [ rxr ] [ Stelz ] 11:51 [ _Ragnar_] [ CIA-5 ] [ misl ] [ sepp ] [ valentin] 11:51 [ `axion_ ] [ emte ] [ mtr ] [ shevegen] 11:51 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal] 11:51 < rxr> misl: -^ 11:51 < sepp> /var/cvs/e e17/libs/evas -D 2006-09-09 <- which 09 was the month again? i will never manage to remeber that ... 11:51 < Stelz> mm, nice, rxr 11:52 < Stelz> rxr: for the first maybe some info about location? 11:52 < rxr> Stelz: year month day 11:52 < sepp> ahh, thanks :) 11:52 < rxr> getting more and more fine grained to the right 11:52 < Stelz> rxr: this too :) 11:53 < rxr> sepp: at least I hope so 11:53 < Stelz> rxr: and nick in irc 11:53 < Stelz> some contact info maybe.. like jabber id 11:53 < rxr> Stelz: maybe you write some lines what info you would like to "export" as base 11:54 < rxr> and then we model the other and see how it goes ? 11:54 < Stelz> for everybody? 11:54 < Stelz> ah, ok 11:54 < Stelz> like a template, yea? 11:54 < rxr> no - you write yours and then we model the others 11:54 < Stelz> yeh 11:54 < rxr> also interesting: main working field in t2 11:54 < rxr> and: CPU architectures at hand 11:54 < Stelz> yup :) 11:54 < Stelz> yup yup :) 12:09 -!- kensai [n=kensai@206.248.81.149] has joined #t2 12:11 < Stelz> hi kensai 12:11 < kensai> hey!!! 12:11 < rxr> hi kensai 12:11 < rxr> Stelz: do you have your people text ready ? 12:11 < kensai> :) 12:14 < Stelz> rxr: yeah 12:14 < Stelz> maybe smthng like this but with colors.. :) 12:15 < Stelz> http://slz.sytes.net/t2.html 12:17 < Stelz> with bold/underlined text, etc. 12:17 < Stelz> like "Detailed info:" may be underlined 12:18 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p83.129.201.57.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:18 < Stelz> and make it without
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