--- Log opened Thu Mar 23 00:00:13 2006
00:11 < jsaw> gn8 Stelz 
00:12 < jsaw> hi morfoh 
00:12 < morfoh> hi jsaw :)
00:12 < morfoh> how is the "stella" today ?
00:12 < morfoh> :)
00:13 < morfoh> and of course, how is her daddy ? :)
00:14 < jsaw> Stella is, well, eh...
00:14 < jsaw> getting on our nerves again...
00:14 < jsaw> :)
00:14 < morfoh> so ... business as usual :)
00:14 < jsaw> yep
00:15 < jsaw> at least 3 days she really felt really sick...
00:16 < jsaw> sick = Stella behaves extremely rational
00:16 < morfoh> :)
00:16 < jsaw> well, otoh, a good sign that the bones heal...
00:16 < jsaw> :|
00:17 < morfoh> guess with all those names she is quite a little diva :)
00:17 < jsaw> oh my, *both* are
00:18 < morfoh> yeah ... I can imagine :)
00:20 < jsaw> http://www.spiegel.de/kultur/gesellschaft/0,1518,336616,00.html
00:21 < jsaw> first image --^
00:23 < morfoh> hehe ... poor guy :)
00:23 < morfoh> you've even to fight with 3 women in your close environment :)
00:24 < jsaw> *speak soft*
00:24 < jsaw> :)
00:25 < morfoh> .oO( mnemoc has also 3 girls ... hopefully this is not symptomatic for "poor" people at #t2 )o :)
00:25  * morfoh fears about handling 3 girls :)
00:26 < morfoh> jsaw: so you and mnemoc are getting big respect from me :)
00:26 < morfoh> tough guys :)
00:27 < jsaw> hmmm, well, I can relax during work...
00:27 < jsaw> the respect goes to my wife
00:27 < morfoh> nice relaxing :)
00:27 < jsaw> :)
00:27 < morfoh> jsaw: wearing your asbestos suite I guess :)
00:27 < jsaw> lol
00:28 < jsaw> right now I'm only trying to finish a simple 2D drawing with qcad
00:28 < jsaw> no need for asbestors
00:28 < jsaw> asbestos*
00:28 < morfoh> :)
00:29 < morfoh> jsaw: @MPI atm ?
00:29 < jsaw> but I'll need it when my boss comes back from holidays next week *g*
00:29 < jsaw> morfoh: no
00:29 < morfoh> good :)
00:29 < jsaw> beer on the desk, monitor in front
00:30 < morfoh> jsaw: pssst ... same here :p
00:30 < morfoh> jsaw: cheers 
00:30 < jsaw> :)
00:30 < jsaw> cheers
00:31  * morfoh has to write _lots_ of doku till friday 
00:31 < jsaw> writing...
00:31 < jsaw> oh my
00:31 < morfoh> yeah ... but I'm having a good "flow" atm :)
00:32 < morfoh> guess it's the beer :p
00:32  * jsaw hides and let morfoh continue
00:32 < morfoh> and I was running for 1h before 
00:32 < jsaw> oh
00:32 < jsaw> *good boy*
00:32 < morfoh> jsaw: you don't have to hide 
00:33  * jsaw looks down on his growing belly
00:33 < jsaw> morfoh: ok
00:33 < morfoh> yeah ... I#m quite happy that I managed to get back on doing sports
00:33 < morfoh> at least running
00:34 < morfoh> but I would like to play bball again :)
00:34 < jsaw> O.O
00:35  * morfoh was a quite good point guard some years ago 
00:36 < morfoh> I had no other chance with 1.80m :p
00:36 < jsaw> :)
00:37 < jsaw> I only did some table tennis some 100a ago
00:39 < morfoh> If I remember correctly ... I had an average of 22 points/per game in my last season in the "landesliga" and I'd like to get back to this :)
00:40 < morfoh> jsaw: but table tennis is also nice :)
00:40  * morfoh likes to play tt too :)
00:41 < jsaw> 22points/per game...??? 
00:41 < jsaw> anything to compare to?
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00:42 < morfoh> hmmm ... in fact the 2 smallest made the most points
00:43 < jsaw> gn8 CIA-18
00:43 < jsaw> morfoh: I have no idea what the number means... that was the question
00:43 < morfoh> our whole team wasn't that tall in average and we had to train distance shots
00:44 < jsaw> how does it compare to, for example the number of points of a full game, or so
00:44 < jsaw> ?
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00:44 < morfoh> yeah ... full game around 70-90 points
00:44 < jsaw> Mahlzeit, CIA-16
00:44 < morfoh> :D
00:44 < jsaw> morfoh: oh
00:45 < morfoh> we played with too point guards
00:45 < morfoh> s/too/two//
00:45 < morfoh> oops
00:46 < morfoh> but our second point guard, who was 2cm smaller than me was the best :)
00:46 < jsaw> ok, still, sounds like a pretty good number
00:46 < morfoh> with around 28-32 points
00:47 < jsaw> how are the points distributed? catching etc. ?
00:47 < morfoh> nope
00:47 < morfoh> real "goals"
00:48 < morfoh> 2 points for "normal" goals and 3 points for succesful distance shots
00:48 < morfoh> as you can imagine we were quite succesful with distance shots
00:49 < morfoh> we trained distance shots with medicine balls :p
00:49 < morfoh> I trained distance shots for at least 2h per day
00:49 < jsaw> O.O
00:49 < morfoh> :)
00:50 < jsaw> OO.OO
00:51 < morfoh> during training without opponent we had an average of 80-90% hit rate
00:51 < morfoh> for 3 point distance shots
00:52 < morfoh> jsaw: believe me you're becoming a machine if you train that often :)
00:52 < jsaw> *yeah*
00:53 < morfoh> you'll feel if the shot will be succesful if it leaves your middle finger
00:53 < morfoh> I mean the ball
00:53 < morfoh> :)
00:57 < jsaw> :)
01:02 < jsaw> i think, I'll go to bed too
01:03 < morfoh> yeah ... me too in 5min ... just checking my DocBook -> {html, ps, pdf} generator script with svn :)
01:03 < morfoh> jsaw: sleep well jsaw :)
01:03 < jsaw> sleep well morfoh 
01:04 < morfoh> thx jsaw :)
01:04 < morfoh> hehe ... it works :)
01:04 < morfoh> gn8 folks :)
01:07 < morfoh> Error logs from ref-2.2.0-alpha-x86-pentium-mmx-generic:
01:07 < morfoh> 4475 builds total, 348 completed fine, 0 with errors.
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01:11 < keinek> hi
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01:14 < sparc-kly> hi keinek 
01:14 < sparc-kly> :P
01:14 < sparc-kly> como los alemanes estan durmiendo es hr de sabotearles el canal :) 
01:15 < morfoh> sparc-kly: "los alemanos" will kick your ass :p
01:15 < sparc-kly> morfoh: LOL hahahahahahhaahha 
01:15 < morfoh> :)
01:15 < sparc-kly> heheh :) 
01:15 < morfoh> gn8 :)
01:15 < morfoh> finaly
01:16 < sparc-kly> goos nights 
01:16 < sparc-kly> good*
01:16 < morfoh> sparc-kly: thx ... :)
01:16 < morfoh> and hi keinek btw :p
01:16 < morfoh> bye bye :)
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01:21 < keinek> hi sparc-kly, hi morfoh 
01:21 < keinek> :)
01:22 < keinek> morfoh,  : D
01:22 < keinek> <morfoh> sparc-kly: "los alemanos" will kick your ass :p  <--- ha ha ha
01:23 < sparc-kly> heheheh :)
01:24 < sparc-kly> como has estado keinek?
01:26 < keinek> sparc-kly, come to #red-handed for talk in spanish, i want told you something.
01:26 < sparc-kly> i love talk in spanish here. :)
01:27 < keinek> ok, go to red-handed.com.ar and try the new online radio.
01:27 < keinek> i will upload in a while the last 4 tracks.
01:27 < keinek> but the first is now ready.
01:28 < keinek> is like xmms but online in flash.
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02:45 < madtux> hi
02:55 < keinek> hi mike.
02:56 < madtux> hi pelotu
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04:15 < madtux> bolu?
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07:00 < mnemoc> how silence is this today
07:14 < rxr> re
07:14 < mnemoc> wb rxr
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07:32 < mnemoc> anyone else having zlib unresolved symbols while building gnutls? (trunk)
07:57 < mnemoc> Baldzius: do you know what's wrong with pixie 1.5.x ?
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08:18 < rxr> O -----5---- 130.000 security gnutls 1.2.10 / extra/security extra/development 0
08:18 < rxr> I could emerge it ... ,-)
08:20 < mnemoc> :(
08:33 < mnemoc> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/MITKAQ10.html
08:34 < rxr> == 03/23/06 09:36:17 =[9]=> Finished building package gnutls.
08:34 < mnemoc> yes yes, i know
08:35 < rxr> hm ?
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08:36 < mnemoc> it always works for you :(
08:37 < rxr> nope I said I do not know and have just rebuild it
08:37 < rxr> build it
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08:38 < mnemoc> yes, but you have the magic touch :)
08:38 < rxr> Processing x86 ...
08:38 < rxr> 104 builds total, 102 completed fine, 2 with errors.
08:38 < rxr> Processing x86-64 ...
08:38 < rxr> 105 builds total, 103 completed fine, 2 with errors.
08:39 < rxr> ^- noisy
08:39 < rxr> only the linux* kernels fail now due to the change to really bail on non-manual builds on sub-module fail
08:46 < mnemoc> do you have opencdk installed?
08:54 < rxr> yes, it was build by Emerge IIRC
08:55 < mnemoc> after i added it (to not use the pre-included copy) it passed
09:04 < CIA-11> rene * r16160 /trunk/package/x11/cairo/ (cairo.desc hidden-INT-fix.patch): * updated cairo (1.0.2 -> 1.0.4)
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09:20 < morfoh> ah! now it's the right channel :)
09:20 < morfoh> moin moin :)
09:20 < mnemoc> o_O
09:20 < morfoh> moin mnemoc :)
09:20 < mnemoc> moin morfoh 
09:21 < morfoh> mnemoc: I missed the "t"
09:21 < mnemoc> just a 50% of the characters of the channel
09:21 < mnemoc> name
09:21 < morfoh> and was finding myself in a french channel
09:22 < morfoh> .oO( bean counter )o 
09:23 < mnemoc> .oO
09:28 < Baldzius> good morning mnemoc morfoh rxr
09:28 < Baldzius> mnemoc: no, ask sepp :)
09:29 < mnemoc> hi Baldzius 
09:34 < morfoh> hi Baldzius 
09:34 < morfoh> :)
09:41 < rxr> moin morfoh and Baldzius 
09:41 < morfoh> moin rxr 
09:41 < morfoh> Error logs from ref-2.2.0-alpha-x86-pentium-mmx-generic:
09:41 < morfoh> [5] graphic/pdftk                       [5] develop/doxygen
09:41 < morfoh> 4475 builds total, 763 completed fine, 2 with errors.
09:42 < CIA-11> rene * r16161 /trunk/package/graphic/exact-image/ (X11R7.patch exact-image.desc): * updated exact-image (0.0.4 -> 0.0.5), removed obsolete hotfix patch
09:42 < morfoh> :)
09:42 < mnemoc> Error logs from azazel-2.2.0-alpha-x86-athlon-xp-azazel:
09:42 < mnemoc> 622 builds total, 494 completed fine, 0 with errors.
09:42 < morfoh> mnemoc: yeah ... I was expecting sth. like that :)
09:43 < rxr> nice revision ,-))
09:43 < morfoh> yeah :D
09:45 < morfoh> mi-4ix.ion
09:45 < morfoh> eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
09:48 < morfoh> publishing passwords in irc isn't the most wise things ... but at least it was just one for a junk mail account :p
09:54 < mnemoc> yeah right :)
09:55 < morfoh> :D
09:57 < morfoh> .oO( morfoh was wondering what his friend Baldzius changed on pound config* and friends )o
09:57 < morfoh> but it was just copyright :)
09:59 < Baldzius> g* , dont scare me like that :)
09:59 < Baldzius> i could get a heart attack
09:59 < Baldzius> :))
09:59 < morfoh> Baldzius: then don't forget to write it in the log message next time *g*
10:00 < morfoh> just for your safety :)
10:00 < Baldzius> i thought it's more like spam ....
10:01 < Baldzius> 'k, next time 'll be more attentive :)
10:01 < morfoh> Baldzius: :))
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10:06 < rxr> http://golem.de/0603/44211.html
10:10 < mnemoc> that's the package you men tion yesterday?
10:11 < mnemoc> i wanted to write about the new pixie, but there is a warning about 1.5 on the .desc
10:11 < mnemoc> and after emerging i couldn't find how to start it :(
10:12 < rxr> I think it is "only" a gui-less "render backend" 
10:12 < rxr> to be used with blender and simillar frontends ...
10:12 < CIA-11> chris * r16162 /trunk/package/security/libprelude/libprelude.desc: * updated libprelude (0.9.7 -> 0.9.7.1)
10:25 < CIA-11> aldas * r16163 /trunk/package/audio/alsa-driver/alsa-driver.desc: * updated alsa-driver (1.0.11rc3 -> 1.0.11rc4)
10:26 < CIA-11> aldas * r16164 /trunk/package/audio/alsa-lib/alsa-lib.desc: * updated alsa-lib (1.0.11rc3 -> 1.0.11rc4)
10:26 < CIA-11> aldas * r16165 /trunk/package/audio/alsa-tools/alsa-tools.desc: * updated alsa-tools (1.0.11rc3 -> 1.0.11rc4)
10:26 < CIA-11> aldas * r16166 /trunk/package/audio/alsa-utils/alsa-utils.desc: * updated alsa-utils (1.0.11rc2 -> 1.0.11rc4)
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10:49 < owl> moin
10:49 < mnemoc> wb owlinette
10:49 < owl> hi mnemoc ;)
10:53 < morfoh> hi owl :p
10:53 < owl> hi morfoh 
10:53 < CIA-11> aldas * r16167 /trunk/package/gnome2/goffice/goffice.desc: * updated goffice (0.2.0 -> 0.2.1)
10:53 < morfoh> mnemoc: owlinette sounds like lemonade :p
10:54 < CIA-11> aldas * r16168 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnumeric/gnumeric.desc: * updated gnumeric (1.6.2 -> 1.6.3)
10:54 < mnemoc> lol
10:54 < owl> cough-drops... 
10:54 < mnemoc> lemonade is nicer :)
10:55 < owl> tsss. i am not drinkable
10:55 < owl> .oO( especially not with wodka in my venes... )
10:55 < mnemoc> eatable?
10:55 < owl> also not :)
10:56 < mnemoc> if you say so
10:56 < owl> :p
11:06 < sparc-kly_> http://www.phun.org/newspics/funny_friday/549.jpg
11:06 < sparc-kly_> http://www.phun.org/newspics/funny_friday/600.jpg
11:06 < sparc-kly_> :)
11:07 < CIA-11> amery * r16169 /trunk/scripts/Download: * added -q (quiet) support for Download script
11:21 < CIA-11> amery * r16170 /trunk/package/powerpc/mac-fdisk/mac-fdisk.desc: * changed mac-fdisk to use match_source_file
11:25 < CIA-11> amery * r16171 /trunk/package/powerpc/powerpc-utils/powerpc-utils.conf: * changed powerpc-utils to use match_source_file -p instead of $archdir
11:31 < CIA-11> amery * r16172 /trunk/package/multimedia/maverik/ (maverik.conf maverik.desc): * changed maverik to use match_source_file instead of hardcoded versions
11:37 < CIA-11> amery * r16173 /trunk/package/multimedia/mplayer/mplayer.conf: * changed mplayer to use match_source_file
11:37 < CIA-11> amery * r16174 /trunk/package/multimedia/deva/deva.conf: * changed deva to use match_source_file
11:45 < CIA-11> amery * r16175 /trunk/package/multimedia/vdr/vdr.conf: * changed vdr to use match_source_file properly
11:47 < CIA-11> amery * r16176 /trunk/package/base/pam/pam.conf: * changed pam to use match_source_file properly
11:49 < CIA-11> amery * r16177 /trunk/package/x11/vnc/vnc.conf: * changed vnc to use match_source_file
11:51 < CIA-11> amery * r16178 /trunk/package/base/rfc/rfc.conf: * changed rfc to use match_source_file properly
11:54 < CIA-11> amery * r16179 /trunk/package/x11/nvidia/ (nvidia.conf postlinux.conf): * changed nvidia to use match_source_file -p
11:55 < CIA-11> amery * r16180 /trunk/package/x11/nvidia-legacy/ (nvidia-legacy.conf postlinux.conf): * changed nvidia-legacy to use match_source_file -p
11:59 < CIA-11> amery * r16181 /trunk/package/x11/glide3/glide3.conf: * changed glide3 to use match_source_file
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12:22 < sepp> moin :)
12:25 < mnemoc> finally
12:26 < mnemoc> sepp: what do you have against pixie 1.5?
12:26 < mnemoc> :)
12:26 < mnemoc> hi, btw
12:26 < sepp> hi mnemoc 
12:26 < sepp> there are faster ways to generate a lot of zeros with a tiff header :D
12:26 < mnemoc> oh
12:27 < mnemoc> there was a release today if you want to try it
12:27 < mnemoc> it builds flawless... but i don't know how to use it :p
12:31 < sepp> i tested 1.5.2 and 1.5.7 and both are totally borked
12:31 < mnemoc> :(
12:32 < mnemoc> $ sudo mine -r pixie
12:32 < sepp> but only at runtime, that why i added this # to the desc
12:32 < mnemoc> yep
12:32 < mnemoc> that's why i didn't commit :p
12:34 < CIA-11> amery * r16182 /trunk/package/base/ncurses/ncurses.conf: * changed ncurses to use match_source_file
12:35 < CIA-11> amery * r16183 /trunk/package/base/libcap/libcap.conf: * changed libcap to use match_source_file
12:36 < CIA-11> amery * r16184 /trunk/package/base/pciutils/pciutils.conf: * changed pciutils to use match_source_file
12:36 < CIA-11> amery * r16185 /trunk/package/base/cron/cron.conf: * changed cron to use match_source_file
12:38 < CIA-11> amery * r16186 /trunk/package/base/sysfiles/sysfiles.conf: * changed sysfiles to use match_source_file
12:38 < CIA-11> amery * r16187 /trunk/package/base/hddtemp/hddtemp.conf: * changed hddtemp to use match_source_file
12:39 < CIA-11> amery * r16188 /trunk/package/base/termcap/termcap.conf: * changed termcap to use match_source_file
12:40 < CIA-11> amery * r16189 /trunk/package/base/groff/groff.conf: * changed groff to use match_source_file
12:40 < CIA-11> amery * r16190 /trunk/package/base/readline/readline.conf: * changed readline to use match_source_file
12:48 < CIA-11> amery * r16191 /trunk/package/develop/mono-xsp/ (mono-xsp.conf mono-xsp.desc): * removed unneeded .conf file for mono-xsp
12:48 < CIA-11> amery * r16192 /trunk/package/dictionary/gjiten/gjiten.conf: * changed gjiten to use match_source_file
12:50 < CIA-11> amery * r16193 /trunk/package/editors/elvis-tiny/elvis-tiny.desc: * changed elvis-tiny to use match_source_file properly
13:06 < morfoh> hi sepp ... how is our man in "nudossi land" ? :)
13:07 < CIA-11> amery * r16194 /trunk/package/fonts/cheapskatefonts/ (cheapskatefonts.conf cheapskatefonts.desc): * cleaned cheapskatefonts and changed to use match_source_file
13:08 < mnemoc> rxr: arch/powerpc/platforms/built-in.o: In function `pmac_calibrate_decr': undefined reference to `pmu_register_sleep_notifier' <-- known?
13:08 < mnemoc> morfoh: o_O
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13:15 < mnemoc> rxr_:  arch/powerpc/platforms/built-in.o: In function `pmac_calibrate_decr': undefined reference to `pmu_register_sleep_notifier' <-- known?
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13:16 < mnemoc> .oO( it's nice to have an screen on a stable line )o
13:17 < rxr_> I think this was the daily reconect, no ?
13:17 < rxr_> anyway this error might be what is on the list as well
13:17 < mnemoc> i thought the thing from the list was fixeds :(
13:17 < mnemoc> fixed*
13:18 < morfoh> hmmm ... is there sth. like a package list for a minimum Xorg install ?
13:19 < mnemoc> morfoh: we need to polish the one at mnemosyne :p
13:19 < mnemoc> morfoh: minimal-xorg doesn't have one?
13:19 < morfoh> mnemoc: guess why I'm asking :)
13:20 < rxr_> morfoh: copy the desktop selection to minimal-xorg
13:20 < morfoh> rxr_: ok ... thanks 
13:20  * morfoh of for dinner
13:21 < CIA-11> amery * r16201 /trunk/package/graphic/magicpoint/magicpoint.conf: * changed magicpoint to use match_source_file
13:22 < CIA-11> amery * r16202 /trunk/package/games/xblasttnt/xblasttnt.conf: * cleaned xblasttnt and changed to use match_source_file
13:22 < mnemoc> .oo( dinner? )o
13:24 < CIA-11> amery * r16203 /trunk/package/network/dbus/dbus.conf: 
13:24 < CIA-11> * changed dbus to only enable python support if pyrexc is available
13:24 < CIA-11>  (python itself is not enough)
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13:30 < CIA-11> amery * r16204 /trunk/package/mips/linux26mips/ (linux26mips.conf linux26mips.desc): * changed linux26mips to use match_source_file
13:30 < CIA-11> amery * r16205 /trunk/package/mail/mailx/mailx.conf: * cleaned mailx and changed to use match_source_file
13:31 < CIA-11> amery * r16206 /trunk/package/mail/vmailmgr/vmailmgr.conf: * changed vmailmgr to use match_source_file
13:43 < CIA-11> amery * r16207 /trunk/package/shells/bash/bash.conf: * changed bash to use match_source_file
13:43 < CIA-11> amery * r16208 /trunk/package/scientific/comedi/comedi.conf: * changed comedi to use match_source_file
13:44  * mnemoc wonders how many bug has he ingjected the last two days
13:44 < CIA-11> amery * r16209 /trunk/package/scientific/emacs-matlab-mode/emacs-matlab-mode.conf: * changed emacs-matlab-mode to use match_source_file
13:45 < CIA-11> amery * r16210 /trunk/package/network/ettercap/ettercap.conf: * changed ettercap to use match_source_file
13:46 < CIA-11> amery * r16211 /trunk/package/shells/kiss/kiss.conf: * changed kiss to use match_source_file
13:46 < CIA-11> amery * r16212 /trunk/package/network/net-tools/net-tools.conf: * cleaned net-tools by using match_source_file
13:47 < rxr_> I wonder why you do convert those right now at all
13:47 < CIA-11> amery * r16213 /trunk/package/security/snort/snort.conf: * changed snort to use match_source_file
13:48 < mnemoc> rxr_: becasue the three buildings i'm running don'T let me do anything more expensive on the machine
13:49 < mnemoc> rxr_: and it's a cleanup before doing auto-download on Build-Target
13:49 < rxr_> you could load noisy additionally ...
13:49 < rxr_> e.g. with your private desktop trunk test
13:50 < mnemoc> it'S about to finish soon
13:51 < CIA-11> amery * r16214 /trunk/package/sparc/sparc-utils/sparc-utils.conf: * changed sparc-utils to use match_source_file
13:58 < CIA-11> aldas * r16215 /trunk/package/graphic/pstoedit/pstoedit.desc: * updated pstoedit (3.42 -> 3.44)
14:02 < mnemoc> rxr_: anyway i'm doing the three builds for one reason, i use the 'private' to know if the things build on trunk, and use a normal embedded to see if the embedded builds on trunk, and finally the modified embedded to improve it
14:06 < CIA-11> amery * r16216 /trunk/package/themes/crystal-icons-gnome/crystal-icons-gnome.conf: * changed crystal-icons-gnome to use match_source_file
14:07 < CIA-11> amery * r16217 /trunk/package/themes/noia-icons-gnome/noia-icons-gnome.conf: * changed noia-icons-gnome to use match_source_file
14:08 < CIA-11> amery * r16218 /trunk/package/themes/noia-icons-kde/noia-icons-kde.conf: * changed noia-icons-kde to use match_source_file
14:09 < CIA-11> amery * r16219 /trunk/package/textproc/tetex/tetex.conf: * changed tetex to use match_source_file
14:09 < CIA-11> amery * r16220 /trunk/package/textproc/tex4ht/tex4ht.conf: * changed tex4ht to use match_source_file
14:30 < mnemoc> so, there are no more references to $archdir in package/
14:31 < mnemoc> a 'feature' i want to remove while implementing auto-download
14:35 < CIA-11> aldas * r16221 /trunk/package/multimedia/linphone/ (html-build.patch linphone.conf linphone.desc): 
14:35 < CIA-11> * updated linphone (1.3.1 -> 1.3.2)
14:35 < CIA-11> * copyright update
14:38 < mnemoc> rxr_: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/Vy1Un496.html, and it's building.... is it ok?
14:46 < mnemoc> .oO
14:48 < rxr_> nope
14:48 < rxr_> just add the missing config to the arch/powerpc/kernel*conf*
14:48 < mnemoc> ok
14:50 < mnemoc> uhm, it is there
14:51  * mnemoc wonders why is it getting disabled on the final .config
14:53 < rxr_> marked broken or so ?
14:54 < mnemoc> nope
14:56 < CIA-11> amery * r16222 /trunk/scripts/parse-config: * forcing HOME=/root to solve flist/base issues when built using sudo
14:56 < CIA-11> aldas * r16223 /trunk/package/graphic/poppler/poppler.desc: 
14:56 < CIA-11> * updated poppler (0.4.4 -> 0.4.5)
14:56 < CIA-11> * security update: CVE-2006-0301
15:01 < rxr_> mnemoc: some other dep missing ?
15:03 < mnemoc> # cat ./include/config/adb/pmu.h
15:03 < mnemoc> #undef CONFIG_ADB_PMU
15:03 < mnemoc> .oO
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15:20 < mnemoc> rxr: i fear the problem is that ADB_PMU doesn't exist on *any* Kconfig file
15:20 < mnemoc> sorry, found
15:21 < mnemoc> depends on PPC_PMAC
15:21 < mnemoc> which is enabled
15:22 < mnemoc> ./drivers/macintosh/Kconfig:68:config ADB_PMU
15:23 < mnemoc> i'll try adding CONFIG_PPC_PMAC=y explicitly in kernel.conf.m4
15:32 < mnemoc> i don'T understand what happen
15:36 < CIA-11> rene * r16224 /trunk/package/base/minised/minised.desc: * updated minised (1.7 -> 1.8)
15:38 < CIA-11> rene * r16225 /trunk/package/xorg/xorg-server/xorg-server.desc: * added some brief I/T lines to the xorg-server
15:39 < rxr> now, that was a sed debugging after lunch time ...
15:40 < mnemoc> :)
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15:40 < mnemoc> \l solved?
15:40 < rxr> \n, yes
15:40 < mnemoc> .oO( is this an 'n'? )o
15:41 < rxr> was already halfly implemented, but halfy defect and the other half disabled by me for 1.7 due to the obscure code causing other bugs ... ,-)
15:41 < rxr> now all is fixed
15:41 < rxr> you wrote \l ...
15:41 < rxr> I mean back ref in left-hand regular expressions ...
15:41 < rxr> \{1..n}
15:41 < mnemoc> i wondered about what is written here in the paper :)
15:41 < rxr> but other stuff was fixed on the way
15:42 < rxr> \1
15:42 < rxr> backref as on the right side normally used
15:42 < rxr> they appear to be allowed on the left side as well
15:43 < rxr> quite handy actually, once you know this is allow ,-)
15:44 < mnemoc> finally i understand what you wrote here :)
15:44 < rxr> heh
15:45 < mnemoc> .oO( who can write a 1 as an l? )o
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15:46 < rxr> ?
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16:06 < CIA-11> rene * r16226 /trunk/scripts/Config: 
16:06 < CIA-11> * perfectionized the Config diagnostic to:
16:06 < CIA-11>  "Backing up existing config/$config/*"
16:07 < mnemoc> rxr: can you add the diffs to the mails?
16:07 < rxr> yes, I can
16:07 < rxr> but not the next days
16:08 < mnemoc> ok :)
16:10 < CIA-11> amery * r16227 /trunk/scripts/Download: * added missing space on echo_warn at Download script
16:17 < morfoh> re
16:18 < morfoh> rxr: X xorg/* <-- this is from "minimal X" template :)
16:21 < mnemoc> morfoh: i guess that's why he asked you to port the pkgsel from desktop target to minimal-xorg
16:21 < mnemoc> :)
16:21 < morfoh> mnemoc: oh! them I misunderstood ... sorry :)
16:22  * morfoh is crawling through xorg wiki then :)
16:22 < mnemoc> i forgive you
16:23 < morfoh> mnemoc: thanks master mnemoc ... you're so kind :)
16:23 < mnemoc> but just this time
16:24 < morfoh> oh oh! :|
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16:48 < CIA-11> amery * r16228 /trunk/scripts/Download: * cleaned a bit the argument parsing loop on Download
16:54 < rxr> morfoh: x.org wiki ?
16:54 < rxr> morfoh: hell now
16:54 < rxr> morfoh: just port the sed xorg selection from the desktop target
16:54 < rxr> it already is minimal
16:54 < rxr> but I can do leter
16:55 < mnemoc> you have some articles to write :)
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16:56 < mnemoc> wb Baldzius_ 
16:56 < Baldzius_> thanks mnemoc :)
16:56 < Baldzius_> f* isp
16:57 < morfoh> hi Baldzius_ :)
16:57 < Baldzius_> hi morfoh :)
17:01 < mnemoc> sparc-kly__: do you still have that sparc available?
17:02 < morfoh> mnemoc: seems that sparc-kly__ is just talking if "los alemanos" are sleeping :p
17:03 < mnemoc> :(
17:04 < morfoh> sparc-kly__ and keinek are really nasty boys :p
17:05 < mnemoc> .oO
17:05 < mnemoc> *yaaaaaawn*
17:05 < morfoh> mnemoc: tired ?
17:06 < mnemoc> yep
17:06 < morfoh> mnemoc: go out for some minutes 
17:06 < mnemoc> uhm
17:06 < sparc-kly__> mnemoc : yes :)
17:07 < morfoh> haha ... there is one nasty boy :)
17:07 < morfoh> hi sparc-kly__ 
17:07 < sparc-kly__> morfoh?
17:07 < mnemoc> sparc-kly__: yes, you are very nasty, or yes the box is available?
17:07 < morfoh> :D
17:07 < sparc-kly__> the box is avaiable
17:07 < sparc-kly__> available
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17:08 < mnemoc> sparc-kly__: do you still have my public key?
17:08 < morfoh> sparc-kly__: nobody will "misuse" #t2 ... without punishment :)
17:08 < mnemoc> oh
17:09 < sparc-kly__> mnemoc: ermm i put new HD . 
17:09 < sparc-kly__> so. i lost your pulbic key and all of data
17:09 < mnemoc> no problem
17:10 < morfoh> mnemoc: at least fo your key :p
17:10 < mnemoc> i queried you my key
17:10 < mnemoc> morfoh: it's his bandwidth not mine :)
17:11 < sparc-kly__> Gentoo Live Cd 2006.0 ?
17:11 < mnemoc> whatever you like
17:11 < mnemoc> T2 has 4 wheels drive
17:13 < sparc-kly__> morfo: I am Hitler and never to receive punishment of anybody 
17:14 < sparc-kly__> mnemoc: give me 24hr. im very busy today . 
17:15 < morfoh> sparc-kly__: I can't see the connection, but good that you forced yourself to die long time ago
17:15 < mnemoc> lier, your ex-girlfriend use to punish you even in public
17:15 < mnemoc> sparc-kly__: no problem
17:16 < mnemoc> oops, i forgot she is no longer your ex-gf :p
17:16 < sparc-kly__> :)
17:17 < morfoh> sparc-kly__: but don't forget, your "master" in the White House seems to be the reincarnation of Hitler
17:17 < sparc-kly__> lol
17:18 < sparc-kly__> mnemoc : what you prefer? fresh install of gentoo 2006.0 or only Livecd access?
17:18 < mnemoc> livecd is ok, i guess
17:20 < CIA-11> amery * r16229 /trunk/package/base/uclibc/patches/binutils-100-uclibc-conf.patch: * adapted uclibc/binutils patch for 2.16.91.0.7
17:24 < rxr> Error logs from 32-2.2.0-alpha-powerpc-powerpc-970-desktop:
17:24 < rxr> 929 builds total, 27 completed fine, 0 with errors.
17:25 < mnemoc> just 929? :)
17:25 < morfoh> :)
17:26 < mnemoc> rxr: did you find the cause of the ADB_PMU thing?
17:28 < rxr> I'll when the build reaches 1-linux26 ...
17:28 < mnemoc> i thought there were less than 27 packages before 1-linux26 :p
17:29 < rxr> 1-linux26 building right now
17:29 < rxr> I'll debug soon
17:29 < mnemoc> thanks
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17:55 < mnemoc> .oO( why my dietlibc/libm doesn't have ceil or atan2??! )o
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18:00 < madtux> hi
18:00 < mnemoc> wb madtux 
18:01 < madtux> ty mnemoc 
18:02 < rxr> mnemoc: where do you encounter that ?
18:02 < rxr> diet libm is not that complete
18:03 < mnemoc> rxr: gawk
18:04 < mnemoc> morfoh: http://openser.org/about.php
18:05 < CIA-11> rene * r16230 /trunk/architecture/powerpc/kernel.conf.m4: 
18:05 < CIA-11> * added CONFIG_CLASSIC32 to the powerpc/kernel.conf.m4, yet another
18:05 < CIA-11>  new kernel config name, so the mac features we enable are not
18:05 < CIA-11>  disabled on .config load time
18:05 < rxr> mnemoc: what, a new build failure ?
18:05 < mnemoc> rxr: 1-gawk on diet/embedded
18:06 < rxr> guess they are new in gawk
18:06 < rxr> I added stups for sin and cos or so already ...
18:06 < mnemoc> i think so, it use to build :)
18:10 < CIA-11> amery * r16231 /trunk/package/security/john/john.desc: * updated john (1.7.0.1 -> 1.7.0.2)
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18:12 < CIA-11> rene * r16232 /trunk/package/base/linux24/linux-conf.in: 
18:12 < CIA-11> * readded .config.1 backup to linux-conf.in, must got lost during
18:12 < CIA-11>  one of the latest cleanups and converted all backup creation to
18:12 < CIA-11>  use a less error prone and shorter {,.n} syntax
18:12 < mnemoc> .oO( where bin/pkgconfig went?! )o
18:13 < rxr> mnemoc: r16230 should fix linux26 for powepc
18:14 < mnemoc> thnaks
18:18 < mnemoc> dah
18:18 < mnemoc> now the uclibc based failed :(
18:19 < mnemoc> rxr: fyi: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/uowPY757.html <--- 1-uclibc
18:19 < rxr> ouhm
18:19 < rxr> I take a look later
18:20 < rxr> ah - that might happen on arm dietlibc likewise
18:20 < rxr> and is due to some changed whatever handling in dietlibc
18:29 < LMJ> Moin moin
18:29 < Stelz> moin, LMJ
18:31 < LMJ> since i have a new work and they are a lot of powerful computers with several CPU architectures,   is T2 need some test on special 32 or 64 bits  x86 or others CPU ?
18:43 < mnemoc> LMJ: remote access is welcome :)
18:44 < LMJ> you need some 4-CPU Dual core CPU power ?
18:44 < mnemoc> of course ,-)
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18:47 < valentin> re
18:47 < madtux> http://unix.rulez.org/~calver/pictures/curves.jpg
18:48 < owl> hi madtux ! *hug*
18:49 < mnemoc> .oO( why does he receive a hug and i don'T?? )o
18:50 < madtux> because you are in berlin and she's bavarian..
18:51 < madtux> rehug owlita
18:51 < mnemoc> :(
18:51 < madtux> mnemoc, move to the woods and u will get a hug from her
18:52 < owl> hehehehehehe, poor mnemoc *hug*
18:52 < madtux> *grin*
18:57 < mnemoc> a hug of mercy? .oO
18:58 < owl> yeah, better than nothing... :)
18:58 < mnemoc> :)
18:58  * mnemoc hugs owl back
18:58 < owl> thx 
18:58 < mnemoc> :)
19:07 < CIA-11> amery * r16233 /trunk/package/network/openser/ (7 files): * added openser (1.0.1) - a fork of SIP Express Router
19:32 < rxr> -       echo "${term_color_warning}*>${term_color_normal} $*"
19:32 < rxr> +       echo "${term_color_warning}!>${term_color_normal} $*"
19:40 < CIA-11> amery * r16234 /trunk/package/base/uclibc/patches/gcc-100-uclibc-conf.patch: * adjusted uclibc/gcc patch for gcc 4.1.0
19:41 < CIA-11> amery * r16235 /trunk/package/base/uclibc/uclibc.conf: * enhanced uclibc to handle ppc architectures
19:41 < mnemoc> rxr: ?
19:41 < mnemoc> like the errores?
19:41 < mnemoc> errors?
19:52 < rxr> yes, just other collor
19:52 < rxr> color
19:57 < mnemoc> any particular reason for that?
19:58 < mnemoc> or just for the fun of it?
19:58 < rxr> the asterik does look strange
19:58 < rxr> more unifor look
19:58 < rxr> uniform
19:59 < mnemoc> ok :)
20:08 < jsaw> *g*
20:08 < jsaw> re
20:08 < jsaw> :)
20:08 < mnemoc> hi jsaw :)
20:08 < jsaw> testing libsigsegv... and wondering why stack handling is not supported
20:09 < mnemoc> Re-running configuration:
20:09 < mnemoc> -> Backing up existing config/azazel/config config/azazel/confopt config/azazel/packages ...
20:09 < jsaw> the "check for working sigaltstack" fails with -O2, but succeeds without...
20:09 < jsaw> (gcc 4.0.2)
20:10 < mnemoc> ^----- rxr: isn'T a bit large now?
20:10 < mnemoc> jsaw: o_O
20:15 < jsaw> har har
20:16 < jsaw> gcc seems to optimize sth. stack related... the check should overflow the stack, but simply doesn't with -O2...
20:16 < jsaw> -int recurse (int n)
20:17 < jsaw> +int recurse (volatile int n)
20:17 < jsaw> that works...
20:18 < rxr> jsaw: the shell was not intended to expand the output print
20:19 < rxr> it does not do here
20:19 < rxr> Backing up existing config/32/* ...
20:19 < mnemoc> .oO
20:19 < jsaw> rxr: ?
20:19 < mnemoc> $ bash --version
20:19 < mnemoc> GNU bash, version 3.00.16(1)-release (i386-t2-linux-gnu)
20:19 < mnemoc> jsaw: he is talking to me :)
20:19 < jsaw> ic 
20:21 < rxr> # bash --version
20:21 < rxr> GNU bash, version 3.1.0(2)-release (powerpc64-t2-linux-gnu)
20:21 < rxr> ah yes, you
20:21 < mnemoc> yes, me :)
20:22 < mnemoc> rxr: do we really want to abort if some file from [D] is missing? or just echo_warning ?
20:22 < rxr> hm
20:23 < mnemoc> some packages include [D]s for many different archs
20:23 < rxr> that will later be changed anyway
20:23 < mnemoc> Build-Target vs. Build-Pkg
20:24 < mnemoc> Build-Pkg should not download imo
20:24 < mnemoc> Build-Target, yes
20:24 < _Ragnar_> it should have a flag
20:24 < mnemoc> a flag??
20:24 < mnemoc> we will become gentoo :)
20:24 < _Ragnar_> Build-Pkg -download-required <pkg>
20:25 < _Ragnar_> *lol*
20:25 < mnemoc> i was thinking in the oposite
20:25 < _Ragnar_> it's a minor hassle tho
20:25 < mnemoc> Build-Target -nodownload
20:25 < mnemoc> but leaving Build-Pkg as an internal tool, without extra magic
20:25 < _Ragnar_> no for Build-Target I don't think in-between dls make sense
20:26 < mnemoc> rxr doesn't like to make Download
20:26 < mnemoc> Build-Pkg -download-required foo   <==> Emerge-Pkg -deps=none foo
20:27 < mnemoc> do we want to duplicate functionality?
20:28 < _Ragnar_> I thought emerge does lots of other stuff?
20:28  * _Ragnar_ remembers some ppl here actually discouraging its use
20:28  * mnemoc doesn't like the idea of adding extra functionality to Build-Pkg
20:28 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: -deps=none always here
20:29  * _Ragnar_ thinks the deps problem should be fixed but anyway ... yea if Emerge-Pkg works fine then there's no need for changing Build-Pkg
20:30 < mnemoc> rxr: ?
20:30 < mnemoc> jsaw: ?
20:33 < jsaw> temporarily setting default behaviour to -deps=none maybe?
20:34 < mnemoc> yue are leaving my topic :(
20:34 < jsaw> (sorry, I was hacking busily and did not follow all)
20:35 < mnemoc> downloads during Build-Target
20:35 < jsaw> oh, eh,
20:35 < mnemoc> done by Build-Target or Build-Pkg
20:35 < mnemoc> and, should Build-Pkg abort if a [D] is missing?
20:36 < jsaw> I would rather prefer Config to ask to download than having it downloaded in Build-*
20:36 < mnemoc> and the second?
20:36 < mnemoc> currently it aborts when populating the $archdir
20:37 < jsaw> hmmm.
20:37 < mnemoc> and i don't like that :p
20:38 < rxr> Download in Build-Target
20:38 < mnemoc> in fact i want to deprecate $archdir :p
20:39 < jsaw> well, adding two lines in populate_archdir would solve this.
20:39 < rxr> most probably with a -sleep-if-missing flag so Emerge and Target do not need the try to sleep until sources code itself ...
20:39 < mnemoc> jsaw: i want to remove lines from populate_archdir, not add :p
20:40 < jsaw> with add I mean: ./scripts/Download $pkg && populate_archdir
20:41 < jsaw> (+ some recursive check)
20:42 < mnemoc> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/81x2mC64.html <--- changes to populate_archdir
20:42 < mnemoc> and on Build-Target, if $nodownload != 1, Download for this package and the active extenders
20:44 < mnemoc> jsaw: so you want to download _on_ Build-Pkg ?
20:46 < jsaw> honestly, ENOCARE... I don't know how much work it is on Build-Target, but it's definitely a trivial change inside the populate_archdir function
20:46 < mnemoc> the Download itslef is mostly trivial on both parts
20:47 < mnemoc> the problem (on both places) is handling concurrency with Download
20:48 < mnemoc> jsaw: and the other part, do you think Build-Pkg should abort inmediatly (as now) if any [D] is missing?
20:49 < morfoh> so dinner is in the oven ... I'll go jogging now ... bbl :)
20:49 < mnemoc> cu morfoh 
20:49 < morfoh> cu mnemoc 
20:49 < morfoh> hi jsaw :)
20:54 < jsaw> hi morfoh 
20:54 < jsaw> mnemoc: hmm.
20:54 < jsaw> why not?
20:55 < mnemoc> some packages include [D]s for different architectures
20:55 < mnemoc> binary packages
20:55 < jsaw> and?
20:55 < mnemoc> and it anoying to download them manually, even worse to download *every* Fscking architecture
20:56 < jsaw> honestly, ENOCARE: my proposal to add a flag for architecture to [D] still stands
20:56 < CIA-11> amery * r16236 /trunk/scripts/functions.in: 
20:56 < CIA-11> * changed populate_archdir to use match_source_file and echo_warning
20:56 < CIA-11>  (keeping current behavior)
20:56 < mnemoc> i'm waiting for foo-% :)
20:57 < jsaw> hehe
20:58 < rxr> !> Corrected ./ltmain.sh
20:59 < mnemoc> :)
20:59 < rxr> jsaw: do I get your blessing to substitute the asterik with an exclamation mark?
21:00 < rxr> so warning look and errors are mostly the same, and underlined by the color? yellow vs. red ?
21:00 < jsaw> hmm. what about non-colored output?
21:00 < jsaw> that was the original idea to take a different char
21:00 < jsaw> the case when you have no color...
21:01 < jsaw> but if you prefer it, go for it ;)
21:02 < rxr> then the exlamation mark gets peoples attention ,-)
21:02 < rxr> -rwx------  1 rene users 17280 Mar 23 22:03 minised
21:02 < rxr> -rwx------  1 rene users 17929 Mar 23 22:03 minised
21:02 < rxr> microoptmization ,-) should also be some cycles faster ,-))
21:03 < rxr> above numbers glibc dynamic btw ....
21:04 < rxr> ^- and x86-64, i386 with the same compiler is:
21:04 < rxr> -rwx------  1 rene users 14700 Mar 23 22:07 minised
21:05 < rxr> heh: gcc list:
21:05 < rxr> Hello, my name is Laura and I need to know where I could find or download the
21:05 < rxr> oldest version of de "C" compiler. I look forward to hearing from you.
21:06 < mnemoc> a joke?
21:07 < rxr> doub
21:07 < rxr> t
21:18 < rxr> hm - too bad some stuff still wants gtk+12
21:18  * rxr trying a trunk desktop without that cruft ;-(
21:20 < mnemoc> 5why the heck Config expands: echo "Backing up existing config/$config/\* ..."   ??!
21:20 < rxr> I wonder
21:20 < rxr> too
21:20 < jsaw> eval echo
21:20 < mnemoc> nope, plain echo
21:21 < mnemoc> i even escaped the *
21:21 < mnemoc> next try: echo 'Backing up existing config/'$config'/* ...'
21:21 < jsaw> not here
21:22 < mnemoc> bash 3.0 does
21:22 < mnemoc> Re-running configuration:
21:22 < mnemoc> -> Backing up existing config/azazel/config config/azazel/confopt config/azazel/packages ...
21:22 < mnemoc> -> T2 2.2.0-alpha configuration ...
21:22 < jsaw> oh 3.0...
21:22 < mnemoc> -> New config written to config/azazel/*.
21:22 < mnemoc> yes, there is world beside the bleeding edge
21:23 < jsaw> no, 3.0 is buggy...
21:23 < mnemoc> 3.0 is was 2.1 has
21:23 < jsaw> hmm... bash
21:23 < jsaw> 3.1 doesn't need the \
21:23 < mnemoc> our most important package
21:24 < jsaw> zsh does neither
21:24 < mnemoc> echo "config/azazel/*"
21:24 < mnemoc> config/azazel/*
21:24 < mnemoc> i don'T understnad
21:24 < jsaw> O.O
21:25 < mnemoc> $ config=azazel; echo "config/$config/*"
21:25 < mnemoc> config/azazel/*
21:25 < mnemoc> neither
21:25 < jsaw> then everything is okay...?
21:25 < mnemoc> no
21:26 < mnemoc> Config still expanding it
21:29 < jsaw> mnemoc: where does the "->" come from?
21:30 < jsaw> part of the output? or added by you?
21:30 < mnemoc> uhm
21:31 < mnemoc> good question
21:31 < jsaw> seems not to be "vanilla" echo...
21:32 < mnemoc> Config is been catched by Build-Tools i guess
21:32 < jsaw> ah, then it's the "re-echo"...
21:32 < jsaw> that expands *
21:33 < mnemoc> bingo
21:34 < jsaw> use "{...}" instead of *...
21:34 < mnemoc> scripts/Build-Tools-77-                 while read line ; do
21:34 < mnemoc> scripts/Build-Tools-78-                         echo_status $line
21:34 < mnemoc> scripts/Build-Tools:79:                 done < <( ./scripts/Config -cfg $config -oldconfig )
21:34 < mnemoc> $line is not quoted
21:34 < jsaw> ic
21:34 < mnemoc> and read not raw
21:35 < mnemoc> let see if...
21:35 < mnemoc> -                       while read line ; do
21:35 < mnemoc> -                               echo_status $line
21:35 < mnemoc> +                       while read -r line ; do
21:35 < mnemoc> +                               echo_status "$line" done < <( ./scripts/Config -cfg $config -oldconfig )
21:40 < mnemoc> thanks a lot Dr. J
21:40 < CIA-11> amery * r16237 /trunk/scripts/Build-Tools: * fixed Build-Tools to preserve Config output intact when passed to echo_status
21:46 < jsaw> mnemoc: welcome :)
21:49 < CIA-11> amery * r16238 /trunk/scripts/Build-Target: 
21:49 < CIA-11> * enhanced Build-Target to Download $pkg because starting it's build, this
21:49 < CIA-11>  feature can be desabled using -nodownload
21:49 < CIA-11>  (without extra concurrency control)
21:50 < mnemoc> rxr: ---^
21:52 < mnemoc> rxr: i think the concurrencty control should be handled by Download itself after an special -wait-if-locked (or something like that) argument
22:00 < mnemoc> ok, time to sleep
22:00 < mnemoc> cu
22:06 < jsaw> gn8 mnemoc 
22:07 < owl> gn8 mnemoc 
22:11  * morfoh is "dead" after jogging 
22:18 < owl> wb morfoh 
22:23 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p83.129.173.98.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit ["Lost terminal"]
22:30 < owl> gn8
23:10 < jsaw> gn8 owl
23:12 < CIA-11> jsaw * r16239 /trunk/package/base/sam/jsaw/ (sam.lua sam_dummy.lua): 
23:12 < CIA-11> * add CLI (or stdout/in based IPC) to SAM (in jsaw dir)
23:12 < CIA-11> * some more source code documentation
23:12 < CIA-11> * add CLI example to the dummy module
23:26 < morfoh> oh! damn ... I feel every bone of my body :]
23:50 < morfoh> oh oh! my current desktop build aborted on 2-binutils :/
23:51 -!- keinek [n=keinek@200-70-145-107.mrse.com.ar] has joined #t2
23:51 < keinek> hi
23:54 < morfoh> hi el argentino :p
23:55 < jsaw> hi keinek 
23:56 < jsaw> keinek: compilation is ready, but it's not tested... any space I can upload?
23:57 < morfoh> hi 64bitjsaw :)
23:57 < keinek> i was download this http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/mirror/t2/unstable/2.2.0-epsilon/t2-minimal-2.2.0-epsilon-x86-64_cd1.iso
23:57 < keinek> is the same?
23:58 < keinek> i was download 100 megas.
23:58 < keinek> with dial up.
23:58 < keinek> think about that :P
23:58 < jsaw> keinek: not the same, but should work
23:58 < jsaw> morfoh: :p
23:59 < keinek> is a paintfull
23:59 < keinek> painfull
23:59 < jsaw> keinek: yeah, I understand...
23:59 < keinek> i like a kick in my balls
23:59 < morfoh> :)
23:59 < morfoh> keinek: what ?
23:59 < morfoh> keinek: what balls ? :p
23:59 < keinek> download 190 megas with dial up.
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