T2 IRC Log: 2006-06-08

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--- Log opened Thu Jun 08 00:00:54 2006
01:02 < karasz> cya guys
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08:37 < rxr> mnemoc: think about how you continue to treat me here
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09:46 < rxr> hey mika_work !
09:46 [Users #t2]
09:46 [@ChanServ] [ dsoul ] [ LMJ ] [ misl ] [ rxr ] [ tdi ]
09:46 [ Baldzius] [ karasz] [ Lucifer_arma] [ mnemoc] [ sepp ] [ valentin ]
09:46 [ CIA-7 ] [ laj_ ] [ mika_work ] [ mtr ] [ sparc-kly] [ _Ragnar__]
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10:43 < mnemoc> rxr: what do you mean?
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11:22 < CIA-7> mtr * r17862 /trunk/package/www/seamonkey/seamonkey.desc: * fixed seamonkey filename (seamonkey-source-1.0.2 -> seamonkey-1.0.2.source ...)
11:27 < CIA-7> mtr * r17863 /trunk/package/x11/afterstep/afterstep.desc: * changed download url to sourceforge (ftp.afterstep.org unavailable)
11:29 < mtr> moin
11:35 < karasz> moin moin
11:40 < mnemoc> moin mtr, karasz
11:41 < karasz> hello mnemoc
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11:55 < mtr> moin mnemoc, karasz
11:56 < karasz> hello mtr
11:56 < CIA-7> rene * r17864 /trunk/package/network/apache/http-user-group.patch: * fixed apache to run as http:http, not daemon:daemon
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13:35 < karasz> anyone got an ideea about http://karasz.pastebin.ca/63187 ?
13:35 < karasz> it is kdebase failing on 64 bit system.
13:38 < mnemoc> and where is libstdc++.la ?
13:38 < karasz> root@karasz:/usr/src/trunk# locate libstdc++.la
13:38 < karasz> /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/4.1.0/32/libstdc++.la
13:38 < karasz> /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/4.1.0/libstdc++.la
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14:00 < MusiFreq> anyone know what could be causing escape sequences in /etc/issue to not be parsed? they are shown as-is....except for the 'clear' sequence
14:00 < rxr> karasz: is that a complete, fresh build ?
14:01 < rxr> MusiFreq: hm, no idea off-hand I do not edit the issue too often
14:01 < MusiFreq> its older rocklinux...but ive had the problem on t2 and other distros
14:02 < rxr> what sequence do you miss from translation, all ?
14:02 < karasz> rxr, no, it is an emerge.
14:04 < MusiFreq> [axion|~>cat /etc/issue
14:04 < MusiFreq> This is \n.\O (\s \m \r) \t
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14:08 [ Baldzius] [ laj_ ] [ mnemoc ] [ sepp ] [ _Ragnar__]
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14:08 < rxr> karasz: hm, of an very old systeme ?
14:09 < rxr> MusiFreq: those are exapanded by the getty, not the console driver ....
14:09 < rxr> doesn't the file work when a getty prints it out ?
14:09 < karasz> rxr, i was stupid again, problem solved. thx.
14:10 < rxr> karasz: oeh, how ?
14:13 < rxr> mnemoc: can can tell morfoh I gave cups 1.2 a try and it works for my use-cases so far, if he likes he can drop some notes where cups errored out for his use-case
14:15 < mnemoc> rxr: done
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15:22 < CIA-7> rene * r17865 /trunk/package/base/inotify-tools/ (. inotify-tools.cache inotify-tools.desc): * added inotify-tools (1.5) - Command line utilities for the Linux inotify system
15:27 < CIA-7> rene * r17866 /trunk/package/graphic/ploticus/ (compile.patch ploticus.desc): * updated ploticus (232 -> 233)
15:32 < _Ragnar__> moin moin
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15:37 < CIA-7> msluis * r17867 /trunk/package/java/classpath/classpath.desc: * updated classpath (0.90 -> 0.91)
15:37 < mnemoc> moin _Ragnar__
15:38 < _Ragnar__> hi mnemoc :)
15:38 < _Ragnar__> what's new?
15:38 < mnemoc> nothing :p, and there?
15:38 < _Ragnar__> not much
15:38 < _Ragnar__> busy as hell >.<
15:39 < rxr> _Ragnar__: when you said madwifi would be broken, was that from looking at the diff or from a testbuild ?
15:40 < rxr> for me it builds against the kernel that is building, not the currently running one
15:40 < _Ragnar__> test build
15:40 < _Ragnar__> yes that's the problem
15:41 < rxr> I wrote it builds against the kernel it is build inside, not the host kernel
15:41 < rxr> you said it would ignore the kernel built by t2 and build against the host, running kernel version
15:42 < _Ragnar__> O_O
15:43 < _Ragnar__> well one problem is that it runs depmod
15:43 < _Ragnar__> which fails it in stage 1
15:44 < _Ragnar__> lemme retry that build right now
15:46 < _Ragnar__> ok building ... might be an hour until I get to madwifi tho
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15:54 < rxr> _Ragnar__: hm, ok - best hand me the .err log if any
15:54 < rxr> in the meantime I patched madwifi to use the usual eth% naming, I hope you like that
16:00 < rxr> _Ragnar__: ok, well my last patch broke building madwifi to get the add-on tools
16:00 < rxr> I fix that
16:00 < rxr> depmod should not be run, it is substituted away with sed
16:01 < rxr> I rechecked inside the biuld and the line has an echo then
16:01 < rxr> (my depmod does not hit the flist wrapper since it is static, sigh)
16:01 < rxr> I'll fix the package to build again (the tools one) and convert the sed to a patch to notice if the makefile code changes and thus needs adaption more easily
16:08 < rxr> btw. cups 1.2 improved significantly and the admin interface is now more useful, including discovery of network printers ... !
16:09 < CIA-7> rene * r17868 /trunk/package/network/madwifi/ (madwifi.conf no-depmod.patch postlinux.conf):
16:09 < CIA-7> * improved madwifi to rather patch away the depmod instead silently
16:09 < CIA-7> run sed on the Makefile, easier to uncover if the Makefile gets
16:09 < CIA-7> changed
16:09 < CIA-7> * fixed the madwifi package as it to build again by not changing
16:09 < CIA-7> into the tools sub-directory but rather use -C tools so that the
16:09 < CIA-7> kernel patches apply
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17:09 < _Ragnar__> rxr: why change to eth? o_O
17:12 < _Ragnar__> rxr: uhm
17:12 < _Ragnar__> I get: =====[var_append:65 (last $?=0)> makeopt='CC="$CC" CPP="$CPP" CXX="$CXX" prefix="/$prefix" CC=kcc KERNELPATH=/TOOLCHAIN/src.linux26.default.20060608.083045.22369.fileserver/linux-2.6.16'
17:12 < _Ragnar__> /TOOLCHAIN/package/network/madwifi/postlinux.conf: line 29: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `''
17:17 < _Ragnar__> nvm I'll svn up
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18:51 < rxr> _Ragnar__: see the list
18:52 < rxr> _Ragnar__: so users do not need to hunt what the name is, and ethX is standart among nearly all in-kernel wlan drivers
18:52 < rxr> also to not run sed on the etc/conf/network when the hardware is exchanged
19:23 < misl> hi folks
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19:37 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.2.0-rc RELEASED | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/
19:37 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Fri Jun 2 17:55:27 2006]
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20:08 < valentin> re
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21:41 < morfoh> moin
21:42 < mnemoc> .oO( strange time to moin )o
21:42 < morfoh> mnemoc: we had this kind of discussion yet
21:42 < mnemoc> :p
21:42 < morfoh> moin is not just a simple good morning
21:42 < morfoh> :p
21:44 < mnemoc> i know i know
21:45 < mnemoc> "The word derives from the Frisian word mooi, meaning beautiful" <--- wikipedia
21:45 < mnemoc> "Normally "Moin" is the same as "good". If you meet a person, ask "good? (Moin!)", and the answer is "good! good! (Moin! Moin!)"
21:45 < mnemoc> People in more southern parts of Germany often mistakenly assume that Moin is a short from of Morgen (meaning "morning") and should be used like "good morning". Saying "Moin moin" in parts of Germany other than the north will brand you as a northerner, or the derogatory term "Fischkopf" (fish head)."
21:47 < mnemoc> so you are a fish head
22:06 < mnemoc> and /go ka
22:06 < mnemoc> err
22:10 < _Ragnar__> re
22:10 < _Ragnar__> rxr_: ok madwifi built now
22:10 < _Ragnar__> thx
22:15 < morfoh> wb _Ragnar__
22:16 < _Ragnar__> thanks
22:18 < _Ragnar__> mnemoc: and I'll survive the fish head ... in fact I've already conditioned some americans to greet with moin moin :)
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23:39 < keinek_> hi guys
23:39 < keinek_> :)
23:39 < keinek_> tomorrow is the day
23:39 < keinek_> :)
23:39 < keinek_> ;)
23:45 < morfoh> keinek_: why ? will you have the first sexual contact with a women in your live time tomorrow ?
23:45 < morfoh> :)
23:45 < keinek_> no morfoh
23:45 < _Ragnar__> *lol*
23:46 < keinek_> tomorror start the football championship!
23:46 < morfoh> pfff ...
23:46 < morfoh> :)
23:46 < morfoh> f* football
23:46 < keinek_> but i still try to have my first sexual contact, i dont give up :D
23:46 < morfoh> keinek_: good boy :)
23:46 < keinek_> morfoh, t2 rc work fine!!!
23:47 < morfoh> keinek_: but I hope you don't tried to use a football
23:47 < keinek_> i can compile a desktop
23:47 < morfoh> keinek_: lucky you
23:47 < keinek_> but i must disable linux-mm or something like that
23:47 < keinek_> morfoh, i dont like football, but championship is championship :P
23:47 < keinek_> morfoh, but automatic nvidia detection fail.
23:47 < keinek_> i like swim
23:49 < morfoh> keinek_: and you used the rc ?
23:49 < keinek_> now no
23:49 < keinek_> but the compilation work fine, i must do the first tests
23:49 < keinek_> add packages, less packages and compile again.
23:49 < keinek_> :)
23:49 < morfoh> keinek_: compilation is one thing :)
23:50 < keinek_> but is the first time that all compile good.
23:50 < keinek_> sure.
23:50 < keinek_> you guys do a good work with 2.2
23:51 < morfoh> unfortunately we jut can say that about the packages included within the desktop target ... there is some broken stuff within the rc but you don't notice because it's not on the target you build
23:52 < morfoh> but yes ... it's a good thing to have a compilable target
23:57 < keinek_> :P
--- Log closed Fri Jun 09 00:00:00 2006