--- Log opened Wed Sep 27 00:00:20 2006 00:00 < pcryo> and i installed one from rpm2find which is an older package than 5.4-13 (centos default) and installed ncurses-devel.686 5.4-4 00:00 < pcryo> and running fine now continuing the build 00:02 < sepp> :) 00:03 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.144.94.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 00:19 < pcryo> Running ldconfig ... 00:19 < pcryo> Creating file list and doing final adaptions ... 00:19 < pcryo> Created file outside allowed top-level dir: dev/null 00:20 < pcryo> == 09/26/06 16:31:26 =[2]=> Aborted building package binutils. 00:20 < pcryo> ????? 01:20 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.146.93.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 01:36 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.147.195.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:00 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.146.93.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit ["leaving"] 03:06 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.67.232.101] has quit [Connection timed out] 03:16 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has joined #t2 03:21 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:40 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has joined #t2 03:40 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:05 -!- ojh [n=omer@71-215-191-22.eugn.qwest.net] has quit ["Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/"] 04:44 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has joined #t2 04:45 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:47 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@pD9E11789.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 04:55 -!- mtr [n=Michael@pD9E1425D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 04:55 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr 05:05 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has joined #t2 05:06 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:26 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has joined #t2 05:29 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:49 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has joined #t2 05:50 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:50 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has joined #t2 05:55 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:55 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has joined #t2 08:21 < pcryo> I have posted an e-mail containing the error in binutils package ! 09:21 -!- pcryo [n=chatzill@62.84.76.138] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.67+ [SeaMonkey 1.0.4/2006072904]"] 09:39 < rxr> re 09:39 < rxr> moin all 09:40 [Users #t2] 09:40 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-20] [ LMJ] [ rxr ] [ Stelz] [ valentin] 09:40 [ _Ragnar_] [ idealm] [ mtr] [ sparc-kly|WORK] [ th ] 09:40 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 11 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 10 normal] 09:40 < mtr> moin rxr 09:45 < rxr> moin mtr 10:06 < CIA-20> rene * r19772 /trunk/package/ (13 files in 13 dirs): 10:06 < CIA-20> * added the source checksum to pkgconfig, sed, ncc, stlport, orbitcpp, 10:06 < CIA-20> hp2xx, multican, continuum, bluez-libs, bluez-utils, ipa, psycopg, 10:06 < CIA-20> and gccmakedep 10:32 < CIA-20> rene * r19773 /trunk/package/python/python/parse-config: * keep python module access out of the package dependencies 10:33 < CIA-20> rene * r19774 /trunk/package/x86/syslinux/syslinux.desc: * updated syslinux (3.11 -> 3.30) 10:45 < CIA-20> rene * r19775 /trunk/package/base/lvm2/lvm2.desc: * updated lvm2 (2.02.09 -> 2.02.10) 10:51 < CIA-20> rene * r19776 /trunk/package/base/libol/libol.desc: * improved libol.desc I and T tag 11:19 < CIA-20> rene * r19777 /trunk/package/base/hotplug++/ (hotplug++.desc whitespacing.patch): * updated hotplug++ (0.1.0 -> 0.1.1) 11:50 < rxr> so - soon lunch - cu 12:04 < CIA-20> rene * r19778 /trunk/misc/target/initrd.in: 12:04 < CIA-20> * improved the initrd extension function to abbreviate the filenames 12:04 < CIA-20> so those usually long names do not disturb the build output 12:53 -!- AMD [n=Miranda@p5499752B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 12:55 -!- AMD [n=Miranda@p5499752B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Client Quit] 13:06 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:06 * rxr meeting - cu 13:15 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.67.232.101] has joined #t2 13:45 < rxr> re 13:45 < CIA-20> rene * r19779 /trunk/package/filesystem/cramfsswap/cramfsswap.desc: 13:45 < CIA-20> * fixed cramfsswap sentences to start Uppercase and polished the 13:45 < CIA-20> text, removed trailing newlines and took over maintenance 13:50 [Users #t2] 13:50 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-20] [ LMJ] [ rxr ] [ Stelz] [ valentin] 13:50 [ _Ragnar_] [ idealm] [ mtr] [ sparc-kly|WORK] [ th ] 13:50 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 11 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 10 normal] 13:56 < rxr> Digitalkamera mit 160 Megapixeln aus der Schweiz 13:56 < rxr> http://golem.de/0609/48039.html 15:17 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p83.129.191.84.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 15:17 < sepp> hello :) 15:17 < Stelz> hi 15:17 < Stelz> ;) 15:17 < sepp> hi Stelz :) 15:26 < rxr> ok - cu - later 15:26 < rxr> off to the next meeting 15:32 < Stelz> oh 15:32 < Stelz> why gimp depends on a lot of gnome libs? :((( 15:34 < sepp> it is optional 15:34 < Stelz> hm? 15:34 < Stelz> T2-build system han an optional depends? 15:34 < Stelz> *has 15:35 < sepp> that are build time deps of reference build 15:36 < Stelz> now i need to build my own t2.. 15:54 < Stelz> sepp: hmm 15:54 < Stelz> how i could select only packages i want? 15:54 < Stelz> after in ./scripts/Config or maybe anywhere else? 15:55 < sepp> Config / expert options / custom package selection 15:56 < Stelz> sepp: i found it but what's next? 15:56 < sepp> edit custom package selection 15:56 < Stelz> edit package selection rules? 15:56 < sepp> "X foo" enable foo, "O bar" disable bar 15:56 < sepp> yes 15:57 < Stelz> ah 15:57 < Stelz> only X / O ? 15:57 < Stelz> nothing else? 15:58 < sepp> ? 15:58 < Stelz> ah 15:58 < Stelz> now i see, thanks sepp 15:58 < sepp> np ,-) 16:01 < Stelz> hmm sepp.. how i could look at the dependencies of packages? 16:01 < Stelz> just looking in /package/* ? :) 16:02 < sepp> yes, but that are not minimal deps, like gimp and gnome 16:03 -!- AMD [n=Miranda@p5499752B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 16:05 < sepp> hi AMD 16:05 < AMD> hi sepp 16:06 < Stelz> hmm.. sepp 16:06 < Stelz> i found in ./package/graphics/gimp/gimp.cache 16:07 < Stelz> dependencie with gconf 16:07 < Stelz> but i don't need it 16:07 < Stelz> [DEP} gconf 16:07 < Stelz> [DEP] gconf 16:07 < sepp> then don't enable gconf for your target 16:07 < Stelz> hm.. sepp 16:08 < Stelz> how T2 knows that gimp doesn't need gconf to build and needs gtk+ for example? 16:10 < Stelz> i mean.. how t2 will know that gimp doesn't need gconf to build and needs gtk+ for example? 16:10 < sepp> it does not 16:11 < Stelz> sepp: ? 16:11 < sepp> there is no automated way to find out what lib is optional 16:11 < Stelz> :( 16:11 < Stelz> so if i'll remove gtk+ 16:11 < Stelz> and 'll try to compile gimp 16:11 < Stelz> package will be broken? 16:12 < sepp> yup 16:12 < Stelz> :((( 16:12 * Stelz is cryin 16:12 < sepp> don't cry :) 16:12 < Stelz> but.. sepp.. what about our future? 16:13 < Stelz> what about of solving this REALLY BIG BUG? 16:13 < Stelz> seems to be that this question is better for rxr :) 16:17 < sepp> i would not call it a really big bug 17:33 < rxr> re 17:33 < Stelz> rehi, rxr 17:34 < Stelz> what do u think about of things above? 17:34 < rxr> that we discussed on the mailing list that we want to introduce a way to mark optional dependencies ,-) 17:35 < rxr> also just this morning I commited a fix that will remove the many stray python based dependencies in the next bunch of to be commited .cache files 17:35 < rxr> for the record, we (in T2) want the feature to mark runtime and optional dependencies so the Config can be smarted and the end user installer as well 17:35 < Stelz> yeah.. 17:36 < Stelz> so any ideas? 17:38 < rxr> what idea do you miss? 17:38 < rxr> how to actually add those marks ? 17:38 < Stelz> ehm 17:38 < Stelz> ideas about optional deps 17:38 < rxr> maybe you browse the dependency mailing list thread I just posted some days ago to you ,-) 17:38 < Stelz> :) 17:39 < Stelz> fine. i'll read 17:39 < rxr> this is not yet implemented anyway - we have to write the code pieaces to deal with that ,-) 17:39 < Stelz> mm 17:39 < AMD> rxr: live cd doesnt boot :( 17:39 < _Ragnar_> for the runtime dependencies, do a ldd on each executable, and find the corresponding libs, and mark the packages those libs are in as dependencies. 17:39 < Stelz> now i see, rxr 17:39 < AMD> rxr: error while parsing number 17:39 < rxr> the thread: Wrong dependencies and other newbie questions 17:39 < rxr> on: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.t2.devel 17:40 < rxr> doesn't boot ? 17:40 < rxr> I test-booted it 17:40 < rxr> or do you mean error during installation or booting of the installed system ? 17:40 < AMD> rxr: error when trying to load linux I think 17:41 < AMD> rxr: there is grub and when I select the T2 CD there appears this error 17:41 < rxr> .oO 17:41 < rxr> screenshot or so ? 17:42 < rxr> _Ragnar_: the ldd is not too perfect 17:42 < rxr> _Ragnar_: this was discussed on the list as well 17:42 < rxr> _Ragnar_: we have an even smarter and more relibale (portable) way to distinguish them via the read files list 17:43 < AMD> rxr: how to shot screenshot before an OS runs 17:43 < rxr> AMD: digicam ,-) 17:43 < rxr> or vmware 17:43 < rxr> (or qemu) 17:43 < AMD> its just this one line 17:43 < rxr> what - jsut error while parsing number ? 17:43 < AMD> yes 17:43 < rxr> crazzy 17:43 * rxr booting that CD again 17:44 < rxr> never saw something like that from grub 17:44 < AMD> and the display shows white stripes 17:44 < rxr> you have the T2 themed grub on the screen ? 17:44 < AMD> yes 17:44 < rxr> white stripes ? 17:44 < AMD> just grub 17:44 < AMD> and there I can select t2 17:44 < AMD> and another choic 17:44 < rxr> yes, the installed system from HD 17:44 < AMD> lots of vertical white stripes 17:45 < rxr> ouhm - guess your BIOS does not like the graphic mode ... ?!?! 17:45 < AMD> maybe a framebuffer or something else 17:45 < rxr> does the "boot installed system from HD" option work ? 17:45 < AMD> that doesnt work 17:45 < rxr> that option works neither ? 17:45 * rxr going to prepare a CD without graphical grub then ... 17:45 < AMD> ill try out 17:45 < AMD> just a sec 17:45 < rxr> strange - never heared something like that 17:48 < AMD> error 23: error while parsing number 17:49 < AMD> so when the cd loads stage 2 or something like that the screen shows white stripes and indistinct text 17:50 < AMD> and these stripes keep until having fully loaded my installed Linux 17:50 < AMD> so when my gentoo is booting these stripes and the indistinct text are visible 17:51 < AMD> but when gentoo has finished loading, there are no more stripes or stuff like that 17:51 < AMD> im using a nvidia pci geforce gt7600 with PCI-E and DVI output 17:52 < Stelz> hm.. rxr 17:52 < Stelz> so T2 will have deps and build-deps soon? :) 17:53 < rxr> build-deps, and optional and run-time deps marked, yes 17:54 < Stelz> fine 17:54 < AMD> I just noticed a new release of sabayon linux (Live). It is based on Gentoo and has the latest stuff of building tools, drivers, kernel 2.6.18, .... I'll try out this for building t2 17:54 < Stelz> rxr: then T2-packages-db 'll be rebuilt? 17:57 < rxr> AMD: googling for that error makes me believe your BIOS does not support the access mode used by GRUB for CDs and thus GRUB thinks no CD is available ? 17:58 < Stelz> lilo ftw :) 17:58 < AMD> rxr: ok what, bios feature is missing? 17:58 < AMD> maybe I didnt enable it 17:59 < rxr> think it is more like implemented or not 17:59 < rxr> I do not remeber off hand what mode grub used, it is this non-floppy emumulation but direct access mode 18:00 < AMD> ok 18:00 < AMD> ive also grub on gentoo 18:01 < AMD> can I include the cd in the booting options 18:01 < AMD> or wouldnt this solve the problem 18:02 < AMD> I mean Grub on my hdd could be used for booting the CD!? 18:08 < rxr> no, the ISO aware Grub is a special stage2, your HD installed one does not read CDs ... :-( 18:11 < CIA-20> susan * r19780 /trunk/package/filesystem/dvd+rwtools/dvd+rwtools.desc: * updated dvd+rwtools (6.0 -> 7.0) 18:12 < CIA-20> susan * r19781 /trunk/package/python/dbutils/dbutils.desc: * updated dbutils (0.9.1 -> 0.9.2) 18:16 < AMD> in the boot directory of the cd the vmlinux_2.6.18-dist exists two times 18:45 < rxr> vmlinux and vmlinuz ? 19:17 < rxr> so - sorry - leaving office 19:17 < rxr> cu early in the morning 20:35 < LMJ> moin moin 20:48 -!- AMD [n=Miranda@p5499752B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org"] 20:56 < Stelz> moin moin moin LMJ 20:59 < LMJ> how are you Stelz 21:11 < Stelz> just fine, LMJ, thx a lot :) 21:11 < Stelz> u? 21:11 < LMJ> fine thanks 21:54 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p83.129.191.84.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:30 * Stelz is away: Sleep is good. Zzzzz 22:30 -!- Stelz is now known as Stelz[away] 22:31 < Stelz[away]> 'night all 22:31 < Stelz[away]> ;) --- Log closed Thu Sep 28 00:00:21 2006