T2 IRC Log: 2006-03-25

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--- Log opened Sat Mar 25 00:00:26 2006
00:07 < morfoh> owl: hi hustinette :p
00:07 < morfoh> :)
00:07 < owl> morfoh: *kick*
00:08 < morfoh> owl: *kick* *back*
00:08 < morfoh> :)
00:08 < owl> pah
00:08 < morfoh> owl: *kick*
00:08 < owl> *sigh*
00:08 < morfoh> :)
00:09 < owl> http://gallery.karnaya.de/v/user-alben/owl/art/nostalgie/
00:09 < owl> naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarg!
00:10 < morfoh> owl: ?
00:10 < owl> didn't want to post it here... but my mouse and me had different thinkings
00:11 < owl> thinkiingsß?? aeh. thughs even
00:11 < morfoh> thugs ? :)
00:11 < owl> drugs
00:11 < owl> naeh. thourghts
00:11 < owl> aaaaaaaaaaaaaargh. you know what ie meant
00:11 < morfoh> no :)
00:12 < owl> *kci*
00:12 * morfoh hides
00:12 < owl> O_O
00:12 < owl> i mentioned that that iam tnno ablet ot hamtye?
00:12 < morfoh> -_ø
00:12 < owl> O_O
00:12 * owl gitves upt tiypn
00:12 < owl> ?????? wtf???
00:12 < owl> do i have chines kbdmapping?
00:13 < owl> *sigh*
00:13 < morfoh> yo're reiht :)
00:13 < owl> *g*
00:13 < morfoh> :D
00:13 < owl> .oO( weird... )
00:14 < owl> ok... tryint go hit the reight keyws now: my mouse and me had different thoughts.
00:14 < morfoh> we should "archive" this part of the log for later "observation" :)
00:15 < owl> hehehehe, why?
00:15 < morfoh> and publishing it at a special place :)
00:15 < owl> heh... i am still istting in my office...
00:15 < owl> special place like?
00:15 < morfoh> Monumente der Zeiten :)
00:15 < owl> :p
00:15 < owl> *kick*
00:15 < morfoh> :)
00:16 < owl> ansywas - how doy out lkike them?
00:16 < morfoh> owl: a bit sad of course
00:16 < owl> .oO( narf. if i read my thiypis i think an drunk, but i didn't consume drugs or alk or so)
00:18 < owl> sad and expect htas?
00:19 < morfoh> owl: ?
00:19 < owl> kill me. please. thx. :)
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00:29 < keinek> hi
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00:50 < owl> hi hkeineek
00:50 < owl> aeh. keinek
00:51 < keinek> hi owl
01:47 < sparc-kly> hi all
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07:21 < misl> morning all
07:47 < CIA-11> rene * r16278 /trunk/package/firmware/ipw2200-fw/ (ipw2200-fw.conf ipw2200-fw.desc): * updated ipw2200-fw (2.4 -> 3.0)
07:54 < rxr> moin
07:54 < rxr> hi misl
07:54 < rxr> misl: I fixed the generic cross buid regression that let x86 fail on your box
07:54 < rxr> and additionally hacked 1-perl to cross build on soe 64bit platforms, like yours and mine ppc64
08:08 < misl> rxr: :-) great
08:08 < misl> I will immediately start a new build
08:11 < CIA-11> rene * r16279 /trunk/package/develop/oprofile/gcc-41-anon.patch: * fixed oprofile for gcc-41
08:15 < CIA-11> rene * r16280 /trunk/package/develop/redet/ (. redet.cache redet.conf redet.desc):
08:15 < CIA-11> * added redet (8.9) - Regular expression development, just copies files
08:15 < CIA-11> and thus insalls fine, but needs a Iwidget enabled tcl/tk to run
08:18 < rxr> misl: the only thing failing now is linux2*, 24 because it is pure crap and to be removed and 26 because of sub-module builds ... .-((
08:21 < misl> :(
08:22 < misl> rxr: gcc failed on x86 build, I will try a full rebuild.
08:23 < rxr> misl: hm
08:23 < rxr> look in my /mnt/space/rene it built there
08:23 < rxr> though it is not HEAD anymore, mnemoc did a lot of noise on trunk the last days :-(
08:24 < misl> I will do a full rebuild and see what happens
08:24 < misl> perl went fine on x86-64 :)
08:25 < rxr> ,-)
08:35 < Stelz> hello, my friends :)
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08:35 < misl> hi stelz, jsaw
08:36 < Stelz> re, misl :>
08:37 < rxr> hm
08:37 < rxr> hi stelz
08:37 < rxr> 16-mm kerel suck - a lot more time spend lingering in the kernel :-(
08:37 < Stelz> hey, rxr :)
08:38 < rxr> just oproiled it
08:38 < rxr> over 30% B...
08:40 < rxr> samples % symbol name
08:40 < rxr> 25909 9.6615 clear_page
08:40 < rxr> 24766 9.2353 copy_page
08:40 < rxr> 15217 5.6744 page_fault
08:40 < rxr> 13640 5.0864 __strnlen_user
08:40 < rxr> 9542 3.5582 __handle_mm_fault
08:40 < rxr> 8859 3.3035 unmap_vmas
08:40 < rxr> samples| %|
08:40 < rxr> ------------------
08:40 < rxr> 268169 37.4915 /boot/vmlinux_2.6.16-mm1-dist
08:49 * misl out to do some shopping, bbl
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08:53 < CIA-11> rene * r16281 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in:
08:53 < CIA-11> * further polished the desktop target for the upcomming 2.2 release:
08:53 < CIA-11> removed old gnome 1.x compatibility packages such as gtk+12 and
08:53 < CIA-11> glib12 and thus imlib, libglade10, orbit10, ardour, librdf, xmms
08:53 < CIA-11> and xmms-jack, further removed ddd, gst-plugins, xinetd, most
08:53 < CIA-11> syslog-ng, gtoaster, lazyfs, added liboil, gst-plugins-base,
08:53 < CIA-11> oprofile, audacious
08:59 < rxr> jsaw: -# gcc itself doesn't like -fstack-protector
08:59 < rxr> -var_remove GCC_WRAPPER_INSERT ' ' "-fstack-protector"
08:59 < rxr> jsaw: we can just flag gcc NO-SSP, no ?
09:14 < Baldzius> good morning
09:22 < owl> moin
09:23 < Stelz> moin, owl, Baldzius
09:24 < Baldzius> hi owl Stelz
09:26 < owl> hi Stelz , Baldzius
09:32 < rxr> moin Baldzius
09:32 < rxr> hi owl
09:32 < Baldzius> hi rxr
09:34 < owl> hi rxr
09:35 < Stelz> 12:25 | nici> install firefox seems to crash my system, any ideas?
09:35 < Stelz> lol
09:36 < owl> O_O which OS? what did she/he do? installing firefox instead of bash and symlinking /bin/sh to the overwritten bash which is an firefox-bin?
09:36 < Stelz> :))
09:37 < Stelz> owl: some speech on #NetBSD :)
09:37 < owl> oh, the devil consumed drugs ^^
09:37 < Stelz> :>
09:37 < owl> ok, now the owlisch devil will consume tea... otherwise some heads will be ripped off
09:43 < owl> back with tea...
09:46 < CIA-11> rene * r16282 /trunk/package/e16/enlightenment16/e16-conf.in:
09:46 < CIA-11> * removed strict glib12 / gtk+12 check from e16-conf.in,
09:46 < CIA-11> enlightenment16 itself and some e16 packages build without it, so
09:46 < CIA-11> leave it for the packages to abort compilation and thus allow e16
09:46 < CIA-11> to be included in legacy-less targets
10:05 < CIA-11> rene * r16283 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in:
10:05 < CIA-11> * only build the windowmanager of enlightenment16 and selected
10:05 < CIA-11> filesystem packages in the desktop target
10:13 < CIA-11> rene * r16284 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in:
10:13 < CIA-11> * explicitly list the textproc packages we want in desktop and thus
10:13 < CIA-11> remove 11 more unwanted packages from the desktop target
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10:48 < CIA-11> rene * r16285 /trunk/package/base/linux24/linux24.conf:
10:48 < CIA-11> * tweaked the linux package to install vmlinux in any case (for
10:48 < CIA-11> debugging, e.g. oprofile)
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11:11 < morfoh> moin
11:12 < Stelz> ;>
11:12 < Stelz> moin, morfoh
11:12 < morfoh> moin Stelz :)
11:12 < Stelz> velvet morning © kayu vs albert
11:12 < Stelz> :)
11:25 < CIA-11> chris * r16286 /trunk/package/security/libpreludedb/libpreludedb.desc: * updated libpreludedb (0.9.6 -> 0.9.7)
11:47 < mnemoc> rehi
11:47 < morfoh> wb mnemoc :)
11:47 < mnemoc> thx morfoh :)
11:51 < Stelz> ЖЮ
11:51 < Stelz> :>
11:51 < Stelz> hi, mnemoc, how r u?
12:09 < owl> hi mnemoc , morfoh
12:10 < morfoh> hi owl
12:14 < mnemoc> Stelz: with headache, and you?
12:14 < mnemoc> hi owlita
12:14 < Stelz> :(
12:14 < Stelz> me is ok..
12:15 * owl offering mnemoc an 'aspirin forte'
12:19 < mnemoc> thanks owlita :)
12:19 < owl> de nada ;)
12:20 * Stelz dunno this lang.. :<
12:20 < owl> Stelz: spanish
12:20 < mnemoc> that'S spanish russian boy
12:20 < Stelz> :>
12:21 < Stelz> Gatecrasher Digital - Disc 2 (Meltdown)
12:21 < Stelz> :>
12:21 < Stelz> pwn4g3
12:22 < owl> .oO( all those russian words i once knew are flown away... dammit )
12:22 < owl> pw4g3? - hrmpf. i guess it's not good to type your pwd into irssi... which ip am i allowed to connect to, now? ;)
12:23 < mnemoc> :D
12:23 < mnemoc> and worse on the logged channel
12:23 < owl> ack :)
12:25 < Stelz> owl: pwn4g3 = ownage :>
12:26 < owl> O_O
12:26 < Stelz> Gatecrasher Digital - Disc 2 (Meltdown) < ownz :>
12:26 < owl> you're speaking strange sometimes, my russian friend :D
12:27 < Stelz> yup.. i know :>
12:27 < owl> well ;) what music is that?
12:27 * Stelz Trance X Station Stats @ [ http://vex.oze.net:8000/ ]
12:27 * Stelz Trance X Station @ [ http://vex.oze.net:8000/listen.ogg ]
12:27 < Stelz> :>
12:27 < mnemoc> not music, noise
12:27 < Stelz> mnemoc: u dunno
12:27 < Stelz> as i said before
12:28 < owl> O_o trance... long time ago, when i was much younger than now, i also listened to that kind of - aeh - music(???) - whatever. long time ago... ^^ *old wise wife speaking*
12:29 < mnemoc> wife? hanve't you killed him yet?
12:30 < owl> wife. women. whatever ^^
12:30 < owl> aeh. woman. ^
12:30 < mnemoc> :)
12:30 < owl> <- not multiple
12:30 < mnemoc> :)
12:30 < Stelz> :>>
12:31 < owl> guys, it's not nice to laugh about an old old owl.
12:31 < mnemoc> you old?
12:31 < mnemoc> pff
12:31 < Stelz> ":>>" - it's not a laugh
12:31 < owl> what then?
12:31 < Stelz> laugh is ":>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"
12:31 < Stelz> etc
12:31 < owl> mnemoc: yes. i am old. and looking like a zombie
12:32 < mnemoc> owl: you kill him and problem solved
12:32 < owl> mnemoc: why?
12:32 < Stelz> y ?
12:33 < mnemoc> owl: old style, eating the enemy to gain it's energy
12:33 < owl> *gggg*
12:33 < owl> my enemy is inside my head..
12:33 < owl> *eating owl-brain*
12:33 < mnemoc> you can'T eat that one
12:34 < owl> dammit. why not? :(
12:34 * mnemoc trying to iamgine the scene
12:35 < Stelz> lolz
12:35 < owl> :p
12:35 < owl> anyway. off, buying new hw. bybe, bye
12:36 * mnemoc should have bought food
12:36 < owl> hrmpf.
12:36 < Stelz> owl: r u k?
12:37 < mnemoc> .oO( this russina trance-boy speaks weird )o
12:37 < Stelz> mnemoc: relax ;)
12:37 < mnemoc> :)
12:39 < CIA-11> rene * r16287 /trunk/package/base/sysvinit/system.init:
12:39 < CIA-11> * fixed sysvinit/system to not unmount / before others resulting in
12:39 < CIA-11> ugly error messages on the screen, streamlined and cleaned the code
12:39 < CIA-11> on the way, added removal of lingering mtab~* lockfiles on boot
12:39 < CIA-11> and removed some superfluous sleeps on the way
12:40 < mnemoc> morfoh: after i re-run mkinitrd the hotplug++ became static and the box booted
12:42 < mnemoc> and somehting done by hotplug is killing my qemu video output :(
12:45 < mnemoc> cirrusfb
12:45 < mnemoc> added to PCI_SKIP_MODULES, and trying again
12:46 < rxr> when you are on trunk I hope you know that hotplug++ does not yet support skip lists ...
12:46 < mnemoc> ehm
12:46 < mnemoc> i didn't know
12:47 < mnemoc> that's not good
12:48 < mnemoc> so, what's the officiaal suggestion?
12:48 * mnemoc wonders if cirrusfb did also blank keinek's display yesterday
12:49 < rxr> aside fixing cirrusfb? rm the module from the disc or implement skip list to hotplug++ ....
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12:56 < misl> hi folks :)
12:56 < Stelz> hello, misl ;>
12:56 < misl> hi Stelz
12:57 < rxr> wb. misl
12:58 < misl> hi rxr
12:58 < misl> rxr: both minimal x86 and x86-64 failed :(
12:58 < rxr> misl: hm - what error ?
12:59 < CIA-11> rene * r16288 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: * added fget to desktop (net install)
12:59 < mnemoc> o_O
12:59 < misl> minimal x86 in stage 1 glibc
12:59 < misl> minimal x86-64 in stage 0 file
12:59 < misl> sorry stage 1 file
12:59 < rxr> misl: hm - built some days ago :-(
12:59 < rxr> what are the errors ?
13:01 < misl> glibc:
13:01 < misl> make[2]: *** No rule to make target `/mnt/space/t2/trunk/src.glibc.minimal-x86.2
13:01 < misl> 0060325.100127.15002.noisy/glibc-20051128/objdir/nptl/pthread_spin_trylock.o', n
13:01 < misl> eeded by `lib-noranlib'. Stop.
13:01 < misl> make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
13:03 < misl> file:
13:03 < misl> file -C -m magic
13:03 < misl> magic, 3745: Warning type `medate x Previous dump %s,' invalid
13:03 < misl> magic, 3746: Warning type `medate x This dump %s,' invalid
13:03 < misl> file: could not find any magic files!
13:03 < misl> make[2]: *** [magic.mgc] Error 255
13:04 < rxr> never seen that ...
13:04 < rxr> most probably menmocs massive and untested stylistic changes the last two days :-(
13:05 < rxr> my noisy checkout appears to be on Revision: 16050
13:05 < rxr> maybe you might try svn up -r 16050 and see if it all builds then
13:05 < misl> rxr: Redoing the x86-64 build. So it will rebuild from scratch.
13:06 < misl> I will try that revision later :)
13:06 < rxr> misl ok
13:08 * rxr back to 2.6.15-mm4
13:08 < rxr> all the newer kernel have strange lagging performance charakteristic - at least with reiser4
13:09 < Baldzius> i noticed that in 2.6.15.x when switched form *14
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13:11 < Stelz> flying rxr
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13:12 < mnemoc> f*, modprobe initio (for the external writer) hungs the machine :'(
13:12 < rxr_> ouhm, maybe my kernel patch is not that good ?
13:12 < mnemoc> no no, the box is a 2.1
13:12 < rxr_> Baldzius: are you on reiser4 as well or overall more lagging kernel ?
13:12 < mnemoc> the iso i want to burn is 2.2 with your patch
13:13 < Baldzius> rxr_: yes i am on reiser4 and each time i upgrade kernel it's lagging more and more, my 2 cents
13:13 < Baldzius> just
13:14 < rxr_> Baldzius: ic
13:14 < Baldzius> i really enjoyed reiser4 with 2.6.14
13:14 < rxr_> I stay on that 2.6.15-mm4 for now
13:14 < rxr_> though it has a ioctl32 compat bug :-(
13:14 * rxr_ should backport that ,-))
13:15 < rxr_> yes a pitty that reiser4 is not in official an more care is taken not to break random stuff just due kernel source prettification without a real benefit ...
13:15 < mnemoc> rxr_: any other machine around here has cdr?
13:15 < rxr_> nope
13:15 < mnemoc> :(
13:15 < rxr_> but it one worked on your box, maybe reboot and retry ?
13:15 < mnemoc> it worked on the 2.2 which was previously installed here
13:16 < mnemoc> but yes, i have rebooted and re-tried 6 times by now
13:16 < rxr_> hm
13:16 * mnemoc really wanted to reinstall the machine today
13:16 < rxr_> install manually ...
13:17 < mnemoc> into the same partitions... uhm ... evil
13:17 < mnemoc> but, maybe i can use the old CD to boot....
13:17 < rxr_> open some other vg ?
13:18 < mnemoc> uhm, that's a good alternative
13:18 < mnemoc> i'll resize home to free some space
13:19 < mnemoc> i need to logoff for that, bbl
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13:30 < CIA-11> aldas * r16289 /trunk/package/develop/gambas/gambas.desc: * updated gambas (1.0.14 -> 1.0.15)
13:55 < rxr_> hm
13:55 < rxr_> 232843 45.9513 no-vmlinux
13:55 < rxr_> 187066 36.9173 cc1
13:55 < rxr_> 23036 4.5461 ld
13:55 < rxr_> 19974 3.9418 bash
13:55 < rxr_> 13572 2.6784 gawk
13:55 < rxr_> 5578 1.1008 sort
13:55 < rxr_> 3863 0.7624 bzip2
13:55 < rxr_> 3541 0.6988 as
13:55 < rxr_> 3178 0.6272 ccache
13:55 < rxr_> 2629 0.5188 sed
13:55 < rxr_> T2 building xterm
13:56 < rxr_> I think there is something where wrong with such a high in-kernel cycle consumption
14:02 < rxr_> too bad I have no vmlinxu for this kernel to take a look where 45% are cooked away
14:02 -!- You're now known as rxr
14:53 < CIA-11> aldas * r16290 /trunk/package/graphic/netpbm/ (4 files):
14:53 < CIA-11> * updated netpbm (10.31 -> 10.32)
14:53 < CIA-11> * copyright update
14:53 < CIA-11> rene * r16291 /trunk/package/graphic/imagemagick/imagemagick.desc: * updated imagemagick (6.2.5-5 -> 6.2.6-5)
14:56 < CIA-11> rene * r16292 /trunk/package/develop/redet/redet.desc: * updated redet (8.9 -> 8.10)
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15:02 < rxr> hm
15:02 < rxr> just loading and saving a bw tiff files is twice as fast in exact-iamge compared to image-magick
15:06 < rxr> heh
15:06 < rxr> and imagemagick doesnot load my 16 bit per color channel tiff ...
15:07 * rxr used econvert to resave it without tags imagemagick does not know about to process it with convert ...
15:13 < misl> o_O uhh?
15:16 < misl> x86_64-t2-linux-gnu-gcc -shared -Wl,-soname -Wl,libbz2.so.1.0 -o libbz2.so.1.0.3 blocksort.o huffman.o crctable.o randtable.o compress.o decompress.o bzlib.o /mnt/space/t2/trunk/build/minimal-x86-64-2.2.0-alpha-x86-64-generic/TOOLCHAIN/tools.cross/crosscc/../lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/4.1.0/../../../../x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/bin/ld: blocksort.o: relocation R_X86_64_32 against `a local...
15:16 < misl> rxr: bzip2 fails in stage 1 (x86-64)
15:16 < misl> log says:
15:16 < misl> ...symbol' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC
15:16 < misl> blocksort.o: could not read symbols: Bad value
15:16 < misl> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
15:16 < misl> make: *** [all] Error 1
15:16 < misl> but bzip2 already has FPIC_QUIRK
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15:24 < jsaw> re
15:24 < rxr> misl: something in the last days got majorly screwed up
15:25 < rxr> maybe in the atstage or what the helper was named changes or something in that earea ...
15:25 < rxr> misl: I would need to debug / review myself where it comes from
15:25 < jsaw> rxr: I actually thought, NO-SSP would add -fno-stack-protector option...
15:25 < rxr> jsaw: AFAIR it controls injection of -fstrack-protector
15:25 < jsaw> yep, I saw that later ...
15:26 < jsaw> I'll add NO-SSP now, and remove the according lines in .conf
15:27 < misl> rxr: ack, but the strange thing is when debugging both make and make -f Makefile-libbz2.so seems to work without problems
15:27 < jsaw> rxr: btw, current status of SSP build:
15:27 < jsaw> 934 builds total, 579 completed fine, 4 with errors.
15:27 < jsaw> [5] x86/syslinux [5] fonts/cheapskatefonts
15:27 < jsaw> [5] develop/valgrind [5] textproc/tex4ht
15:28 < rxr> jsaw: good ,-)
15:28 < rxr> I hoep someone tracks those recently causes major cross headache ...
15:28 < jsaw> (P4 btw.)
15:29 < rxr> jsaw: you do not have a amd64 anymore? or in the lab ?
15:30 < jsaw> in the lab
15:31 < jsaw> (it's time to remove the outdated rock installation, but I have to test the fragile vmware first...)
15:33 < jsaw> rxr: I don't want to do the whole linux24 cleanup right now, but, I disable linux24 now, ok?
15:33 < rxr> ah yep
15:33 < rxr> http://www.billposer.org/Software/redet.html
15:33 < rxr> ^- includes minised reference links now ,-))
15:35 < mnemoc> rxr: the initio module is triggerd by hotplug++ at initrd, but also hangs
15:35 * mnemoc running his first 2.2-based system, but without X yet
15:36 < CIA-11> jsaw * r16293 /trunk/package/base/linux24/linux24.desc: * disable linux24 by default
15:36 < mnemoc> what was the reason to change base uid from 500 to 1000?
15:43 < mnemoc> rxr: i had to run mkfontdir by hand, and now X is running
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15:54 < mnemoc> .oO( this 2.2 is pretty anoying )o
15:56 < jsaw> mnemoc: make a list...
15:57 < mnemoc> anyone knows why thunderbird is segfaulting?
15:57 * Stelz is on sylpheed
15:58 < jsaw> mnemoc: not here
15:59 < mnemoc> firefox is also segfaulting
15:59 < mnemoc> jsaw: frsh system?
15:59 < jsaw> pretty much
16:00 < jsaw> but no gcc 4.1 yet
16:01 < jsaw> mnemoc: does seamonkey work?
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16:04 < mnemoc> it's not on my target
16:05 < mnemoc> jsaw: well... 4.1 has been a few weeks on trunk, so your system is not 'pretty much' fresh :)
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16:05 < keinek> hi
16:06 < mnemoc> keinek: i got a black out like yours, the problem was the cirrusfb module. which i had to *delete* from lib/modules :p
16:08 < keinek> mnemoc, ok... but how can i do that is have a blanck screen?
16:08 < mnemoc> init=/bin/sh
16:08 < mnemoc> then review /var/log/init.msg for the 'ofending' module
16:08 < keinek> all version of 2.2 have this error?
16:09 < mnemoc> no idea
16:09 < mnemoc> at least cirrusfb module at 2.6.16 is broken
16:12 < jsaw> cu later
16:17 < mnemoc> cu jsaw
16:19 < mnemoc> $ svn up
16:19 < mnemoc> svn: Protocolo de URL no reconocido en 'https://svn.exactcode.de/t2/trunk'
16:19 < mnemoc> lovely :)
16:21 < keinek> so i need a stable version 2.1.1.1 minimal for 64 bit :(
16:22 < mnemoc> You have neon version 0.25.5,
16:22 < mnemoc> but Subversion needs neon 0.25.4.
16:26 * mnemoc miss his sweet 2.1
16:35 < misl> mnemoc: is the FPIC_QUIRK still working on trunk ?
16:36 < mnemoc> hasflag FPIC_QUIRK && var_append GCC_WRAPPER_APPEND ' ' '-fPIC'
16:36 < mnemoc> it should be...
16:37 < misl> strange, bzip2 fails on trunk in stage 1 and complains it should be build with -fPIC. Even though the package has the FPIC_QUIRK.
16:37 < CIA-11> amery * r16294 /trunk/package/develop/subversion/subversion.conf:
16:37 < CIA-11> * fixed subversion to use system's neon, even if it doesn't
16:37 < CIA-11> like the version found
16:38 < mnemoc> misl: can you set -x/set +x that part of gcc/parse-config and see if it's really working?
16:38 < misl> The whole error log has only one -fPIC. And that is the one from the error message.
16:38 < mnemoc> stuff done by GCC_WRAPPER_APPEND has never been seen-able on the logs
16:39 < mnemoc> well, just on cmd_wrapper.log
16:39 < mnemoc> not on $stagelvel-$pkg.out
16:39 < CIA-11> amery * r16295 /trunk/package/base/kbd/kbd.init:
16:39 < CIA-11> * changed kbd's init priority from 01 to 05 to be sure it runs
16:39 < CIA-11> after system
16:42 < CIA-11> amery * r16296 /trunk/package/base/sysvinit/system.init:
16:42 < CIA-11> * changed system.init to always use vgchange -ay --ignorelockingfailure
16:42 < CIA-11> without testing if /dev/mapper/control is available (because /dev/mapper
16:42 < CIA-11> doesn't exist anymore at this early stage)
16:43 < CIA-11> amery * r16297 /trunk/package/base/runit/packages/gdm-gdm.tail: * fixed gdm.tail because gdm is now at $sbindir instead of $bindir
16:48 < mnemoc> morfoh: do you remember where kbd/runit symlink is odne?
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17:00 < mnemoc> mnemosyne/parse-config :)
17:00 < morfoh> :)
17:09 < keinek> i will try with this http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/mirror/t2/stable/2.1.0/x86-64/t2-minimal/t2-minimal-2.1.0-x86-64_cd1.iso
17:09 < keinek> :P
17:10 < mnemoc> good luck
17:10 < mnemoc> .oO( neither display can show .svg files )o
17:11 < mnemoc> morfoh: ping
17:12 < keinek> the downloading is sloooowly.
17:12 < morfoh> pong
17:12 < keinek> mnemoc, with the stable i can make a new stable desktop.
17:12 < keinek> dont you?
17:12 < morfoh> mnemoc: how do you test the svg issue ?
17:13 < mnemoc> morfoh: opening /opt/xfce4/share/icons/Rodent/scalable/apps/evolution.svg :)
17:14 < mnemoc> $ grep svg config/azazel/packages
17:14 < mnemoc> X -----5---- 150.200 gnome2 librsvg 2.14.2 / extra/multimedia 0
17:14 < mnemoc> O -----5---- 200.020 x11 libsvg 0.1.4 / extra/x11 0
17:14 < mnemoc> O -----5---- 200.030 x11 libsvg-cairo 0.1.6 / extra/x11 0
17:14 < mnemoc> at lkeast on 2.1 librsvg use to be enough
17:15 < mnemoc> probably because this libsvg* are new on xorg 7 :)
17:16 < morfoh> mnemoc: :)
17:16 < mnemoc> these*
17:16 < mnemoc> morfoh: don't forget to add them to the X modules at mnemosyne :p
17:17 < mnemoc> but only for 2.2
17:17 < mnemoc> becasue the packages exist on 2.1, at x11-ng
17:17 < morfoh> I'll try :p
17:17 < mnemoc> :)
17:17 < mnemoc> thnkas
17:18 < morfoh> wy :)
17:18 < mnemoc> :)
17:23 < mnemoc> i'll try to make mnemosyne.pl to handle $vars from env as dependencies
17:25 < mnemoc> and patterns
17:33 < Stelz> Trance Energy 2005 - Disc 2
17:33 < Stelz> :)
17:33 < Stelz> in trance we trust, yeah, mnemoc ?:)
17:34 < mnemoc> accept you like that, but for me it's not music. sorry
17:34 < Stelz> why not?
17:34 < Stelz> the all tracks are so different
17:34 < Stelz> hi, owl
17:36 < owl> there is no text and no instruments
17:36 < owl> hi Stelz :p
17:36 < mnemoc> :)
17:36 * owl playing metal, rock, gothic very loud via soundsystem :p
17:36 < Stelz> owl: 20:36 | Stelz> the all tracks are so different
17:36 < owl> nah, don't think so ;)
17:37 < Stelz> u just dunno.. about underground trance
17:37 < Stelz> not public
17:37 < Stelz> ;)
17:37 < owl> well... tha trance i know is enough ;)
17:38 < Stelz> is enogh to say that u dunno ;)
17:38 < Stelz> & i'm not about *ALL TRANCE*
17:38 < Stelz> :)
17:38 < owl> :p well... i know the kind of music i like... that's enough ;)
17:38 < Stelz> kk
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18:29 < CIA-11> aldas * r16298 /trunk/package/network/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.desc: * updated ndiswrapper (1.10 -> 1.11)
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19:31 < mnemoc> o_O
19:37 < CIA-11> aldas * r16299 /trunk/package/python/sip/ (sip.conf sip.desc):
19:37 < CIA-11> * updated sip (4.3.2 -> 4.4)
19:37 < CIA-11> * made slightly changes in conf due new release
19:37 < CIA-11> * copyright update
19:38 < CIA-11> aldas * r16300 /trunk/package/python/pyqt/ (pyqt.conf pyqt.desc):
19:38 < CIA-11> * updated pyqt (3.15.1 -> 3.16)
19:38 < CIA-11> * made slightly changes in conf due new version
19:38 < CIA-11> * copyright update
19:38 < CIA-11> aldas * r16301 /trunk/package/network/luma/ (luma.conf luma.desc):
19:38 < CIA-11> * updated luma (2.2.1 -> 2.3)
19:38 < CIA-11> * copyright update
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20:06 < mnemoc> rxr: is PCI_MODULES implemented on hotplug++?
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21:00 < owl> re
21:04 < mnemoc> wb pissed owl
21:04 < owl> thx mnemoc
21:05 < Baldzius> :)
21:07 < owl> hi Baldzius . aeh, you#re the guy with the gun... =)
21:08 < Baldzius> no owl, i am nasty boy without the gun atm :/
21:08 < owl> dammit :(
21:11 < Baldzius> i am not assassin and never was :)
21:11 < owl> *sigh* *schneeeeef*
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21:31 < CIA-11> aldas * r16302 /trunk/package/gnome2/gconf/ (gconf-pkg.conf gconf.conf gconf.desc gconf.postinstall):
21:31 < CIA-11> * updated gconf (2.13.5 -> 2.14.0)
21:31 < CIA-11> * copyright update
21:39 < CIA-11> aldas * r16303 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-vfsmm/gnome-vfsmm.desc: * updated gnome-vfsmm (2.12.0 -> 2.14.0)
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21:44 < CIA-11> aldas * r16304 /trunk/package/gnome2/totem/totem.desc: * updated totem (1.3.92 -> 1.4.0)
21:50 < CIA-11> aldas * r16305 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-python/gnome-python.desc: * updated gnome-python (2.12.3 -> 2.12.4)
21:55 < CIA-11> aldas * r16306 /trunk/package/gnome2/vte/vte.desc: * updated vte (0.11.21 -> 0.12.0)
21:59 < CIA-11> aldas * r16307 /trunk/package/gnome2/pygobject/pygobject.desc: * updated pygobject (2.9.1 -> 2.10.0)
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22:04 < sepp> hello :)
22:04 < morfoh> moin sepp :)
22:05 < sepp> hi morfoh :)
22:09 < CIA-11> aldas * r16308 /trunk/package/gnome2/glabels/ (glabels.conf glabels.desc):
22:09 < CIA-11> * updated glabels (2.0.3 -> 2.0.4)
22:09 < CIA-11> * copyright update
22:10 < Baldzius> hi sepp morfoh
22:10 < morfoh> hi Baldzius :)
22:11 < sepp> hi update-baldzius :)
22:11 < Baldzius> :)
22:12 < morfoh> Baldzius: should I write you an email from time to time ? ... I think just receiving t2 update tracker mails isn't that nice :)
22:12 * morfoh hides :)
22:13 < morfoh> .oO( but perhaps he has a direct interface )o
22:15 < Baldzius> what? :)
22:15 < morfoh> :)
22:15 * Baldzius hides :)
22:16 < sepp> morfoh: what went wrong with the e17 update? :D
22:16 * morfoh is looking for Baldzius 0_O ah! there he is already checking his inbox for update tracker mails
22:16 < morfoh> sepp: nothing ... :)
22:17 < morfoh> sepp: let me restart my ref to see
22:17 < sepp> ahh ok :)
22:17 < morfoh> sepp: but localy I haven't experienced any problem so far
22:17 < morfoh> :)
22:17 < morfoh> but it's quite mini e17 atm
22:27 < owl> hi morfoh
22:27 < morfoh> hi owl
23:09 < rxr> n8 all
23:10 < mnemoc> n8 rxr
23:10 < morfoh> gn8 rxr
23:11 < mnemoc> anyone running a 2.2 (with alsa) tellme what does he have on /dev/snd/ ?
23:11 < mnemoc> +can
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