--- Log opened Wed May 10 00:00:19 2006 00:23 -!- keinek [n=keinek@200.70.161.19] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:34 -!- idealm [n=ideal@58.33.50.207] has joined #t2 00:43 -!- keinek [n=keinek@200.70.145.83] has joined #t2 01:08 -!- idealm [n=ideal@58.33.50.207] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:19 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.46.91] has joined #t2 02:58 -!- keinek [n=keinek@200.70.145.83] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:31 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.157.240.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:33 -!- sparc-kly [n=PrLora@64.237.251.194] has joined #t2 03:50 -!- madtux [i=miguel@pf0.hostarica.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 06:16 -!- idealm_ [n=ideal@222.66.46.91] has joined #t2 06:16 -!- dsoul_ [i=darksoul@vice.ii.uj.edu.pl] has joined #t2 06:31 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.46.91] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:34 -!- dsoul [i=darksoul@vice.ii.uj.edu.pl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:34 -!- dsoul_ is now known as dsoul 06:45 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.201] has quit [Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)] 07:04 -!- You're now known as rxr 07:14 < CIA-7> rene * r17416 /trunk/package/network/dhcp/dhcp.desc: * updated dhcp (3.0.3 -> 3.0.4) 07:17 < CIA-7> rene * r17417 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: 07:17 < CIA-7> * added dcraw to the desktop target 07:17 < CIA-7> * disabled the java stuff on the desktop target 07:24 < CIA-7> rene * r17418 /trunk/package/audio/galan/ (galan.desc gcc34.patch): 07:24 < CIA-7> rconstruct : 07:24 < CIA-7> * updated galan (0.2.14 -> 0.3.0beta7) 07:24 < CIA-7> rene * r17419 /trunk/package/audio/sweep/sweep.desc: 07:24 < CIA-7> rconstruct : 07:24 < CIA-7> * updated sweep (0.9.0 -> 0.9.1) 07:53 -!- dsoul_ [i=darksoul@vice.ii.uj.edu.pl] has joined #t2 08:00 -!- morfoh [n=morfoh@p54BED1ED.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 08:01 < morfoh> moin 08:07 -!- dsoul_ [i=darksoul@vice.ii.uj.edu.pl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:10 -!- dsoul [i=darksoul@vice.ii.uj.edu.pl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:13 -!- dsoul [i=darksoul@vice.ii.uj.edu.pl] has joined #t2 08:16 -!- Tauras [n=tauras@mail.2xsoftware.com] has joined #t2 08:17 < Tauras> hello 08:30 < morfoh> hello Tauras 08:31 < Tauras> can one tell me the reason to use root and xroot and pkg and xpkg in Build-Pkg script? 08:31 < Tauras> what is the difference between them? 08:37 < morfoh> Tauras: Documentation/PKG-BUILD-VARS <-- this is the Document describing the build variables 08:39 < Tauras> nad what is pkgfork'd package then? 08:40 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p83.129.184.47.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 08:41 < CIA-7> chris * r17420 /trunk/package/security/cryptsetup-luks/ (. cryptsetup-luks.cache cryptsetup-luks.desc): * added cryptsetup-luks (1.0.3) - A LUKS aware cryptsetup replacement for dm-crypt. 08:42 < Tauras> btw, I heared that logic in t2.2 is changing, can one confirm and give main points please? 09:51 < CIA-7> rene * r17421 /trunk/misc/tools-source/cmd_wrapper.c: 09:51 < CIA-7> * improved cmd_wrapper to use dynamic allocation for the filter 09:51 < CIA-7> argument lists, currently it truncates to 1023x1023 which fails 09:51 < CIA-7> for many packages such as glibc when a GCC_WRAPPER_FILTER is 09:52 < CIA-7> used 09:52 < rxr> Tauras: they are not used in t2 anymore 09:52 < rxr> Tauras: they can be used to build a package under another name 09:52 < rxr> like gcc=gcc-2.95.3-arm-... 09:52 < rxr> (or the other way round, whatever) 09:52 < rxr> ROCK after 2.0 uses it for package forking and/or splitting 09:53 < rxr> we consider this too complex, faulty and evil and do not do such trickery in favour of stability and logicability 09:53 < rxr> but we keep this inside the Build-Pkg to avoid noise in the history and "just in case" 09:54 < Tauras> :) thank you 09:54 < rxr> Tauras: your welcome ,-) 10:03 < CIA-7> rene * r17422 /trunk/misc/tools-source/cmd_wrapper.c: 10:03 < CIA-7> * fixed two comment typos in the latest cmd_wrapper patch, modified 10:03 < CIA-7> the inf. loop for readability and reformated a previously existing 10:03 < CIA-7> code fragment for readability, likewise 10:32 -!- idealm_ [n=ideal@222.66.46.91] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:46 -!- idealm [n=ideal@58.33.50.207] has joined #t2 11:03 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.201] has joined #T2 11:03 < karasz> moin moin 11:15 -!- dsoul_ [i=darksoul@vice.ii.uj.edu.pl] has joined #t2 11:34 -!- dsoul [i=darksoul@vice.ii.uj.edu.pl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:44 < rxr> moin moin karasz 11:47 < CIA-7> rene * r17423 /trunk/misc/tools-source/cmd_wrapper.c: 11:47 < CIA-7> * simplified the new cmd_wrapper filter dynamic allocation, resulting 11:47 < CIA-7> in vast speedups and readability improvements including removal of 11:47 < CIA-7> a goto that was in already the original code! 11:57 < karasz> hello rxr 11:57 < karasz> sorry, i am again in background mode... 12:00 < rxr> yep, me too 12:00 < rxr> cu 12:17 < karasz> cu rxr 13:01 -!- kristian [i=kristian@217.13.205.113] has joined #t2 13:01 < kristian> hi 13:02 < kristian> rxr hast du erfahrung mit ansteuern von flash bausteinen - auf chipebene? 13:02 < kristian> oops english I forgott 13:03 < kristian> rxr do you know something about accessing falsh memory - chip level? 13:27 < tdi> re 13:27 < tdi> moin all 13:35 < karasz> moin tdi 13:40 -!- dsoul_ is now known as dsoul 14:35 < karasz> cu later guys 14:51 < CIA-7> amery * r17424 /trunk/package/network/fnord/ (. fnord.conf fnord.desc): * added fnord (1.10) - A small HTTPD for Linux. 15:14 < LMJ> moin moin 15:15 < rxr> re 15:16 < rxr> kristian: oehm 15:16 < rxr> moderatly 15:19 < kristian> rxr we have a problem concerning access to new modules on the board - you remember the ppc project? 15:21 < kristian> rxr the hardwareguys decided to take new (other manufactor different size - different protocols/maybe also sectorsizes) modules and now we have to change the bootloader and the kernel driver within like 1 week or so. 15:21 < rxr> sounds like fun 15:21 < rxr> well, I overbusy these days right now :-( 15:22 < kristian> rxr the boss wants to know if you think this would be doable 15:22 < kristian> rxr okay 15:23 < kristian> rxr so I can take that part - but they wont see it working within the next month I think - there are to many unforseeable problems 15:27 < rxr> definetly 15:27 < rxr> sue the hardware guys -) 15:27 < kristian> rxr its just strange how such decisions are made in this company 15:27 < Tauras> I have a file in flistdel, and it is marked as orphaned, but it was still installed onto the system :( is there a cleanup? 15:29 < Tauras> kristian: usually these decisions made by non tech people 15:31 < kristian> Tauras well fortunately there are a lot of engineering people working here but noone to organize the chaos, so this kind of decision can go through without even asking the softwareguys - the HW people just pick up - "oh we need mor space" and then thik they are doing us a favor, the problem - just before production and right after our deadline 15:31 < rxr> "this is 2 cent cheaper, get it" 15:32 < rxr> Tauras: since we have not yet fixed all the borkem package's to install all files all the time 15:32 < rxr> (some use e.g. make rules for installation that do not install the file if it has not changed) the orphaned list is still merged back into the flist 15:33 < rxr> Tauras: when you modify a package, mine -rf the pkg and reEmerge it or so 15:33 < kristian> so the project as it is distributed in like 3 companyes gets manufactored at a different place and get into testing to the SW workspace just 1 day before last delivery date 15:33 < kristian> anyway - its my problem now. ;) 15:34 < Tauras> thanks rxr 15:40 < rxr> kristian: mein mittleid ,-) 15:40 < rxr> so - /me away 15:40 < rxr> cu 15:42 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@pD9E112F9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 15:49 -!- mtr [n=Michael@pD9E13629.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:49 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr 16:20 -!- Tauras [n=tauras@mail.2xsoftware.com] has quit ["Kopete 0.11.1 : http://kopete.kde.org"] 16:23 < rxr> re 16:23 < morfoh> wb rxr 16:25 < rxr> hi morfoh 16:25 < morfoh> hi rxr 16:26 < morfoh> rxr: btw, any news regarding the xfixes issues ? ;) 16:26 < rxr> nope, I have not yet reloaded the bugzilla page 16:26 < rxr> I think I'll downdate soon if there is no upstream resolution 16:27 < morfoh> rxr: ack ... at least on my last image downdating libxfixes and fixesproto was "solving" the problem 16:28 < rxr> yep, here two 16:31 < CIA-7> rene * r17425 /trunk/package/audio/galan/gcc34.patch: * removed empty galan gcc.patch left over from applied patch 16:53 -!- idealm [n=ideal@58.33.50.207] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:13 -!- THe13 [i=MMM@213.252.233.162] has joined #t2 17:13 -!- THe13 [i=MMM@213.252.233.162] has left #t2 [] 18:13 < karasz> moin moin 18:14 < mnemoc> wb karasz 18:16 < karasz> thx mnemoc 19:06 -!- sparc-kly [n=PrLora@64.237.251.194] has quit ["Get MacIrssi - http://www.g1m0.se/macirssi/"] 19:13 < tdi> morfoh: grrrrrrrrrrr 19:13 < tdi> have you been to http://www.vopsecurity.org/index.html 19:26 * rxr off 19:26 < rxr> cu 19:36 < morfoh> tdi: hi :) 19:37 < morfoh> wb tavarish karasz :) 19:42 < karasz> kommrad morfoh ;) 19:55 < tdi> hi 19:55 < tdi> morfoh: i so f* angry 19:55 < tdi> at myself 19:58 < tdi> seth bin # i386-pc-linux-gnu-g++ 19:58 < tdi> gcc-config error: Could not run/locate "i386-pc-linux-gnu-g++" 19:58 < tdi> co to k* jest ? 19:59 < tdi> osrry 19:59 < tdi> not here 20:30 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178185025.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 20:30 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.1.1 and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/ 20:30 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Mar 11 22:55:45 2006] 20:30 [Users #t2] 20:30 [@ChanServ] [ karasz ] [ LMJ ] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ _Ragnar_] 20:30 [ CIA-7 ] [ kristian] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ tdi ] 20:30 [ dsoul ] [ laj ] [ morfoh] [ rxr_] [ valentin] 20:30 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal] 20:30 -!- [freenode-info] please register your nickname...don't forget to auto-identify! http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 20:30 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004 20:31 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 31 secs 20:35 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178153025.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20:35 -!- You're now known as rxr 21:00 -!- morfoh [n=morfoh@p54BED1ED.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:00 -!- morfoh [n=morfoh@p54BEEA84.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 21:16 -!- veki [n=vedran@gw.gnucentar.org.yu] has joined #t2 21:22 < mnemoc> veki: no greetings? 21:22 < karasz> let's do ti for him ;) 21:22 < karasz> hello veki .... 21:22 < veki> oh sorry I was working something urgently on another computer 21:23 < veki> HD is dying... 21:23 < mnemoc> veki: good luck 21:23 < veki> muchas gracias L-) 21:23 < veki> :-) 21:23 < mnemoc> karasz: :) 21:25 < veki> mnemoc: I have sent you openOffice presentation , check your mailbox 21:26 * mnemoc opennning 21:28 < morfoh> hi veki 21:29 < veki> hi, how are you? 21:29 < morfoh> veki: fine ... thanks :) 21:29 < morfoh> veki: hope you're fine too :) 21:30 < veki> ah yes, working a lot, travel on Saturday to USA< Chicago to attend teh conference, and speak about our projects and you guys 21:30 < veki> check your mail, morfoh 21:31 < mnemoc> oh 21:32 < veki> ah yes, in my country people say that someone think on you when you do hiccups 21:32 < mnemoc> :D 21:32 < veki> so if you were doing hiccups, that i sbecause I thought about you ;) 21:32 < mnemoc> *g* 21:32 < veki> I put you in all my docuemnst and presentation at the conference 21:33 < mnemoc> pegasus and t2 are your weapons? 21:33 < veki> in a way yes as concepts, pegasos as open hardware platform and T2 as software tool 21:34 < veki> but not oly as concepts, as real solutions too :-) 21:34 < tdi> 21:35 < mnemoc> and what others do you have? :) 21:35 < veki> I sould be glad if there will be more things as pegasos 21:35 < tdi> beretta 21:35 < veki> I have been told to focus on 2 conceptually good 21:35 < veki> but there are many, arm processors , xilinx fpgas... 21:35 < veki> beretta is good also :-) 21:36 < mnemoc> tdi: :) 21:36 < veki> but at the conference organized by microsoft 21:38 < mnemoc> *g* 21:38 < veki> another good weapon is our plum brandy 21:39 < veki> when you drink it it flashes your bios ;) 21:39 < mnemoc> hehe 21:39 < karasz> incoming daily: 21:39 < karasz> "All warfare is based on deception." 21:39 < veki> good ;) 21:39 < veki> I see 21:40 < veki> our plum brandy is very very string, it turns your memory from big endian into little endian in one second 21:40 < veki> it is strong 21:41 < karasz> incoming rant title:"GIMP" 21:41 < karasz> GIMP-> Graphical and Imposible to Manipulate Program 21:41 < veki> he he 21:47 < veki> karasz: did you try to import fax tiff files into GIMP? 21:48 < _Ragnar_> *lol* 21:50 < karasz> veki ... worst. 21:50 < karasz> i tried to do some photo editing..... 21:50 < veki> you will not succeed in openoffice also, it does not recognize tags for pages 21:50 < veki> only Image Magic and Kfax do that properly 21:51 < veki> on windows even Winfax is not doing that always properly 21:52 < veki> so GIMP=Gimp Is My Pain 21:53 < veki> I asked openffice guys a coupel of months ago to take care on filters for tiff fax files, but no results yet 21:53 < karasz> veki right now i am exiled on *doze. 21:54 < veki> I do not use it in teh last 7 years, it makes me nervous and physician prescribed abstinence from windows 21:55 < veki> so I am ok now, some free apps suck also 21:58 < morfoh> veki: nice sheets you send 22:02 < veki> thanks, please feel free to send comments 22:07 < tdi> morfoh: ping on priv 22:12 < mnemoc> gn8 veki, tdi, karasz and mofoh 22:13 < mnemoc> gn8 _Ragnar_ too :) 22:13 < mnemoc> bye 22:13 < _Ragnar_> gn8 :) 22:14 < veki> good night 22:22 < karasz> gn8 mnemoc 22:23 < karasz> geeeeee, this gimp reminds me of an old FPS.... and especially of a quote from it 22:25 < karasz> waz smth like ... `Come on out, Morphix! There's only two ways this can end...and in both of them, you die!` 22:26 < veki> guys I have to sleep also, good night 22:26 < veki> cu 22:26 < karasz> cu veki 22:26 < veki> cu karasz 22:26 < karasz> gn8 ;) 22:27 -!- veki [n=vedran@gw.gnucentar.org.yu] has left #t2 [] 22:27 < morfoh> gn8 tavarish karasz 22:28 < karasz> eh? 22:29 < karasz> that was for veki, i am stil here... 22:29 < karasz> loosing a war with gimp, i am afraid... 22:30 < morfoh> karasz: yeah ... now that you're not going to bed I have to ... 22:30 < morfoh> gn8 :) 22:30 < karasz> cu kommrad 22:30 < morfoh> yup :) 22:42 -!- tdi is now known as rejn 22:42 -!- rejn is now known as tdi 22:43 -!- tdi is now known as bruce_eckel 22:44 -!- bruce_eckel is now known as tdi 22:57 -!- morfoh [n=morfoh@p54BEEA84.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:00 < karasz> tdi: ? 23:01 < tdi> just getting more stupid 23:01 < karasz> are you playin with Fredy Kruger? 23:01 < karasz> a.k.a. Java ;) --- Log closed Thu May 11 00:00:25 2006