--- Log opened Sat Mar 25 00:00:26 2006 00:07 < morfoh> owl: hi hustinette :p 00:07 < morfoh> :) 00:07 < owl> morfoh: *kick* 00:08 < morfoh> owl: *kick* *back* 00:08 < morfoh> :) 00:08 < owl> pah 00:08 < morfoh> owl: *kick* 00:08 < owl> *sigh* 00:08 < morfoh> :) 00:09 < owl> http://gallery.karnaya.de/v/user-alben/owl/art/nostalgie/ 00:09 < owl> naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarg! 00:10 < morfoh> owl: ? 00:10 < owl> didn't want to post it here... but my mouse and me had different thinkings 00:11 < owl> thinkiingsß?? aeh. thughs even 00:11 < morfoh> thugs ? :) 00:11 < owl> drugs 00:11 < owl> naeh. thourghts 00:11 < owl> aaaaaaaaaaaaaargh. you know what ie meant 00:11 < morfoh> no :) 00:12 < owl> *kci* 00:12 * morfoh hides 00:12 < owl> O_O 00:12 < owl> i mentioned that that iam tnno ablet ot hamtye? 00:12 < morfoh> -_ø 00:12 < owl> O_O 00:12 * owl gitves upt tiypn 00:12 < owl> ?????? wtf??? 00:12 < owl> do i have chines kbdmapping? 00:13 < owl> *sigh* 00:13 < morfoh> yo're reiht :) 00:13 < owl> *g* 00:13 < morfoh> :D 00:13 < owl> .oO( weird... ) 00:14 < owl> ok... tryint go hit the reight keyws now: my mouse and me had different thoughts. 00:14 < morfoh> we should "archive" this part of the log for later "observation" :) 00:15 < owl> hehehehe, why? 00:15 < morfoh> and publishing it at a special place :) 00:15 < owl> heh... i am still istting in my office... 00:15 < owl> special place like? 00:15 < morfoh> Monumente der Zeiten :) 00:15 < owl> :p 00:15 < owl> *kick* 00:15 < morfoh> :) 00:16 < owl> ansywas - how doy out lkike them? 00:16 < morfoh> owl: a bit sad of course 00:16 < owl> .oO( narf. if i read my thiypis i think an drunk, but i didn't consume drugs or alk or so) 00:18 < owl> sad and expect htas? 00:19 < morfoh> owl: ? 00:19 < owl> kill me. please. thx. :) 00:28 -!- keinek [n=keinek@200-70-145-162.mrse.com.ar] has joined #t2 00:28 -!- keinek [n=keinek@200-70-145-162.mrse.com.ar] has quit [Client Quit] 00:29 -!- keinek [n=keinek@200-70-145-162.mrse.com.ar] has joined #t2 00:29 < keinek> hi 00:41 -!- wildfire [n=wildfire@203.7.227.147] has joined #t2 00:41 -!- wildfire [n=wildfire@203.7.227.147] has left #t2 ["Leaving"] 00:50 < owl> hi hkeineek 00:50 < owl> aeh. keinek 00:51 < keinek> hi owl 01:47 < sparc-kly> hi all 01:49 -!- jsaw [n=jgs@p54AD2F64.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 01:51 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.253.185] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:58 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.253.185] has joined #t2 03:13 -!- morfoh [n=morfoh@p54BEE655.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:45 -!- sparc-kly_ [n=mubex@64.237.242.38] has joined #t2 03:55 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.253.185] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:56 -!- idealm [n=ideal@218.82.61.97] has joined #t2 04:23 -!- madtux [i=miguel@pf0.hostarica.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 05:09 -!- keinek [n=keinek@200-70-145-162.mrse.com.ar] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:26 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@pD9E13248.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 05:39 -!- mtr [n=Michael@pD9E13E80.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:30 -!- sparc-kly_ [n=mubex@64.237.242.38] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:31 -!- sparc-kly_ [n=mubex@64.237.242.38] has joined #t2 07:20 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 07:21 < misl> morning all 07:47 < CIA-11> rene * r16278 /trunk/package/firmware/ipw2200-fw/ (ipw2200-fw.conf ipw2200-fw.desc): * updated ipw2200-fw (2.4 -> 3.0) 07:54 < rxr> moin 07:54 < rxr> hi misl 07:54 < rxr> misl: I fixed the generic cross buid regression that let x86 fail on your box 07:54 < rxr> and additionally hacked 1-perl to cross build on soe 64bit platforms, like yours and mine ppc64 08:08 < misl> rxr: :-) great 08:08 < misl> I will immediately start a new build 08:11 < CIA-11> rene * r16279 /trunk/package/develop/oprofile/gcc-41-anon.patch: * fixed oprofile for gcc-41 08:15 < CIA-11> rene * r16280 /trunk/package/develop/redet/ (. redet.cache redet.conf redet.desc): 08:15 < CIA-11> * added redet (8.9) - Regular expression development, just copies files 08:15 < CIA-11> and thus insalls fine, but needs a Iwidget enabled tcl/tk to run 08:18 < rxr> misl: the only thing failing now is linux2*, 24 because it is pure crap and to be removed and 26 because of sub-module builds ... .-(( 08:21 < misl> :( 08:22 < misl> rxr: gcc failed on x86 build, I will try a full rebuild. 08:23 < rxr> misl: hm 08:23 < rxr> look in my /mnt/space/rene it built there 08:23 < rxr> though it is not HEAD anymore, mnemoc did a lot of noise on trunk the last days :-( 08:24 < misl> I will do a full rebuild and see what happens 08:24 < misl> perl went fine on x86-64 :) 08:25 < rxr> ,-) 08:35 < Stelz> hello, my friends :) 08:35 -!- jsaw [n=jgs@p54AD3B63.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 08:35 < misl> hi stelz, jsaw 08:36 < Stelz> re, misl :> 08:37 < rxr> hm 08:37 < rxr> hi stelz 08:37 < rxr> 16-mm kerel suck - a lot more time spend lingering in the kernel :-( 08:37 < Stelz> hey, rxr :) 08:38 < rxr> just oproiled it 08:38 < rxr> over 30% B... 08:40 < rxr> samples % symbol name 08:40 < rxr> 25909 9.6615 clear_page 08:40 < rxr> 24766 9.2353 copy_page 08:40 < rxr> 15217 5.6744 page_fault 08:40 < rxr> 13640 5.0864 __strnlen_user 08:40 < rxr> 9542 3.5582 __handle_mm_fault 08:40 < rxr> 8859 3.3035 unmap_vmas 08:40 < rxr> samples| %| 08:40 < rxr> ------------------ 08:40 < rxr> 268169 37.4915 /boot/vmlinux_2.6.16-mm1-dist 08:49 * misl out to do some shopping, bbl 08:49 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.69.3 [Firefox 1.5.0.1/2006011112]"] 08:53 < CIA-11> rene * r16281 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: 08:53 < CIA-11> * further polished the desktop target for the upcomming 2.2 release: 08:53 < CIA-11> removed old gnome 1.x compatibility packages such as gtk+12 and 08:53 < CIA-11> glib12 and thus imlib, libglade10, orbit10, ardour, librdf, xmms 08:53 < CIA-11> and xmms-jack, further removed ddd, gst-plugins, xinetd, most 08:53 < CIA-11> syslog-ng, gtoaster, lazyfs, added liboil, gst-plugins-base, 08:53 < CIA-11> oprofile, audacious 08:59 < rxr> jsaw: -# gcc itself doesn't like -fstack-protector 08:59 < rxr> -var_remove GCC_WRAPPER_INSERT ' ' "-fstack-protector" 08:59 < rxr> jsaw: we can just flag gcc NO-SSP, no ? 09:14 < Baldzius> good morning 09:22 < owl> moin 09:23 < Stelz> moin, owl, Baldzius 09:24 < Baldzius> hi owl Stelz 09:26 < owl> hi Stelz , Baldzius 09:32 < rxr> moin Baldzius 09:32 < rxr> hi owl 09:32 < Baldzius> hi rxr 09:34 < owl> hi rxr 09:35 < Stelz> 12:25 | nici> install firefox seems to crash my system, any ideas? 09:35 < Stelz> lol 09:36 < owl> O_O which OS? what did she/he do? installing firefox instead of bash and symlinking /bin/sh to the overwritten bash which is an firefox-bin? 09:36 < Stelz> :)) 09:37 < Stelz> owl: some speech on #NetBSD :) 09:37 < owl> oh, the devil consumed drugs ^^ 09:37 < Stelz> :> 09:37 < owl> ok, now the owlisch devil will consume tea... otherwise some heads will be ripped off 09:43 < owl> back with tea... 09:46 < CIA-11> rene * r16282 /trunk/package/e16/enlightenment16/e16-conf.in: 09:46 < CIA-11> * removed strict glib12 / gtk+12 check from e16-conf.in, 09:46 < CIA-11> enlightenment16 itself and some e16 packages build without it, so 09:46 < CIA-11> leave it for the packages to abort compilation and thus allow e16 09:46 < CIA-11> to be included in legacy-less targets 10:05 < CIA-11> rene * r16283 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: 10:05 < CIA-11> * only build the windowmanager of enlightenment16 and selected 10:05 < CIA-11> filesystem packages in the desktop target 10:13 < CIA-11> rene * r16284 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: 10:13 < CIA-11> * explicitly list the textproc packages we want in desktop and thus 10:13 < CIA-11> remove 11 more unwanted packages from the desktop target 10:21 -!- jsaw [n=jgs@p54AD3B63.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 10:48 < CIA-11> rene * r16285 /trunk/package/base/linux24/linux24.conf: 10:48 < CIA-11> * tweaked the linux package to install vmlinux in any case (for 10:48 < CIA-11> debugging, e.g. oprofile) 11:11 -!- morfoh [n=morfoh@p54BEEC0B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 11:11 < morfoh> moin 11:12 < Stelz> ;> 11:12 < Stelz> moin, morfoh 11:12 < morfoh> moin Stelz :) 11:12 < Stelz> velvet morning © kayu vs albert 11:12 < Stelz> :) 11:25 < CIA-11> chris * r16286 /trunk/package/security/libpreludedb/libpreludedb.desc: * updated libpreludedb (0.9.6 -> 0.9.7) 11:47 < mnemoc> rehi 11:47 < morfoh> wb mnemoc :) 11:47 < mnemoc> thx morfoh :) 11:51 < Stelz> ЖЮ 11:51 < Stelz> :> 11:51 < Stelz> hi, mnemoc, how r u? 12:09 < owl> hi mnemoc , morfoh 12:10 < morfoh> hi owl 12:14 < mnemoc> Stelz: with headache, and you? 12:14 < mnemoc> hi owlita 12:14 < Stelz> :( 12:14 < Stelz> me is ok.. 12:15 * owl offering mnemoc an 'aspirin forte' 12:19 < mnemoc> thanks owlita :) 12:19 < owl> de nada ;) 12:20 * Stelz dunno this lang.. :< 12:20 < owl> Stelz: spanish 12:20 < mnemoc> that'S spanish russian boy 12:20 < Stelz> :> 12:21 < Stelz> Gatecrasher Digital - Disc 2 (Meltdown) 12:21 < Stelz> :> 12:21 < Stelz> pwn4g3 12:22 < owl> .oO( all those russian words i once knew are flown away... dammit ) 12:22 < owl> pw4g3? - hrmpf. i guess it's not good to type your pwd into irssi... which ip am i allowed to connect to, now? ;) 12:23 < mnemoc> :D 12:23 < mnemoc> and worse on the logged channel 12:23 < owl> ack :) 12:25 < Stelz> owl: pwn4g3 = ownage :> 12:26 < owl> O_O 12:26 < Stelz> Gatecrasher Digital - Disc 2 (Meltdown) < ownz :> 12:26 < owl> you're speaking strange sometimes, my russian friend :D 12:27 < Stelz> yup.. i know :> 12:27 < owl> well ;) what music is that? 12:27 * Stelz Trance X Station Stats @ [ http://vex.oze.net:8000/ ] 12:27 * Stelz Trance X Station @ [ http://vex.oze.net:8000/listen.ogg ] 12:27 < Stelz> :> 12:27 < mnemoc> not music, noise 12:27 < Stelz> mnemoc: u dunno 12:27 < Stelz> as i said before 12:28 < owl> O_o trance... long time ago, when i was much younger than now, i also listened to that kind of - aeh - music(???) - whatever. long time ago... ^^ *old wise wife speaking* 12:29 < mnemoc> wife? hanve't you killed him yet? 12:30 < owl> wife. women. whatever ^^ 12:30 < owl> aeh. woman. ^ 12:30 < mnemoc> :) 12:30 < owl> <- not multiple 12:30 < mnemoc> :) 12:30 < Stelz> :>> 12:31 < owl> guys, it's not nice to laugh about an old old owl. 12:31 < mnemoc> you old? 12:31 < mnemoc> pff 12:31 < Stelz> ":>>" - it's not a laugh 12:31 < owl> what then? 12:31 < Stelz> laugh is ":>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>" 12:31 < Stelz> etc 12:31 < owl> mnemoc: yes. i am old. and looking like a zombie 12:32 < mnemoc> owl: you kill him and problem solved 12:32 < owl> mnemoc: why? 12:32 < Stelz> y ? 12:33 < mnemoc> owl: old style, eating the enemy to gain it's energy 12:33 < owl> *gggg* 12:33 < owl> my enemy is inside my head.. 12:33 < owl> *eating owl-brain* 12:33 < mnemoc> you can'T eat that one 12:34 < owl> dammit. why not? :( 12:34 * mnemoc trying to iamgine the scene 12:35 < Stelz> lolz 12:35 < owl> :p 12:35 < owl> anyway. off, buying new hw. bybe, bye 12:36 * mnemoc should have bought food 12:36 < owl> hrmpf. 12:36 < Stelz> owl: r u k? 12:37 < mnemoc> .oO( this russina trance-boy speaks weird )o 12:37 < Stelz> mnemoc: relax ;) 12:37 < mnemoc> :) 12:39 < CIA-11> rene * r16287 /trunk/package/base/sysvinit/system.init: 12:39 < CIA-11> * fixed sysvinit/system to not unmount / before others resulting in 12:39 < CIA-11> ugly error messages on the screen, streamlined and cleaned the code 12:39 < CIA-11> on the way, added removal of lingering mtab~* lockfiles on boot 12:39 < CIA-11> and removed some superfluous sleeps on the way 12:40 < mnemoc> morfoh: after i re-run mkinitrd the hotplug++ became static and the box booted 12:42 < mnemoc> and somehting done by hotplug is killing my qemu video output :( 12:45 < mnemoc> cirrusfb 12:45 < mnemoc> added to PCI_SKIP_MODULES, and trying again 12:46 < rxr> when you are on trunk I hope you know that hotplug++ does not yet support skip lists ... 12:46 < mnemoc> ehm 12:46 < mnemoc> i didn't know 12:47 < mnemoc> that's not good 12:48 < mnemoc> so, what's the officiaal suggestion? 12:48 * mnemoc wonders if cirrusfb did also blank keinek's display yesterday 12:49 < rxr> aside fixing cirrusfb? rm the module from the disc or implement skip list to hotplug++ .... 12:56 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 12:56 < misl> hi folks :) 12:56 < Stelz> hello, misl ;> 12:56 < misl> hi Stelz 12:57 < rxr> wb. misl 12:58 < misl> hi rxr 12:58 < misl> rxr: both minimal x86 and x86-64 failed :( 12:58 < rxr> misl: hm - what error ? 12:59 < CIA-11> rene * r16288 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: * added fget to desktop (net install) 12:59 < mnemoc> o_O 12:59 < misl> minimal x86 in stage 1 glibc 12:59 < misl> minimal x86-64 in stage 0 file 12:59 < misl> sorry stage 1 file 12:59 < rxr> misl: hm - built some days ago :-( 12:59 < rxr> what are the errors ? 13:01 < misl> glibc: 13:01 < misl> make[2]: *** No rule to make target `/mnt/space/t2/trunk/src.glibc.minimal-x86.2 13:01 < misl> 0060325.100127.15002.noisy/glibc-20051128/objdir/nptl/pthread_spin_trylock.o', n 13:01 < misl> eeded by `lib-noranlib'. Stop. 13:01 < misl> make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... 13:03 < misl> file: 13:03 < misl> file -C -m magic 13:03 < misl> magic, 3745: Warning type `medate x Previous dump %s,' invalid 13:03 < misl> magic, 3746: Warning type `medate x This dump %s,' invalid 13:03 < misl> file: could not find any magic files! 13:03 < misl> make[2]: *** [magic.mgc] Error 255 13:04 < rxr> never seen that ... 13:04 < rxr> most probably menmocs massive and untested stylistic changes the last two days :-( 13:05 < rxr> my noisy checkout appears to be on Revision: 16050 13:05 < rxr> maybe you might try svn up -r 16050 and see if it all builds then 13:05 < misl> rxr: Redoing the x86-64 build. So it will rebuild from scratch. 13:06 < misl> I will try that revision later :) 13:06 < rxr> misl ok 13:08 * rxr back to 2.6.15-mm4 13:08 < rxr> all the newer kernel have strange lagging performance charakteristic - at least with reiser4 13:09 < Baldzius> i noticed that in 2.6.15.x when switched form *14 13:11 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178147158.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 13:11 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.1.1 and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/ 13:11 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Mar 11 22:55:45 2006] 13:11 [Users #t2] 13:11 [@ChanServ] [ idealm] [ misl ] [ mtr_] [ rxr_ ] [ Stelz ] 13:11 [ Baldzius] [ karasz] [ mnemoc] [ owl ] [ sepp ] [ valentin] 13:11 [ CIA-11 ] [ LMJ ] [ morfoh] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly_] [ _Ragnar_] 13:11 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 18 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal] 13:11 -!- [freenode-info] if you're at a conference and other people are having trouble connecting, please mention it to staff: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp 13:11 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004 13:11 < Stelz> flying rxr 13:12 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 30 secs 13:12 < mnemoc> f*, modprobe initio (for the external writer) hungs the machine :'( 13:12 < rxr_> ouhm, maybe my kernel patch is not that good ? 13:12 < mnemoc> no no, the box is a 2.1 13:12 < rxr_> Baldzius: are you on reiser4 as well or overall more lagging kernel ? 13:12 < mnemoc> the iso i want to burn is 2.2 with your patch 13:13 < Baldzius> rxr_: yes i am on reiser4 and each time i upgrade kernel it's lagging more and more, my 2 cents 13:13 < Baldzius> just 13:14 < rxr_> Baldzius: ic 13:14 < Baldzius> i really enjoyed reiser4 with 2.6.14 13:14 < rxr_> I stay on that 2.6.15-mm4 for now 13:14 < rxr_> though it has a ioctl32 compat bug :-( 13:14 * rxr_ should backport that ,-)) 13:15 < rxr_> yes a pitty that reiser4 is not in official an more care is taken not to break random stuff just due kernel source prettification without a real benefit ... 13:15 < mnemoc> rxr_: any other machine around here has cdr? 13:15 < rxr_> nope 13:15 < mnemoc> :( 13:15 < rxr_> but it one worked on your box, maybe reboot and retry ? 13:15 < mnemoc> it worked on the 2.2 which was previously installed here 13:16 < mnemoc> but yes, i have rebooted and re-tried 6 times by now 13:16 < rxr_> hm 13:16 * mnemoc really wanted to reinstall the machine today 13:16 < rxr_> install manually ... 13:17 < mnemoc> into the same partitions... uhm ... evil 13:17 < mnemoc> but, maybe i can use the old CD to boot.... 13:17 < rxr_> open some other vg ? 13:18 < mnemoc> uhm, that's a good alternative 13:18 < mnemoc> i'll resize home to free some space 13:19 < mnemoc> i need to logoff for that, bbl 13:30 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178185047.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:30 < CIA-11> aldas * r16289 /trunk/package/develop/gambas/gambas.desc: * updated gambas (1.0.14 -> 1.0.15) 13:55 < rxr_> hm 13:55 < rxr_> 232843 45.9513 no-vmlinux 13:55 < rxr_> 187066 36.9173 cc1 13:55 < rxr_> 23036 4.5461 ld 13:55 < rxr_> 19974 3.9418 bash 13:55 < rxr_> 13572 2.6784 gawk 13:55 < rxr_> 5578 1.1008 sort 13:55 < rxr_> 3863 0.7624 bzip2 13:55 < rxr_> 3541 0.6988 as 13:55 < rxr_> 3178 0.6272 ccache 13:55 < rxr_> 2629 0.5188 sed 13:55 < rxr_> T2 building xterm 13:56 < rxr_> I think there is something where wrong with such a high in-kernel cycle consumption 14:02 < rxr_> too bad I have no vmlinxu for this kernel to take a look where 45% are cooked away 14:02 -!- You're now known as rxr 14:53 < CIA-11> aldas * r16290 /trunk/package/graphic/netpbm/ (4 files): 14:53 < CIA-11> * updated netpbm (10.31 -> 10.32) 14:53 < CIA-11> * copyright update 14:53 < CIA-11> rene * r16291 /trunk/package/graphic/imagemagick/imagemagick.desc: * updated imagemagick (6.2.5-5 -> 6.2.6-5) 14:56 < CIA-11> rene * r16292 /trunk/package/develop/redet/redet.desc: * updated redet (8.9 -> 8.10) 14:59 -!- idealm [n=ideal@218.82.61.97] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:02 < rxr> hm 15:02 < rxr> just loading and saving a bw tiff files is twice as fast in exact-iamge compared to image-magick 15:06 < rxr> heh 15:06 < rxr> and imagemagick doesnot load my 16 bit per color channel tiff ... 15:07 * rxr used econvert to resave it without tags imagemagick does not know about to process it with convert ... 15:13 < misl> o_O uhh? 15:16 < misl> x86_64-t2-linux-gnu-gcc -shared -Wl,-soname -Wl,libbz2.so.1.0 -o libbz2.so.1.0.3 blocksort.o huffman.o crctable.o randtable.o compress.o decompress.o bzlib.o /mnt/space/t2/trunk/build/minimal-x86-64-2.2.0-alpha-x86-64-generic/TOOLCHAIN/tools.cross/crosscc/../lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/4.1.0/../../../../x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/bin/ld: blocksort.o: relocation R_X86_64_32 against `a local... 15:16 < misl> rxr: bzip2 fails in stage 1 (x86-64) 15:16 < misl> log says: 15:16 < misl> ...symbol' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC 15:16 < misl> blocksort.o: could not read symbols: Bad value 15:16 < misl> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 15:16 < misl> make: *** [all] Error 1 15:16 < misl> but bzip2 already has FPIC_QUIRK 15:24 -!- jsaw [n=jgs@p54AD0042.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 15:24 < jsaw> re 15:24 < rxr> misl: something in the last days got majorly screwed up 15:25 < rxr> maybe in the atstage or what the helper was named changes or something in that earea ... 15:25 < rxr> misl: I would need to debug / review myself where it comes from 15:25 < jsaw> rxr: I actually thought, NO-SSP would add -fno-stack-protector option... 15:25 < rxr> jsaw: AFAIR it controls injection of -fstrack-protector 15:25 < jsaw> yep, I saw that later ... 15:26 < jsaw> I'll add NO-SSP now, and remove the according lines in .conf 15:27 < misl> rxr: ack, but the strange thing is when debugging both make and make -f Makefile-libbz2.so seems to work without problems 15:27 < jsaw> rxr: btw, current status of SSP build: 15:27 < jsaw> 934 builds total, 579 completed fine, 4 with errors. 15:27 < jsaw> [5] x86/syslinux [5] fonts/cheapskatefonts 15:27 < jsaw> [5] develop/valgrind [5] textproc/tex4ht 15:28 < rxr> jsaw: good ,-) 15:28 < rxr> I hoep someone tracks those recently causes major cross headache ... 15:28 < jsaw> (P4 btw.) 15:29 < rxr> jsaw: you do not have a amd64 anymore? or in the lab ? 15:30 < jsaw> in the lab 15:31 < jsaw> (it's time to remove the outdated rock installation, but I have to test the fragile vmware first...) 15:33 < jsaw> rxr: I don't want to do the whole linux24 cleanup right now, but, I disable linux24 now, ok? 15:33 < rxr> ah yep 15:33 < rxr> http://www.billposer.org/Software/redet.html 15:33 < rxr> ^- includes minised reference links now ,-)) 15:35 < mnemoc> rxr: the initio module is triggerd by hotplug++ at initrd, but also hangs 15:35 * mnemoc running his first 2.2-based system, but without X yet 15:36 < CIA-11> jsaw * r16293 /trunk/package/base/linux24/linux24.desc: * disable linux24 by default 15:36 < mnemoc> what was the reason to change base uid from 500 to 1000? 15:43 < mnemoc> rxr: i had to run mkfontdir by hand, and now X is running 15:46 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.250.143] has joined #t2 15:54 < mnemoc> .oO( this 2.2 is pretty anoying )o 15:56 < jsaw> mnemoc: make a list... 15:57 < mnemoc> anyone knows why thunderbird is segfaulting? 15:57 * Stelz is on sylpheed 15:58 < jsaw> mnemoc: not here 15:59 < mnemoc> firefox is also segfaulting 15:59 < mnemoc> jsaw: frsh system? 15:59 < jsaw> pretty much 16:00 < jsaw> but no gcc 4.1 yet 16:01 < jsaw> mnemoc: does seamonkey work? 16:04 -!- sparc-kly_ [n=mubex@64.237.242.38] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:04 < mnemoc> it's not on my target 16:05 < mnemoc> jsaw: well... 4.1 has been a few weeks on trunk, so your system is not 'pretty much' fresh :) 16:05 -!- keinek [n=keinek@200-70-160-36.mrse.com.ar] has joined #t2 16:05 < keinek> hi 16:06 < mnemoc> keinek: i got a black out like yours, the problem was the cirrusfb module. which i had to *delete* from lib/modules :p 16:08 < keinek> mnemoc, ok... but how can i do that is have a blanck screen? 16:08 < mnemoc> init=/bin/sh 16:08 < mnemoc> then review /var/log/init.msg for the 'ofending' module 16:08 < keinek> all version of 2.2 have this error? 16:09 < mnemoc> no idea 16:09 < mnemoc> at least cirrusfb module at 2.6.16 is broken 16:12 < jsaw> cu later 16:17 < mnemoc> cu jsaw 16:19 < mnemoc> $ svn up 16:19 < mnemoc> svn: Protocolo de URL no reconocido en 'https://svn.exactcode.de/t2/trunk' 16:19 < mnemoc> lovely :) 16:21 < keinek> so i need a stable version 2.1.1.1 minimal for 64 bit :( 16:22 < mnemoc> You have neon version 0.25.5, 16:22 < mnemoc> but Subversion needs neon 0.25.4. 16:26 * mnemoc miss his sweet 2.1 16:35 < misl> mnemoc: is the FPIC_QUIRK still working on trunk ? 16:36 < mnemoc> hasflag FPIC_QUIRK && var_append GCC_WRAPPER_APPEND ' ' '-fPIC' 16:36 < mnemoc> it should be... 16:37 < misl> strange, bzip2 fails on trunk in stage 1 and complains it should be build with -fPIC. Even though the package has the FPIC_QUIRK. 16:37 < CIA-11> amery * r16294 /trunk/package/develop/subversion/subversion.conf: 16:37 < CIA-11> * fixed subversion to use system's neon, even if it doesn't 16:37 < CIA-11> like the version found 16:38 < mnemoc> misl: can you set -x/set +x that part of gcc/parse-config and see if it's really working? 16:38 < misl> The whole error log has only one -fPIC. And that is the one from the error message. 16:38 < mnemoc> stuff done by GCC_WRAPPER_APPEND has never been seen-able on the logs 16:39 < mnemoc> well, just on cmd_wrapper.log 16:39 < mnemoc> not on $stagelvel-$pkg.out 16:39 < CIA-11> amery * r16295 /trunk/package/base/kbd/kbd.init: 16:39 < CIA-11> * changed kbd's init priority from 01 to 05 to be sure it runs 16:39 < CIA-11> after system 16:42 < CIA-11> amery * r16296 /trunk/package/base/sysvinit/system.init: 16:42 < CIA-11> * changed system.init to always use vgchange -ay --ignorelockingfailure 16:42 < CIA-11> without testing if /dev/mapper/control is available (because /dev/mapper 16:42 < CIA-11> doesn't exist anymore at this early stage) 16:43 < CIA-11> amery * r16297 /trunk/package/base/runit/packages/gdm-gdm.tail: * fixed gdm.tail because gdm is now at $sbindir instead of $bindir 16:48 < mnemoc> morfoh: do you remember where kbd/runit symlink is odne? 16:59 -!- jsaw [n=jgs@p54AD0042.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 17:00 < mnemoc> mnemosyne/parse-config :) 17:00 < morfoh> :) 17:09 < keinek> i will try with this http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/mirror/t2/stable/2.1.0/x86-64/t2-minimal/t2-minimal-2.1.0-x86-64_cd1.iso 17:09 < keinek> :P 17:10 < mnemoc> good luck 17:10 < mnemoc> .oO( neither display can show .svg files )o 17:11 < mnemoc> morfoh: ping 17:12 < keinek> the downloading is sloooowly. 17:12 < morfoh> pong 17:12 < keinek> mnemoc, with the stable i can make a new stable desktop. 17:12 < keinek> dont you? 17:12 < morfoh> mnemoc: how do you test the svg issue ? 17:13 < mnemoc> morfoh: opening /opt/xfce4/share/icons/Rodent/scalable/apps/evolution.svg :) 17:14 < mnemoc> $ grep svg config/azazel/packages 17:14 < mnemoc> X -----5---- 150.200 gnome2 librsvg 2.14.2 / extra/multimedia 0 17:14 < mnemoc> O -----5---- 200.020 x11 libsvg 0.1.4 / extra/x11 0 17:14 < mnemoc> O -----5---- 200.030 x11 libsvg-cairo 0.1.6 / extra/x11 0 17:14 < mnemoc> at lkeast on 2.1 librsvg use to be enough 17:15 < mnemoc> probably because this libsvg* are new on xorg 7 :) 17:16 < morfoh> mnemoc: :) 17:16 < mnemoc> these* 17:16 < mnemoc> morfoh: don't forget to add them to the X modules at mnemosyne :p 17:17 < mnemoc> but only for 2.2 17:17 < mnemoc> becasue the packages exist on 2.1, at x11-ng 17:17 < morfoh> I'll try :p 17:17 < mnemoc> :) 17:17 < mnemoc> thnkas 17:18 < morfoh> wy :) 17:18 < mnemoc> :) 17:23 < mnemoc> i'll try to make mnemosyne.pl to handle $vars from env as dependencies 17:25 < mnemoc> and patterns 17:33 < Stelz> Trance Energy 2005 - Disc 2 17:33 < Stelz> :) 17:33 < Stelz> in trance we trust, yeah, mnemoc ?:) 17:34 < mnemoc> accept you like that, but for me it's not music. sorry 17:34 < Stelz> why not? 17:34 < Stelz> the all tracks are so different 17:34 < Stelz> hi, owl 17:36 < owl> there is no text and no instruments 17:36 < owl> hi Stelz :p 17:36 < mnemoc> :) 17:36 * owl playing metal, rock, gothic very loud via soundsystem :p 17:36 < Stelz> owl: 20:36 | Stelz> the all tracks are so different 17:36 < owl> nah, don't think so ;) 17:37 < Stelz> u just dunno.. about underground trance 17:37 < Stelz> not public 17:37 < Stelz> ;) 17:37 < owl> well... tha trance i know is enough ;) 17:38 < Stelz> is enogh to say that u dunno ;) 17:38 < Stelz> & i'm not about *ALL TRANCE* 17:38 < Stelz> :) 17:38 < owl> :p well... i know the kind of music i like... that's enough ;) 17:38 < Stelz> kk 17:41 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p83.129.192.94.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 17:53 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p83.129.180.246.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 18:29 < CIA-11> aldas * r16298 /trunk/package/network/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.desc: * updated ndiswrapper (1.10 -> 1.11) 18:30 -!- owl [n=owl@193.93.28.218] has quit ["pissed."] 19:31 < mnemoc> o_O 19:37 < CIA-11> aldas * r16299 /trunk/package/python/sip/ (sip.conf sip.desc): 19:37 < CIA-11> * updated sip (4.3.2 -> 4.4) 19:37 < CIA-11> * made slightly changes in conf due new release 19:37 < CIA-11> * copyright update 19:38 < CIA-11> aldas * r16300 /trunk/package/python/pyqt/ (pyqt.conf pyqt.desc): 19:38 < CIA-11> * updated pyqt (3.15.1 -> 3.16) 19:38 < CIA-11> * made slightly changes in conf due new version 19:38 < CIA-11> * copyright update 19:38 < CIA-11> aldas * r16301 /trunk/package/network/luma/ (luma.conf luma.desc): 19:38 < CIA-11> * updated luma (2.2.1 -> 2.3) 19:38 < CIA-11> * copyright update 19:46 -!- keinek [n=keinek@200-70-160-36.mrse.com.ar] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:04 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p83.129.192.94.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 20:06 < mnemoc> rxr: is PCI_MODULES implemented on hotplug++? 20:19 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p83.129.192.94.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:56 -!- owl [n=owl@193.93.28.218] has joined #t2 21:00 < owl> re 21:04 < mnemoc> wb pissed owl 21:04 < owl> thx mnemoc 21:05 < Baldzius> :) 21:07 < owl> hi Baldzius . aeh, you#re the guy with the gun... =) 21:08 < Baldzius> no owl, i am nasty boy without the gun atm :/ 21:08 < owl> dammit :( 21:11 < Baldzius> i am not assassin and never was :) 21:11 < owl> *sigh* *schneeeeef* 21:20 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:31 < CIA-11> aldas * r16302 /trunk/package/gnome2/gconf/ (gconf-pkg.conf gconf.conf gconf.desc gconf.postinstall): 21:31 < CIA-11> * updated gconf (2.13.5 -> 2.14.0) 21:31 < CIA-11> * copyright update 21:39 < CIA-11> aldas * r16303 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-vfsmm/gnome-vfsmm.desc: * updated gnome-vfsmm (2.12.0 -> 2.14.0) 21:39 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p83.129.192.94.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 21:44 < CIA-11> aldas * r16304 /trunk/package/gnome2/totem/totem.desc: * updated totem (1.3.92 -> 1.4.0) 21:50 < CIA-11> aldas * r16305 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-python/gnome-python.desc: * updated gnome-python (2.12.3 -> 2.12.4) 21:55 < CIA-11> aldas * r16306 /trunk/package/gnome2/vte/vte.desc: * updated vte (0.11.21 -> 0.12.0) 21:59 < CIA-11> aldas * r16307 /trunk/package/gnome2/pygobject/pygobject.desc: * updated pygobject (2.9.1 -> 2.10.0) 22:04 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p83.129.192.94.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 22:04 < sepp> hello :) 22:04 < morfoh> moin sepp :) 22:05 < sepp> hi morfoh :) 22:09 < CIA-11> aldas * r16308 /trunk/package/gnome2/glabels/ (glabels.conf glabels.desc): 22:09 < CIA-11> * updated glabels (2.0.3 -> 2.0.4) 22:09 < CIA-11> * copyright update 22:10 < Baldzius> hi sepp morfoh 22:10 < morfoh> hi Baldzius :) 22:11 < sepp> hi update-baldzius :) 22:11 < Baldzius> :) 22:12 < morfoh> Baldzius: should I write you an email from time to time ? ... I think just receiving t2 update tracker mails isn't that nice :) 22:12 * morfoh hides :) 22:13 < morfoh> .oO( but perhaps he has a direct interface )o 22:15 < Baldzius> what? :) 22:15 < morfoh> :) 22:15 * Baldzius hides :) 22:16 < sepp> morfoh: what went wrong with the e17 update? :D 22:16 * morfoh is looking for Baldzius 0_O ah! there he is already checking his inbox for update tracker mails 22:16 < morfoh> sepp: nothing ... :) 22:17 < morfoh> sepp: let me restart my ref to see 22:17 < sepp> ahh ok :) 22:17 < morfoh> sepp: but localy I haven't experienced any problem so far 22:17 < morfoh> :) 22:17 < morfoh> but it's quite mini e17 atm 22:27 < owl> hi morfoh 22:27 < morfoh> hi owl 23:09 < rxr> n8 all 23:10 < mnemoc> n8 rxr 23:10 < morfoh> gn8 rxr 23:11 < mnemoc> anyone running a 2.2 (with alsa) tellme what does he have on /dev/snd/ ? 23:11 < mnemoc> +can --- Log closed Sun Mar 26 00:00:32 2006