--- Log opened Sat Apr 22 00:00:27 2006 00:51 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.67.237.53] has joined #t2 01:51 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.139.195.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 02:15 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.153.40.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 02:37 -!- mtr [n=Michael@pD9E12ABA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 02:51 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@pD9E10830.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:03 < rxr> re 07:04 < Baldzius> good morning rxr :) 07:07 < rxr> moin Baldzius 07:07 < rxr> _Ragnar_: what downdate ? 07:08 < Baldzius> rxr: he was talking about _make_ 07:08 < _Ragnar_> make to .80 from .81 07:08 < _Ragnar_> 81 breaks orbit2 07:09 < rxr> _Ragnar_: this make is a major release since years, and is significant faster and such on certain makefile constructs 07:09 < rxr> (e.g. gcc *java*) 07:09 < rxr> is the makefile stuff of orbit strange or valid ? 07:09 < _Ragnar_> I dunno how do I debug that??? 07:09 < _Ragnar_> it just loops endlessly 07:09 < Baldzius> but it causes endless loop 07:09 < rxr> maybe contact the make maintainers for comment ... 07:10 < rxr> well inf. loop should be reported in any case I think 07:10 < rxr> most probably you get some one-liner hotfix out of the maintainers then, anyway 07:12 < Baldzius> me wonders why ragnar and me gets it, i haven't seen anyone else complaining about that 07:13 < rxr> I'm not sure I build orbit .. 07:14 < sepp> == 04/22/06 08:22:17 =[5]=> Finished building package orbit2. 07:14 < sepp> :) 07:14 < rxr> /var/adm/packages/orbit2 07:14 < rxr> make --version 07:14 < rxr> GNU Make 3.81 07:15 < Baldzius> --^ that's what i am talking about 07:15 < Baldzius> at least i am not alone :) 07:16 < Baldzius> but it's really strange 07:34 < rxr> todays google logo is nice (tm) 07:55 < CIA-7> aldas * r17176 /trunk/package/database/mysql/mysql.desc: * updated mysql (5.0.20 -> 5.0.20a) 07:58 < CIA-7> aldas * r17177 /trunk/package/network/nginx/nginx.desc: * updated nginx (0.3.38 -> 0.3.41) 08:05 < Baldzius> hm and where is 17175 and 17178 08:05 < Baldzius> both related to gnome-vfs 08:06 < rxr> you mean here on IRC? 08:06 < rxr> CIA laggage ... 08:07 < Baldzius> i'd rather say CIA filtering everything related gnome-vfs :) 08:07 < rxr> heh 08:07 < rxr> that also is an idea ,-)) 08:09 < CIA-7> rene * r17179 /trunk/package/gnome2/seahorse/seahorse.desc: * updated seahorse (0.9.0 -> 0.9.1), reenabled it by default and marked it NOPARALLEL 08:10 < Baldzius> you see :) 08:11 < rxr> yeah 08:11 < rxr> maybe the cia people do not like gnome too much and drop related messages randomly ,-) 08:12 < Baldzius> :))) 08:50 -!- mtr [n=Michael@pD9E12ABA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:04 < CIA-7> aldas * r17180 /trunk/package/develop/uncrustify/uncrustify.desc: * updated uncrustify (0.0.15 -> 0.0.16) 09:04 < CIA-7> aldas * r17181 /trunk/package/develop/git/git.desc: * updated git (1.2.6 -> 1.3.0) 09:04 < CIA-7> aldas * r17178 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-vfs/ (gnome-vfs.conf gnome-vfs.desc): 09:04 < CIA-7> * removed gnome-vfs.conf - it compiles with hal now 09:04 < CIA-7> * copyright update 09:04 < CIA-7> rene * r17175 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-vfs/gnome-vfs.desc: * updated gnome-vfs (2.14.0 -> 2.14.1) 09:04 < CIA-7> aldas * r17182 /trunk/package/develop/cogito/cogito.desc: * updated cogito (0.17.1 -> 0.17.2) 09:08 < Baldzius> rxr: any objections if i update fontconfig ( 2.3.93 -> 2.3.94 ) ? 09:08 < Baldzius> can't test as my ref is done 09:08 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: sepp, Baldzius, sparc-kly_ 09:09 -!- Netsplit over, joins: sepp, sparc-kly_, Baldzius 09:17 < LMJ> hello the chan 09:21 < Baldzius> hi LMJ 09:22 < Baldzius> == 04/22/06 07:24:02 =[5]=> Finished building package orbit2. 09:22 < Baldzius> as i thought 09:22 < Baldzius> _Ragnar_ : try orbit2 as noparallel 09:27 -!- sparc-kly__ [n=mubex@64.237.240.216] has joined #t2 09:33 < rxr> Baldzius: no idea what they changed in fontconfig ... 09:34 < rxr> some testing is prefered ,-) since I plan some 2.2-stable sooner than later 09:34 < Baldzius> oh g*, don't want to start new ref for 1 package :) 09:35 < rxr> well, commit then ,-) 09:35 < Baldzius> ok :) 09:35 < Baldzius> in that case you have my vote for 2.2 branch 09:35 < Baldzius> as i finished updating :) 09:36 < rxr> heh 09:36 < CIA-7> aldas * r17183 /trunk/package/xorg/fontconfig/ (fontconfig.conf fontconfig.desc): 09:36 < CIA-7> * updated fontconfig (2.3.93 -> 2.3.94) 09:36 < CIA-7> * copyright update 09:36 < rxr> maybe I should do some one pass sparc fixup before branching ,-)) 09:37 < Baldzius> rxr: as you wish i don't push you :) 09:37 < Baldzius> just informed 09:38 < Baldzius> as i promised later :) 09:38 < rxr> Baldzius: did you build a ref or your "usual working set of packages"? 09:38 < Baldzius> damn, s/later/earlier/ 09:39 < Baldzius> what you mean -> "usual working set of packages"? 09:40 < Baldzius> i build ref to check my local updates, aren't they breaking anything 09:40 < Baldzius> now i am "empty" :) 09:42 < rxr> ok 09:42 < rxr> how many build errors do you have for the ref build ? 09:43 < Baldzius> ~100 09:44 < Baldzius> but i am going to remove all .err and reschedule 09:44 < Baldzius> and try to fix most important packages 09:45 < Baldzius> bbl 09:45 -!- sparc-kly_ [n=mubex@adsl-72-50-97-87.prtc.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:46 < rxr> Baldzius: nice ,-) 09:46 -!- veki [n=vedran@gw.gnucentar.org.yu] has joined #t2 09:48 < rxr> moin veki 09:48 [Users #t2] 09:48 [@ChanServ] [ idealm] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ valentin] 09:48 [ Baldzius] [ karasz] [ mnemoc ] [ sepp ] [ veki ] 09:48 [ CIA-7 ] [ laj ] [ Pakmanorama] [ sparc-kly__] [ _Ragnar_] 09:48 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal] 09:50 < veki> hi 09:51 < veki> how are you? 09:51 < veki> I am planning with my colleagues to do more effort wih T2 ppc on 603e core based System on chip by Freescale 09:52 < veki> I suppose that it should not be special problems , but we may need your help 09:53 < rxr> yep, that should not be a problem 09:53 < rxr> runs on all sort of Freescale iBook systems, IBM stuff and also on cPCI boards lingering around here ... 09:53 < rxr> feel free to drop questions in my inbox if I'm not around here 09:54 < rxr> valentin might also be of help 09:54 < veki> ok, thanks, my colleague that appeared on this channel with nick amb did hoe one probplem that he put on mailing list 09:54 < veki> good, great 09:55 < veki> so may we use E-mail addresses that are on t2 site? 09:57 < rxr> ah on fedora core ? 09:57 < rxr> strange 09:57 < rxr> ok I can take a second look in mine then 10:00 < veki> ok, great 10:09 < LMJ> hello rxr and veki 10:14 < veki> hello 10:14 < veki> how are you? 10:20 < LMJ> fine and you ? 10:25 < veki> oh well, working on t2 for ppc 10:26 < veki> to be more precise 603e based system on chip by Freescale 10:26 < LMJ> good luck ;) 10:27 < LMJ> it's an embedded processor ? 10:28 < veki> actually it is system on chip with 603e core and it should work because gentoo ppc works on it 10:29 < veki> it is you can check the borad on www.genesippc.com/efika.php 10:30 < LMJ> i see 10:31 < veki> I am planning to make it multifunctional depending on which target you bild for it so it can be cheap and felxible cutomer-oriented solution 10:35 < LMJ> great idea 10:35 < LMJ> i had a similar idea 10:36 < LMJ> make target t2 distro for advanced graphic artisit for optimized hardware 10:37 < LMJ> like Apple in fact could do, but full OSS, fast PC hardware and cheaper ;) 10:38 < veki> ok, great idea 10:38 < veki> do you have any site about that 10:38 < LMJ> no 10:38 < LMJ> i've planned that, but i'm too young 10:38 < veki> so you are 6 years old ;-) 10:38 < veki> ? 10:39 < LMJ> no 10:39 < LMJ> 23 10:39 < veki> I knwo, I am kdding 10:39 < LMJ> not enough money to start the biz 10:39 < LMJ> IMHO 10:39 < veki> 23 is not much , I am 18 years older, but anyway, 23 years is enough to create big diffculties to the world ;-) 10:40 < veki> if you have any description fo your projects as a project proposal or so, send me that 10:40 < LMJ> where are you located ? 10:40 < veki> in Belgrade 10:40 < LMJ> ok, France here 10:40 < veki> but I travel a lot, so I am everywhere 10:40 < veki> good 10:41 < LMJ> i estimate the work, it could be done without any problem 10:41 < LMJ> only 1 thing is missing after a fast overview, a font manager on linux 10:41 < veki> hmm 10:41 < LMJ> Print Graphic Artist need to manage fonts in function of the customer 10:42 < LMJ> active/unactive the fonts 10:42 < veki> are there font manager packages available 10:42 < LMJ> not really as Graphic Artist need 10:43 < LMJ> there are 2D Bitmap softs, 2D vectoriel softs, HTML editor, 3D programs, 3D renders, Video compositing programs, etc... 10:43 < veki> I duscussed with some designers about gimp and so, and they are not fully satisfied with it 10:43 < LMJ> almost Graphic needs are fields by Open Source programs 10:44 < veki> what you plan as video compositing software 10:44 < LMJ> Jakarta already exist 10:44 < LMJ> that's why i started my own simple Font manager on Linux, but i don't have time to finish it, it needs 10h of Bash scripting to be done IMO 10:45 < veki> what you think aboyt Cinelerra 10:45 < LMJ> including tests 10:45 < LMJ> Cinelerra is a video editing program 10:45 < LMJ> works great 10:45 < veki> yes, is it stable? 10:46 < LMJ> dunno 10:46 < LMJ> i think so 10:47 < veki> I heard that it is not so, stable, it works, but also suddenly crash and disappear 10:47 < LMJ> humm, sad 10:47 < veki> yes 10:47 < LMJ> i could ask around 10:47 < veki> ok 10:49 < veki> I think that still some crucial professional level targeted applicatons still suck such as ardour and cinelerra 10:50 < veki> I am sorry if I am wrong, but is still like that 10:50 < LMJ> i'm doing some graphic stuff time to time, i didn't had any strong problems yet 10:51 < veki> ok, good 10:52 < LMJ> anyway, it was my project ;) 10:52 < LMJ> i'm not responsible of the softwares quality 10:53 < veki> yes, I understand that 10:53 < LMJ> just provide an end-user powerful OpenSource based fast PC hardware 10:54 < veki> do you plan to sell that hardware as manufatured units to anyone , or you plan to treat it as openhardware, or the both? 10:55 < LMJ> well, if i make a t2 target, it's for a dedicated hardware (such as AMD 64bits processors, Nvidia video cards) 10:56 < veki> ah, ok, I see 10:56 < veki> did Nvidia open its drivers 10:57 < LMJ> humm, i heard something about that some week ago, or a OS project... but i don't think atm 10:58 < veki> ok 10:59 < veki> so be careful, so that their lawyers will not chase you ;-) 10:59 < CIA-7> aldas * r17184 /trunk/package/emulators/xmame/ (xmame.conf xmame.desc): 11:00 < CIA-7> Leonel Ivan Saafigueroa 11:00 < CIA-7> * updated xmame (0.104 -> 0.105) 11:00 < CIA-7> * copyright update 11:03 < LMJ> yes 11:07 < veki> ;-) 11:09 < rxr> valentin: exact-image has a box-scaling implementation, now 11:09 < rxr> valentin: it is good for high-quality thumbnails, maybe it is of use for your gallery ,-)) 11:10 < rxr> (and in theory can scale differently in x and y direction 11:10 < rxr> but this is untested and a argument parser would be needed for that case anyway ,-) 11:15 < CIA-7> aldas * r17185 /trunk/package/network/liferea/liferea.desc: * updated liferea (1.0.9 -> 1.0.10) 11:40 < karasz> moin moin 11:41 < veki> moin 11:41 < karasz> hello veki 11:42 < veki> hi 11:57 < rxr> either I'm am totally confused now or gcc miscompiles a simple loop statement on ppc64 ... 11:57 * rxr puzzled 11:57 -!- morfoh [n=morfoh@p54BEE67F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 11:58 < morfoh> hi 12:02 < rxr> moin morfoh 12:03 < karasz> hello rxr 12:03 < karasz> kommrad ;) 12:03 < morfoh> moin rxr 12:03 < morfoh> hi tavarish 12:05 < veki> guys I have to go but I will be back tonight 12:05 < karasz> cu veki 12:06 < veki> cu 12:06 -!- veki [n=vedran@gw.gnucentar.org.yu] has left #t2 [] 13:22 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178181065.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 13:22 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.1.1 and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/ 13:22 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Mar 11 22:55:45 2006] 13:22 [Users #t2] 13:22 [@ChanServ] [ idealm] [ LMJ ] [ Pakmanorama] [ sepp ] [ _Ragnar_] 13:22 [ Baldzius] [ karasz] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly__] 13:22 [ CIA-7 ] [ laj ] [ morfoh] [ rxr_ ] [ valentin ] 13:22 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal] 13:22 -!- [freenode-info] if you need to send private messages, please register: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg 13:22 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004 13:22 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 11 secs 13:34 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178159192.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:03 -!- You're now known as rxr 14:13 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.201] has quit ["Changing server"] 14:16 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.201] has joined #T2 15:15 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 15:16 < misl> hi folks :) 15:21 < mnemoc> wb misl 15:21 < misl> hi mnemoc 15:22 < misl> mnemoc: Is noisy helpful ? ;-) 15:28 < mnemoc> of course, but the shutdown at 19:30 hurts :( 15:29 < misl> sorry :) 15:29 < misl> What are you using noisy for ? 15:45 < karasz> hello misl 15:45 < mnemoc> i did two builds, for a the vserver host and a minimal quite successfuly 15:45 < misl> hi karasz 15:45 < mnemoc> but the reference got frozen at stage 1 because of the huge lot of modules failing 15:45 < misl> :( 15:47 < mnemoc> i have the isos of minimal and sheba (vserver) here, but i don't have where to try :p 15:47 < mnemoc> i have been unable to build qemu 15:54 < misl> Nice you have some builds, but a pity you can't try them out :( 15:55 < mnemoc> :( 16:41 < CIA-7> rene * r17186 /trunk/target/share/livecd/init: 16:41 < CIA-7> * hotfixed the livecd/init to not use -f or -e on files potentially 16:41 < CIA-7> over 2GB, since our minimal flavours are not (yet) large file aware 16:45 < CIA-7> rene * r17187 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/publish.sh: 16:45 < CIA-7> * disabled all compression and duplicate checking for uncompressed archivista 16:45 < CIA-7> publishing 16:55 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.67.237.53] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:44 -!- morfoh [n=morfoh@p54BEE67F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:56 -!- Demian [n=demian@201.206.44.210] has joined #t2 18:56 < Demian> hi 18:56 < rxr> moin Demian 18:57 < Demian> do you know how to "dig" (select) for name servers which were delegated by a specific nameserver to a specific domain? 18:58 < Demian> i would like to ask a nameserver to list the nameservers that delegates mydomain.com subdomains. 18:59 < rxr> not off hand, would need to read the manual, too 19:18 < Demian> could someone dig me? dig @inactioncr.com spica.inactioncr.com ANY 20:06 < sepp> is there a good reason for the fox-1.6.x update? 20:07 < sepp> breaks rezound fxscintilla and fxruby, if there is a reason i would like a additional fox-14 pkg ... 20:15 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:16 -!- Baldzius_ [n=baldzius@85.206.102.184] has joined #t2 20:16 -!- Baldzius [n=baldzius@85.206.107.134] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:27 -!- sparc-kly_ [n=mubex@64.237.252.122] has joined #t2 21:46 -!- sparc-kly__ [n=mubex@64.237.240.216] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:00 -!- Demian [n=demian@201.206.44.210] has left #t2 [] 23:46 < karasz> cu guys --- Log closed Sun Apr 23 00:00:33 2006