--- Log opened Sun Jun 04 00:00:54 2006 00:02 < karasz> cu guys. 00:03 -!- The13 [i=MMM@213.252.233.162] has quit [] 01:13 -!- AzianFlu [n=Yamabush@ip68-102-129-253.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #t2 02:22 -!- Lucifer_arma is now known as LuciAteAPerson 02:22 -!- LuciAteAPerson is now known as Lucifer_arma 02:58 -!- sparc-kly [n=sparc@64.237.241.192] has joined #t2 03:14 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@pD9E12864.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 03:31 -!- mtr [n=Michael@pD9E11237.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:31 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr 03:43 -!- Demian [n=demian@201.206.44.210] has joined #t2 03:43 < Demian> hi 03:44 < Demian> someone skilled with squid tuning ? 04:38 -!- morfoh [n=morfoh@e178060126.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 04:38 < morfoh> hi 06:20 -!- morfoh [n=morfoh@e178060126.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:41 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 07:16 < misl> morning all :) 08:19 -!- karasz_ [n=karasz@80.97.102.201] has joined #T2 08:20 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.201] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:39 -!- You're now known as rxr 08:39 [Users #t2] 08:39 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-3 ] [ karasz_ ] [ misl ] [ sepp_ ] [ _Ragnar_] 08:39 [ acehunky] [ Demian] [ laj_ ] [ mnemoc] [ sparc-kly] 08:39 [ AzianFlu] [ dsoul ] [ LMJ ] [ mtr ] [ tdi ] 08:39 [ Baldzius] [ idealm] [ Lucifer_arma] [ rxr ] [ valentin ] 08:39 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 21 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 20 normal] 08:40 < rxr> moin 08:47 < CIA-3> rene * r17791 /trunk/package/base/linux26/macbook-usb-hid.patch: * added one more USB ID to the macbook-usb-hid.patch, scheduled to be sent upstream, now 09:02 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p83.129.186.223.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 09:02 < rxr> moin sepp 09:03 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:07 < sepp> moin rxr :) 09:09 < CIA-3> rene * r17792 /trunk/package/x11/synaptics/ (X11R7-lib64.patch synaptics.desc): * updated synaptics (0.14.3 -> 0.14.5) 09:12 < rxr> Infizierte Treiber auf HP-Servern 09:12 < rxr> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/73848 09:23 < CIA-3> rene * r17793 /trunk/package/audio/nas/ (gcc4.patch nas.desc): * updated nas (1.7 -> 1.8) 09:24 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p83.129.183.248.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:24 < CIA-3> rene * r17794 /trunk/package/base/linux26mm/macbook-usb-hid.patch: * copyed the macbook-usb-hid.patch to linux26mm 10:12 < CIA-3> rene * r17795 /trunk/architecture/ (powerpc/kernel.conf.m4 x86/kernel.conf.sh): 10:12 < CIA-3> * enable CONFIG_USB_HIDINPUT_POWERBOOK for x86 (MacBook*) and powerpc 10:12 < CIA-3> (post 2005 PowerBooks) 10:31 < Baldzius> moin 10:31 < Baldzius> rxr: looks like uname wrapper breaks cmake 10:32 < Baldzius> like libmpeg3 10:34 * Lucifer_arma is away: sleeping 10:37 < rxr> cu Lucifer_arma 10:37 < rxr> Baldzius: ok 10:53 < rxr> Baldzius: /me fixing thie uname thing 10:53 < rxr> are there any votes to patch this wheel group away by default 10:53 < rxr> historically we never required it for su ... 10:59 < rxr> hm - cmake is ugly to fix - damn 11:01 < Baldzius> :/ 11:01 < rxr> yeah 11:06 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 11:06 < misl> hi folks 11:06 < rxr> mon misl 11:06 < rxr> moin even 11:06 < rxr> ,-) 11:06 < misl> hi rxr 11:07 < misl> rxr: do you know of a good laptop that is capable of running T2 linux without hassle? 11:07 < misl> prefereably x86-64 11:10 < rxr> not really, sorry 11:11 < misl> :-( 11:11 < rxr> if you prefer x86-64 look out for a Turion64 , best _MT_ not ML, they eat less energy == less heat 11:11 < rxr> the centrions have no 64bit extension 11:11 < rxr> also core duo not 11:11 < rxr> the core duo II on automn will have the em64t 11:12 < rxr> I find most PC laptops that unattractive, design and quality wise, that I do not really monitor those boxes 11:12 < rxr> the Apple MacBook is quite nice, though no em64t, the display is not that good, but it has the core duo with the VT extension enabled 11:12 < misl> I do not care about the design to much 11:13 < misl> VT? is that for Xen support? 11:13 < rxr> heh ,-) I care 11:13 < rxr> misl: yep, but I have not tested anything in this area 11:13 < rxr> I'm happy when I can basically use the box 11:14 < rxr> Baldzius: can you upload your mpeg3lib error log ? 11:14 < misl> Xen support, that's something I care about :-) 11:15 < rxr> heh 11:15 < rxr> I do not know off hand if the Turion2 has the pacifica VT extension from AMD 11:15 < rxr> the core duo have VT 11:16 < rxr> but some BIOSes do not enable it 11:18 < misl> I think I have to do some googling :-) 11:19 < rxr> if the MacBook display would be better it would be a nice laptop 11:19 < rxr> even more when they would have used a 64bit CPU ... 11:19 < rxr> Baldzius: ok - fixed, no need for the log anymore ,-)) 11:20 < Baldzius> rxr: :) 11:20 < Baldzius> almost uploaded 11:20 < rxr> == 06/04/06 13:27:48 =[9]=> Finished building package libmpeg3. 11:20 < CIA-3> rene * r17796 /trunk/scripts/Build-Tools: * added long option substitution to the uname wrapper 11:22 < CIA-3> rene * r17797 /trunk/package/multimedia/libmpeg3/largefile.patch: 11:22 < CIA-3> * patched libmpeg3 to have struct stat64 around, needed on at least 11:22 < CIA-3> ppc64, maybe all architectures 11:22 < rxr> Baldzius: built for me -^ 11:24 < Baldzius> yeah, now works :) 11:24 < Baldzius> last thing: i found this in gcc/parse-config 11:24 < Baldzius> # Passing -I/usr{/local/}include creates a warning in gcc3 which is confusing 11:24 < Baldzius> # some of the configure scripts and Makefiles. 11:24 < Baldzius> # 11:24 < Baldzius> var_insert GCC3_WRAPPER_REMOVE " " "-I/usr/include" 11:24 < Baldzius> var_insert GCC3_WRAPPER_REMOVE " " "-I/usr/local/include" 11:25 < Baldzius> not sure but it looks like not needed 11:25 < Baldzius> i am almost finishing ref build without it and don't see any regression 11:25 < rxr> this was introduced with gcc-3.0 or so - maybe the packages do not have those these days anymore - or gcc does not complain about it anymore 11:27 < Baldzius> this hack breaks the latest evolution 11:27 < rxr> Baldzius: for cmake you would need to patch the cmake machinery to not include stderr in program invocation results 11:27 < rxr> Baldzius: however this /might/ cause regressions for packages using cmake and relying on this 11:27 < Baldzius> iirc there's one package relying on cmake :) 11:27 < rxr> currently it includes the "You may not run uname inside the build" output into the result which fails of curse 11:28 < rxr> Baldzius: kde4 will I read 11:28 < rxr> currently we only have small using cmake, right? ,-= 11:28 < rxr> maybe patch cmake to not use stderr in output and give it a spin 11:28 < rxr> I have fixing madwifi, wheel group and md5sum on my todo already 11:29 < Baldzius> not sure i can make it 11:43 < misl> hmm, seems like AMD Turion X2 is the best option for Xen on a 64 bits laptop :-) 11:43 < misl> http://www.virtualization.info/2006/05/amd-launches-turion-64-x2-with-io.html 11:47 < misl> Anyone like to test a Turion X2 notebook? 11:47 < misl> http://amd-notebooks.de/blog/bewirb-dich-beim-amd-notebooktest/ 11:52 < rxr> I have no blog ,-) 11:52 < rxr> open one and sign up ,-) 11:56 -!- karasz_ is now known as karasz 11:57 < karasz> moin moin 12:05 < misl> hi karasz 12:06 < karasz> hello misl 13:11 * rxr right now wasting time diasselbing tme Apple Intel HDA audio driver 13:11 < rxr> damn junk 13:23 < misl> At least the design is okay ;-) 13:39 < rxr> yep, just that the patched alsa driver only drives the right internal speaker :-( 14:11 -!- keinek [n=keinek@200.70.160.34] has joined #t2 14:11 < keinek> hi 14:11 < karasz> hello keinek 14:11 < keinek> HI karasz 14:12 < keinek> i need htop-0.6.2.tar.gz, i cant download from web, and Testing ... ok 32230,000 is the only mirror that work here in argentina. 14:12 < keinek> :) 14:13 < karasz> do you see www.x5.ro? 14:13 < keinek> is the last file that i need for start a compilation with RC 2.2 desktop. 14:13 < keinek> karas 14:13 < karasz> if yes, i can provide htop for you. 14:13 < keinek> karasz, 14:13 < keinek> INFO: Testing ... ok 32230,000 14:13 < keinek> INFO: Testing ... ok 0,000 14:13 < keinek> INFO: Testing ... ok 0,000 14:13 < keinek> INFO: Testing ... ok 0,000 14:13 < keinek> INFO: Testing ... ok 0,000 14:14 < karasz> ok 0,000? 14:14 < karasz> hmmm. 14:14 < keinek> thanks karasz 14:14 < karasz> moment. 14:14 < keinek> i will try again, perhaps is my dial up connection. 14:15 < keinek> no, the same. 14:17 < karasz> do you need 0.6.2? 14:18 < keinek> 2.2.0-rc need 0.6.2 14:18 < keinek> :) 14:18 < Baldzius> hm 14:18 < keinek> if you have this one, please send me to keinek at gmail.com 14:18 < Baldzius> gsmp really doesn't have it 14:19 < Baldzius> but it downloads from original url 14:19 < keinek> the original url doesnt work 14:19 < keinek> i will try again... 14:20 < mnemoc> keinek: query 14:20 < Baldzius> keinek: i've jus tested 14:20 < Baldzius> works for me 14:20 < karasz> keinek http://www.x5.ro/htop-0.6.2.tar.bz2 14:20 < karasz> dld manualy 14:21 < karasz> Baldzius: there is a problem with 6.2 on gsmp 14:21 < keinek> thanks karasz 14:21 < karasz> np, yw ;) 14:22 < keinek> mnemoc, i thinks was the same error with sourceforge. 14:22 < Baldzius> don't get it, what it could be ralated to 14:23 < karasz> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/mirror/t2-source/2.2/h/htop-0.6.2.tar.gz.extck.err .... 14:23 < karasz> 0.6.1 is fine. 14:23 < keinek> sometimes the servers of sourceforge fails... 14:24 < Baldzius> oh, someone should tell rxr :) 14:25 < karasz> same with ht-0.9.2.tar.bz2.extck-err... 14:25 < keinek> misc/share/DownloadTranslations <--- change it the sourceforge server. 14:25 < keinek> # loadbalancer is working weird these days 14:25 < keinek> s,^http://.*dl.\(sourceforge\|sf\).net/,http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/, 14:26 < keinek> this lines is from old t2 tree. 14:26 < Baldzius> i think there might be more *.err 14:26 < keinek> just change the easynews, for another server, example http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/ 14:26 < karasz> maybe, this 2 i see with my own wyws... ;) 14:26 < karasz> err, eyes... 14:27 < karasz> but i guess that it is not hard to grep for them... 14:27 < Baldzius> keinek: don't use easynews 14:27 < Baldzius> stinky mirror 14:27 < keinek> before try manualy what server work better. 14:27 < keinek> ok Baldzius i do. 14:27 < Baldzius> last one rxr picked one is ok 14:27 < keinek> but the mirror status change depend the coutry that we are. 14:28 < keinek> s,^http://.*dl.\(sourceforge\|sf\).net/,http://mesh.dl.sourceforge.net/, <---- this is the last RC 2.2 line. 14:28 < keinek> so... mesh is dont work properly. 14:28 < keinek> stinky work better Baldzius ? 14:29 < keinek> stinky is a mirror ? 14:29 < Baldzius> :))) 14:29 < keinek> :P 14:29 < Baldzius> no 14:29 < keinek> hahaha 14:29 < keinek> :) 14:29 < keinek> funny 14:29 < Baldzius> use latest in trunk 14:29 < keinek> ok 14:30 < Baldzius> heanet is also good 14:30 < keinek> ok, whatever i have all the sources for start compile a desktop system. 14:30 < keinek> :D 14:31 < Baldzius> :) 14:32 < mnemoc> keinek: stinky significa apestoso 14:32 < keinek> mnemoc, thanks mnemoc jjajaa 14:33 < keinek> mnemoc, i still waiting for the adsl... tree weeks... and i still ... 14:33 < mnemoc> :) 14:33 < keinek> here the adsl service is stinky ;) 14:35 < sepp> it is a galatic rule - all telcos and isps suck 14:44 < keinek> yesterday connect by ham radio to the radio station. 14:44 < keinek> all is by air. 14:44 < keinek> at 1200 bps 14:45 < keinek> :P 14:45 < keinek> is RETRO. 14:45 < keinek> is VINTAGE COMPUTER 14:45 < keinek> :) 14:45 < keinek> the chat is very dinamic. 14:45 < keinek> all for educational purpose. 14:46 < keinek> is like the old telephone bbs, but with hamradio. 14:50 < sepp> :) 15:16 < LMJ> hello the Chan 15:16 < karasz> bonjour LMJ 15:17 < LMJ> how are you karasz ? 15:17 < karasz> quite good, thx, and you? 15:18 < LMJ> yes, nice 15:18 < LMJ> short weekend 15:18 < LMJ> most of the weekend was 3 or 4 days in France during the May Month ;) 15:19 < karasz> this is the way :( 15:26 < CIA-3> amery * r17798 /trunk/package/shells/scponly/ (. scponly.desc): * added scponly (4.6) - A user shell for restricting remote access to scp and sftp. 15:28 < LMJ> what the best way to send update ? "svn diff" output in an attached file ? 15:28 < rxr> svn diff 15:28 < rxr> attached or inlined 15:29 < LMJ> i'm close to have something clean for you rxr ;) 15:29 < LMJ> i'm working to make your work easier ;) 15:30 < LMJ> sent to SVN 15:41 -!- acehunky [n=chat_jok@59.184.24.151] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:46 -!- keinek_ [n=keinek@200.70.144.38] has joined #t2 15:46 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:48 -!- keinek [n=keinek@200.70.160.34] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:51 < karasz> brb 16:00 -!- The13 [i=MMM@213.252.233.162] has joined #t2 16:27 < keinek_> !> * Code maturity level options 16:27 < keinek_> !> * 16:27 < keinek_> !> Prompt for development and/or incomplete code/drivers (EXPERIMENTAL) [N/y/ .. 16:27 < keinek_> !> Console input/output is redirected. Run 'make oldconfig' to update configu .. 16:27 < keinek_> !> Due to previous errors, no 1-linux26mm.log file! 16:27 < keinek_> !> (Try enabling xtrace in the config to track an error inside the build syst .. 16:27 < keinek_> -> $root/var/adm/logs/1-linux26mm.out -> 1-linux26mm.err 16:27 < keinek_> == 06/04/06 13:23:37 =[1]=> Aborted building package linux26mm. 16:27 < keinek_> -> Unmounting loop mounts ... 16:27 < keinek_> :'( 16:27 < keinek_> buaaaaa! 16:27 < keinek_> snig snif :'( 16:27 < keinek_> i dont have lucky with 2.2 16:27 < mnemoc> you can freely disable linux26mm 16:27 < keinek_> yes? 16:28 < mnemoc> yes 16:28 < keinek_> Mmmm ok, i do. And linux26 is for.?? 16:28 < keinek_> sorry linux26mm* 16:40 < karasz> linux26mm is another branch of the 26 kernel. 16:41 < karasz> like linux26ac 16:41 < karasz> i guess you should be ok with the vanilla 26, no0 need for the others. 16:46 -!- pale_horse [n=ces@12.160.126.219] has joined #t2 16:53 < pale_horse> rxr, thanks for the email about the printed manual, I'm getting the live cd now to test my hardware 16:54 < rxr> well - the livecd is not exactly new 16:54 * rxr urgently needs to build a newone from 2.2.0-rc ... 16:55 < pale_horse> I only learned of t2 last night 16:56 < pale_horse> gentoo bores me 16:57 < pale_horse> according to the hardware list my mini-itx will run just fine 17:03 * sparc-kly brbrbr 17:16 < rxr> somehow I think I'm the only one noticing that the ALSA driver only drives the right speaker of the Apple MacBook and maybe even the MacBook pro 17:17 * rxr should not have trained his ears too much on music ... 17:19 -!- The13 [i=MMM@213.252.233.162] has quit [] 17:20 [Users #t2] 17:20 [@ChanServ] [ dsoul ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ _Ragnar_] 17:20 [ AzianFlu] [ idealm ] [ Lucifer_arma] [ sepp ] 17:20 [ Baldzius] [ karasz ] [ mnemoc ] [ sparc-kly] 17:20 [ CIA-3 ] [ keinek_] [ mtr ] [ tdi ] 17:20 [ Demian ] [ laj_ ] [ pale_horse ] [ valentin ] 17:20 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 21 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 20 normal] 17:31 < karasz> rxr, do you think that an ibook g3 would boot T2 laright? 17:31 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 17:57 * pale_horse is away: 18:02 -!- nick01 [i=1000@home-07031.b.astral.ro] has joined #t2 18:02 < nick01> do I need the 2 cd ? 18:02 < karasz> yes. 18:02 < nick01> k :| 18:04 -!- pale_horse [n=ces@12.160.126.219] has quit [] 18:06 < nick01> can u select what to install or it just installs everything ? 18:06 < karasz> you can select packs during the install proccess. 18:07 < nick01> aren't they divided by category like kde gnome editors internet etc too ? 18:08 < karasz> well, dunno, i never selected packs, usually i use a minimal build then emerge what i need. 18:09 < nick01> :| 18:10 < nick01> emerge ? gentoo based ? 18:11 < karasz> nah 18:11 < karasz> jus a name coincidence ;) 18:12 < nick01> lol 18:13 < sepp> they are organized, look in the package/ dir 18:15 < karasz> sepp: in the installer program? 18:16 < sepp> ahh, ok - i can not read :) 18:17 < karasz> so did you ever selected packs while installing? i did not so i cannot answer nick01s question... 18:17 < sepp> no, i build only the packages i really want 18:17 < sepp> nothing more 18:18 < karasz> ;) seems that packs selection during install is an unused option... 18:19 < nick01> I want a full working system not to compile everything but I also don't have the space to install both cds 18:25 < sepp> you can select packages, it is the last option 18:25 < sepp> iirc 18:28 < nick01> anybody tested this thing on a clamshell ibook ? 18:32 < sepp> not me, i am not even sure i know what ibook that is 18:32 < karasz> i guewss you should be fine with T2-ppc 18:33 < nick01> ibook g3 300 mhz 18:35 < sepp> well, the iso is named powerpc-g3 so i guess thats fine 18:37 < nick01> other distros refused even to boot 18:39 < sepp> ask rxr when he is around, i know nothing about ibooks 18:40 < sepp> sorry 18:41 < nick01> k 18:41 < nick01> tks 19:00 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.201] has left #T2 [] 19:09 -!- Baldzius [n=baldzius@85.206.97.184] has quit ["reboot"] 19:15 -!- Baldzius [n=baldzius@85.206.107.175] has joined #t2 19:35 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178184046.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 19:35 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.2.0-rc RELEASED | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/ 19:35 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Fri Jun 2 17:55:27 2006] 19:35 [Users #t2] 19:35 [@ChanServ] [ Demian] [ keinek ] [ misl ] [ rxr ] [ tdi ] 19:35 [ AzianFlu] [ dsoul ] [ laj_ ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr_ ] [ valentin] 19:35 [ Baldzius] [ idealm] [ LMJ ] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ _Ragnar_] 19:35 [ CIA-3 ] [ karasz] [ Lucifer_arma] [ nick01] [ sparc-kly] 19:35 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 23 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 22 normal] 19:35 -!- [freenode-info] help freenode weed out clonebots, please register your IRC nick and auto-identify: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 19:35 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004 19:35 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 36 secs 19:44 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178147054.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:03 -!- keinek [n=keinek@200.70.144.38] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:20 -!- keinek [n=keinek@200.70.145.233] has joined #t2 20:44 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:28 -!- Demian [n=demian@201.206.44.210] has quit ["leaving"] 22:16 -!- nick01 [i=1000@home-07031.b.astral.ro] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:27 -!- pale_horse [n=ces@12.160.126.219] has joined #t2 23:24 * Lucifer_arma is back. 23:25 -!- pale_horse [n=ces@12.160.126.219] has left #t2 [] 23:53 -!- Lucifer_arma is now known as LuciEatsPeople 23:53 < karasz> bon appetite LuciEatsPeople ;) --- Log closed Mon Jun 05 00:00:00 2006