T2 IRC Log: 2006-06-03

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--- Log opened Sat Jun 03 00:00:48 2006
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06:32 < idealm> http://distrowatch.com/3489, Congratulations.
06:32 -!- marcusU [n=marcus@host-12-196-72-191.classicnet.net] has joined #t2
06:41 < marcusU> I don't suppose that the handbook editor is around?
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08:53 -!- You're now known as rxr
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09:08 [Users #t2]
09:08 [@ChanServ] [ dsoul ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ tdi ]
09:08 [ acehunky] [ idealm] [ Lucifer_arma] [ sepp ] [ valentin]
09:08 [ Baldzius] [ karasz] [ mnemoc ] [ sepp_ ] [ _Ragnar_]
09:08 [ CIA-3 ] [ laj_ ] [ mtr ] [ sparc-kly]
09:08 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 19 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 18 normal]
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09:38 < rxr> INFO: Downloading mirror-list from exactcode.de.
09:38 < rxr> INFO: Testing ... ok 164744.000
09:38 < rxr> INFO: Testing ... error
09:38 < rxr> INFO: Testing ... error
09:38 < rxr> INFO: Testing ... error
09:38 < rxr> INFO: Testing ... error
09:39 < rxr> ouhm - not such a got impression for people testing out t2 these days
09:46 < CIA-3> rene * r17785 /trunk/package/graphic/exact-image/exact-image.desc: * updated exact-image (0.0.12 -> 0.0.13)
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11:27 < karasz> moin moin
11:29 < rxr> moin karasz
11:32 -!- morfoh [n=morfoh@e178060126.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2
11:32 < morfoh> hi
11:32 < karasz> hello rxr
11:32 < karasz> moin kommrad ;)
11:32 < morfoh> moin tavarish ;)
11:45 < CIA-3> aldas * r17786 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-backgrounds/gnome-backgrounds.desc: * updated gnome-backgrounds (2.14.2 -> 2.14.2.1)
11:45 < CIA-3> aldas * r17787 /trunk/package/gnome2/sound-juicer/sound-juicer.desc: * updated sound-juicer (2.14.3 -> 2.14.4)
11:47 < Baldzius> moin all
11:48 < karasz> moin Baldzius
11:48 < Baldzius> hi karasz
11:52 < Baldzius> brb
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11:56 < CIA-3> rene * r17788 /trunk/package/contrib/915resolution/ (. 915resolution.cache 915resolution.desc): * added 915resolution (0.5.2) - Intel Video BIOS Hack
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12:05 < karasz> wb Baldzius
12:05 < Baldzius> thanx karasz :)
12:19 < CIA-3> rene * r17789 /trunk/package/base/linux26/ (macbook-touch.patch macbook-usb-hid.patch): * macbook* touchpad and keyboard support pathces for linux26
12:27 < morfoh> hi Baldzius
12:27 < Baldzius> hi morfoh
12:28 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2
12:28 < misl> hi folks :-)
12:28 < morfoh> hi misl boy :)
12:29 < misl> hey morfoh :-) how's life?
12:30 < morfoh> misl: thanks ... yesterday I was still alive :)
12:30 < morfoh> misl: and on your site ? ;)
12:30 < misl> :-) how about today?
12:30 < misl> Over here everything is fine
12:31 < misl> But I have to prepare everything for the arrival of our next baby
12:31 < morfoh> misl: it seems to me that nothing has changed from yesterday :)
12:31 < morfoh> misl: :D
12:31 < morfoh> misl: when it will arrive ?
12:31 < misl> If it arrives on schedule we still have a few weeks, but the other arrived 2 months early.
12:32 < misl> somewhere half july
12:33 < morfoh> misl: hehe :)
12:33 * morfoh is going to reinstall ... bbl :)
12:34 < misl> cu
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12:39 * karasz off for a while
12:39 < karasz> cu later guys
13:27 < CIA-3> aldas * r17790 /trunk/package/www/firefox/firefox.desc: * updated firefox (1.5.0.3 -> 1.5.0.4)
13:33 -!- morfoh [n=morfoh@e178060126.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2
13:33 < morfoh> re hi
13:33 < morfoh> sepp_: btw, seems that the e17 shelve configuring issue was solved :)
13:34 < morfoh> sepp_: now you can remove stuff
14:10 < Baldzius> http://humor.beecy.net/bushkerry/index.aspx
14:10 < Baldzius> ^- LoL
15:21 < morfoh> Baldzius: now you can see the difference ;)
15:34 < Baldzius> :)
15:36 < morfoh> "poor" john ... no girl wants to be kissed from him ... even his "Heinz Ketchup" girl seems to deny it :)
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16:38 < trb7> hi
16:38 < karasz> hi trb7
16:38 < trb7> hi karasz
16:50 < morfoh> hi trb7
16:51 < trb7> hi morfoh
16:51 < trb7> replying to the e17-conf.in mail...
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17:16 < trb7> brb
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17:36 < rxr> http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=14801
17:46 -!- trb7 [n=netstati@bl5-233-178.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #t2
17:46 < trb7> hi again
17:47 < trb7> there is definitively something _very_ wrong with e-modules
17:47 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
17:47 < trb7> i tried again, to do a generic string replacement, using $libdir
17:47 < trb7> the string replacement is ok, in the log, the string /opt/e17/lib/... is replaced by /opt/e17/lib64
17:48 < trb7> but flists show that the modules all went to /opt/e17/lib/enlightenment/modules/whatever
17:49 < rxr> hi
17:49 < rxr> the flist may be old
17:49 < karasz> hello rxr
17:49 < rxr> do you have two entries for those files in the flist then =
17:49 < karasz> the news is on distrowarch too...
17:50 < trb7> hi :)
17:50 < trb7> well, the problem is that modules aren't installed in libdir, but in datadir and moduledir
17:50 < trb7> hi rxr btw
17:50 < trb7> and if you try to pass datadir and moduledir, you're just ignored
17:51 < trb7> 1m, trying the nonconditional approach, in e-modules.conf
17:51 < trb7> i don't like to have an e-modules fix in a generic thing such as e17-conf.in
17:51 < trb7> so i removed the e-modules thing from e17-conf.in, and created, again, an e-modules.conf
17:51 < trb7> in any case, the autogen is ran by hook_add preconf 5, and the string replacement by hook_add preconf 3, so it should work
17:52 < trb7> 1m
17:52 < trb7> what confused me a _lot_ was that when i ran debug.sh
17:52 < trb7> libdir = lib
17:52 < trb7> not lib64
17:52 < trb7> 1m, building again
17:57 < trb7> i don't understand this
17:58 < trb7> in e-modules.conf i added
17:58 < trb7> hook_add preconf 3 'find -name configure.in -exec sed -i -e "s,${prefix}/lib/enlightenment,"${libdir}/enlightenment,g" {} \;'
17:59 < trb7> the log shows that the string replacement was ok
17:59 < trb7> ===[hook_val:126 (last $?=0)> find -name configure.in -exec sed -i -e s,opt/e17/lib/enlightenment,/opt/e17/lib64/enlightenment,g '{}' ';'
18:00 < trb7> so why do i have further below
18:00 < trb7> installation path:.......: /opt/e17/lib/enlightenment/modules/devian
18:00 < trb7> autogen.sh in e17-conf.in, which is being referenced from e-modules.desc, is hook_add preconf 5
18:00 < trb7> so the string replacement should occur before autogen.sh is ran
18:01 < trb7> yep, flists > /opt/e17/lib....
18:01 < trb7> not lib64
18:02 < trb7> but if i comment the [0] . $base/package/*/*/e17-conf.in and add in e-modules.conf , prefix="opt/e17" and autogen=1, after the string replacement, then it goes ok
18:03 < trb7> same thing for adding the string replacement in e17-conf.in, which is an ugly thing to do, because we shouldn't fix an e-modules problem in a generic e17-conf.in
18:03 < rxr> btw. maybe other e17 packages need to be tweaked if other external code pieces search for modules at that location
18:04 < trb7> hmm, so far, all e17 stuff is in place, in /opt/e17/lib64
18:05 < trb7> i have nothing in /opt/e17/lib
18:05 < trb7> if i try to start e17 as it is
18:05 < trb7> i get an error msg saying there are no modules
18:05 < trb7> only alternative is to copy them by hand to ~/.e/e/modules/
18:05 < trb7> or to lib64, which is even uglier
18:05 < trb7> :)
18:05 < trb7> i just don't understand why this is happening
18:06 < trb7> 1m, let me check debug.sh again
18:06 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2
18:06 < rxr> my ppc64 e17 rebuild is mostly done I'll see soon as well
18:06 < rxr> moin misl !!!
18:07 < misl> hi rxr, how are things going?
18:07 < trb7> hi misl
18:07 < misl> hi folks
18:07 < misl> hi trb7
18:07 < rxr> misl: do lala, to much work, annoying uni the usual stuff ,-)
18:08 < rxr> misl: and on your side ?
18:08 < misl> Quite busy, but everything is fine :)
18:08 < rxr> nice to hear
18:08 < rxr> misl: greetings to your family
18:09 < rxr> how is merlin ?
18:09 < misl> thanx, he is great but naughty :)
18:09 < morfoh> re hi misl + trb7 + HA
18:09 < misl> hi morofh
18:09 < morfoh> misl: as naughty as daddy :p
18:10 < misl> morfoh: almost ;-)
18:10 < morfoh> :)
18:10 < morfoh> misl: wait a bit ... hge still has some time to evolve :)
18:10 < misl> lol
18:10 < morfoh> /hge/he/
18:10 < morfoh> misl: and yours is nearly over :p
18:10 * morfoh hides
18:11 < misl> just in time, I was about to slap you
18:11 < morfoh> :p
18:11 < misl> :-D
18:12 < morfoh> misl: let's see how your little naughty fella will behave if there is another naughty kid around :)
18:12 < misl> Does anyone know of a laptop that has no problems running T2.
18:12 < misl> morfoh: we will soon find out :)
18:13 < morfoh> misl: :)
18:13 < misl> I am looking for a new laptop
18:13 < trb7> hi morfoh
18:13 < morfoh> misl: IBM TP 385XD Pentium MMX
18:13 < morfoh> :p
18:13 < misl> morfoh: I said a new one
18:14 < morfoh> 20:21 < misl> Does anyone know of a laptop that has no problems running T2.
18:14 < morfoh> :p
18:14 < misl> My current one is even better. IBM TP A31p
18:15 < misl> [20:19] I am looking for a new laptop
18:15 < morfoh> misl: but it hasn't a mobile cpu
18:15 < morfoh> misl: that was a different question
18:15 < misl> morfoh: Only because I was so polite to answer you first :-p
18:15 < morfoh> misl: and really ... what should I say regarding this statement ?
18:16 < misl> check mate
18:16 < morfoh> yeah misl ... great ... get a new one! :p
18:16 * morfoh hides again :)
18:17 < misl> bbl
18:17 < morfoh> cu misl boy :)
19:12 < trb7> brb
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19:29 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.2.0-rc RELEASED | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/
19:29 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Fri Jun 2 17:55:27 2006]
19:29 [Users #t2]
19:29 [@ChanServ] [ dsoul ] [ LMJ ] [ morfoh] [ sepp_] [ valentin]
19:29 [ acehunky] [ idealm] [ Lucifer_arma] [ mtr ] [ tdi ] [ _Ragnar_]
19:29 [ Baldzius] [ karasz] [ misl ] [ rxr ] [ The13]
19:29 [ CIA-3 ] [ laj_ ] [ mnemoc ] [ rxr_ ] [ trb7 ]
19:29 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 22 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 21 normal]
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19:53 < trb7> bbl
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21:00 < nick01> hi
21:00 < nick01> anyone around ?
21:01 < nick01> the ppc version does it have vlc ?
21:02 < karasz> nick01? ;)
21:02 < nick01> yeah
21:02 < nick01> :)
21:02 < karasz> usually every version has all the packs.
21:02 < nick01> including vlc ?
21:02 < karasz> dar se mai intampla uneori ca pe unele arhitecturi unele pachete sa bu se compileze cu succes. ;)
21:03 < nick01> esti roman hehe
21:03 < karasz> se mai intampla si asta.
21:03 < nick01> esti dev ?
21:03 < karasz> mv to query.
21:03 < nick01> ?
21:03 < nick01> k
21:04 < mnemoc> o_O
21:06 < karasz> mnemoc: ?
21:08 < mnemoc> you talking on that ugly language here was quite impressive
21:08 < mnemoc> even shocking ,-)
21:09 < nick01> lol
21:09 < karasz> mnemoc: ?
21:09 < mnemoc> -_-
21:10 * karasz is shutting up. Doesn't want to disturb master mnemocs ears with that ugly language (btw that ugly language is similar to masters mothertongue) o-O
21:11 < mnemoc> :p
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21:13 * karasz wonders why on earth is talking in mothertongue impressive... o-O
21:14 < mnemoc> i have never ever seen it before
21:15 < mnemoc> and as everything done for the first time is difficult
21:15 < karasz> someone talkin in his mothertongue?!?
21:15 < karasz> don't you speack yours? ;)
21:15 < nick01> LOL
21:15 < mnemoc> here??
21:15 < karasz> even.
21:15 < mnemoc> :)
21:16 < mnemoc> pero el castellano no es feo :)
21:16 < nick01> what's feo ?
21:16 < karasz> feo?
21:16 < karasz> :D
21:16 < mnemoc> ugly
21:16 < nick01> lol
21:16 < mnemoc> :)
21:16 < karasz> ahum.
21:16 < karasz> i guess that only that is not ugly, all the other are, right?
21:17 < mnemoc> right
21:17 < nick01> haha
21:17 < mnemoc> everythign i don't know is ugly
21:17 < karasz> btw, mnemoc how is your other ugly language doing?
21:17 < mnemoc> bad :(
21:17 < mnemoc> i have never been good for the languages :\
21:18 < karasz> so keine deutsche Sprache schon?
21:19 < mnemoc> ack :\
21:19 < karasz> nevermind, my mandrin is even worst... :(
21:19 < mnemoc> :D
21:19 < karasz> but i progress in thai quite well...
21:19 < karasz> not that i need it :(
21:22 < nick01>
21:22 < nick01> I'll be back tomorrow
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--- Log closed Sun Jun 04 00:00:54 2006