T2 IRC Log: 2006-10-22

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--- Log opened Sun Oct 22 00:00:05 2006
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07:58 < misl> hi folks
09:50 < rxr> re
09:51 < rxr> moin misl and _Ragnar_
09:56 < CIA-9> rene * r20366 /trunk/package/x11-ng/xserver/xserver.desc: * fixed xserver to build after glitz
09:57 < CIA-9> rene * r20367 /trunk/package/perl/perl-module-build/perl-module-build.desc: * fixed perl-module-build to build before po4a
09:58 < misl> hi rxr
10:00 < _Ragnar_> hi hi
10:03 < rxr> re
10:03 < rxr> _Ragnar_: I do not have a running glibc updated system - so far I reference build it ...
10:03 < rxr> maybe you wanna track this signal change ?
10:03 < _Ragnar_> it's ok was my fault
10:04 < _Ragnar_> it was an old sysfiles package
10:04 < _Ragnar_> when I re-installed sysvinit the problem went away
10:11 < rxr> oh ok
10:11 * rxr hunting for fresh tea
10:19 < CIA-9> rene * r20368 /trunk/package/network/ (quagga/quagga.conf quagga/quagga.desc zebra/zebra.desc):
10:19 < CIA-9> * fixed zebra and quagga to not build in stage 3 (there is no
10:19 < CIA-9> reason they should - also no cross dependencies to solve ...)
10:19 < CIA-9> * removed hardcoded disabling of ipv6 and ospfapi in quagga
10:19 < CIA-9> * removed stray shebang and fixed spacing
10:21 * Stelz is away: Sleep is good. Zzzzz
10:21 * Stelz is back (gone 00:00:06)
10:23 < CIA-9> rene * r20369 /trunk/package/base/hdparm/hdparm.desc: * updated hdparm (6.7 -> 6.8)
10:23 < Stelz> uhm
10:24 < Stelz> tar 1.16 released
10:24 < Stelz> and mpg123 0.61
10:24 < Stelz> moin all
10:24 < Stelz> moin rxr
10:24 < Stelz> ;-)
10:24 < CIA-9> susan * r20370 /trunk/package/doc/howtos/howtos.desc: * updated howtos (20061006 -> 20061021)
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10:31 < Baldzius> moin
10:39 < rxr> moin Baldzius
10:39 < CIA-9> rene * r20371 /trunk/package/audio/mpg123/mpg123.desc: * updated mpg123 (0.60 -> 0.61)
10:39 < Baldzius> hi rxr
10:55 < rxr> the new gnu autoconf (2.60 I think it was) has some regressions
10:55 < rxr> quagga and openslp (some recusion limit hit)
10:56 < rxr> those are not yet in trunk, I have autoconf and now automake updates just as local changes in my trunk ref builder
10:58 < CIA-9> rene * r20372 /trunk/package/network/openldap/ (openldap.conf openldap.desc): * updated openldap (2.3.27 -> 2.3.28), and removed sone noise and spaces
11:03 < rxr> l */*/*.desc | wc -l
11:03 < rxr> 2512
11:04 < rxr> Stelz: thanks for the tar notification
11:04 < rxr> Stelz: do you wanna update it ?
11:05 < CIA-9> rene * r20373 /trunk/package/audio/snd/ (. snd.cache snd.desc): * added snd (8.5) - A sound editor
11:20 < CIA-9> aldas * r20374 /branches/6.0/package/network/asterisk/asterisk.desc:
11:20 < CIA-9> * merged r19522, r19670, r20298 from trunk to branches/6.0:
11:20 < CIA-9> updated asterisk (1.2.11 -> 1.2.13)
11:20 < CIA-9> security update
11:21 < Stelz> uhm, rxr
11:21 < Stelz> dunno how :-)
11:21 < Stelz> and i think i don't have write access to svn
11:25 < rxr> Stelz: you should get write access soone than later ;-)
11:25 < rxr> ok - tar i tricky to update as we have one patch that is not needed anymore and the bzip2 -yI patch needs rediffing
11:25 < Stelz> hehe
11:26 < Stelz> yeah
11:37 < CIA-9> rene * r20375 /trunk/package/archiver/tar/ (fix_getdate_c.patch tar-bzip2.patch tar.conf tar.desc): * updated tar (1.15.1 -> 1.16), and cleaned spacing
12:16 < CIA-9> aldas * r20376 /trunk/package/network/zaptel/zaptel.desc: * updated zaptel (1.2.9.1 -> 1.2.10)
12:22 < CIA-9> rene * r20377 /trunk/package/filesystem/cdrkit/cdrkit.desc: * fixed cdrkit to build after cmake
12:22 < CIA-9> aldas * r20378 /branches/6.0/package/base/hotplug++/ (hotplug++.conf hotplug++.desc make.patch whitespacing.patch):
12:22 < CIA-9> * merged r19555, r19584 from trunk to branches/6.0:
12:22 < CIA-9> updated hotplug++ (0.0.5 -> 0.1.0), includes blacklisting support via /etc/conf/blacklist
12:22 < CIA-9> added hotplug++ blacklist whitespacing patch from hotplug++ HEAD
12:23 < CIA-9> aldas * r20379 /branches/6.0/package/base/hotplug++/ (hotplug++.desc whitespacing.patch):
12:23 < CIA-9> * merged r19777 from trunk to branches/6.0:
12:23 < CIA-9> updated hotplug++ (0.1.0 -> 0.1.1)
12:33 < CIA-9> aldas * r20380 /branches/6.0/package/network/zaptel/ (split_make_install.patch zaptel.conf zaptel.desc):
12:33 < CIA-9> * merged r19793, r20376 from trunk to branches/6.0:
12:33 < CIA-9> updated zaptel (1.2.6 -> 1.2.10)
12:39 < Baldzius> so i am done wuth the merging and starting the reference build
12:39 < Baldzius> rxr: you have any merges left?
12:41 < rxr> oehm
12:41 < rxr> I dont't think so
12:41 < rxr> only automake/autoconf update in testing
12:41 < rxr> oh - and the ncurses update
12:41 < rxr> and the bash update
12:42 < Baldzius> all for 6.0?
12:42 < rxr> but they all need more testing before they go into trunk
12:42 < rxr> ah sorry / me confused ...
12:42 < rxr> forgive me ...
12:42 < Baldzius> i was talking about 6.0 :)
12:42 < rxr> for 6.0 I have nothing in my tree right now
12:42 < Baldzius> ok then :)
12:43 < Baldzius> there's left qt merge but i merge it after testing, maybe tommorow
12:44 < CIA-9> rene * r20381 /trunk/package/x11/fltk/make.patch: * forgot to add the fltk build patch to not build a defect subdir as well as not the tests
12:45 < rxr> Baldzius: yes, thats fine
12:45 < CIA-9> vlad * r20382 /trunk/package/www/eaccelerator/eaccelerator.desc: * updated eaccelerator (svn203 -> 0.9.5)
12:45 < Stelz> woohoo ;-)
12:46 < Baldzius> :)
12:46 < Stelz> my first commit
12:46 < CIA-9> rene * r20383 /trunk/package/xfce4/thunar/thunar.desc: * properly upercased the thunar Info text and removed spaces
12:46 < rxr> ;.)
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13:02 < Baldzius> rxr: so i am testing qt 3.3.7 and python 2.4.4 on 6.0 , both security related
13:10 < rxr> good
13:10 < rxr> I just tinker with DVD burning and the like
13:11 < rxr> I guess we have to set cdrtools in Optional state and build cdrkit by default some time soon
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13:17 < Stelz> uhm.. cdrkit?
13:17 < Stelz> wtf?
13:17 < Stelz> ney cd/dvd-burning software?
13:17 < Stelz> y -> w
13:17 < rxr> cdrtools fork
13:17 < Stelz> ha.
13:18 < rxr> cdrtools (aside the ever negative, pedantic, linux-unfriendly Joerg Schilling) changed the license of parts of the source to CDDL
13:18 < rxr> cdrkit is the GPL maintained fork now that hopefully develops a bit faster anf the like also
13:19 < rxr> additionally cdrkit as first thing dropped the rediculous Makefile system cdrtools does use
13:19 < rxr> this Makefile crap does not even return an error properly
13:19 < rxr> that is it happend that the t2 packageed looked fine as if it had build but in fact
13:20 < rxr> there was a compilation failure this Schilling Makefile system was hiding and not returning an proper error code ...
13:20 < rxr> whatever I'm very happy that it is now out of Schillings control ...
13:20 < rxr> also in former times cdrtools did not incldue DVD support
13:20 < rxr> Schilling sold that additionally
13:20 < Stelz> :(
13:21 < rxr> only recently when other forks of cdrecord, such as dvdrtools added GPL DVD burning code Joerg Schilling released his former commercial bits in cdrtools as well
13:21 < rxr> and the like - I guess you get the picture
13:21 < Stelz> yeah
13:26 < rxr> joerg schilling is known for his endless flamewars on linux-kernel, he always claimed the linux kernel would be too overall buggy for his "supposely perfect" cd writing software ...
13:26 < rxr> well - anyway - he lives just some blocks away here in berlin
13:28 < Stelz> :-)
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13:37 < kensai> hi people
13:38 < rxr> hi kensai
13:38 < kensai> :)
13:38 < Stelz> re kensai ;-)
13:38 < kensai> hey Stelz
13:40 < kensai> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/XclqFN12.html
13:41 < Stelz> hmmm
13:42 < Stelz> kensai: did u try enabling xtrace in the config to track an error inside the build system?
13:43 < kensai> yeah xtrace is enabled
13:45 < Stelz> uhm.. didn't try to build 6.0...
13:45 < Stelz> just built 7.0-trunk 2 weeks ago
13:46 < kensai> I can't find an error there
13:46 < kensai> strange
13:46 < kensai> only the tar error
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14:29 < rxr> kesai: this is a known issue with latest tar versions
14:29 < rxr> now that we have this tar version was well we really need to address it
14:29 < Stelz> rxr: 16:25'50 | ~ kensai (n=kensai@206.248.81.149) has quit ["Leaving"]
14:30 < Stelz> :-)
14:30 < rxr> (by reworking this code fragment to use something more inteligently...
14:30 < rxr> )
14:30 < rxr> Stelz: yeah - just wanted to drop a note you other know about it as well
14:30 < Stelz> ok
14:30 < rxr> a quick hack is to add --wildcards to the option in the glibc file
14:30 < rxr> this affects just glibc and I try to find a timeslot to fix this today
15:02 < CIA-9> rene * r20384 /trunk/scripts/Emerge-Pkg:
15:02 < CIA-9> * fixed Emerge-Pkg -system and -repository updates to not build
15:02 < CIA-9> blacklisted packages (such as glibc and co)
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17:30 * Stelz pokes CIA-9
17:30 < rxr> re
17:30 < Stelz> rehi rxr
17:36 < rxr> hey Stelz
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17:39 [Users #t2]
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17:39 [ _Ragnar_] [ kensai] [ rxr ] [ th ]
17:39 [ Baldzius] [ misl ] [ sparc-kly_] [ valentin]
17:39 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal]
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17:43 < sepp> hello :)
17:43 < Stelz> hi sepp ;-)
17:43 < kensai> hello sepp
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17:43 < sepp> hi * :)
17:54 < rxr> hi sepp
17:54 [Users #t2]
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17:54 [ Baldzius] [ misl ] [ sepp] [ valentin]
17:54 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal]
17:54 < sepp> hi rxr
17:58 < CIA-9> sebastian * r20385 /trunk/package/graphic/scribus/scribus.conf: * changed SDECFG_PKG_QT_EXCEPTION_STL test to SDECFG_PKG_QT_STL, got split @ r20089
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18:07 < trb7> hi
18:08 < Stelz> hi trb7
18:08 < trb7> hi Stelz :)
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18:20 < rxr> hi PSt
18:20 [Users #t2]
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18:20 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal]
18:20 < Stelz> hi PSt
18:20 < Stelz> :
18:20 < Stelz> :)
18:21 < Stelz> nice to see more T2-users
18:23 < trb7> hi PSt :)
18:23 < trb7> we're going to have full color management soon btw :)
18:23 < Stelz> trb7: what do u mean?
18:24 < trb7> the ability to transform rgb images to cmyk, using printer profiles
18:25 < trb7> to preview how the printers would render the color range
18:25 < trb7> and how monitors render color+contrast ranges
18:25 < trb7> vital for any serious graphics work
18:26 < trb7> lcms, argyll, scribus, inkscape, lprof, etc... monitor calibration, scanner profiles, digital camera profiles, printer profiles
18:26 < trb7> to ensure color consistency across devices
18:26 < Stelz> :-)
18:26 < trb7> and it's in conformance with xorg's future Xcms/OpenICC
18:26 < trb7> :)
18:26 < Stelz> hehe.. nice
18:30 < PSt> hi Stelz, hi trb7, I played a little bit with the T2-project and my system (VMware with T2 Project-CD) compiled since 24 hours the generic/minimalistic package.
18:30 < Stelz> nice
18:44 < CIA-9> aldas * r20386 /branches/6.0/package/x11-ng/xserver/xserver.desc:
18:44 < CIA-9> * merged r20366 from trunk to branches/6.0:
18:44 < CIA-9> fixed xserver to build after glitz
18:56 < trb7> see you later/tomorrow everyone ;)
18:56 < rxr> cu trb7
18:56 < trb7> good night ;)
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18:58 < CIA-9> rene * r20387 /trunk/package/filesystem/fuse/ (fuse.conf fuse.desc): * updated fuse (2.5.3 -> 2.6.0)
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19:39 < PSt> see following error at a Debian Sarge sytem with 2.4 kernel, any ideas
19:40 < PSt> cannot set up thread-local storage: set_thread_area failed when setting up thread-local storage
19:50 < PSt> the T2 ISO image has no problems, may it is problem with GNU/Linux Sarge V3.1r0 with 2.4.27-2-386 kernel
19:53 < PSt> I have to go now, bye.
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20:04 < rxr> a 2.4 kernel does not support TLS binaries ...
20:14 < sepp> too late :)
20:16 < CIA-9> rene * r20388 /trunk/package/base/sysstat/ (sysstat.conf sysstat.desc): * updated sysstat (6.0.2 -> 7.0.2)
20:16 < rxr> yeah - but just wanted to improve common knowledge here, maybe he also reads the html log of the channel :-)
20:17 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/irclogs/
20:18 < rxr> so - we are off - g'n8 & cu
20:18 < Stelz> cu rxr
20:18 < Stelz> sleep well
22:19 < CIA-9> vlad * r20389 /trunk/package/fonts/dejavu-ttf-fonts/dejavu-ttf-fonts.desc: * updated dejavu-ttf-fonts (2.10 -> 2.11)
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22:58 * Stelz is away: Sleep is good. Zzzzz
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