--- Log opened Mon Jul 24 00:00:41 2006 01:19 -!- _Ragnar__ [i=loki@216.250.77.230] has joined #t2 01:19 -!- _Ragnar_ [i=loki@216.250.77.230] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:30 -!- _Ragnar__ is now known as _Ragnar_ 01:50 -!- misl [n=chatzill@84-104-172-187.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:53 -!- ChanServ [ChanServ@services.] has quit [Shutting Down] 06:53 -!- ChanServ [ChanServ@services.] has joined #t2 06:53 -!- ServerMode/#t2 [+o ChanServ] by irc.freenode.net 06:58 -!- ChanServ [ChanServ@services.] has quit [Shutting Down] 06:59 -!- ChanServ [ChanServ@services.] has joined #t2 06:59 -!- ServerMode/#t2 [+o ChanServ] by irc.freenode.net 07:02 < rxr_> re 07:02 -!- You're now known as rxr 07:08 -!- ChanServ [ChanServ@services.] has quit [Shutting Down] 07:09 -!- ChanServ [ChanServ@services.] has joined #t2 07:09 -!- ServerMode/#t2 [+o ChanServ] by irc.freenode.net 07:14 -!- ChanServ [ChanServ@services.] has quit [Shutting Down] 07:16 < Baldzius> hi rxr 07:16 -!- ChanServ [ChanServ@services.] has joined #t2 07:16 -!- ServerMode/#t2 [+o ChanServ] by irc.freenode.net 08:10 < rxr> hi Baldzius 08:17 < CIA-7> rene * r18722 /trunk/package/base/htop/htop.desc: * updated htop (0.6.2 -> 0.6.3) 08:20 < Baldzius> :) 08:20 < rxr> Baldzius: I started the koffice build on the G5 08:20 < Baldzius> with the fix? 08:21 < rxr> nope to fix it ,-) 08:21 < Baldzius> oh :) 08:55 -!- sepp_ is now known as sepp 08:55 < sepp> hello :) 08:56 < CIA-7> sebastian * r18723 /trunk/package/x11/linuxwacom/ (linuxwacom.desc xorg-7.patch): * updated linuxwacom (0.7.2 -> 0.7.4-3) 08:57 < Baldzius> hi sepp 08:57 < sepp> hi Baldzius 09:02 < rxr> hi sepp 09:02 < sepp> hi rxr 09:19 < rxr> I think it is possible to retrieve a Sony ATRAC codec form the PPC Sony binary with some ppc assembly to C regex translation ,-) 09:20 < rxr> with quite minimal efford, that is maybe in some days 09:21 < rxr> LMJ: I "fight 09:22 < rxr> LMJ: I "fight" with Sony MD DRM "crap" because I'm a MD users/owner since the mid 90th and recently got a HiMD portable recorder 09:22 < rxr> obviously I do not want to power up a WinXP AMD Geode LX box in a dusty corner to exchange music from the device 09:22 < rxr> btw. Apple iPod also does not play mp3 as it 09:23 < rxr> some binary meta data DB files have to be tweaked accordingly, likewise 09:23 < rxr> so the MD is not that worser than the iPod, just that those Gnupod folks have written a (was it Perl?) module for it 09:23 < rxr> http://rene.rebe.name/2006-07-02/sony-mz-rh-1-md-walkman-review/ 09:27 < rxr> valentin: btw the U30 is much more stable now, (with T2 HEAD) 09:27 < rxr> valentin: no lookup since then 09:27 < rxr> valentin: and it run a week once and now nearly 3 days again 09:27 < rxr> valentin: I plan to not power it down in the new office and see if it ever freezes again 12:09 < rxr> heh just found out the MD data is most probablz DES encrypted 12:09 < rxr> Baldzius: what was shared in your koffice build? I only have this file here: 12:09 < rxr> !> opt/kde3/share/doc/HTML/es/api/kfontdialog.png: kde-i18n-es koffice-i18n 12:10 < Baldzius> rxr: yes 12:10 < Baldzius> this file only 12:14 < rxr> ok / me patching 12:16 < CIA-7> chris * r18724 /trunk/package/python/itools/itools.desc: * updated itools (0.12.3 -> 0.13.8) 12:26 < rxr> ok, some more MD notes: encryption is either plain, des ecb with session key or des dbc with session key and the encyption just normal 3des it appears 12:26 < rxr> the disk key might be on a special system are to be read with some vendor command I think, but that is under review some time later 12:34 < CIA-7> chris * r18725 /trunk/package/multimedia/libosip2/libosip2.desc: * updated libosip2 (2.2.2 -> 3.0.0) 12:34 < CIA-7> chris * r18726 /trunk/package/security/libprelude/libprelude.desc: * updated libprelude (0.9.9 -> 0.9.10) 12:36 < CIA-7> chris * r18727 /trunk/package/security/samhain/samhain.desc: * updated samhain (2.2.1 -> 2.2.2) 12:40 < CIA-7> rene * r18728 /trunk/package/kde/koffice-i18n/shared-files.patch.koffice-l10n-es: * fixed shared file of koffice-i18n (koffice-l10n-es) 12:52 < CIA-7> rene * r18729 /trunk/architecture/ (sparc/kernel.conf.m4 sparc64/kernel.conf.m4): * link the main RTC support into the sparc* kernels 13:06 < rxr> bets taken how long I 13:06 < rxr> 'll need to get the first audio onto or from the device ,-) 14:46 < CIA-7> chris * r18730 /trunk/package/develop/flawfinder/ (. flawfinder.cache flawfinder.desc): * added flawfinder (1.26) - A program that scans source code looking for security weaknesses. 14:54 < CIA-7> rene * r18731 /trunk/package/develop/boomerang/ (. boomerang.cache boomerang.conf boomerang.desc gcc41.patch): * added boomerang (2006-07-01) - A decompiler for native executables 14:57 < rxr> hm, janitor task: remove the trailing dots of I tags as shown by: 14:57 < rxr> grep "\[I\].*\.$" */*/*.desc 14:57 < rxr> 115 currently :-( 15:02 < rxr> AMD ?bernimmt ATI f?r 5,4 Milliarden Dollar 15:02 < rxr> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 15:16 < LMJ> moin moin 15:17 < rxr> moin moin LMJ 15:17 < rxr> I pasted notes why I work on Sony Hi-MD related code, do you see them in your scrollback ? 15:17 < LMJ> sup rxr ? 15:18 < LMJ> yes ;) 15:18 < LMJ> MD user ;) 15:18 < LMJ> why not get a simple mp3/c/ogg player ? 15:19 < rxr> because as I wrote in my plog I also used to make music myself or record gigs of friends and the like 15:20 < rxr> nearly no mp3 junk allows recording 15:20 < LMJ> hehe 15:20 < rxr> and btw. the iPod also required binary database bookkeeping file updates 15:20 < rxr> also I can exchange the 1GB MDs and place them in the shelf 15:20 < rxr> when I drop a mp3 player on the floor I often kiss my music good bye 15:21 < rxr> and last but not least the 1GB HiMD form nice data exchange media 15:21 < rxr> e.g. few people use comfortable packet writing with CDs and just drag'n droping file onto your HiMD 1GB magneto optical disc with a neat form factor is just nice 15:21 < LMJ> but the HD re-encode one again the music 15:22 < rxr> nope the 2nd gen himd players play mp3 15:22 < LMJ> Md* 15:22 < LMJ> those MD has been old-school before they came out :-P 15:22 < rxr> and in times when I started with MD ATRAC had superior quality to MP3, there have been no MP3 players and thus the PCM got directly to ATRAC anyway\ 15:22 < rxr> hehe, no 15:23 < rxr> MDs have been 10 years to early to be successful 15:23 < rxr> few had an idea what to do with them 15:23 < rxr> the biggest thing Sony did wrong was not releasing cheap floppy drives 15:23 < LMJ> well, it will be a good contribution for OSS ;) 15:23 < rxr> then in 1995 we would have get rid of 1.44" flopies 15:23 < rxr> floppies 15:24 < rxr> but the only extremly expensive drive at that time was of course not a success 15:24 < rxr> but just because of the $$$$ price 15:24 < LMJ> rxr : do you know where is "48301 Nottuln" in germany ? 15:25 < rxr> nope ,-) 15:25 < rxr> according the the number somewhere in the middle but I have not heared that name before 15:26 < LMJ> great 15:26 < LMJ> my mail has been lost between france and Nottuln ;) 15:38 < rxr> snailmail ? 15:48 < LMJ> regular mail 15:48 < LMJ> you know 15:48 < LMJ> the one made of paper ;) 15:48 < rxr> snailmail ,-) 16:12 < CIA-7> rene * r18732 /trunk/package/develop/boomerang/ (boomerang.cache boomerang.conf progpath.patch): * fixed boomerang to work from installed system locations 16:49 < LMJ> hey rxr , do you have 10min to waste to help me to make 3 new packages i will maintain. They are both simple PERL network admin utils, but i don't know how deal with them 16:52 < rxr> sure 16:52 < rxr> best take a look into the various package/perl-* packages 16:52 < rxr> when it are normal cpan modules it is very simple\ 16:52 < rxr> just ordinary packages 16:52 < LMJ> hooOoo ;) 17:03 < LMJ> i can't find my pleasure rxr 17:04 < rxr> no good example ? 17:05 < LMJ> I would like to package "nikto" who can be divided in 2 parts : copy the .pl to /usr/bin and the "doc" folder to /usr/share/nikto or so 17:05 < rxr> well than do this: 17:05 < rxr> makeopt= 17:05 < rxr> makeinstopt= 17:05 < LMJ> almost the same for "logrotate" 17:05 < rxr> hook_append makeopt 5 "install nikito.pl $root$bindir/" 17:06 < rxr> hook_append makeopt 5 "install doc/* $root$docdir/" 17:12 < LMJ> i would like to SED a couple of line too ;) 17:14 < rxr> ouhm 17:14 < rxr> ah what shit have I posted there .. 17:14 < rxr> hook_append postmake of course 17:15 < rxr> hook_append postmake 5 "install nikito.pl $root$bindir/" 17:15 < rxr> hook_append postmake 5 "install doc/* $root$docdir/" 17:15 < rxr> hook_append inmake 5 "sed -i ..." 17:15 < rxr> or postmake with a lower priority whatever you prefer 17:16 < LMJ> ok thanks 17:16 < LMJ> I will check it out 17:54 < rxr> yay, fixed another outstanding sparc bug ,-) 17:56 < CIA-7> aldas * r18733 /branches/2.2/package/kde/koffice-i18n/shared-files.patch.koffice-l10n-es: 17:56 < CIA-7> * merged r18728 from trunk to branches/2.2: 17:56 < CIA-7> fixed shared file of koffice-i18n (koffice-l10n-es) 17:57 < CIA-7> rene * r18734 /trunk/architecture/sparc64/ (4 files): 17:57 < CIA-7> * patched the binutils linker (ld) to default to 32bit on sparc64 with 17:57 < CIA-7> 32bit user-land, as we do patch gcc. This actually fixes quite some 17:57 < CIA-7> packages, including the mozilla familly and exact-build based 17:57 < CIA-7> packages such as exact-image. 17:57 < rxr> Baldzius: can go into 2.2 -^ though only tested on the workstation I set in front, not in a whole build 17:58 < rxr> but I can power up the niagara the next days ... 17:58 < Baldzius> rxr: ack 17:58 < rxr> still need to carry it into the new office ,-) 17:59 < sepp> uname wrapper should return i686 on >pentium?? - as real uname does 17:59 < rxr> hm 17:59 < rxr> what does it return right now ? 17:59 < rxr> it should return what you configured your buld for 17:59 < rxr> build for 17:59 < sepp> uname -m i686, wrapper i386 17:59 < CIA-7> aldas * r18735 /branches/2.2/architecture/ (sparc/kernel.conf.m4 sparc64/kernel.conf.m4): 17:59 < CIA-7> * merged r18729 from trunk to branches/2.2: 17:59 < CIA-7> link the main RTC support into the sparc* kernels 17:59 < rxr> what do you optimize for ? 18:00 < sepp> athlon-xp 18:00 < rxr> architecture/x86# vi archtest.sh 18:00 < rxr> ^- could get some updates ,-) 18:00 < rxr> though it is not the cause of your issue 18:01 < rxr> in Build-Tools for the uname wrapper: 18:01 < rxr> arch=\$(echo \${arch_machine//-*/} | sed -e 's/sparcv.*/sparc/' -e 's/powerpc/ppc/') 18:01 < rxr> that should work, now? 18:01 < rxr> no? even 18:02 -!- Demian [n=demian@201.206.44.210] has joined #t2 18:02 < Demian> hi 18:02 < rxr> what is arch_machine set to inside your sandbox ? 18:02 < rxr> you could test using echo in a debug.sh shell 18:02 < rxr> hi Demian 18:02 [Users #t2] 18:02 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-7 ] [ LMJ] [ sepp ] [ tdi ] [ _Lewellyn] 18:02 [ Baldzius] [ Demian] [ rxr] [ shevegen] [ valentin] [ _Ragnar_ ] 18:02 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 11 normal] 18:03 < Demian> you guys know about a tool that could generate parity information about a file (particularly a disk image file). I want this to recover in case of file damage. 18:03 < sepp> no arch_machine 18:03 < sepp> hi Demian 18:03 < Demian> something like parity raids do, but i have no raid :) 18:03 < rxr> oehm, sure not ? 18:04 < sepp> yes, just tested it 18:04 < rxr> Demian: you mean like md5sum ? 18:04 < rxr> sepp: strange 18:04 < rxr> Demian: most Unix folks use md5sum and sha1 for that kind of stuff 18:04 < sepp> ohh, sorry wrong terminal, that is i686 :) 18:05 < Demian> sure, but afaik md5sums are usually to check if the file or data is corrupted, not to recover it, or yes? 18:05 < rxr> oh recover 18:05 < rxr> then you need the whole file of course ... 18:05 < rxr> then copy the whole file or disc, I usually gzip them 18:06 < rxr> bzip2 takes too long\ 18:06 < sepp> 3 monitors in front, showing terminals - picked the wrong one ;) 18:06 < rxr> if you want it extra fast and have space use lzo 18:06 < Demian> rxr: my images are created with partimage and gzipped. 18:07 < Demian> i know i could compress them using bzip2, and then use bzip2 recover if something fails, but that's not so useful, since most of time i backup whole file systems which won't work if I was able only to recover a portion of the whole disk. 18:08 < rxr> I think there is not a 18:08 < rxr> "simple" solution, you would need partition backups then 18:08 < rxr> otherwise you need to uncompress your image files and loop mount the partition from it 18:08 < rxr> sepp: and what does it reveal in the correct terminal ? 18:09 < rxr> oh sepp 18:09 < rxr> sorry that was from a not commit uname improvement patch ,-))) 18:09 < Demian> i expected something like two files for my disk backup: 1) the whole disk image, 2) another file with parity information about that disk image 18:09 < rxr> sepp: I commit it it fixes your problem and improves the sparc build which alters the 32 bit vs. 64 bti setting 18:10 < Demian> in raids, this parity is around 1/3 of the original disk image. 18:10 < sepp> rxr: arch_machine is correct, but arch2uname does sed s/x86$/i386/ 18:10 < Demian> but wanted a software solution, not a hardware one. 18:11 < CIA-7> rene * r18736 /trunk/scripts/ (Build-Tools parse-config): 18:11 < CIA-7> * further improved the uname wrapper to use arch_machine which 18:11 < CIA-7> is exported now. This reveals more fine grained information 18:11 < CIA-7> (like i686 vs. i386) and 64 vs. 32 bit architecture when altered 18:11 < CIA-7> (sparc64 builds) for broken packages relying on this info. 18:11 < rxr> sepp: -^ 18:12 < rxr> sorry was enqued due intensive testing ,-) 18:12 < sepp> :) 18:12 < rxr> but Baldzius was testing with it in his last builds also 18:12 < rxr> Baldzius: the uname wrapper improvement can go into 2.2, if that is the version you cross tested as well ,-))) 18:12 < rxr> let's see what treassures svn st reviels ,-) 18:16 < CIA-7> rene * r18737 /trunk/package/base/gmp/ (autotools.patch gmp.conf gmp.desc sparc.patch): 18:16 < CIA-7> * updated gmp (4.1.4 -> 4.2.1), from the mailing list, with sparc 18:16 < CIA-7> patch, lingering around since ages, appears to work so far 18:17 < rxr> btw. boomerang is quite cool, though it was not mature enough to decompile the ppc Sony atrac codec ,-) 18:18 < LMJ> #svn up -> svn: REPORT request failed on '/t2/!svn/vcc/default' svn: REPORT of '/t2/!svn/vcc/default': 400 Bad Request (http://svn.exactcode.de) 18:18 < LMJ> do you have an idea what this happens ? 18:18 < rxr> no 18:18 < rxr> ah 18:18 < rxr> maybe transparent firewall ? 18:19 < rxr> try to switch to https:// or svn:// 18:20 < rxr> my server works 18:20 < rxr> you quite shocked me ,-) 18:25 < sepp> :) 18:28 < CIA-7> rene * r18739 /trunk/package/zope/ploneicalendar/ploneicalendar.desc: * fixed ploneicalendar Url tag 18:42 < LMJ> i have a fw yes ;) 18:42 < LMJ> where should i change the URL now ? 18:42 < LMJ> since "svn up" should make the job alone 18:43 < rxr> svn switch --relocate http{,s}://svn.exactcode.de/t2/trunk 18:43 < rxr> in your t2 root 18:45 < LMJ> no no trunk 18:47 < LMJ> my proxy squid killed svn 18:48 < rxr> ack 18:48 < rxr> proxy as I named it 18:48 < rxr> squid can be patched to support WebDAV http extensions 18:49 < LMJ> ok thanks 18:49 < Demian> LMJ: proxy squid killed svn ? 18:49 -!- _Ragnar_ [i=loki@216.250.77.230] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:49 < LMJ> kicked svn ass ; 18:49 < LMJ> ;) 18:50 < Demian> what were u doing ? 18:50 < LMJ> nothing, i'm running a Squid proxy now, and since that setup it, svn can't updated anything 18:52 < Demian> transparent proxy, or user-defined proxy address? 18:53 < CIA-7> aldas * r18740 /branches/2.2/scripts/ (Build-Tools parse-config): 18:53 < CIA-7> * merged r18736 from trunk to branches/2.2: 18:53 < CIA-7> further improved the uname wrapper to use arch_machine which 18:53 < CIA-7> is exported now. This reveals more fine grained information 18:53 < CIA-7> (like i686 vs. i386) and 64 vs. 32 bit architecture when 18:53 < CIA-7> altered (sparc64 builds) for broken packages relying on this info. 18:54 < rxr> Baldzius: you diffed with the patch I gave you? 18:54 < rxr> I was not sure if the latest flavour was the same on the U30 and the Niagara(the later was not powered up)? 18:55 < Baldzius> rxr: no , but it looked very familiar 18:55 < rxr> hehe 18:55 * Baldzius is going to search for uname.patch 18:55 < rxr> Baldzius: well, will be fine 18:56 * rxr leaving te office in some secs, if someone wants to quickly bug me ... 19:01 * LMJ checked minimal & minimal-xorg and add a couple of new files in his own pkgsel, hope it will make the deal :-p 19:03 < LMJ> LOL 19:04 < LMJ> xorg-server was missing, i can understand why every X apps failed :-D 19:29 < CIA-7> chris * r18741 /trunk/package/python/psycopg/psycopg.desc: 19:29 < CIA-7> * updated psycopg (1.1.17 -> 1.1.21) 19:29 < CIA-7> * Note: Support for psycopg 1 has been discontinued! 19:31 < CIA-7> chris * r18742 /trunk/package/python/psycopg2/ (. psycopg2.cache psycopg2.desc): 19:31 < CIA-7> * added psycopg2 (2.0.2) - Python/PostgreSQL database adapter 19:31 < CIA-7> * Note: This is the currently supported stable version of psycopg! 19:38 -!- morfoh [n=morfoh@e178029025.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 19:38 < morfoh> moin 19:49 < Baldzius> hi morfoh :))) 19:50 < morfoh> Hey Baldzius my friend :))) 19:50 < Baldzius> :) 19:52 -!- _Ragnar_ [i=loki@216.250.77.230] has joined #t2 19:53 < _Ragnar_> rxr: why isn't the advanced router option selected by default in the kernel? o_o 20:10 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178151054.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 20:10 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.2 Branched! - trunk going for 2.3 | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/ 20:10 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Tue Jun 13 15:03:53 2006] 20:10 [Users #t2] 20:10 [@ChanServ] [ Demian] [ rxr ] [ shevegen] [ _Lewellyn] 20:10 [ Baldzius] [ LMJ ] [ rxr_] [ tdi ] [ _Ragnar_ ] 20:10 [ CIA-7 ] [ morfoh] [ sepp] [ valentin] 20:10 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal] 20:10 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004 20:10 -!- [freenode-info] if you need to send private messages, please register: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg 20:11 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 21 secs 20:14 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.147.34.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 20:15 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178169221.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 20:16 < CIA-7> chris * r18743 /trunk/package/python/dbutils/ (. dbutils.cache dbutils.desc): * added dbutils (0.9.1) - A suite of thread safe Python modules to connect to databases 20:28 < CIA-7> sebastian * r18744 /trunk/package/x11/glew/glew.conf: * fixed sed expression 20:30 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p83.129.178.114.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:31 -!- sepp_ is now known as sepp 20:35 < morfoh> wb sepp :) 20:36 < sepp> :) 20:36 < morfoh> :) 20:41 < CIA-7> sebastian * r18745 /trunk/package/multimedia/cinelerra/ (5 files): 20:41 < CIA-7> * updated cinelerra (2.0 -> 2.1) 20:41 < CIA-7> * removed obsolete gcc patches 20:56 < sepp> morfoh: btw, graphic_3D.modeling.choice - blender needs openexr now 20:57 < morfoh> sepp: hey ... thanks ;) 20:57 < morfoh> I'added ;) 21:21 < CIA-7> sebastian * r18746 /trunk/package/audio/audacious/ (audacious.desc cleanup.patch): * updated audacious (1.0.0 -> 1.1.1) 21:27 < CIA-7> rene * r18747 /trunk/package/develop/boomerang/boomerang.desc: * marked boomerang NOPARALLEL (for now) 21:29 < morfoh> sepp: are there important notes about the new audacious ? ;) 21:30 < morfoh> sepp: btw, openexr was added ... 21:30 < morfoh> ;) 21:32 < CIA-7> rene * r18748 /trunk/package/x11/xlockmore/pam.patch: * added forgotten pam patch to xlockmore 21:35 < sepp> needs taglib now 21:35 < sepp> well, i think it did before 21:39 < sepp> and still buggy :( 21:42 < morfoh> :( 21:44 < sepp> at least it does not need gtk1 or gstreamer or what not 21:45 < CIA-7> chris * r18749 /trunk/package/python/python-mysqldb/ (. python-mysqldb.cache python-mysqldb.desc): * added python-mysqldb (1.2.1_p2) - A Python interface for MySQL 21:52 < CIA-7> chris * r18750 /trunk/package/python/pygresql/ (. pygresql.cache pygresql.desc): * added pygresql (3.8.1) - A Python interface for PostgreSQL 22:33 -!- _Ragnar_ [i=loki@216.250.77.230] has quit ["reboot"] 22:45 -!- _Ragnar_ [i=loki@216.250.77.230] has joined #t2 23:32 -!- ojh [n=omer@71-221-77-1.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #t2 --- Log closed Tue Jul 25 00:00:47 2006