T2 IRC Log: 2006-04-19

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--- Log opened Wed Apr 19 00:00:01 2006
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06:17 < valentin> jsaw: firefox has been build
06:18 < valentin> damn mplayer altivec detection is still broken
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07:08 < morfoh> hi
07:11 < mnemoc> hi mofroh
07:37 < CIA-7> chris * r17113 /trunk/package/e17/enterminus/init.patch: * fixed enterminus by removing the obsolete init.patch
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10:24 < CIA-7> amery * r17114 /trunk/package/security/vserver/vserver.desc: * updated vserver/linux26 patch (2.6.15-vs2.0.1.2 -> 2.6.16.8-vs2.0.2-rc17)
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10:32 < karasz> moin ....
10:32 < mnemoc> moin karasz :)
10:32 < CIA-7> jsaw * r17115 /trunk/misc/tools-source/fl_wrapper.c.sh:
10:32 < karasz> hello mnemoc :)
10:33 < CIA-7> * cleanup 17111: indentation and remove unlock before close
10:33 < CIA-7> (This and 17111 do not solve the missed files problem, but
10:33 < CIA-7> it does not hurt either)
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11:00 < morfoh> moin tavarish karasz :)
11:00 < morfoh> moin hiding Dr.J. :)
11:07 < karasz> moin kommrad morfoh ;)
12:06 < morfoh> finally I got my amplifier kind of repaired :)
12:25 < rxr_> re
12:25 -!- You're now known as rxr
12:26 < morfoh> hi rxr
12:40 < valentin> hi rxr
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12:43 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.1.1 and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/
12:43 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Mar 11 22:55:45 2006]
12:43 [Users #t2]
12:43 [@ChanServ] [ dsoul ] [ laj ] [ mtr ] [ sepp ]
12:43 [ amb ] [ idealm] [ LMJ ] [ Pakmanorama] [ sparc-kly__]
12:43 [ Baldzius] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ valentin ]
12:43 [ CIA-7 ] [ karasz] [ morfoh] [ rxr_ ] [ _Ragnar_ ]
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12:44 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004
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12:44 < rxr_> hi morfoh
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13:17 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.1.1 and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/
13:17 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Mar 11 22:55:45 2006]
13:17 [Users #t2]
13:17 [@ChanServ] [ dsoul ] [ laj ] [ mtr ] [ sparc-kly__]
13:17 [ amb ] [ idealm] [ LMJ ] [ Pakmanorama] [ valentin ]
13:17 [ Baldzius] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ _Ragnar_ ]
13:17 [ CIA-7 ] [ karasz] [ morfoh] [ sepp ]
13:17 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 19 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 18 normal]
13:17 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004
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13:44 < CIA-7> rene * r17117 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/install.sh:
13:44 < CIA-7> * fixed archivista/install.sh to emmit a fstab entry for the root file-
13:44 < CIA-7> system, as needed in combination with latest init scripts
14:04 < CIA-7> rene * r17118 /trunk/package/base/linux26/linux26.desc: * updated linux26 (2.6.16.8 -> 2.6.16.9)
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14:23 < CIA-7> rene * r17119 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/publish.sh:
14:23 < CIA-7> * added a sanity check to archivista/publish.sh to catch ISO 9660
14:23 < CIA-7> file size limitations
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14:32 < CIA-7> rene * r17120 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/sbin/init.d/system:
14:32 < CIA-7> * fixed archivista/init.d/system overlay to use -n for remounting the
14:32 < CIA-7> root filesystem and only do so for the livecd case
14:32 < Tauras> hello, I have a question: is it posible to skip one of build loops? like making docs?
14:32 < Tauras> and how is it possible to remove package?
14:41 < rxr> you can alter the package selection in the Config
14:41 < rxr> select expert and the package selection
14:41 < rxr> (when you build a target)
14:41 < rxr> what do you mean with removing "making docs"?
14:41 < rxr> for every package, generically ?=
14:42 < mnemoc> stage 7 i guess
14:53 < Tauras> just playing with custom package
14:53 < Tauras> i put it in stage 6
14:53 < Tauras> actually i need to modify filelist
14:54 < Tauras> 'making docs' is stage when you copy files into /usr/doc and /usr/man
14:55 < Tauras> flistdel wont work in paranoia mode
14:55 < Tauras> and flistrfilter has no effect
14:56 < Tauras> let say I have modified keymaps for rdesktop
14:56 < Tauras> package is very simple, one binary file and some data
14:57 < Tauras> now, I want to replace this data with mine
14:57 < Tauras> is it possible to customize make install itself?
14:57 < mnemoc> makeinstopt variable
14:58 < Tauras> and what do you suggest instead 'install' ? :)
14:58 < mnemoc> if you want to flistdel documentation do it from your target definition
14:58 < mnemoc> Tauras: i don't you, that depends on each package
14:58 < mnemoc> err
14:58 < mnemoc> s/your/know/
14:58 < mnemoc> err
14:58 < mnemoc> s/you/know/
15:00 < rxr> Tauras: I would inject this data into the rdesktop package itself in your own target
15:00 < rxr> target/tauras/pkg_rdesktop_post.conf or so and just add something like hook_add postmake 5 "install $base/target/$target/whatever some/other/location/of/rdesktop/" or so
15:01 < Tauras> like something you have make -> custmane
15:02 < Tauras> s/custmane/custmain/
15:02 < Tauras> yes, but I need to remove some files
15:02 < rxr> do it the same way
15:03 < rxr> "install x y ; rm z" inside the ook
15:03 < rxr> hook ...
15:03 < rxr> regarding custmain, it's use is discouraged for new, real packages - but if it helps you, go for it ...
15:03 < rxr> but you can replace custmain code with:
15:03 < rxr> makeopt=
15:03 < rxr> makeinstopt=
15:03 < Tauras> yes, but then flist will have the file.. and I'll see it during tar
15:03 < rxr> hook_add postmake 5 "your custmain" anyway
15:04 < rxr> that the file will be in some generated package is the concept of binary distribution
15:04 < rxr> if you have problem with the flist, e.g. you delete a file of another package, you should modify the other package to not generate this file in the first place
15:05 < rxr> either with a pkg_rdesktop_post.conf in your new package or your target
15:09 < LMJ> moin moin
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15:12 < mnemoc> moin LMJ
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15:13 < LMJ> hello mnemoc
15:13 < LMJ> how are you today ?
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15:19 < mnemoc> LMJ: good, and you?
15:19 < LMJ> fine thanks
15:19 < LMJ> back from work
15:19 < LMJ> with Debian crap ;)
15:19 < mnemoc> :)
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15:45 < Tauras> debian rulezz :)
15:45 < Tauras> see you guys
15:46 < Tauras> I'm off from any computers till may
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16:01 < CIA-7> rene * r17121 /trunk/package/filesystem/udftools/ (. gcc41.patch udftools.cache udftools.desc): * added udftools (1.0.0b3) - Filesystem utilities for UDF
16:15 < karasz> re
16:16 < karasz> :) Tauras did flee ;) ?
16:16 < karasz> 18:48 < Tauras> debian rulezz :)
16:16 < karasz> 18:48 < Tauras> debian rulezz :)
16:16 < karasz> sorry.
16:20 < mnemoc> :)
16:20 < karasz> cu later guys
16:23 < rxr> cu karasz
16:24 < mnemoc> cu karasz
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16:44 [ amb ] [ idealm] [ LMJ ] [ Pakmanorama] [ sparc-kly__]
16:44 [ Baldzius] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ valentin ]
16:44 [ CIA-7 ] [ karasz] [ morfoh] [ sepp ] [ _Ragnar_ ]
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17:15 < morfoh> bbl ... taking a look on the crappy router of a firend
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17:20 < _Ragnar_> wtf is wrong with the kernel dudes? O_O 4 releases in 3 days???
17:32 * mnemoc really wonders about including freebsd kernel
17:33 < mnemoc> on t2
17:33 < _Ragnar_> *g*
17:33 < _Ragnar_> good luck
17:36 < mnemoc> not this year maybe :)
17:36 < _Ragnar_> does orbit2 compile for you? o_o
17:37 < mnemoc> it did the last time i tried
17:39 < _Ragnar_> hmmm
17:39 < _Ragnar_> weird ... for me make loops endlessly
17:50 < Baldzius> _Ragnar_ : me too
17:51 < _Ragnar_> o_o ok
18:07 < sepp_> same thing with xchm, i emerged it some days ago but with build-target make tries to calc a inf. loop
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18:08 < rxr> in which part? maybe configure enldess re-generation ?
18:08 < sepp> yup
18:08 < rxr> maybe due libtool fixing or so?
18:08 < sepp> oehm, sorry do not have the log around
18:09 < _Ragnar_> possible related to the make update a while ago?
18:10 < Baldzius> due new make fails at least orbit2 & lprng
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18:51 < karasz> re
18:55 < karasz> re moin all
18:55 < karasz> guys anyone having an ideea about "Frame Check Sequence" errors? TCP/IP comunications...
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20:19 < mnemoc> rehi
20:20 < _Ragnar_> re
20:20 < mnemoc> hi _Ragnar_ :)
20:26 < sepp> do i need to do something special to ge udhcpc working on mnemosyne?
20:26 < _Ragnar_> oooh
20:27 < mnemoc> sepp: set 'udhcp' instead of 'dhcp' at conf/network
20:27 < sepp> `udhcpc -e eth0` says /usr/share/udhcpc/sample.leasefail no such file blah ...
20:27 < sepp> -i eth0
20:27 < mnemoc> auto eth0
20:28 < mnemoc> interface eth0
20:28 < mnemoc> udhcp
20:28 < _Ragnar_> Fetching external item into 'target/mnemosyne'
20:28 < _Ragnar_> svn: Unrecognized URL scheme 'https://svn.ixplanet.net/mnemosyne/mnemosyne/trunk'
20:28 < mnemoc> drop all
20:28 < _Ragnar_> how to fix?
20:28 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: rebuild neon and subversion :)
20:28 < _Ragnar_> I did O_O
20:29 < mnemoc> neon-config
20:29 < mnemoc> HEAD?
20:30 < _Ragnar_> yea
20:30 < _Ragnar_> o_o
20:30 < _Ragnar_> brb tho
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20:32 < morfoh> re hi :)
20:35 < sepp> which pkg has runsvctrl and svwaitdown?
20:35 < sepp> hi mnemoc :)
20:35 < sepp> oehm hi morfoh :)
20:35 < morfoh> sepp: hi :)
20:35 < morfoh> sepp: runit
20:37 < sepp> ohhh its in /command
20:37 < mnemoc> sepp: add /command to root's PATH
20:38 < sepp> sure ...
20:38 < sepp> never used runit before and /command seems strange
20:39 < mnemoc> welcome to djb world
20:39 < morfoh> :)
20:39 < morfoh> sepp: but it will not be strange after some days :)
20:40 < sepp> well, if it installs its executables into such strange locations it could at least add itself to $PATH
20:41 < mnemoc> sepp: it's on my TODO :(
20:41 < sepp> good ;)
20:43 < morfoh> sepp: one other minor issue
20:43 < morfoh> sepp: do you want to start network automatically ?
20:43 < mnemoc> the 'fix' is to add rocknet to stage 5 :(
20:44 < mnemoc> and teh hack, to make a symlink by hand
20:44 < morfoh> sepp: cd /etc/runit/1.d/
20:44 < morfoh> and make a symlink named 15network -> /sbin/init.d/network
20:48 < sepp> somehow udev/hal is also borked - tries to run /usr/libexec/hal.hotplu which is not there
20:51 < mnemoc> sepp: sadly yes,, t2 doesn't have hal support currently
20:51 < morfoh> sepp: wasn't that the case on sysv too ?
20:51 < morfoh> sepp: I guess it's not runit related
20:51 < sepp> morfoh: yes
20:51 < sepp> i think i saw that before
20:52 < morfoh> sepp: I saked here at #t2 some days ago if someone is using HAL/DBUS succesfully ... but no answer
20:52 < morfoh> asked :)
20:52 < valentin> re
20:52 < valentin> morfoh: i have hal/dbus running here
20:53 < morfoh> wb valentin :)
20:53 < valentin> but what is your specific problem ?
20:53 < morfoh> valentin: so what is the trick ?
20:53 < morfoh> valentin: what versions ?
20:53 < mnemoc> valentin: do you have /usr/libexec/hal.hotplug ?
20:53 < valentin> no
20:53 < morfoh> valentin: but good to hear that at least someone has it working :)
20:54 < morfoh> valentin: what did you changed ?
20:54 < mnemoc> and what do your *-hal.rules say?
20:54 < valentin> well, at least plugging usb hardware works here and inserting media, too
20:54 < valentin> i changed nothing but i am not at head but
20:54 < valentin> t2-src-2.2.0-alpha
20:55 < morfoh> valentin: mine -q dbus hal
20:55 < mnemoc> hal version? udev version?
20:55 < morfoh> oh :)
20:55 < valentin> dbus 0.61 2.2.0-alpha
20:55 < valentin> hal 0.5.7 2.2.0-alpha
20:55 < mnemoc> udev?
20:55 < valentin> udev 083 2.2.0-alpha
20:57 < valentin> Apr 18 15:30:54 localhost udevd-event[14180]: run_program: exec of program '/usr/libexec/hal.hotplug' failed
20:57 < valentin> i have those stuff in my messages, too
20:57 < valentin> but i never noticed any problems till now
20:58 < valentin> though i have not much testing hardware handy
20:58 < mnemoc> :(
20:59 < sepp> i have a usb stick attached to my laptop but no /dev/sda1 right now
20:59 < morfoh> sepp: wait
21:00 < morfoh> sepp: I've allready plugged in an USB stick
21:00 < valentin> sepp: my /dev/sda1 is created when attaching my mass storage compatible webcam
21:00 < morfoh> and I've sda1
21:01 < valentin> kde even ask, if i want to "open" that media
21:01 < sepp> hmmm
21:01 < valentin> and when i unplug the cam, the device is unmounted
21:01 < valentin> sepp: maybe you are missing some usbcore modules ?
21:01 < sepp> no
21:01 < valentin> do you get a message in dmesg ?
21:01 < valentin> like "registering new blabla device"
21:02 < morfoh> scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
21:02 < morfoh> usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage
21:02 < morfoh> USB Mass Storage support registered.
21:02 < morfoh> usb-storage: device found at 2
21:02 < morfoh> usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning Vendor: Samsung Model: Mighty Drive Rev: PMAP Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 00
21:02 < morfoh> SCSI device sda: 1006592 512-byte hdwr sectors (515 MB)
21:02 < valentin> s/webcam/digicam
21:02 < sepp> ohh - if i remove and attach it after boot it works - but if i have it in the usb slot at boot time i get nothing
21:02 < valentin> sepp: i never tried that one
21:03 < morfoh> sepp: that's strange ... on my box it's even there at boot time
21:03 < valentin> but i do not want to reboot my only dbus machine now ;)
21:03 < sepp> :)
21:04 < morfoh> sepp: I will test again ... will reboot :)
21:06 < sepp> well, at least xorg/e17 starts without any glitch
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21:09 < morfoh> re hi
21:09 < morfoh> sepp: sda1 is there
21:09 * morfoh likes runit :)
21:10 < morfoh> connecting to irc takes longer than booting my machine :)
21:10 < sepp> ok - so its some local problem with my laptop ...
21:13 < jsaw> sepp: try this with the 70-hal.rules: RUN+="socket:/org/freedesktop/hal/udev_event"
21:13 < jsaw> (I mean, remove everything, then put this into 70-hal.rules)
21:14 < morfoh> Dr J. :)
21:14 < morfoh> jsaw: evil you .... hiding such important informations :p
21:14 * morfoh hides
21:14 < morfoh> :)
21:14 < jsaw> just found out...
21:15 < jsaw> last 5 min
21:15 < morfoh> jsaw: lucky you :)
21:15 < morfoh> jsaw: but ... anyway ... was just a joke ... and thanks for the hint :)
21:15 < CIA-7> jsaw * r17122 /trunk/package/base/hal/ (70-hal.rules hal.conf): * remove rules file, hal installs its own
21:15 < morfoh> :D
21:16 < jsaw> :p
21:16 < jsaw> btw, udev is at 090
21:16 < morfoh> :p
21:16 < jsaw> (we are at 083)
21:16 < jsaw> or so
21:16 < mnemoc> jsaw: why haven't you commit yet?
21:16 < morfoh> jsaw: I guess our update "vandal" feared that update :)
21:16 < mnemoc> lazy dr. J
21:16 < jsaw> :p
21:16 < morfoh> mnemoc: go and read the log :)
21:17 < morfoh> jsaw: lazy mnemoc :)
21:17 < mnemoc> :(
21:18 < jsaw> oh my, a lot to change...
21:18 < morfoh> jsaw: oh! :/
21:19 < jsaw> cries for some init script rework...
21:19 < morfoh> jsaw: what is the goal of this project ... just to confuse people ? :/
21:19 < jsaw> udev?
21:19 < morfoh> yep
21:19 < sepp> cool - will try that hal change later, i do not have the psu around its the battery is empty right now :/
21:19 < jsaw> sepp: if you have 90-hal.rules, it will be enough to remove 70-hal.rules
21:20 < sepp> ok
21:21 < jsaw> u/dev yeah, u divided bye a device...? The name is program, division is one of the most complex operations...
21:21 < jsaw> s/bye/by/
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21:22 < morfoh> jsaw: puh ... I thought you want to leave yet :)
21:22 < sepp> so where is u/nop ? :)
21:25 < jsaw> seems like slackware has some nice udev rules
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21:35 < morfoh> 23:40:52.056 [I] blockdev.c:584: block_add: sysfs_path=/sys/block/sda/sda1 dev=/dev/sda1 is_part=1, parent=0x00000000
21:36 < morfoh> 23:40:52.057 [I] blockdev.c:494: get_luks_uuid: device_file=/dev/sda1
21:36 < morfoh> 23:40:52.057 [I] blockdev.c:620: Ignoring hotplug event - no parent
21:36 < morfoh> 23:40:52.057 [W] blockdev.c:984: Not adding device object
21:36 < morfoh> jsaw: do you have any idea ? ^
21:36 < morfoh> dbus and hal are running
21:36 < jsaw> o.O
21:37 < jsaw> morfoh: what program reports this?
21:37 < morfoh> jsaw: hal
21:37 < morfoh> jsaw: I removed 70-hal.rules
21:38 < mnemoc> hald, lier
21:38 < morfoh> mnemoc: pffff ... go to sleep
21:38 < morfoh> :p
21:38 < jsaw> looks like udev rules need to be updated
21:39 < mnemoc> jsaw: yes, please
21:40 < jsaw> *G* now the libtool guys commented out the part where the dependency_libs are cleaned up, "because it does not work correctly"
21:41 < jsaw> *GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH*
21:41 < mnemoc> :D
21:41 < jsaw> .oO(did I send a patch some month ago? yes I did. stupid idiots)
21:42 < mnemoc> :)
21:44 < jsaw> mnemoc: I'd love to change the udev rules if I just would know how to do it...
21:45 < jsaw> eh
21:45 < jsaw> morfoh... --^
21:45 < jsaw> I'm confused...
21:47 < mnemoc> jsaw: ask Dr. J, he knows everything
21:47 < morfoh> jsaw: seems ... you are trying to confuse me now :)
21:47 < jsaw> DrJ: what shall I do?
21:48 < mnemoc> jsaw: reeeeasearch
21:48 < morfoh> jsaw: Dr.J. pants down .. and let me see :)
21:48 < mnemoc> o_O
21:48 < jsaw> hehe
21:48 * mnemoc fears for his integrity in this room
21:49 < morfoh> the only one who has not to fear is mnemoc
21:49 < mnemoc> .oO
21:50 < jsaw> btw problems...
21:50 < jsaw> 14:50 < jsaw> did anybody notice that IA64 uses a different "lib" naming scheme (FHS)?
21:50 < jsaw> 14:50 < jsaw> http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#LIB64
21:50 < karasz> O_O
21:51 < morfoh> tavarish karasz save me please :)
21:51 < jsaw> and I added:
21:51 < jsaw> 14:55 < jsaw> me thinks we should do this:
21:51 < jsaw> 14:55 < jsaw> http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#FTN.AEN890
21:51 < morfoh> jsaw: ack
21:51 < morfoh> jsaw: but I was just looking over it quickly ... while being in cleaning mode
21:51 < mnemoc> jsaw: what'S the difference between http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#LIB64 and ours?
21:52 < jsaw> at least for the desktop market it would save us from the libtool-and-others brain damage
21:52 < jsaw> mnemoc: on 64bit we use lib64
21:52 < jsaw> mnemoc: however IA64 uses lib
21:52 < mnemoc> jsaw: i fear we have to learn to live with them
21:52 < karasz> morfoh: you need saving???
21:53 < mnemoc> jsaw: just ia64 is different? wtf
21:53 < jsaw> mnemoc: have you read http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#FTN.AEN890 ?
21:53 < morfoh> karasz: I guess I need a reset
21:53 < morfoh> :)
21:53 < karasz> kommrad, a reset is always welcomed ;)
21:53 < jsaw> mnemoc: yes, with ia64 they started to deprecate 32bit on 64bit machines...
21:53 < mnemoc> jsaw: i'm using a 9" monochrome display, it's not easy
21:53 < jsaw> lemma paste it
21:54 < jsaw> This is commonly used for 64-bit or 32-bit support on systems which support multiple binary formats, but require libraries of the same name. In this case, /lib32 and /lib64 might be the library directories, and /lib a symlink to one of them.
21:54 < jsaw> (this refers to the section "/lib")
21:55 < jsaw> (footnote [14])
21:55 < mnemoc> i asked for lib32 + symlink some months ago
21:55 < mnemoc> for consistence
21:57 < sepp> morfoh: btw you asked about mnemosyne pkgsel's - imho nice addon would be 2d-gimp-plugins (greycstoration, normalmap, refocusit, texturize(needs glew)) ...
21:57 < jsaw> mnemoc: hmmm
21:57 < morfoh> sepp: ack ... they are on my list :)
21:58 < morfoh> sepp: but let me do the module tomorrow :)
21:59 < sepp> np - you asked and i only respond what would make sense
21:59 < morfoh> sepp: I know :)
22:00 < jsaw> http://people.freedesktop.org/~david/BestCommercialEver.mpg
22:00 < jsaw> *rofl*
22:01 < karasz> cu guys, kommrad i guess i need a shutdown ;)
22:01 < sepp> jsaw: thats the weapon commercial?
22:01 < morfoh> karasz: hopefully you'llboot tomorrow :)
22:01 < sepp> or the no no no no thing
22:02 < sepp> or yes :)
22:02 < mnemoc> it kill my firefox/mplayer :(
22:02 < karasz> morfoh: I allways boot
22:02 < karasz> at least until there is a tomorrow
22:02 < karasz> and by my inside info there will be ;)
22:02 < karasz> bye
22:02 < morfoh> bye karasz :)
22:02 < morfoh> sleep well :)
22:04 < jsaw> have to work a bit still, cu later
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22:04 < morfoh> cu jsaw :)
22:07 < morfoh> jsaw: but don't forget your asboestos suite while working in the lab :p
22:10 < sepp> mixed up the name with http://f1.putfile.com/videos/c2-30616143666.wmv :)
22:14 < morfoh> poor guy :)
22:15 < morfoh> yes
22:17 < _Ragnar_> mnemoc: I did ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg -deps=none apache apr apr-util expat libxml neon numpy openssl zlib subversion ... what's missing? O_O
22:19 < mnemoc> you are insane
22:20 < mnemoc> $ neon-config | tail -n 2 Known features: dav [yes], ssl [yes], zlib [yes], ipv6 [yes], lfs [yes]
22:20 < mnemoc> does your neon support ssl and dav?
22:20 < mnemoc> if yes, just rebuild subversion with HEAD
22:21 < _Ragnar_> Known features: dav [yes], ssl [yes], zlib [yes], ipv6 [yes], lfs [yes]
22:21 < mnemoc> good
22:21 < mnemoc> so you don't need to rebuild neon :)
22:21 < _Ragnar_> why am I insane?
22:21 < _Ragnar_> of course I did that already :p
22:21 < mnemoc> that kind of massive emerge
22:22 < mnemoc> :)
22:22 < _Ragnar_> duh
22:22 < _Ragnar_> stress test! :)
22:22 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: what feature is numpy adding to svn ? :)
22:22 < mnemoc> :)
22:22 < mnemoc> :D
22:22 < mnemoc> goffice was also missing
22:22 < morfoh> :D
22:23 < _Ragnar_> don't ask me why it's in the dependency graph :P
22:23 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: don't trust the .cache :)
22:23 < mnemoc> the dependency system doesn't understand python
22:23 < _Ragnar_> :P
22:23 < _Ragnar_> obviously :)
22:27 < _Ragnar_> wtf?
22:27 < _Ragnar_> svn: Commit failed (details follow):
22:27 < _Ragnar_> svn: MKACTIVITY of /t2/!svn/act/d79eeef2-cf11-0410-82e9-a157cbe617a3: 403 Forbidden (http://svn.exactcode.de)
22:28 < sepp> http is disabled now
22:29 < sepp> relocate it to https://...
22:29 < _Ragnar_> duh
22:30 < _Ragnar_> https does not work :P
22:32 < sepp> if you have neon and a modern svn https://svn.exactcode.de/t2/trunk should work
22:32 < _Ragnar_> rebuilding svn again :P
22:32 < _Ragnar_> how do I migrate?
22:35 < sepp> svn switch --relocate http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/trunk https://svn.exactcode.de/t2/trunk
22:35 < sepp> or so
22:36 < _Ragnar_> ok thx
22:42 < mnemoc> it wont work
22:42 < mnemoc> eeer
22:42 < _Ragnar_> oh?
22:42 < mnemoc> yes, sorry
22:42 < mnemoc> i was thinking in mnemosyne :)
22:43 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: yes, it will work after your svn support https :)
22:45 < _Ragnar_> svn: Unrecognized URL scheme 'https://svn.ixplanet.net/mnemosyne/mnemosyne/trunk'
22:45 < _Ragnar_> still
22:45 < _Ragnar_> >.<
22:46 < sepp> started a new build - when its ready there will be 23 new kernel releases
22:47 < morfoh> gn8
22:49 < sepp> sleep well morfoh
22:51 < _Ragnar_> *lol*
22:57 * _Ragnar_ hates on svn
22:59 < _Ragnar_> duh
22:59 < _Ragnar_> write(2, "Error validating server certificate for \'https://svn.ixplanet.net:443\':\n - The certificate is not issued by a trusted authority. Use the\n fingerprint to validate the certificate manually!\n - The cer"..., 533Error validating server certificate for 'https://svn.ixplanet.net:443':
23:00 < _Ragnar_> may that be the reason?
23:04 < _Ragnar_> how do I fix that? (or make svn at least display the error)
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23:13 < CIA-7> aldas * r17123 /trunk/package/cad/brlcad/brlcad.desc: * updated brlcad (7.6.6 -> 7.8.0)
23:16 < CIA-7> aldas * r17124 /trunk/package/network/nagios-plugins/nagios-plugins.desc: * updated nagios-plugins (1.4.2 -> 1.4.3)
23:17 * _Ragnar_ pokes mnemoc
23:25 < Baldzius> _Ragnar_ wants to play poker with mnemoc? :)
23:25 < _Ragnar_> *lol*
23:25 * Baldzius hides :)
23:26 < Baldzius> ragnar don't poke me else i loose everything including my pants :)
23:26 < _Ragnar_> *lol*
23:31 < Baldzius> _Ragnar_ : in you way i'll just svn up new tree from scratch or it doesn't help either?
23:31 < Baldzius> your*
23:32 < Baldzius> and oh forgot to mention - Baldzius is not good in giving advises :)
23:32 * Baldzius pokes himself
23:39 < _Ragnar_> *giggles*
23:40 < Baldzius> :)
23:48 < CIA-7> aldas * r17125 /trunk/package/audio/alsa-driver/alsa-driver.desc: * updated alsa-driver (1.0.11rc5 -> 1.0.11)
23:48 < CIA-7> aldas * r17126 /trunk/package/audio/alsa-firmware/alsa-firmware.desc: * updated alsa-firmware (1.0.11rc3 -> 1.0.11)
23:48 < CIA-7> aldas * r17127 /trunk/package/audio/alsa-lib/alsa-lib.desc: * updated alsa-lib (1.0.11rc5 -> 1.0.11)
23:48 < _Ragnar_> btw new checkout doesn't work eiter
23:48 < _Ragnar_> either*
23:49 < CIA-7> aldas * r17128 /trunk/package/audio/alsa-oss/alsa-oss.desc: * updated alsa-oss (1.0.11rc3 -> 1.0.11)
23:49 < CIA-7> aldas * r17129 /trunk/package/audio/alsa-plugins/alsa-plugins.desc: * updated alsa-plugins (1.0.11rc5 -> 1.0.11)
23:49 < CIA-7> aldas * r17130 /trunk/package/audio/alsa-tools/alsa-tools.desc: * updated alsa-tools (1.0.11rc5 -> 1.0.11)
23:49 < CIA-7> aldas * r17131 /trunk/package/audio/alsa-utils/alsa-utils.desc: * updated alsa-utils (1.0.11rc5 -> 1.0.11)
23:51 < Baldzius> _Ragnar_ :(
23:52 < Baldzius> once i had strange problem new checkout helped
23:52 < Baldzius> but not like yours
23:55 < _Ragnar_> interesting
23:55 < _Ragnar_> if I do a strace -f -s 200 svn co ... it asks me for the cert and works
23:55 < _Ragnar_> if I leave off the strace it just fails
23:57 < Baldzius> yep, it's weird
23:57 < Baldzius> blame billy :)
23:57 < _Ragnar_> billy?
23:58 < Baldzius> bill gates :)
23:58 < Baldzius> ok ok blame svn :)
23:59 * _Ragnar_ blames svn
23:59 < Baldzius> but your problem is really interesting ...
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