--- Log opened Wed May 31 00:00:29 2006 00:17 < trb7> good night 00:17 -!- trb7 [n=netstati@bl5-233-178.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:33 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.46.91] has joined #t2 01:53 -!- morfoh [n=morfoh@e178030125.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:17 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@pD9E11CB0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 03:30 -!- mtr [n=Michael@pD9E124CA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:30 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr 03:44 -!- xaxes|free [n=xaxes|fr@server.foonative.org] has left #t2 [] 07:09 -!- You're now known as rxr 07:37 -!- Tauras [n=tauras@mailsrv.3cx.com] has joined #t2 07:37 < Tauras> hello 07:39 < rxr> hi Tauras 07:43 < Baldzius> hi rxr Tauras 07:44 < rxr> hi Baldzius 07:44 < CIA-3> rene * r17713 /trunk/package/multimedia/libzvbi/libzvbi.desc: * updated libzvbi (0.2.21 -> 0.2.22) 07:46 < CIA-3> rene * r17714 /trunk/misc/share/DownloadTranslations: 07:46 < CIA-3> * fixed DowloadTranslations to not use mesh for downloads, it barely 07:46 < CIA-3> has the files within days after the announcement, use switch instead 07:46 < CIA-3> which appears to be more up-to-date 07:47 < CIA-3> aldas * r17715 /trunk/package/gnome2/vte/vte.desc: 07:47 < CIA-3> * downdated vte (0.13.1 -> 0.12.2) 07:47 < CIA-3> * downdated to the latest stable since 0.13.x is unstable, oops 07:49 < CIA-3> aldas * r17716 /trunk/package/printing/cups/ (cups.conf cups.desc cups.init gcc-4.0.patch): 07:49 < CIA-3> * updated cups (1.1.23 -> 1.2.1) 07:49 < CIA-3> * removed gcc-4.0.patch - obsolete 07:49 < CIA-3> * copyright update 07:50 < Baldzius> kde 3.5.3 is coming in several min 07:50 < rxr> nice 07:52 < Baldzius> i waited for it whole week as they added cups 1.2.x support in 3.5.3 07:52 < Baldzius> all other cups dependats compile nicely 07:53 < rxr> oh 08:12 < rxr> on ppc64 I see not a single regression with latest binutils and gcc btw. 08:12 < rxr> though one ICE on ppc64 is not yet fixed - sigh 08:18 < Baldzius> :) 08:23 < Baldzius> rxr: we have a small problem with GNOME tm due 'gtk-update-icon-cache' which lead to shared-files conflict 08:23 < Baldzius> recently more projects started using it 08:24 < Baldzius> it can be fixed by patching by i think we will f* up one day if more projects will start using it 08:25 < Baldzius> maybe you could look at it and find a _smart_ solution as i didn't find any 08:25 < Baldzius> now we have: Found shared files with other packages: 08:25 < Baldzius> opt/gnome2/share/icons/hicolor/icon-theme.cache: anjuta dasher file-roller gnopernicus gossip gucharmap seahorse 08:26 < Baldzius> i guess it's all , for now 08:41 < CIA-3> aldas * r17718 /trunk/package/kde/kdeaccessibility/kdeaccessibility.desc: * updated kdeaccessibility (3.5.2 -> 3.5.3) 08:41 < rxr> Baldzius: hm, I did not notice those 08:41 < CIA-3> aldas * r17720 /trunk/package/kde/kdeadmin/kdeadmin.desc: * updated kdeadmin (3.5.2 -> 3.5.3) 08:41 < CIA-3> aldas * r17721 /trunk/package/kde/kdeartwork/kdeartwork.desc: * updated kdeartwork (3.5.2 -> 3.5.3) 08:42 < rxr> either patch, pass some variable assignment (ICONCACHE=true whatever) or a wrapper which wrapps it away generically 08:42 < CIA-3> aldas * r17722 /trunk/package/kde/kdebase/kdebase.desc: * updated kdebase (3.5.2 -> 3.5.3) 08:43 < CIA-3> aldas * r17717 /trunk/package/kde/arts/arts.desc: * updated arts (1.5.2 -> 1.5.3) 08:43 < CIA-3> aldas * r17719 /trunk/package/kde/kdeaddons/kdeaddons.desc: * updated kdeaddons (3.5.2 -> 3.5.3) 08:43 < CIA-3> aldas * r17723 /trunk/package/kde/kdebindings/kdebindings.desc: * updated kdebindings (3.5.2 -> 3.5.3) 08:44 < CIA-3> aldas * r17725 /trunk/package/kde/kdegames/kdegames.desc: * updated kdegames (3.5.2 -> 3.5.3) 08:45 < CIA-3> aldas * r17729 /trunk/package/kde/kdenetwork/kdenetwork.desc: * updated kdenetwork (3.5.2 -> 3.5.3) 08:45 < CIA-3> aldas * r17724 /trunk/package/kde/kdeedu/kdeedu.desc: * updated kdeedu (3.5.2 -> 3.5.3) 08:45 < CIA-3> aldas * r17726 /trunk/package/kde/kdegraphics/kdegraphics.desc: * updated kdegraphics (3.5.2 -> 3.5.3) 08:45 < CIA-3> aldas * r17727 /trunk/package/kde/kdelibs/kdelibs.desc: * updated kdelibs (3.5.2 -> 3.5.3) 08:45 < CIA-3> aldas * r17728 /trunk/package/kde/kdemultimedia/kdemultimedia.desc: * updated kdemultimedia (3.5.2 -> 3.5.3) 08:45 < CIA-3> aldas * r17730 /trunk/package/kde/kdepim/kdepim.desc: * updated kdepim (3.5.2 -> 3.5.3) 08:46 < CIA-3> aldas * r17731 /trunk/package/kde/kdesdk/kdesdk.desc: * updated kdesdk (3.5.2 -> 3.5.3) 08:46 < CIA-3> aldas * r17732 /trunk/package/kde/kdetoys/kdetoys.desc: * updated kdetoys (3.5.2 -> 3.5.3) 08:46 < CIA-3> aldas * r17733 /trunk/package/kde/kdeutils/kdeutils.desc: * updated kdeutils (3.5.2 -> 3.5.3) 08:46 < CIA-3> aldas * r17734 /trunk/package/kde/kdevelop/kdevelop.desc: * updated kdevelop (3.3.2 -> 3.3.3) 08:46 < CIA-3> aldas * r17735 /trunk/package/kde/kdewebdev/kdewebdev.desc: * updated kdewebdev (3.5.2 -> 3.5.3) 08:47 < Tauras> why do you commit every file separately? 08:48 < Baldzius> 1. mnemoc asked so 08:48 < Baldzius> 2. for safety (more important) 08:48 < Tauras> I would do it in one go 'kde upgrade (3.5.2 -> 3.5.3) 08:48 < Tauras> safety? 08:49 < rxr> yes, this is what I also argue all the time 08:49 < Baldzius> i can easily see if i didn't miss anything 08:49 < Baldzius> like cksum or smthg 08:49 < rxr> Baldzius: I would rather like to have atomic commits, you can scroll over the ./misc/archive/Commit.sh diff do see if all files have the checksum and such 08:50 < Baldzius> rxr: i don't want to mess up things especially before final 2.2 :) 08:50 < rxr> though mnemoc claimed the opposite I find it also easier to merge such atomic commits to branches, e.g. what I have soon to do when we have the 2.2 branch 08:50 < Baldzius> next time i'do what ever you want on trunk :) 08:51 < rxr> you do not have to hunt for your 11 revisions and make sure you either have them all or no-other in between if you want to merge them all 08:51 < Baldzius> yeah i know that, old habbit :( 08:51 < rxr> Baldzius: I rather like groupped, atomic commits - also to make merging actually easier 08:51 < rxr> of course only where it makes sense 08:51 < Baldzius> it's really easier to merge 1 commit 08:52 < rxr> e.g. menmoc said on gnome it is more painful when half of the stuff has not the gnome release version number 08:52 < rxr> this gnome case is really a bit problematic but mostly only applies to gnome, xfce and e17 have either also groupped releases or in the later case one CVS date 08:53 < Baldzius> i can imagine, merging gnome should be really pain in the a** 08:53 < rxr> on gnome we agreed that committing the core packages with the same gnome release version in one go and all the other colateral bits with versions such as 0.5 1.2 or whatever the gnome people release to the world seperately 08:54 < rxr> but I can live with most ways, I only dopped in when Tauras mentioned it ,-) 08:54 < Baldzius> oh , ok , i'll remember that :) 08:54 * rxr loading the dual-core ppc64 with a kde test-build ,-) 08:55 < Baldzius> that would be nice as i tested only kdelibs 08:56 < rxr> valentin: graphic/asymptote [1.06 2.2-trunk] needs a Makefile patch adaption - I'll svn revert my local update - maybe you wanna do that some time 08:57 < Baldzius> btw, i can't update kde-i18n stuff due reduced internet speed 08:57 < Baldzius> if it's urgent - you can update 08:57 < Baldzius> otherwise i'll update them in evening 08:59 < rxr> evening sounds fine 08:59 < rxr> have some workload on my desk 08:59 < Baldzius> ok 09:00 < Baldzius> rxr: btw, last question: when you are planning 2.2 branch? 09:01 < rxr> when we tag 2.2.0-final 09:01 < rxr> (or if someone has a big change before that time that he/she wants to commit to trunk) 09:01 < rxr> I hope to tag -final within the next 7 days 09:02 < Baldzius> ic 09:14 < CIA-3> aldas * r17736 /trunk/package/base/linux26/linux26.desc: 09:14 < CIA-3> * updated linux26 (2.6.16.18 -> 2.6.16.19) 09:14 < CIA-3> * security update: CVE-2006-1343 09:39 < rxr> heh - saw that too 09:39 < rxr> what is really annocing is that you waste a lot of space on your system if you rebuild all the security patch kernels 09:39 < rxr> each will yield new kernel images and a fat module subtree 09:40 < rxr> maybe we have to think how to improve this 09:40 < rxr> also for Build-Target with such sec. updates in between you have to make sure you wipe the kernel before continuing the build or rebuild - otherwise you will get a lot more files in the kernel packages 09:40 < rxr> ideas welcome 09:41 < rxr> (e.g. wiping the minor part at the end and we just name the files after the mejor version part ?) 09:49 < Baldzius> hmm 10:15 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.46.91] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 10:34 -!- idealm [n=ideal@218.82.57.233] has joined #t2 11:19 < CIA-3> chris * r17737 /trunk/package/develop/viewvc/ (. viewvc.cache viewvc.conf viewvc.desc): * added viewvc (1.0.0) - A Web-based Subversion and CVS repository browser. 12:32 < CIA-3> sebastian * r17738 /trunk/package/editors/fxscintilla/fxscintilla.desc: * updated fxscintilla (1.63 -> 2006-05-28) 12:32 < CIA-3> sebastian * r17739 /trunk/package/ruby/fxruby/ (fxruby.conf fxruby.desc): * updated fxruby (1.4.5 -> 1.6.0) 13:25 -!- morfoh [n=morfoh@e178041178.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 13:25 < morfoh> hi 13:29 < morfoh> rxr: do you remember the reason to disabing the detection for python site-packages while building python swig bindings for svn ? due to the change done on r9106 the bindings are not installed in the site-packages folder anymore ... so most python programs depending on that will not find them 13:29 < morfoh> I vote to revert that change 13:31 < morfoh> oh! but unfortunately the commit was mixed with an update ... so I vote for removing the comments 13:36 < rxr> morfoh: who did that change? 13:36 < rxr> I do not remeber off hand 13:36 < rxr> maybe SVN did just not build with them at that time ? 13:37 < morfoh> rxr: you did the change 13:37 < morfoh> rxr: I don't think that it was a problem of not building ... it is harmless 13:38 < morfoh> but I think we should reenable the detection 13:41 < morfoh> rxr: I'm testing it right now with the uncommented "python hack" 13:41 < morfoh> if I'll not see any major problems with it I commit the change 13:48 < rxr> I doubt I removed it just for the fun 13:48 < rxr> I remember the python bindings have been historically quite fragile I guess this is why we disabled them at some point 13:48 < rxr> if it builds today, sure readd it ,-) 13:49 < morfoh> rxr: no one was saying that you removed it for the fun of it ;) 13:50 < morfoh> rxr: and there are problems with it ... yes. I'll try to fix them 13:57 < rxr> it does still not build ? 14:12 < morfoh> yep ... but it seems that they changed the way slightly how to install it in a different place 14:31 -!- acehunky [n=chat_jok@59.184.55.52] has joined #t2 14:34 * Lucifer_arma is away: school 15:30 < morfoh> bbl 15:41 < acehunky> hi morfoh 15:42 < mnemoc> he left to a meeting 15:42 < acehunky> aah okk 16:06 -!- Tauras [n=tauras@mailsrv.3cx.com] has left #t2 ["Kopete 0.11.1 : http://kopete.kde.org"] 16:39 < CIA-3> rene * r17740 /trunk/package/perl/perl-mailtools/ (. perl-mailtools.cache perl-mailtools.desc): * added perl-mailtools (1.74) - A set of perl modules related to mail applications 16:39 < CIA-3> rene * r17742 /trunk/package/perl/perl-mime-types/ (. perl-mime-types.cache perl-mime-types.desc): * added perl-mime-types (1.16) - Data-structure to keep knowledge about various MIME types 16:39 < CIA-3> rene * r17743 /trunk/package/perl/perl-io-stringy/ (. perl-io-stringy.cache perl-io-stringy.desc): * added perl-io-stringy (2.110) - I/O on in-core objects like strings and arrays 16:40 < CIA-3> rene * r17741 /trunk/package/perl/perl-mail-box/ (. perl-mail-box.cache perl-mail-box.desc): * added perl-mail-box (2.065) - Powerful methods to handle e-mail in Perl 16:40 < CIA-3> rene * r17744 /trunk/package/perl/perl-user-identity/ (. perl-user-identity.cache perl-user-identity.desc): * added perl-user-identity (0.90) - A Perl module that maintains info about a physical person 16:48 < CIA-3> aldas * r17745 /trunk/package/kde/kde-i18n-bg/kde-i18n-bg.desc: * updated kde-i18n-bg (3.5.2 -> 3.5.3) 16:49 < CIA-3> aldas * r17746 /trunk/package/kde/kde-i18n-de/kde-i18n-de.desc: * updated kde-i18n-de (3.5.2 -> 3.5.3) 16:49 < CIA-3> aldas * r17747 /trunk/package/kde/kde-i18n-es/kde-i18n-es.desc: * updated kde-i18n-es (3.5.2 -> 3.5.3) 16:49 < CIA-3> aldas * r17748 /trunk/package/kde/kde-i18n-fr/kde-i18n-fr.desc: * updated kde-i18n-fr (3.5.2 -> 3.5.3) 16:49 < CIA-3> aldas * r17749 /trunk/package/kde/kde-i18n-it/kde-i18n-it.desc: * updated kde-i18n-it (3.5.2 -> 3.5.3) 17:08 < _Ragnar_> moin 17:09 < rxr> moin _Ragnar_ 17:10 < _Ragnar_> hi rene how's it going? 17:10 < rxr> oh - so lala as usual ... 17:10 < rxr> and for you ? 17:10 < _Ragnar_> same 17:10 < _Ragnar_> could be better 17:18 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=dave@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:27 -!- sparc-kly [n=sparc@64.237.248.56] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:48 < rxr> I think the kde packages did built all fine on ppc64 17:49 -!- sparc-kly [n=sparc@64.237.248.56] has joined #t2 18:01 -!- idealm [n=ideal@218.82.57.233] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:14 < CIA-3> rene * r17750 /trunk/package/x86/grub/mactel.patch: 18:14 < CIA-3> * patched grub to not hang enabling the A20 gate on Intel-based Apple 18:14 < CIA-3> Macintosh hardware (only tested on an Apple Macbook so far - I hope 18:14 < CIA-3> it still boots on classic x86 hardware ,-) 18:45 -!- sparc-kly [n=sparc@64.237.248.56] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:45 -!- sparc-kly_ [n=sparc@64.237.248.56] has joined #t2 19:28 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178188006.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 19:28 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.2.0-rc TAGGED | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/ 19:28 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Tue May 30 22:57:23 2006] 19:28 [Users #t2] 19:28 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-3] [ LMJ ] [ mtr ] [ sepp_ ] [ valentin] 19:28 [ acehunky] [ dsoul] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly_] [ _Ragnar_] 19:28 [ Baldzius] [ laj_ ] [ morfoh] [ rxr_] [ tdi ] 19:28 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal] 19:28 -!- [freenode-info] please register your nickname...don't forget to auto-identify! http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 19:28 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004 19:28 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 36 secs 19:42 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178168216.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:47 -!- sepp_ is now known as sepp 19:47 < sepp> hello :) 19:51 < CIA-3> rene * r17751 /trunk/package/xorg/xorg-server/xcfgt2.sh: 19:51 < CIA-3> * updated xcfgt2 matching to match Intel 950 (imperfect pciid 19:51 < CIA-3> does only list intel mobline, sigh) 20:59 < CIA-3> amery * r17752 /trunk/target/: * changed mnemosyne location at svn:externals to the new read-only location 21:02 -!- sparc-kly_ is now known as sparc-kly 21:06 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.149.76.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 21:18 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.132.125.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] --- Log closed Thu Jun 01 00:00:35 2006