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07:34 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.2 Branched! - trunk going for 2.3 | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/
07:34 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Tue Jun 13 15:03:53 2006]
07:34 [Users #t2]
07:34 [@ChanServ] [ dsoul ] [ LMJ   ] [ mtr ] [ sparc-kly] [ _Ragnar__] 
07:34 [ Baldzius] [ idealm] [ mipe_ ] [ rene] [ tdi      ] 
07:34 [ CIA-4   ] [ laj   ] [ mnemoc] [ sepp] [ valentin ] 
07:34 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal]
07:34 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug  8 19:15:33 2004
07:34 -!- [freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
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07:36 -!- You're now known as rxr
08:30 < rxr> re
08:50 < Baldzius> hi rxr
08:51 < rxr> hi Baldzius 
09:02 < rxr> http://golem.de/0606/46001.html
09:02 < rxr> ^- cool, tough they misinterpreted my naigara comments in the release announcement
09:02 < rxr> out of "contains all patches, shoudl work - tested on U5 and U30" became "runs on Niagara" - but well, I'll not complain ,-)
09:04 < Baldzius> :)))
09:05 < rxr> f*ck, and gsmp is down again
09:06 < rxr> I hate this uni, really ...
09:06 < rxr> most probably someome slapped the network wire once again ...
09:07 < Baldzius> :))))
09:07 < Baldzius> rxr: what we miss for 2.2.0 tag?
09:08 < Baldzius> and is someone working on 2.6.17 update?
09:08 < sepp> e.g. e-modules working with lib64 ;)
09:09 < Baldzius> :)
09:09 < Baldzius> hi sepp
09:09 < sepp> hi Baldzius 
09:12 < rxr> Baldzius: not much
09:13 < rxr> maybe wait the week end tag when the builds are all ready ?
09:13 < rxr> also Sun claims to hand be a Niagara Test system for some days, if it arrives the next days it might be worth waiting if T2 really runs on it now so we have it for real in the 2.2.0 announcement
09:13 < sepp> i have no *64 but i heared yesterday that it is still broken
09:16 < sepp> heard*
09:17 < CIA-4> rene * r18055 /branches/2.2/package/base/glibc/sparc.patch: 
09:17 < CIA-4> * merge single patch fix for glibc on sparc* from glibc CVS to
09:17 < CIA-4>  branches/2.2 (fixed in trunk by a major glibc update)
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09:53 < rxr> yes I'm on a linux26 update
09:53 < rxr> in fact my sparc64 ISO already was built with it
09:53 < rxr> (2.6.17-rcX) I commit it when the U30 finished 1-linux26  with 2.6.17.0
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10:03 < sherniux> Baldzius
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11:06 < morfoh> moin
11:10 < MusiFreq> anyone know how to script wget as to only show the progess bar?
11:11 < rxr> MusiFreq: tried curl already ?
11:11 < MusiFreq> nope
11:12 < MusiFreq> will do, thanks
11:35 < rxr> if zou have flash: http://www.petsematary.de/
11:36 < mipe_> how i just love ldap testing :)
11:37 < mipe_> pc next to me can connect normally but then one next to it cant. same settings and all
11:46 < rxr> poor boy
11:55 < CIA-4> rene * r18056 /trunk/package/base/linux26/ (12-conf-hacks.patch linux26.desc unbreak-advansys-scsi.patch): 
11:55 < CIA-4> * updated linux26 (2.6.16.20 -> 2.6.17), built in minimal sparc64,
11:55 < CIA-4>  third party modules might needs tweaking
11:57 < mnemoc> rxr: oh, did you seriously proposed twm as minimal-x wm? :)  "[13:31:47] <rxr> well, I do not know anyone who would like to use twm if not forced with a gun or so ..." :p
11:58 < rxr> I like the fluxbox default theme neither
11:58 < rxr> if is is too much diversity a very minimal, classic compromise might be the best solution
11:58 < rxr> and let minimal desktop add more
12:01 < mnemoc> *nods*
12:01 < mnemoc> that was my thought when i mention it yesterday
12:02 < mnemoc> most people is used to have twm 'available' because it has always been there
12:02 < mnemoc> so it's not "another wm" installed on your machine if you use minimal-x to strap your own desktop
12:02 < mnemoc> .oO( strap? )o
12:22 < rxr> Frozen Chip from IBM hits 500 GHz
12:22 < rxr> http://hardware.slashdot.org/hardware/06/06/20/127248.shtml
12:26 < mnemoc> rxr: is the initrd flushing /etc/mtab ?
12:34 < rxr> don|t think so
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13:03 < valentin> hi
13:03 < mnemoc> wb valentin 
13:03 < mnemoc> .oO( any news about minto? )o
13:12 < MusiFreq> how do i return a bash scripts parameters from within a function (not the function's parameters)?
13:13 < mnemoc> MusiFreq: return $foo, with $foo been a number, and then you catch it with $?
13:14 < mnemoc> MusiFreq: or using stdout/stdin.... a simple `echo`
13:14 < mnemoc> MusiFreq: but, there is nice bash guide and a #bash channel. this is #t2, mostly about T2
13:16 < MusiFreq> mnemoc: can i pm you quick?
13:16 < mnemoc> do i have any alternative?
13:17 < MusiFreq> yeah sorry
13:17 < mnemoc> do it
13:23 < MusiFreq> nevermind, my name isnt registered
13:24 -!- MusiFreq is now known as `axion
13:26 < mnemoc> oh, the american of the mirror :)
13:28 < `axion> yeah, unfortunately i dont have an account anymore because they lost all my data
13:28 < `axion> trying to identify....its not working
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13:33 < CIA-4> amery * r18057 /trunk/package/base/linux26/linux26.desc: * updated linux26 (2.6.17 -> 2.6.17.1)
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13:34 < mnemoc> Baldzius: ^--- sorry, i couldn't resist
13:35 < `axion> is nickserv down?
13:35 < Baldzius> no problem mnemoc :)
13:35 < mnemoc> `axion: /msg nickserv help
13:35 < mnemoc> Baldzius: :)
13:35 < `axion> did that...get nothing
13:36 < mnemoc> i did
13:36 < `axion> weird
13:36 < mnemoc> maybe the funny character you use in front?
13:36 -!- `axion is now known as axion2
13:37 < axion2> nothing from chanserv either
13:37 < axion2> my irssi is probably screwed
13:39 < axion2> mnemoc, could you refer me to a site that explains how to get the script parameters with $? in a function....google is not helping
13:40 < mnemoc> $? contains the returned value of the last function or binary executed
13:40 < mnemoc> it's has to be a number, and you can catch it with error=$?  right after executing the function/binary
13:41 < axion2> right i got that much
13:43 < axion2> not sure how thats gonna get me the main script's parameters like you said before
13:46 < mnemoc> $? is for catching the return value, not for receiving arguments
13:46 < axion2> thats what you said before
13:47 < mnemoc> for receiving you use $# $1 $2 ...
13:47 < mnemoc> shift, etc...
13:47 < axion2> i need to get the script's parameters within a function...but not the functions parameters
13:47 < mnemoc> but you should really read the advanced bash guide
13:47 < axion2> i have it printed out....going through it like crazy
13:52 < axion2> i dont think its possible...gotta rewrite my functions
13:52 < axion2> thanks for the help
13:54 < mnemoc> what is not poosible?
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14:11 < sherniux> Baldzius
14:12 < sherniux> karoche uzhsakeu toki koki tu sakei ish gnt
14:12 < sherniux> ryt turesiu
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14:15 < CIA-4> rene * r18058 /branches/2.2/package/base/linux26/linux26.desc: * updated linux26 (2.6.16.20 -> 2.6.16.21)
14:37 < valentin> http://sport.ard.de/sp/layout/php/ticker/index.phtml?event=5834&seite=ticker&tid=960&xts=38360488
14:37 < valentin> live ticker in infinite loop ;)
14:39 < valentin> or maybe the commentator does not know how to use his computer
14:43 < valentin> now they fixed it
14:56 < CIA-4> amery * r18059 /trunk/package/base/module-init-tools/module-init-tools.conf: * cleaned module-init-tools by setting prefix instead of using hardcoded paths
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16:21 < rxr> the U30@290MHz-3xxMB is about 2h faster building linux26 than the U5@270MHz-256MB, 5h instead of 7h
17:42 < mnemoc> rxr: does your last embedded x86 build nvi, e2fsprogs and/or reiserfsprogs?
17:49 < LMJ> moin moin
17:49 < mnemoc> moin LMJ 
17:49 < LMJ> where i could grab a tar.gz from 2.1.1.1 repository ?
17:49 < LMJ> hello mnemoc 
17:50 < LMJ> how are you ?
17:50 < mnemoc> http://dl.geeks.cl/t2/src/t2-2.1.1.1.tar.bz2
17:50 < rxr> mnemoc: no idea
17:51 < LMJ> thanks mnemoc 
17:51 < LMJ> mnemoc : can i see it on the t2 website ? i can't find it 
17:51 < mnemoc> LMJ: there is a link
17:52 < mnemoc> LMJ: first line of http://www.t2-project.org/download.html
17:52 < LMJ> my BAD
17:53 < LMJ> sorry for disturbing
17:53 < mnemoc> no problem :)
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18:01 [ Baldzius] [ idealm] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly] [ _Ragnar__] 
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19:47 < LMJ> WTF, ffmpeg depends of "Tetex"  
19:47 < mnemoc> :D
19:47 < mnemoc> documentantion?
19:48 < LMJ> don't know
19:48 < LMJ> i'm running a minimalist web server
19:48 < LMJ> I'm wondering why i need tetex install
19:49 < LMJ> this crap use 360Mo on my HD
19:49 < LMJ> MB*
19:50 < CIA-4> amery * r18060 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/patches/pkg_kbd.patch: * fixed kbd to build against dietlibc - use strrchr() instead of rindex()
19:51 < mnemoc> LMJ: Emerge-Pkg? :)
19:53 < LMJ> mine -rf tetex  starting to itch my fingers
19:54 < _Ragnar__> I'd think you don't
19:54 < mnemoc> LMJ: if you plan to make something with Emerge-Pkg, run it -dry-mode, see the *reasonable* dependencies, and then run it with -deps=none
19:54 < mnemoc> LMJ: or make a real target
19:55 < LMJ> yes
19:56 < CIA-4> amery * r18061 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/patches/pkg_reiserfsprogs.patch: * partially fixed dietlib/reiserfsprogs by using a function prototype intead of the typedef __compar_fn_t
20:27 < tdi> anybody with ciso knowledge?
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21:05 < rxr> hi sepp
21:06  * mnemoc hits his head against reiserfsporgs
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22:12 < sepp> hello ;)
22:14 < mnemoc> wb sepp 
22:14 < sepp> hi mnemoc 
22:18 < sepp> rxr: loop-aes works even with 2.6.17.1 - was there maybe some collision with an other 3rd party mod i do not use?
22:23 < sepp> i prefer that, and i do not plan to throw my backups away in 8 weeks (when the mainline kernel hackers decide to implement the 23rd generation of a new incompatible encryption scheme)
22:35 < sepp> the in kernel fs encryption always was a mess with linux :/
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23:24 < shevegen> hi
23:26 < sepp> hi shevegen 
23:27 < shevegen> Does T2 use a forum?
23:28 < sepp> no, but it has a mailing list
23:30 < shevegen> well IRC should be fine enough to hang out in a corner if I'll get some free beer maybe :-)
23:31 < shevegen> it took me some time to figure out that T2 is different
23:33 < sepp> the mailing list is t2@t2-project.org
23:34 < sepp> in case you want to mail something ...
23:47 < sepp> good night #t2 
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