T2 IRC Log: 2006-06-10

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--- Log opened Sat Jun 10 00:00:06 2006
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01:18 < keinek> hi
01:40 * Lucifer_arma is back.
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05:07 < floyd_n_milan> i can't get libxfont to install..
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05:29 < Baldzius> good morning
05:29 < Baldzius> floyd_n_milan: what it sais?
05:31 < floyd_n_milan> hello
05:31 < floyd_n_milan> ok i'll have to type everything, no gpm, bear with me
05:31 < Baldzius> :)
05:32 < floyd_n_milan> consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH variable if you installed the software in a non-standard prefix.
05:33 < floyd_n_milan> then it tells me to alternatively set the FONTCACHEPROTO_CFLAGS and FONTCACHEPROTO_LIBS envvars to avoid the need to call pkg-config
05:34 < floyd_n_milan> and the error log
05:34 < floyd_n_milan> hmm in ./configure, it checks for FONTCACHEPROTO and fails
05:34 < Baldzius> looks like you are missing fontcacheproto
05:34 < floyd_n_milan> shouldn't it resolve such dependancies?
05:35 < floyd_n_milan> and yeah, thanks, i realised that after checking the error log
05:35 < Baldzius> what are you doing?
05:35 < floyd_n_milan> duh, i should be smarter
05:35 < floyd_n_milan> oh im installing xorg
05:35 < Baldzius> Emerge-Pkg?
05:36 < floyd_n_milan> yeah
05:36 < Baldzius> next time try with -deps=indirect option
05:37 < floyd_n_milan> is there a man a
05:37 < floyd_n_milan> page for the script?
05:37 < floyd_n_milan> -a*
05:38 < Baldzius> hm not sure for man but you can look inside Emerge-Pkg for more options , it's is pure bash
05:38 < Baldzius> ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg
05:38 < floyd_n_milan> okies, thanks
05:43 < floyd_n_milan> is there a way to check reverse dependancies, like the names of the packages that depend upon the given package?
05:43 < floyd_n_milan> i can only find -d with mine..
05:44 < Baldzius> grep "\[DEP\] _package_" package/*/*/*.cache
05:51 < CIA-7> aldas * r17879 /trunk/package/develop/cvs/cvs.desc:
05:51 < CIA-7> * updated cvs (1.11.19 -> 1.11.22)
05:51 < CIA-7> * changed download url
05:58 < floyd_n_milan> hmmm a few spelling errors in the documentation..
05:58 < floyd_n_milan> Baldzius: does the [DEP] show packages depending on the package or the packages on which the package depends?
05:59 < Baldzius> first one
05:59 < floyd_n_milan> and in my case, expat doesn't install because apparently apr-util is blocking it and expat is in the [DEP] list of apr-util
05:59 < floyd_n_milan> blocking it meaning, sharing the same output files..
06:01 < Baldzius> a min, i'll check
06:02 < Baldzius> no problem for me
06:02 < floyd_n_milan> ok wait
06:02 < Baldzius> floyd_n_milan: everytime you are installing new package make sure it is enabled in your package list
06:03 < floyd_n_milan> ooh
06:03 < Baldzius> floyd_n_milan: no problem here with apr and expat
06:03 < floyd_n_milan> using the Config script?
06:03 < Baldzius> yes
06:03 < floyd_n_milan> aha
06:03 < Baldzius> X _package_
06:03 < floyd_n_milan> okies, thanks for that info!
06:03 * floyd_n_milan just started working on T2 yesterday...
06:04 < Baldzius> also not always information grepping *.cache files is correct especially on trunk , we are updating cache files from time to time
06:05 < floyd_n_milan> ok, so i sync often... ?
06:05 < floyd_n_milan> ok another question
06:05 < Baldzius> no, just a note that do not believe blindly whatgrep sais
06:05 < Baldzius> sure
06:06 < floyd_n_milan> say i change the Config to change my system and the package list..
06:06 < floyd_n_milan> would an update system or something install all the extra packages i've selected or something?
06:06 < floyd_n_milan> or do i install them manually?
06:06 < floyd_n_milan> and okies about grep
06:08 < Baldzius> no, when package is enabled it uses some extra options, you can enable all packages in config it won't affect your system
06:10 < Baldzius> well maybe a little, but if you have a running system it shouldn't much
06:11 < Baldzius> well i have enabled all packages and i am sure that all packages i am installing is enabled
06:12 < Baldzius> i hope the feature not letting ppl install disabled (not enabled) packages will be in 2.3
06:13 < floyd_n_milan> wait..
06:14 < floyd_n_milan> i am on a custom system, not the standard or desktop one
06:14 < floyd_n_milan> it doesn't have any xorg and stuff
06:14 < floyd_n_milan> and i need to install it
06:14 < floyd_n_milan> so is it necessary that i modify the profile and enable all those packages and then install them?
06:15 < Baldzius> yes
06:15 < floyd_n_milan> ok so i choose the system im running as the target system, change the package selection and then emerge the packages manually, right?
06:16 < Baldzius> as i said you can enable all packages and do Emerge-Pkg -dryn-run -deps=indirect xorg-server
06:16 < floyd_n_milan> aaah okies
06:16 < floyd_n_milan> that'll be easier yeah!
06:16 < Baldzius> -dry-run is good option
06:16 < floyd_n_milan> ok cool!
06:16 < floyd_n_milan> thanks Baldzius
06:16 < Baldzius> welcome :)
06:17 < floyd_n_milan> i'll do a fresh install and work on it properly, i'll catch you in a few hours if you're still here
06:17 < floyd_n_milan> thanks :D
06:17 < floyd_n_milan> bye
06:17 < Baldzius> cu
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06:20 < CIA-7> aldas * r17880 /trunk/package/gnome2/glibmm/glibmm.desc: * updated glibmm (2.10.3 -> 2.10.4)
06:20 < CIA-7> aldas * r17881 /trunk/package/gnome2/gstreamer/ (gstreamer-pkg.conf gstreamer.desc):
06:20 < CIA-7> * updated gstreamer (0.10.6 -> 0.10.7)
06:20 < CIA-7> * updated copyright
06:21 < CIA-7> aldas * r17882 /trunk/package/gnome2/gst-plugins-base/gst-plugins-base.desc: * updated gst-plugins-base (0.10.7 -> 0.10.8)
06:22 < CIA-7> aldas * r17883 /trunk/package/base/sdparm/sdparm.desc: * updated sdparm (0.98 -> 0.99)
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06:22 < floyd_n_milan> Baldzius: another question..
06:23 < CIA-7> aldas * r17884 /trunk/package/develop/mod_mono/ (mod_mono.conf mod_mono.desc):
06:23 < CIA-7> * downdated mod_mono (1.1.14 -> 1.1.13.5) to the latest stable
06:23 < CIA-7> * added support for apr*-1.x
06:24 < Baldzius> yes
06:26 < floyd_n_milan> ok after installation, i check out the trunk tree.. using svn co
06:27 < floyd_n_milan> to sync the tree, i use the same command on the downloaded tree right?
06:28 < Baldzius> yes, you can use "svn up" inside it
06:28 < floyd_n_milan> okies good.. i knew svn up
06:28 < floyd_n_milan> thanks
06:28 < floyd_n_milan> c ya from the new install :)
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06:32 < CIA-7> aldas * r17885 /trunk/package/base/bison/ (bison.conf bison.desc disable-examples.patch):
06:32 < CIA-7> * updated bison (2.1 -> 2.3)
06:32 < CIA-7> * adapted disable-examples.patch for new version
06:32 < CIA-7> * updated copyright
06:34 < CIA-7> aldas * r17886 /trunk/package/base/util-linux/ (10 files):
06:34 < CIA-7> * updated util-linux (2.12q -> 2.12r)
06:34 < CIA-7> * updated copyright
06:34 < Baldzius> rxr: --^ cfdisk doesn't segfault with this version
06:39 < Baldzius> rxr: koffice 1.5.1 error i have : http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/bYOnJe47.html
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09:04 < floyd_n_milan> Baldzius: you there?
09:04 < Baldzius> yes
09:04 < mnemoc> wb floyd_n_milan
09:04 < mnemoc> moin Baldzius
09:04 < Baldzius> hi mnemoc :)
09:04 < floyd_n_milan> ah hello mnemoc
09:05 < floyd_n_milan> im working on entvoice right now
09:05 < mnemoc> floyd_n_milan: great :)
09:05 < floyd_n_milan> mnemoc: i've installed 0.5 and am wondering how i'm to sync the t2-src..
09:06 < mnemoc> floyd_n_milan: i don't think it's a good idea con convert that installation into a desktop :p
09:06 < mnemoc> floyd_n_milan: but if you are having fun with that, go :)
09:06 < floyd_n_milan> hmmm ok
09:08 < mnemoc> it's safer to build something for 'desktop' directly
09:08 < floyd_n_milan> hmm
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09:18 < morfoh> hi
09:18 < Baldzius> floyd_n_milan: theorycally mnemoc is right but in prantice i have my desktop system built on minimal template and had no problems ever
09:18 < Baldzius> moin morfoh
09:19 < morfoh> moin Baldzius :)
09:19 < morfoh> Baldzius: how are you these days ?
09:19 < Baldzius> morfoh: as always, and you ? :)
09:21 < morfoh> Baldzius: I'm quite fine ... thx ;)
09:21 < mnemoc> Baldzius: but doing that is not straigt forweard :p
09:22 < Baldzius> oh , me enjoying first day of summer 20C here
09:22 < mnemoc> :D
09:22 < Baldzius> last days it barely reached 16
09:22 < Baldzius> damn this summer is cold
09:22 < Baldzius> here
09:22 < morfoh> Baldzius: cold ?
09:22 < Baldzius> 16 is cold for me :)
09:23 < floyd_n_milan> hmm
09:23 < morfoh> Baldzius: yeah ... but you're closer to sibiria than me
09:23 < morfoh> :p
09:23 < Baldzius> :)))))
09:23 < mnemoc> :D
09:29 < rxr> moinn
09:30 < rxr> Baldzius: there is no error in the koffice log
09:30 < rxr> the Makefile stuff are just warnings
09:30 < rxr> I bet the error is way up and related to sqlite
09:30 < Baldzius> hi rxr
09:31 < Baldzius> hm
09:31 < mnemoc> i don'T have sqllist on the build i did with kde, and koffice failed
09:33 < rxr> mnemoc: I have been away last night when you ask about diet arg duplication
09:34 < mnemoc> and? have you?
09:35 < rxr> nope
09:35 < rxr> what do you mean with that?
09:35 < rxr> what target and package ?
09:35 < mnemoc> let me look for a sample
09:38 < mnemoc> uhm, on the few src.*/cmd_wrapper.log i have now around here only -D__dietlibc__ is passed twice :\
09:40 < mnemoc> uhm...
09:42 < rxr> did you got a problem last night, or why did you ask ?
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09:47 < CIA-7> aldas * r17888 /trunk/package/editors/geany/geany.desc: * updated geany (0.6 -> 0.7)
09:47 < CIA-7> aldas * r17889 /trunk/package/develop/gnupth/ (gnupth.desc head-1-usage.patch):
09:47 < CIA-7> * updated gnupth (2.0.6 -> 2.0.7)
09:47 < CIA-7> * updated copyright
09:48 < mnemoc> rxr: yes i did, but todfay morning i Cleanup
09:48 < mnemoc> rxr: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/DlkIvi82.html (cleaned for readability)
09:48 < mnemoc> on that one the duplication happen, but not by diet
09:49 < rxr> hm
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09:51 < LMJ> nice geany updte ;)
09:52 < mnemoc> wb LMJ
09:52 < LMJ> hello mnemoc & rxr & Baldzius & morfoh
09:52 < Baldzius> hi LMJ
09:54 < LMJ> how are you guys ?
09:55 < mnemoc> big headache here, and you?
09:55 < LMJ> little tired after a long week in a sysadmin service in a big computer, fighting against Win32 trolls ;)
09:56 < LMJ> mnemoc : too much local red wine , ;)
09:56 < LMJ> ?**
09:57 < mnemoc> LMJ: nah, :\
10:03 < mnemoc> rxr: do you see the duplication there?
10:03 < mnemoc> rxr: my main problem with the duplication was some weeks ago on an experimient where i got start.o added twice :(
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10:06 < rxr> mnemoc: I did not remember having problems
10:07 < rxr> however I have not tried dietperl recently
10:07 < rxr> mnemoc: I guess dietperl does not build?
10:07 < rxr> I could start a testbuild and analyze it if dietperl is a problem
10:08 < mnemoc> i managed to make Configure test against sanbox's headers, but i get libm symbols undefined even with -lm three times on the command line :\
10:08 < mnemoc> rxr: that would be great
10:08 < karasz> re
10:09 < mnemoc> wb karasz
10:09 < karasz> moin moin...
10:09 < karasz> hello mnemoc
10:15 < rxr> mnemoc: dietlibc amd -lm on x86-64 ?
10:15 < rxr> libm of diet is mostly NOP, expect on x86
10:16 < karasz> moin rxr
10:16 < mnemoc> :\
10:17 < mnemoc> rxr: i'm trying with microperl instead of miniperl right now... i bit more efectivly
11:02 < rxr> Baldzius: I think you misses some checksums in your latest gnome updates :-(
11:03 < rxr> or not, sorry my fault, was blinded ...
11:08 < Baldzius> :)
11:10 < Baldzius> rxr: are you going to keep koffice 1.5.1 for 2.2 ? if so then i should commit 2 (critical) last minute patches
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11:11 < nagulator> aloha
11:12 < Baldzius> hi nagulator
11:12 < karasz> iassa nagulator ;)
11:12 < nagulator> all cool guys how are you
11:12 < nagulator> weill be building a t2 based box soon
11:12 < nagulator> will*
11:16 < rxr> Baldzius: do they fix building?
11:17 < Baldzius> rxr: no, they are from koffice developers and should be included in next koffice release
11:18 < rxr> Baldzius: the build error I got, and most probably you too when you scroll, up is also on the koffice list, but a revert of the makefile section strangely did not fix it for me
11:18 < rxr> I wonder why it builds sometimes on my boxes
11:25 < Baldzius> i have same error with or without NOPARALLEL
11:30 < mnemoc> http://pastebin.ca/63624 <-- mine, with and without pnoarallele
11:31 < rxr> mnemoc: your log paste does not contains the error neither
11:32 < Baldzius> same as mine :)
11:32 < rxr> the error printout is way more up ans I bet sqlite2 related
11:33 < rxr> oh, ok you have *** No rule to make target `../../../kivio/kiviopart/libkiviocommon.la', needed by `libkivioimageexport.la'. Stop. there
11:34 < mnemoc> that is my error
11:34 < rxr> but there is no such error in Baldzius aste
11:34 < rxr> paste
11:35 < rxr> Baldzius: can you upload your complete log ?
11:35 < Baldzius> i can commit those 2 patches
11:35 < rxr> Baldzius: but they do not affect building, do they ?
11:35 < Baldzius> one of them should fix tahat error that mnemoc gets
11:35 < rxr> ah, the go ,-)
11:35 < rxr> then even
11:36 < Baldzius> in min and then i'll try to upload all error log
11:36 < rxr> however the error I got on one out of 7 builds or so is sqlite2 related, and the mail on the koffice list that indicated reverting a makefile bit did not fix it for me
11:43 < CIA-7> aldas * r17890 /trunk/package/kde/koffice/ (2 files):
11:43 < CIA-7> * added koffice-1.5.1-kexi-checkbox-data-saving.patch and
11:43 < CIA-7> koffice-1.5.1-kexi-form-plugins.patch ( 2 last minute patches
11:43 < CIA-7> taken from koffice ML )
11:49 < Baldzius> Sorry, the file you have pasted is too large
11:49 < Baldzius> damn
11:49 < Baldzius> rxr: maybe i email you?
11:49 < rxr> sure
11:49 < rxr> or review it again
11:49 < rxr> search for the real occurance of error from the bottom
11:50 < Baldzius> ok
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11:56 < CIA-7> aldas * r17891 /trunk/package/develop/ctags/ctags.desc: * updated ctags (5.5.4 -> 5.6)
11:56 < CIA-7> aldas * r17892 /trunk/package/zope/zwiki/zwiki.desc: * updated zwiki (0.53.0 -> 0.54.0)
12:07 < CIA-7> aldas * r17893 /trunk/package/filesystem/coda/ (5 files):
12:07 < CIA-7> * updated coda (6.0.14 -> 6.0.15)
12:07 < CIA-7> * updated copyright
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15:13 < rxr> notes to self, Apple Serial numbers manufactoring location:
15:13 < rxr> 4H: China
15:13 < rxr> CK: Cork, Ireland
15:13 < rxr> FC: Fountain, Colorado
15:13 < rxr> G8: USA
15:13 < rxr> RM: Remanufactured
15:13 < rxr> RN: Mexico
15:13 < rxr> SG: Singapore
15:13 < rxr> QT: Quanta, Taiwan
15:13 < rxr> UV: Taiwan
15:13 < rxr> W8: Shanghai, China
15:13 < rxr> XB: Elk Grove/Sacramento, California
15:13 < rxr> YM: Hon Hai, China
16:46 < CIA-7> aldas * r17894 /trunk/package/kde/koffice/koffice-1.5.1-kexi-sqlite2-fix.patch: * added koffice-1.5.1-kexi-sqlite2-fix.patch
16:49 < mnemoc> thanks Baldzius
16:50 < Baldzius> :)
16:52 < CIA-7> aldas * r17895 /trunk/package/office/libwpd/libwpd.desc: * updated libwpd (0.8.4 -> 0.8.5)
17:01 < CIA-7> aldas * r17896 /trunk/package/develop/uncrustify/uncrustify.desc: * updated uncrustify (0.0.17 -> 0.0.20)
17:04 < CIA-7> ragnar * r17897 /trunk/package/develop/stlport/ (stlport.conf stlport.desc): * Updated stlport to cvs snapshot (actually builds with gcc 4.1 now). Untested
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17:27 < CIA-7> ragnar * r17898 /trunk/package/develop/stlport/thanks-debian.patch: * not needed any more (hopefully)
17:29 < mnemoc> _Ragnar__: out of context that commit message means nothing
17:29 < _Ragnar__> oops >.<
17:29 < _Ragnar__> sorry
17:33 < mnemoc> :)
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17:52 < karasz> re
18:07 < mnemoc> wb karasz
18:10 < karasz> thx mnemoc
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19:20 < morfoh> wb acehunky
19:21 < acehunky> hi morfoh
19:24 < mnemoc> hi acehunky
19:24 < acehunky> the room seems to be quite :)
19:25 < mnemoc> yep, quite day
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21:18 < karasz> Lucifer_arma: sleeping????
21:18 * Lucifer_arma snores
21:19 * Lucifer_arma snores
21:19 < mnemoc> o_O
21:19 * Lucifer_arma considers writing a script to tell konversation to making snoring noises every 10 minutes or so
21:20 < mnemoc> that's quite easy on irssi :)
21:20 < Lucifer_arma> 'night (or afternoon, as it is here)
21:20 < Lucifer_arma> easy here too with, ummm, k-whateveritscalled
21:20 < mnemoc> gn8 Lucifer_arma
21:21 < karasz> good afternoon Lucifer_arma
21:21 < karasz> :P
21:27 < mnemoc> o.o
21:28 < mnemoc> uhm, the shit is even worse! 1.89eur per _minute_
21:28 < mnemoc> https://www.server4you.de/de/kontakt.html
21:28 < mnemoc> i'm hating this guys :(
21:29 < mnemoc> these
21:29 < mnemoc> .oO( wrong window )o
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22:24 < karasz> cya guys on thursday
22:25 < mnemoc> cu karasz! good luck, enjoy the trip
22:25 < karasz> thx, i won't.
22:25 < mnemoc> :(
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23:34 < keinek> hi
23:36 < mnemoc> wb keinek
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