T2 IRC Log: 2006-07-01

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--- Log opened Sat Jul 01 00:00:49 2006
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05:08 < Baldzius> sepp: i will add esdl to non-updating-list next to pixie, plz feel free to extend that list
05:15 < CIA-4> aldas * r18256 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-games/gnome-games.desc: * updated gnome-games (2.14.2 -> 2.14.2.1)
05:33 < CIA-4> aldas * r18257 /trunk/package/network/bittorrent/bittorrent.desc: * updated bittorrent (4.20.0 -> 4.20.2)
05:33 < CIA-4> aldas * r18258 /trunk/package/editors/zile/zile.desc: * updated zile (2.2.13 -> 2.2.15)
05:34 < CIA-4> aldas * r18259 /trunk/package/base/linux26/linux26.desc:
05:34 < CIA-4> * updated linux26 (2.6.17.2 -> 2.6.17.3)
05:34 < CIA-4> * security update: CVE-2006-2934
05:41 < CIA-4> aldas * r18260 /trunk/package/mail/nullmailer/ (6 files):
05:41 < CIA-4> * updated nullmailer (1.02 -> 1.03)
05:41 < CIA-4> * updated copyright notes
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06:17 < CIA-4> aldas * r18261 /trunk/package/base/gperf/ (gperf-gcc4-compat.patch gperf.desc):
06:17 < CIA-4> * updated gperf (3.0.1 -> 3.0.2)
06:17 < CIA-4> * removed gperf-gcc4-compat.patch - obsolete
06:34 < CIA-4> aldas * r18262 /trunk/package/gnome2/nautilus-eiciel/nautilus-eiciel.desc: * updated nautilus-eiciel (0.9.1 -> 0.9.2)
06:51 < rxr> moin Baldzius
06:52 < Baldzius> hi rxr
06:52 < rxr> hi sepp
06:52 [Users #t2]
06:52 [@ChanServ] [ Demian] [ misl] [ sepp ] [ valentin ]
06:52 [ Baldzius] [ laj ] [ mtr ] [ sparc-kly] [ _Lewellyn]
06:52 [ CIA-4 ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ tdi ] [ _Ragnar_ ]
06:52 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal]
06:59 < rxr> Linux 2.6.16.23
07:02 < Baldzius> i thought you are going to use 2.6.17 in 2.2
07:03 < rxr> ouh
07:04 < rxr> Baldzius: yes, but maybe update to 2.6.16.x before
07:04 < rxr> we need to make sure all 3rd party modules bulid before
07:04 < rxr> /proc/cpuinfo format drives me crazzy ...
07:05 < Baldzius> rxr: i droped you a note, did you see it?
07:05 < rxr> oh, not registered ...
07:08 < rxr> you got my +1 ?
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07:10 < Baldzius> yes, so merge all 3 commits?
07:10 < Baldzius> not sure what "++1" means :)
07:12 < rxr> ack from my side ,-)
07:12 < Baldzius> ok, bbl
07:13 < rxr> and that one, too -v
07:13 < rxr> if CIA should be alive .... -v
07:14 < CIA-4> rene * r18263 /trunk/scripts/config.in:
07:14 < CIA-4> * the Niagara /proc/cpuinfo layout is yet again different, count
07:14 < CIA-4> sysfs cpu nodes instead
07:29 < rxr> finally a sparc that is not dog slow ... - formerly the faster sparc in the office was @360MHz ...
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07:40 < rxr> moin misl
07:41 < misl> morning rxr
07:50 < rxr> binutils built in 6m
07:50 < rxr> -> Parallel build using 24 jobs enabled.
07:51 < _Ragnar_> now gcc fails, but that's the linuxthreads missing the headers still
07:51 < _Ragnar_> o_o
07:53 < rxr> hm
07:55 < rxr> wanan fix that ?
07:55 < rxr> load average: 20.92, 10.87, 7.24
07:57 < _Ragnar_> I dunno how >.< don't even see why it doesn't happen for you
07:57 < rxr> noone uses linuxthreads ....
07:57 < _Ragnar_> how you work without threads?
07:58 < rxr> NPTL
07:58 < rxr> next generation native posix thread library
07:58 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p83.129.183.210.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2
07:58 < rxr> scales way better, way faster less overhead, ...
07:59 < rxr> you compile with linuxthreads for a reason, you have a 2.4 fileserver or so ?
07:59 < rxr> http://people.redhat.com/drepper/nptl-design.pdf
07:59 < rxr> ^- The Native POSIX Thread Library for Linux
08:00 < rxr> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NPTL
08:01 < _Ragnar_> yea this is 2.4
08:01 < rxr> but I would encourage you anyway to fix building with linuxthreads if there is a problem with it since the last glibc update ...
08:02 < _Ragnar_> ok o_o
08:02 < rxr> 0-gcc built in 9m
08:02 < _Ragnar_> ;P
08:02 < _Ragnar_> anyway, I need sleep
08:02 < _Ragnar_> nini
08:02 < rxr> n8 _Ragnar_
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08:32 < CIA-4> aldas * r18264 /branches/2.2/target/generic/pkgsel/10-minimal-xorg.in:
08:32 < CIA-4> * merged r18134 from trunk to branches/2.2:
08:32 < CIA-4> use twm as minimal-xorg window manager
08:34 < CIA-4> aldas * r18265 /branches/2.2/package/base/sysvinit/system.init:
08:34 < CIA-4> * merged r18135 from trunk to branches/2.2:
08:34 < CIA-4> fixed sysvinit/system to activate swap after mounting local
08:34 < CIA-4> filesystems so swapfiles actually work
08:35 < CIA-4> aldas * r18266 /branches/2.2/package/base/glibc32/glibc32.conf:
08:35 < CIA-4> * merged r18191 from trunk to branches/2.2:
08:35 < CIA-4> fixed glibc32 by resetting libdir as appropriate
08:36 < rxr> hm, in some package, such as glibc with this massive makefile junk (where make usually is slow enough) it quite serializes the niagara build, since a single make instance is often computing dependencies and the like for some seconds :-(
08:37 < CIA-4> aldas * r18267 /branches/2.2/package/gnome2/gnome-games/gnome-games.desc:
08:37 < CIA-4> * merged r18256 from trunk to branches/2.2:
08:37 < CIA-4> updated gnome-games (2.14.2 -> 2.14.2.1)
08:40 < CIA-4> aldas * r18268 /branches/2.2/package/gnome2/nautilus-eiciel/nautilus-eiciel.desc:
08:40 < CIA-4> * merged r18262 from trunk to branches/2.2:
08:40 < CIA-4> updated nautilus-eiciel (0.9.1 -> 0.9.2)
08:42 < rxr> Linux 2.6.17.3
08:42 < rxr> oh, already there ,-)
08:42 < rxr> Baldzius is fast ,-)
08:43 < Baldzius> :)
08:44 < Baldzius> rxr: can you test mythtv? it compiled not long time ago but now it doesn't, and there are no changes since long time
08:44 < Baldzius> don't get it what it could be related to
08:48 < rxr> Baldzius: trunk or 2.2 or both ?
08:48 < Baldzius> should be both
08:48 < rxr> ok, I try emerge on my fresh x86 install ...
08:55 < valentin> moin
08:55 < Baldzius> hi valentin
08:55 < valentin> hi Baldzius
08:58 < rxr> Baldzius: what is your build error ?
08:58 < rxr> hey valentin!
08:59 < Baldzius> rxr: it builds for you?
08:59 < Baldzius> it can't find -lXext
09:00 < rxr> ack
09:00 < rxr> and trying to use distcc on it's own
09:00 < rxr> I disable that as well
09:02 < Baldzius> but it compiled not long time ago, don't remember but about 3 months ago for sure
09:03 * rxr fixing
09:09 < CIA-4> aldas * r18269 /branches/2.2/package/mail/dovecot/dovecot.desc:
09:09 < CIA-4> * merged r18216 from trunk to branches/2.2:
09:09 < CIA-4> updated dovecot (1.0beta8 -> 1.0rc1)
09:19 < rxr> Baldzius: I think mythtv is even due uname wrapper ... ,-)
09:30 < CIA-4> rene * r18270 /trunk/package/multimedia/mythtv/ (mythtv.conf uname.patch):
09:30 < CIA-4> * fixed mythtv to not interprete stderr of uname
09:30 < CIA-4> * fixed mythtv to not try to use distcc just because it is there
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09:37 < Baldzius> in that case there can be more besides cmake
09:39 < rxr> I already fixed some others when I implemented the uname wrapper
09:39 < rxr> stuff left right now are only toys not widely used ...
09:41 < Baldzius> ic
10:04 < sepp_> moin :)
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10:06 < sepp> Baldzius: i do not mean a "non-updating-list" but if it is untested and does not work, why update?
10:10 < rxr> top - 10:13:35 up 3:12, 4 users, load average: 25.21, 12.09, 5.55
10:10 < sepp> :D
10:11 < rxr> on a 24 cpu box ...
10:12 < sepp> on a 1 cpu box you could not write it at load 25
10:12 < rxr> lovely spread across the cores ...
10:12 < rxr> let's see how long 1-linux26 needs on that box ...
10:15 < sepp> 10 minutes because of dics lag :P
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10:18 < sireficuL> hi rxr
10:19 < rxr> hi sireficuL
10:29 < rxr> sepp: 20m, but completely uncached with ccache enabled writing the result to disk
10:33 < sepp> hehe
10:37 < rxr> mostly the serial tarball extraction at the beginning is killing the bild time, the box is running at 1GHz ....
10:37 < rxr> but x24 ,-)
10:38 < rxr> maybe if one would mix some sparc64 assembly in bzip2 ...
10:45 < rxr> bbl
10:56 < Baldzius> hi sepp, i physically can't test all commits in runtime nor anywho is doing that here so i prefer using "non-updating-list" to avoid such misunderstandings in the future
10:58 < sepp> hi Baldzius :)
11:36 < rxr> re
12:26 < rxr> valentin: on trunk I patched gcc to support special -mcpu=niagara optimization ...
12:26 < rxr> the box soon will have that GCC installed ...
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14:47 [Users #t2]
14:47 [@ChanServ] [ Demian] [ misl] [ sepp ] [ sparc-kly] [ _Lewellyn]
14:47 [ Baldzius] [ laj ] [ mtr ] [ shevegen ] [ tdi ] [ _Ragnar_ ]
14:47 [ CIA-4 ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ sireficuL] [ valentin ]
14:47 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal]
15:14 < Baldzius> -> Building loop-aes within linux26 (using postlinux.conf).
15:14 < Baldzius> -> Building zaptel within linux26 (using postlinux.conf).
15:14 < Baldzius> -> Building nvidia within linux26 (using postlinux.conf).
15:14 < Baldzius> -> Building lirc within linux26 (using postlinux.conf).
15:14 < Baldzius> *> Failed building lirc.
15:14 < Baldzius> -> Building unionfs within linux26 (using postlinux.conf).
15:14 < Baldzius> -> Building sn9c102 within linux26 (using postlinux.conf).
15:14 < Baldzius> -> Building acx100 within linux26 (using postlinux.conf).
15:14 < Baldzius> -> Building adm8211 within linux26 (using postlinux.conf).
15:14 < Baldzius> -> Building at76c503a within linux26 (using postlinux.conf).
15:14 < Baldzius> -> Building madwifi within linux26 (using postlinux.conf).
15:14 < Baldzius> -> Building ndiswrapper within linux26 (using postlinux.conf).
15:14 < Baldzius> -> Building rt2500 within linux26 (using postlinux.conf).
15:14 < Baldzius> -> Building rt2570 within linux26 (using postlinux.conf).
15:14 < Baldzius> -> Building slmodem within linux26 (using postlinux.conf).
15:14 < Baldzius> -> Compiler Cache Hits while pkg build: 95.27% (5132 hits, 255 misses)
15:14 < Baldzius> rxr: --^ 2.6.17.3
15:14 < Baldzius> sorry for spam :)
16:19 < rxr> no problem
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16:33 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.2 Branched! - trunk going for 2.3 | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/
16:33 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Tue Jun 13 15:03:53 2006]
16:33 [Users #t2]
16:33 [@ChanServ] [ Demian] [ misl] [ rxr_ ] [ sireficuL] [ valentin ]
16:33 [ Baldzius] [ laj ] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ sparc-kly] [ _Lewellyn]
16:33 [ CIA-4 ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ shevegen] [ tdi ] [ _Ragnar_ ]
16:33 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 18 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal]
16:33 -!- [freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
16:33 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004
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17:01 < rxr> Baldzius: I just fix the sparc64 build error in linux26 trunk in 3rd party modules
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17:27 < rxr> hi Demian
17:27 [Users #t2]
17:27 [@ChanServ] [ Demian] [ mtr ] [ shevegen ] [ tdi ] [ _Ragnar_]
17:27 [ Baldzius] [ laj ] [ rxr ] [ sireficuL] [ valentin ]
17:27 [ CIA-4 ] [ LMJ ] [ sepp] [ sparc-kly] [ _Lewellyn]
17:27 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal]
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17:40 < CIA-4> rene * r18271 /trunk/package/editors/vim/desc.patch: * updated vim .desc rules file once again
17:45 < CIA-4> rene * r18272 /trunk/package/network/adm8211/linux-2.6.17.patch: * fixed adm8211 for linux-2.6.17, at least for sparc64, trivial dma include
17:46 < CIA-4> rene * r18273 /trunk/package/network/at76c503a/linux-2.6.17.patch: * fixed at76c503a for linux-2.6.17, MODULE_PARM -> module_param
17:47 < rxr> Baldzius: I wonder why those packages built for you, strange
17:48 < CIA-4> rene * r18274 /trunk/package/ (base/gettext/gettext.desc shells/bash/bash.desc):
17:48 < CIA-4> * removed NOPARALLEL marks from bash and gettext, built fine on a
17:48 < CIA-4> 24 cpu box with -j 24, I hope they got fixed upstream already -
17:48 < CIA-4> if there still is an issuee with those let's fix the real cause
17:48 < CIA-4> the next time
17:49 < CIA-4> rene * r18275 /trunk/package/filesystem/unionfs/linux-2.6.17-sparc.patch: * fixed unionfs for linux-2.6.17 on sparc64
17:49 < rxr> Baldzius: lirc is not in my desktop set
17:50 < rxr> Baldzius: here on sparc64 desktop build all again
17:50 < rxr> Baldzius: maybe you have a second to lurk into the lirc package? I hope it is something trivial
17:50 < rxr> otherwise just drop a note and I schedule it ,-)
17:59 < rxr> == 17:47:47 =[1]=> Building base/linux26 [2.6.17.3 2.3-trunk].
17:59 < rxr> == 07/01/06 18:01:40 =[1]=> Finished building package linux26.
17:59 < rxr> ^- -j 24 out of the ccache ,-)
17:59 < rxr> -> Compiler Cache Hits while pkg build: 98.57% (4138 hits, 60 misses)
17:59 < rxr> T1 & T2 rock
18:00 < rxr> how long did I say does a core-duo @2GHz need? 17m ?
18:00 < rxr> so - /me away - cu
18:20 < Baldzius> rxr: they didn't , i just wanted to show you that i almost fixed all modules for 2.6.17
18:22 < Baldzius> lirc package shouldn't be hard to fix, i made the patch but looks like useless
18:22 < Baldzius> need to take a closer look
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18:36 < rxr> Baldzius: you had fixes locally? then I fear we did some duplicate work :-(
18:38 < Baldzius> rxr: you have all fixes? as you noticed i have only lirc problem
18:40 < Baldzius> i can commit : zaptel, slmodem, rt2500 and rt2570
18:40 < Baldzius> i fixed unionfs updating to 1.3
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19:59 < CIA-4> aldas * r18276 /trunk/package/multimedia/lirc/ (4 files):
19:59 < CIA-4> * fixed lirc for linux-2.6.17, added linux-2.6.17.patch and
19:59 < CIA-4> include-dir.patch
20:03 < CIA-4> aldas * r18277 /trunk/package/network/zaptel/ (split_make_install.patch zaptel.desc):
20:03 < CIA-4> * updated zaptel (1.2.5 -> 1.2.6)
20:03 < CIA-4> * adapted split_make_install.patch for new version
20:03 < rxr> re
20:08 < CIA-4> aldas * r18278 /trunk/package/network/slmodem/linux-2.6.17.patch: * fixed slmodem for linux-2.6.17
20:08 < Baldzius> rxr: what about rt2500 and rt2570, should i commit or you?
20:25 < rxr> yep, please commit
20:26 < rxr> Baldzius: if you want please update unionfs as well
20:31 < Baldzius> rxr: ok
20:41 < CIA-4> rene * r18279 /trunk/package/sparc/silo/silo.conf: * fixed silo for cross builds
20:42 < rxr> now that took longer than it shoudl have to garsp ...
20:43 < CIA-4> aldas * r18280 /trunk/package/network/rt2500/ (7 files):
20:43 < CIA-4> * fixed rt2500 for linux-2.6.17
20:43 < CIA-4> * adapted eth-naming.patch
20:43 < CIA-4> * updated copyright notes
20:44 < CIA-4> aldas * r18281 /trunk/package/network/rt2570/ (10 files):
20:44 < CIA-4> * fixed rt2570 for linux-2.6.17
20:44 < CIA-4> * adapted eth-naming.patch
20:44 < CIA-4> * updated copyright notes
20:53 < rxr> CIA is laggy like h**l ... :-(((
20:53 < rxr> so, n8 all
20:53 < rxr> have fun
20:55 < _Ragnar_> gn8 =) u 2
21:08 < CIA-4> rene * r18282 /trunk/architecture/sparc64/ (config.in gcc-options.in parse-config):
21:08 < CIA-4> * saner and more like the other architecture a-like optimization
21:08 < CIA-4> settings for sparc64, including a new ultrasparc3 and niagara
21:08 < CIA-4> option
21:12 < sepp> rt2* will freeze your box if you have smp enabled - without smp at least 2500 works like a car with one wheel :)
21:17 < sepp> on my laptop it works ok if it is monday or if it is full moon and you sacrifice a chicken
21:21 < Baldzius> :)
21:21 < sepp> no offense ;)
21:21 < Baldzius> for me i need it to compile with 2.6.17, nothing else
21:22 < Baldzius> and do i enabled smtg?? like smp?
21:22 < sepp> no - just a note
21:22 < Baldzius> oh
21:25 < sepp> i do not want to offend you for making it compile with 2.6.17.*
21:30 < Baldzius> i get it , just got out of hothouse (bath) so hardly orientate in space :)
21:31 < shevegen> lol
21:31 < Baldzius> gn8 :)
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