T2 IRC Log: 2006-09-08
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--- Log opened Fri Sep 08 00:00:53 2006
00:25 < trb7> good night everyone
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09:29 < rxr> moin
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09:53 < trb7> hi
10:13 < rxr> hi trb7
10:16 < mipe> hi rxr,trb7
10:17 < rxr> hi mipe
10:17 < mipe> getting vnc compile against xorg-server is "fun" work :)
10:18 < trb7> hi rxr, mipe
10:18 < trb7> blender linking failed, fixed it
10:18 < trb7> already sent to the ml
10:19 < trb7> the 2.42a update...
10:19 < trb7> also have a package here, argyllcms, a color management system
10:19 < trb7> that deals with LUTs as well
10:19 < trb7> color tables for film work, lin<>log conversion, etc...
10:20 < trb7> haven't sent to the ml this one yet, but it works ok, blender also works, the new fix
10:20 < trb7> ;)
10:20 < trb7> trying to fix gcl atm
10:20 < rxr> sure send the new package as well
10:20 < rxr> trb7: the blender build error was on 64 bit ?
10:20 < trb7> yes, failed to find -lGLU
10:21 < trb7> added a var_append sconsopt with 2 options for x11 header + lib locations, via pkg-config
10:21 < trb7> builds and runs fine now
10:21 < trb7> also noticed 1 thing i have to fix, i noticed that some packages do cvs checkouts
10:21 < trb7> but use the old sourceforge cvs servers
10:22 < trb7> cvs.project.sf.net
10:22 < trb7> instead of the new project.cvs.sf.net
10:22 < trb7> i'll check this in more detail later, and update the pkgs
10:22 < trb7> to make sure everything's ok
10:28 < trb7> ok, argyllcms sent
10:28 < trb7> going to fix gcl, i'll be around
10:28 < trb7> ;)
10:34 < rxr> :-)
11:08 < trb7> btw, i sent a while ago a diff for xemacs to be in /usr/lib64 (if on x86-64)
11:09 < trb7> in any case, that version in particular is pooched, i found a consistent/repeatable bug
11:09 < trb7> if you open an existing file = sig11
11:09 < trb7> :)
11:09 < trb7> i'll check this later, perhaps file a bug report
11:10 < trb7> (this happens regardless of location, lib, or lib64)
11:10 < trb7> not that i will miss xemacs... but in any case...
11:14 < rxr> I only use xemacs-beta due to Xft
11:14 < rxr> it worked on x86-64 and ppc64 as far as I remeber
11:15 < rxr> only on sparc32 it did not compile :-(
11:15 < trb7> hmm, i keep getting sig11's when i open existing files, or if an backup exists
11:15 < trb7> not emacs however, emacs is ok
11:15 < trb7> building gcl.... after this, mlt++, openlibraries, jahshaka
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11:16 < trb7> hi idealm
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16:31 < trb7> good night everyone
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16:32 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-7 ] [ Demian] [ mipe] [ rxr ] [ Stelz[away]]
16:32 [ _Ragnar_] [ creyon] [ LMJ ] [ mtr ] [ sepp] [ valentin ]
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17:40 < CIA-7> mika * r19447 /trunk/target/desktop/pkgsel: * Added gtk+12 and glib12 to Desktop target
17:40 < rxr> errr mipe this was intentionally left from the desktop target
17:40 < mipe> now trunk builds desktop target fine except for packages kino,qemu,qtparted,vnc
17:40 < rxr> why do you re-add this very depricated packages ?
17:40 < mipe> deps
17:40 < rxr> which depsß
17:40 < rxr> desktop did not had anything that needed this old packages ?
17:41 < rxr> can you rather remove from desktop if there was anything that required it ?
17:41 < mipe> it did but i forgot what they where
17:41 < mipe> ok
17:41 < mipe> transcode was one of them
17:42 < rxr> hm
17:42 < mipe> ah, yes. thats the only one
17:42 < rxr> didn't that build fine in teh 6.0 release?
17:42 < rxr> maybe support is optional ?
17:42 < mipe> havent builded 6.0, so i dont know
17:46 < mipe> grep gtk+12 *
17:46 < mipe> normalize:[DEP] gtk+12
17:46 < mipe> transcode:[DEP] gtk+12
17:46 < mipe> grep glib12 *
17:46 < mipe> gtk+12:[DEP] glib12
17:46 < mipe> normalize:[DEP] glib12
17:46 < mipe> transcode:[DEP] glib12
17:46 < mipe> that's from just build desktop trunk
17:46 < rxr> yes but that are the MAX dependencies from the reference build
17:46 < rxr> many of them are often optional
17:46 < rxr> on the roadmap we have to manually mark them as optional in the .desc
17:47 < rxr> in the way normalize.desc:[E] opt glib12
17:47 < rxr> or so
17:47 < rxr> syntax not defined yet
17:47 < mipe> oh
17:51 < mipe> do you want me to revert the changes. i'll look at them at later time...
17:51 < rxr> yes because it was a feature of the desktop target in 6.0 to ship without this very old gtk+ stuff
17:53 < CIA-7> mika * r19448 /trunk/target/desktop/pkgsel: * reverted r19447 (gtk+12 and glib12 out from desktop target)
18:00 < CIA-7> jsaw * r19449 /trunk/package/graphic/ploticus/ploticus.conf:
18:00 < CIA-7> * set default prefabs dir during build (so that setting PLOTICUS_PREFABS
18:00 < CIA-7> is not explicitly necessary)
18:00 < CIA-7> * creat link ploticus -> pl ("pl" is constantly used in the docs)
18:10 < CIA-7> jsaw * r19450 /trunk/package/graphic/ploticus/ploticus.conf:
18:10 < CIA-7> * ups, "pl" is shared with swi-prolog, linking to pl is removed,
18:10 < CIA-7> instead a note is left that the docs should be patched to always
18:10 < CIA-7> use the full command name
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18:19 < misl> hi folks :-)
18:21 < rxr> hey misl
18:21 < misl> hey rxr
18:23 < rxr> Subsonic 2.8
18:23 < rxr> ^- package anyone ?
19:30 < CIA-7> jsaw * r19451 /trunk/package/gnome2/icon-naming-utils/ (4 files):
19:30 < CIA-7> * added icon-naming-utils (0.8.1) - Icon naming utility (Tango project)
19:30 < CIA-7> (required by gnome-icon-utils)
19:53 < CIA-7> ragnar * r19452 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-icon-theme/pkgconfig.patch: * gnome-icon-theme: updated pkgconfig patch for new version
19:54 < CIA-7> ragnar * r19453 /trunk/package/gnome2/gconf-editor/doc-hotfix.patch: * gconf-editor: remove obsolete doc-hotfix.patch
20:03 < rxr> hm - those os x freaks are strange
20:03 < rxr> now os x sed has a -i but incompatible with gnu sed
20:03 < rxr> it wants an argument for the backup suffix
20:03 < rxr> like sed -i .old ...
20:03 < rxr> how annoying
20:07 < _Ragnar_> o_o
20:10 < rxr> oh my god
20:10 < rxr> $ bash --version
20:10 < rxr> GNU bash, version 2.05b.0(1)-release (powerpc-apple-darwin8.0)
20:10 < rxr> now that is why apple calls 10.4 "recent" ?
20:12 < _Ragnar_> *lol*
20:12 < rxr> we should start making fluffy flash commercial add-on
20:13 < rxr> "sick of sed -i and bash-2.05b? get T2 6.0 today" ;-?
20:13 < rxr> "support for your ppc silicon did end? T2 6.0 - your escape at hand."
20:13 < rxr> ...
20:14 < rxr> "fear your distribution dies when the miliionaer is out of money? T2 - built by a community not built on money."
20:14 < rxr> and the - my favourite this mac vs. windows adds ,-)
20:15 < rxr> imagine this pc the mac and then a t2 linux guy!
20:15 < rxr> the possibilites are endless ,-)
20:15 < _Ragnar_> *grins*
20:16 < rxr> "PC: I can do spear and word. Mac: I can do iPhoto and iTunes and ... T2Linux: I can do whatever you want and you can even extend and contribute to me."
20:16 < rxr> and then this virus add ,-)
20:16 < rxr> "... Linux: oh I saw the first Mac viruses recently as well."
20:17 < rxr> and the one about crashing PCs could be extended to not as often crashing Macs as well ,-)
20:19 < CIA-7> rene * r19454 /trunk/scripts/core-functions.in: * improved the core-functions to work around mktemp's requiring -t
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20:23 < _Ragnar_> :p
21:14 < CIA-7> rene * r19455 /trunk/ (NEWS scripts/Download):
21:14 < CIA-7> * renamed download/Mirror -> download/Mirror-Cache to address case-insentive filesystem
21:14 < CIA-7> incompatibility
21:14 < CIA-7> * updated NEWS file with the API/ABI changes so far
21:22 < rxr> http://people.exactcode.de/~rene/non-system-t2-mac-osx.tiff
21:22 < CIA-7> jsaw * r19456 /trunk/package/base/pkgconfig/pkgconfig.desc: * updated pkgconfig (0.19 -> 0.21)
21:24 < rxr> ok - I boot mack into linux, nough os x for today ,-)
21:25 < rxr> .oO(when do I get OS X in Xen ?)
21:25 < rxr> anyway - cu
21:32 < CIA-7> rene * r19457 /trunk/package/gnome2/totem/totem.desc: * updated totem (2.16.0 -> 2.16.1)
22:04 < rxr> re
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23:17 < rxr> Business 2.0 Says 'Boycott Vista'
23:17 < rxr> http://slashdot.org/articles/06/09/08/1732204.shtml
23:32 < CIA-7> rene * r19458 /trunk/package/e17/ (36 files in 36 dirs): (log message trimmed)
23:32 < CIA-7> * updated etox (2006-04-17 -> 2006-09-06)
23:32 < CIA-7> * updated evidence (2006-04-17 -> 2006-09-06)
23:32 < CIA-7> * updated etk (2006-04-17 -> 2006-09-06)
23:32 < CIA-7> * updated examine (2006-04-17 -> 2006-09-06)
23:33 < CIA-7> * updated engage (2006-04-17 -> 2006-09-06)
23:33 < CIA-7> * updated envision (2006-04-17 -> 2006-09-06)
23:33 < rxr> n8 all
23:33 < CIA-7> jsaw * r19459 /trunk/package/base/binutils/binutils.conf: * also build the shared libraries
23:33 < CIA-7> rene * r19460 /trunk/package/x86/lilo/lilo.desc: * updated lilo (22.7.1 -> 22.7.3)
23:39 < CIA-7> jsaw * r19461 /trunk/package/base/ (pkgconfig/parse-config sysfiles/etc_profile.txt): * search more paths (e.g. include */share/pkgconfig)
23:39 < CIA-7> jsaw * r19462 /trunk/package/network/dbus/dbus.desc: * updated dbus (0.91 -> 0.92)
23:41 < CIA-7> jsaw * r19463 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-vfs-moniker/ (. gnome-vfs-moniker.cache gnome-vfs-moniker.desc):
23:41 < CIA-7> * added gnome-vfs-moniker (2.15.3) - Gnome virtual file system monikers
23:41 < CIA-7> (obviously required for API/ABI compat)
23:42 < CIA-7> jsaw * r19464 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-doc-utils/gnome-doc-utils.desc: * needs to be build before gconf-editor
23:45 < CIA-7> jsaw * r19465 /trunk/package/gnome2/ (2 files in 2 dirs): * pkgconfig path correction not necessary any more
23:48 < CIA-7> jsaw * r19466 /trunk/package/x11/libvncserver/libvncserver.desc: * enable shared libraries
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00:25 < trb7> good night everyone
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09:29 < rxr> moin
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09:53 < trb7> hi
10:13 < rxr> hi trb7
10:16 < mipe> hi rxr,trb7
10:17 < rxr> hi mipe
10:17 < mipe> getting vnc compile against xorg-server is "fun" work :)
10:18 < trb7> hi rxr, mipe
10:18 < trb7> blender linking failed, fixed it
10:18 < trb7> already sent to the ml
10:19 < trb7> the 2.42a update...
10:19 < trb7> also have a package here, argyllcms, a color management system
10:19 < trb7> that deals with LUTs as well
10:19 < trb7> color tables for film work, lin<>log conversion, etc...
10:20 < trb7> haven't sent to the ml this one yet, but it works ok, blender also works, the new fix
10:20 < trb7> ;)
10:20 < trb7> trying to fix gcl atm
10:20 < rxr> sure send the new package as well
10:20 < rxr> trb7: the blender build error was on 64 bit ?
10:20 < trb7> yes, failed to find -lGLU
10:21 < trb7> added a var_append sconsopt with 2 options for x11 header + lib locations, via pkg-config
10:21 < trb7> builds and runs fine now
10:21 < trb7> also noticed 1 thing i have to fix, i noticed that some packages do cvs checkouts
10:21 < trb7> but use the old sourceforge cvs servers
10:22 < trb7> cvs.project.sf.net
10:22 < trb7> instead of the new project.cvs.sf.net
10:22 < trb7> i'll check this in more detail later, and update the pkgs
10:22 < trb7> to make sure everything's ok
10:28 < trb7> ok, argyllcms sent
10:28 < trb7> going to fix gcl, i'll be around
10:28 < trb7> ;)
10:34 < rxr> :-)
11:08 < trb7> btw, i sent a while ago a diff for xemacs to be in /usr/lib64 (if on x86-64)
11:09 < trb7> in any case, that version in particular is pooched, i found a consistent/repeatable bug
11:09 < trb7> if you open an existing file = sig11
11:09 < trb7> :)
11:09 < trb7> i'll check this later, perhaps file a bug report
11:10 < trb7> (this happens regardless of location, lib, or lib64)
11:10 < trb7> not that i will miss xemacs... but in any case...
11:14 < rxr> I only use xemacs-beta due to Xft
11:14 < rxr> it worked on x86-64 and ppc64 as far as I remeber
11:15 < rxr> only on sparc32 it did not compile :-(
11:15 < trb7> hmm, i keep getting sig11's when i open existing files, or if an backup exists
11:15 < trb7> not emacs however, emacs is ok
11:15 < trb7> building gcl.... after this, mlt++, openlibraries, jahshaka
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11:16 < trb7> hi idealm
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16:31 < trb7> good night everyone
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16:32 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-7 ] [ Demian] [ mipe] [ rxr ] [ Stelz[away]]
16:32 [ _Ragnar_] [ creyon] [ LMJ ] [ mtr ] [ sepp] [ valentin ]
16:32 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 11 normal]
17:40 < CIA-7> mika * r19447 /trunk/target/desktop/pkgsel: * Added gtk+12 and glib12 to Desktop target
17:40 < rxr> errr mipe this was intentionally left from the desktop target
17:40 < mipe> now trunk builds desktop target fine except for packages kino,qemu,qtparted,vnc
17:40 < rxr> why do you re-add this very depricated packages ?
17:40 < mipe> deps
17:40 < rxr> which depsß
17:40 < rxr> desktop did not had anything that needed this old packages ?
17:41 < rxr> can you rather remove from desktop if there was anything that required it ?
17:41 < mipe> it did but i forgot what they where
17:41 < mipe> ok
17:41 < mipe> transcode was one of them
17:42 < rxr> hm
17:42 < mipe> ah, yes. thats the only one
17:42 < rxr> didn't that build fine in teh 6.0 release?
17:42 < rxr> maybe support is optional ?
17:42 < mipe> havent builded 6.0, so i dont know
17:46 < mipe> grep gtk+12 *
17:46 < mipe> normalize:[DEP] gtk+12
17:46 < mipe> transcode:[DEP] gtk+12
17:46 < mipe> grep glib12 *
17:46 < mipe> gtk+12:[DEP] glib12
17:46 < mipe> normalize:[DEP] glib12
17:46 < mipe> transcode:[DEP] glib12
17:46 < mipe> that's from just build desktop trunk
17:46 < rxr> yes but that are the MAX dependencies from the reference build
17:46 < rxr> many of them are often optional
17:46 < rxr> on the roadmap we have to manually mark them as optional in the .desc
17:47 < rxr> in the way normalize.desc:[E] opt glib12
17:47 < rxr> or so
17:47 < rxr> syntax not defined yet
17:47 < mipe> oh
17:51 < mipe> do you want me to revert the changes. i'll look at them at later time...
17:51 < rxr> yes because it was a feature of the desktop target in 6.0 to ship without this very old gtk+ stuff
17:53 < CIA-7> mika * r19448 /trunk/target/desktop/pkgsel: * reverted r19447 (gtk+12 and glib12 out from desktop target)
18:00 < CIA-7> jsaw * r19449 /trunk/package/graphic/ploticus/ploticus.conf:
18:00 < CIA-7> * set default prefabs dir during build (so that setting PLOTICUS_PREFABS
18:00 < CIA-7> is not explicitly necessary)
18:00 < CIA-7> * creat link ploticus -> pl ("pl" is constantly used in the docs)
18:10 < CIA-7> jsaw * r19450 /trunk/package/graphic/ploticus/ploticus.conf:
18:10 < CIA-7> * ups, "pl" is shared with swi-prolog, linking to pl is removed,
18:10 < CIA-7> instead a note is left that the docs should be patched to always
18:10 < CIA-7> use the full command name
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18:19 < misl> hi folks :-)
18:21 < rxr> hey misl
18:21 < misl> hey rxr
18:23 < rxr> Subsonic 2.8
18:23 < rxr> ^- package anyone ?
19:30 < CIA-7> jsaw * r19451 /trunk/package/gnome2/icon-naming-utils/ (4 files):
19:30 < CIA-7> * added icon-naming-utils (0.8.1) - Icon naming utility (Tango project)
19:30 < CIA-7> (required by gnome-icon-utils)
19:53 < CIA-7> ragnar * r19452 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-icon-theme/pkgconfig.patch: * gnome-icon-theme: updated pkgconfig patch for new version
19:54 < CIA-7> ragnar * r19453 /trunk/package/gnome2/gconf-editor/doc-hotfix.patch: * gconf-editor: remove obsolete doc-hotfix.patch
20:03 < rxr> hm - those os x freaks are strange
20:03 < rxr> now os x sed has a -i but incompatible with gnu sed
20:03 < rxr> it wants an argument for the backup suffix
20:03 < rxr> like sed -i .old ...
20:03 < rxr> how annoying
20:07 < _Ragnar_> o_o
20:10 < rxr> oh my god
20:10 < rxr> $ bash --version
20:10 < rxr> GNU bash, version 2.05b.0(1)-release (powerpc-apple-darwin8.0)
20:10 < rxr> now that is why apple calls 10.4 "recent" ?
20:12 < _Ragnar_> *lol*
20:12 < rxr> we should start making fluffy flash commercial add-on
20:13 < rxr> "sick of sed -i and bash-2.05b? get T2 6.0 today" ;-?
20:13 < rxr> "support for your ppc silicon did end? T2 6.0 - your escape at hand."
20:13 < rxr> ...
20:14 < rxr> "fear your distribution dies when the miliionaer is out of money? T2 - built by a community not built on money."
20:14 < rxr> and the - my favourite this mac vs. windows adds ,-)
20:15 < rxr> imagine this pc the mac and then a t2 linux guy!
20:15 < rxr> the possibilites are endless ,-)
20:15 < _Ragnar_> *grins*
20:16 < rxr> "PC: I can do spear and word. Mac: I can do iPhoto and iTunes and ... T2Linux: I can do whatever you want and you can even extend and contribute to me."
20:16 < rxr> and then this virus add ,-)
20:16 < rxr> "... Linux: oh I saw the first Mac viruses recently as well."
20:17 < rxr> and the one about crashing PCs could be extended to not as often crashing Macs as well ,-)
20:19 < CIA-7> rene * r19454 /trunk/scripts/core-functions.in: * improved the core-functions to work around mktemp's requiring -t
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20:23 < _Ragnar_> :p
21:14 < CIA-7> rene * r19455 /trunk/ (NEWS scripts/Download):
21:14 < CIA-7> * renamed download/Mirror -> download/Mirror-Cache to address case-insentive filesystem
21:14 < CIA-7> incompatibility
21:14 < CIA-7> * updated NEWS file with the API/ABI changes so far
21:22 < rxr> http://people.exactcode.de/~rene/non-system-t2-mac-osx.tiff
21:22 < CIA-7> jsaw * r19456 /trunk/package/base/pkgconfig/pkgconfig.desc: * updated pkgconfig (0.19 -> 0.21)
21:24 < rxr> ok - I boot mack into linux, nough os x for today ,-)
21:25 < rxr> .oO(when do I get OS X in Xen ?)
21:25 < rxr> anyway - cu
21:32 < CIA-7> rene * r19457 /trunk/package/gnome2/totem/totem.desc: * updated totem (2.16.0 -> 2.16.1)
22:04 < rxr> re
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23:17 < rxr> Business 2.0 Says 'Boycott Vista'
23:17 < rxr> http://slashdot.org/articles/06/09/08/1732204.shtml
23:32 < CIA-7> rene * r19458 /trunk/package/e17/ (36 files in 36 dirs): (log message trimmed)
23:32 < CIA-7> * updated etox (2006-04-17 -> 2006-09-06)
23:32 < CIA-7> * updated evidence (2006-04-17 -> 2006-09-06)
23:32 < CIA-7> * updated etk (2006-04-17 -> 2006-09-06)
23:32 < CIA-7> * updated examine (2006-04-17 -> 2006-09-06)
23:33 < CIA-7> * updated engage (2006-04-17 -> 2006-09-06)
23:33 < CIA-7> * updated envision (2006-04-17 -> 2006-09-06)
23:33 < rxr> n8 all
23:33 < CIA-7> jsaw * r19459 /trunk/package/base/binutils/binutils.conf: * also build the shared libraries
23:33 < CIA-7> rene * r19460 /trunk/package/x86/lilo/lilo.desc: * updated lilo (22.7.1 -> 22.7.3)
23:39 < CIA-7> jsaw * r19461 /trunk/package/base/ (pkgconfig/parse-config sysfiles/etc_profile.txt): * search more paths (e.g. include */share/pkgconfig)
23:39 < CIA-7> jsaw * r19462 /trunk/package/network/dbus/dbus.desc: * updated dbus (0.91 -> 0.92)
23:41 < CIA-7> jsaw * r19463 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-vfs-moniker/ (. gnome-vfs-moniker.cache gnome-vfs-moniker.desc):
23:41 < CIA-7> * added gnome-vfs-moniker (2.15.3) - Gnome virtual file system monikers
23:41 < CIA-7> (obviously required for API/ABI compat)
23:42 < CIA-7> jsaw * r19464 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-doc-utils/gnome-doc-utils.desc: * needs to be build before gconf-editor
23:45 < CIA-7> jsaw * r19465 /trunk/package/gnome2/ (2 files in 2 dirs): * pkgconfig path correction not necessary any more
23:48 < CIA-7> jsaw * r19466 /trunk/package/x11/libvncserver/libvncserver.desc: * enable shared libraries
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