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01:04 < keinek> hi
01:04 < Demian> hi keinek 
01:18 < Demian> bye
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08:00 -!- Topic for #t2:  T2 | 2.1.1.1 and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/
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08:19 < valentin> moin
08:26 < rxr_> 919 builds total, 850 completed fine, 69 with errors.
08:26 < rxr_> moin
08:26 -!- You're now known as rxr
08:27 < valentin> moin rxr
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08:41 < Baldzius> moin valentin rxr
08:41 < idealm> rxr, valentin: I've not been here for months. The project seems making more progress. I'll keep looking into your project.
08:42 < Baldzius> moin idealm
08:42 < idealm> hi Baldzius
08:43 < idealm> Baldzius: are you a developer of t2?
08:43 < Baldzius> not sure :)
08:43 < Baldzius> why asking? :)
08:44 < idealm> You nickname seems new for me. So confirmed that :)
08:46 < Baldzius> last 2 weeks i was away but i am here more than 1/2y
08:46 < idealm> Baldzius: anyway, nice to meet you.
08:47 < Baldzius> me 2 :)
08:54 < rxr> idealm: hi
08:54 < idealm> hi rxr.
08:55 < rxr> idealm: you are the one from china IIRC ?
08:56 < idealm> rxr: yeah, I'm from China.
08:57  * rxr would like to see t2 spread there ,-)
08:57 < valentin> hi idealm 
08:57 < rxr> what would you like to use t2 for 
08:58 < idealm> hi valentin
08:59 < idealm> rxr: as we talked before, it's with a good architecture.
09:02 < idealm> rxr: But I have been wondering for whom is the distribution for? User(don't know about programming) or developer?
09:05 < valentin> idealm: a developer may create a specific target, build it and distribute it to endusers
09:06 < valentin> or an enduser could take desktop / livecd target and have a very nice linux distro
09:06 < idealm> valentin: yeah, I prefer it's for developer.
09:08 < idealm> Excuse me, what do you do for living?
09:11 < valentin> avoid tobacco smoke ;)
09:11 < valentin> for example consult companies for develpment of commercial targets,
09:11 < valentin> driver development,
09:11 < valentin> etc etc
09:12 < idealm> thanks. That's great.
09:12 < idealm> consulting about t2?
09:12 < valentin> some of us however work in other professions like science and just contribute to t2 because its a great sde
09:13 < valentin> idealm: for example
09:13 < idealm> yeah, that's what i was thinking of.
09:14 < idealm> If it's for developer, may be the form 't2 + technical services'.
09:17 < idealm> for user, t2 has to be a stable and user friendly distribution. Or fall into q-and-a trap.
09:18 < idealm> It's just my personal opinion :)
09:19 < idealm> I thought you might wanted to know about it from me.
09:20 < valentin> we have some very user friendly targets
09:21 < valentin> e.g. a superior live cd
09:21 < valentin> bbl
09:21 < idealm> yeah, I didn't want to against it. Instead, I love the dist, especially its arch :D
09:25 < idealm> For example, Debian is a good dist, and some other dists based on it are for specific targets, Knoppix (Live CD), Mepis (User Friendly). But Debian has been being the base of them. I prefer T2 do like Debian.
09:35 < rxr> debian is a very sucking distribution
09:35 < rxr> outdated and badly done
09:36 < idealm> rxr: t2 might be better than the others.
09:37  * idealm love T2.
09:39  * rxr too
09:40 < idealm> rxr: I just want to figure out what the T2 target is/are :)
09:40 < rxr> t2 is a development environment 
09:41 < rxr> the outcome can very well be user fiendly system or embedded device, such as a video recorder, cell phone, ...
09:42 < rxr> http://www.archivista.ch/index.pl/archivistabox3
09:42 < rxr> ^- this document archiving solution (in a box) is T2 based
09:42 < rxr> end deployed worldwide
09:42 < idealm> So great. It lives with flexible arch.
09:43 < rxr> http://www.archivista.ch/index.pl/boxsystems2-d2
09:44 < rxr> http://www.archivista.ch/index.pl/plugplay-d
09:47 < idealm> All are in Deutsch. I couldn't read it. :) Anyway, thanks.
09:47 < rxr> I know - bavbelfish or google are your friends ,-)
09:47 < rxr> or just watch the screenshots and photo ,-))
09:48 < idealm> Okay. got it :)
09:53 < rxr> idealm: do you work in the sofware or hardware industriy in chine a
09:55 < idealm> rxr: yeah, mainly software, and hope to drop into hardware .
09:56 < rxr> in some bigger company or freelancer ?
09:56 < valentin> rxr: http://www.archivista.ch/index.pl/archivistabox3 <- the menu links on that side are broken
09:57 < valentin> there is a '/' missing
09:57 < idealm> rxr: I work in a US company.
09:58 < rxr> idealm: ic
09:59  * valentin kicks kpdf 3.4
09:59 < rxr> valentin: emerge 3.5 ,-))
09:59 < valentin> every 3rd pdf causes konqueror to freeze
09:59 < valentin> rxr: yeah, should do that asap
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11:03 < mnemoc> moin!
11:03 < rxr> moin mnemoc !
11:03 < mnemoc> hi rxr
11:09 < mnemoc> brb
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12:05 < rxr> wb mnemoc 
12:05 < mnemoc> athnks rxr :)
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12:06 < misl> hi folks :)
12:06 < rxr> hi misl!
12:06 < misl> hi rxr, how are thing going?
12:06 < mnemoc> wb misl 
12:06 < misl> hi master mnemoc :)
12:06 < rxr> fine, thanks
12:07 < rxr> oh - wait, no
12:07 < rxr> too much osx yesterday
12:07 < rxr> but aside from that fine ,-))
12:07 < misl> rxr: that is not contagious I hope ;-)
12:08  * mnemoc fear to get contagied
12:10 < misl> mnemoc: there is an antidote :)
12:10 < misl> but it is even worse
12:10 < misl> it is called Windows :D
12:11 < mnemoc> antidote?? or a worse desease?
12:11 < misl> I said it was worse :)
12:25 < rxr> mnemoc: what do you fear ?
12:25 < mnemoc> OSX
12:26 < rxr> huh?
12:27 < mnemoc> it is contagious :)
12:28 < rxr> as in term to be so pretty ?
12:28 < rxr> nah - it even has a borken select() ...
12:28 < mnemoc> doh
12:28 < rxr> mnemoc: you'll get stuff todo that yields money ... - this osx driver is a big red number in my bilance ...
12:28 < mnemoc> the need to use that sucking OS can be contagius once there
12:29 < mnemoc> oh
12:29 < rxr> balance
12:29 < mnemoc> good for me, bad for you
12:29 < rxr> yeah ...
12:29 < rxr> I'll type on the pretty boxes - you on the gray pie seas ,-))
12:30 < rxr> wait - there are those gray/pink sun's and blue/green sgi's ... ,-))
12:32 < mnemoc> :D
12:38 < rxr> so - driver core rewritten to allow more inteligent duplex scan deinterlacing ...
12:38 < valentin> rxr: a full checkout of t2 trunk takes a while on this geode box...
12:38 < rxr> and thus duplex scans profit from my big buffer read improvement as well
12:38 < rxr> valentin: yep - but a full t2-trunk checkout takes some time these days due to it's sheer size and lots of files
12:38 < rxr> also your box might have ext3
12:38 < rxr> the archivsta boxes install on ext3 by default
12:39 < rxr> I only had one custom tweak box that used reiser3 ...
12:39 < rxr> no idea if you have that one
12:39 < rxr> if it is ext3 it will be extra slow on t2-trunk file layout
12:39 < valentin> rxr: there is a partition left on that box - maybe i should build and install my own system there ?
12:39 < CIA-18> rene * r15663 /trunk/package/editors/xemacs-beta/xemacs-beta.desc: * updated xemacs-beta (21.5.24 -> 21.5.25)
12:40 < valentin> i could use the old 1Ghz machine of my sister to build that
12:42 < rxr> valentin: don't screw it up ..
12:42 < rxr> valentin: the archista layout is a following:
12:42 < rxr> part1: system
12:42 < rxr> part2: system2 (for alternating installs on update)
12:42 < rxr> part3: swap
12:43 < rxr> part4: database and associated data files (/home/data)
12:43 < rxr> but feel free to mess it up as you lile
12:43 < rxr> like
12:44 < valentin> rxr: i know, but the grub has another entry called 'rene's developer partition' whatever that points too...
12:46 < valentin> i'm depressed to find this little box has a lot more ram than my working machine...
12:47 < rxr> hm? the box has 512 ...,-))
12:47 < rxr> your iBook has ?
12:47 < valentin> my old iBook has 256
12:47 < rxr> hm
12:47 < rxr> I fear in two slots ?
12:47 < CIA-18> sebastian * r15664 /trunk/package/multimedia/fftw3/fftw3.conf: * disable fortran if there is no f77
12:47 < rxr> I might have some 128MB or so so-dimm around otherwise ...
12:47 < valentin> guess why i call Osux unusable and why acrobat 7 almost freezes my system
12:48 < valentin> rxr: i think yes, apple ppl are too smart
12:48 < rxr> hm
12:48 < rxr> I do not recall what so-dimm generation fits into the iBook
12:48 < valentin> what is the highest processor spec i can choose for that geode ?
12:48 < rxr> but I think the 256MB DDR SO-DIMM of my hammer subnotebook does not fit either ...
12:49 < valentin> maybe i should use that geode as main computer and delegate the book as a babyphone ? ;-)
12:50 < valentin> well, still have that athlon standing around, but both ibook and geode beat the noiselevel by means
12:54 < rxr> yure - the geode is fan-less ,-))
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12:58 < rxr> sure even
12:58 < valentin> what is the best processor compatible with geode ?
12:58 < rxr> the LX has all i686 IIRC, including CMOV
12:58 < rxr> all former Geodes have no CMOV
12:58 < rxr> valentin: + 3dnow and friends - but no sse IIRC
12:59 < rxr> cat /proc/cpuinfo ...
12:59 < rxr> we optimize archivista for i686 and above, that is including CMOV ...
13:18 < rxr> http://www.short-media.com/review.php?r=301
13:18 < rxr> ^- need a tower in your backyard ?
13:18 < rxr> some years ago we would nearly have done the same in the tiny village near hannover, valentin no?
13:21 < valentin> yes, but in germany one gets troble when doing so...
13:21 < valentin> btw: that site is slow
13:24 < rxr> valentin: it is http://slashdot.org 'ed 
13:37 < valentin> slashdot, the DOS utility no 1
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13:46 < morfoh> hi
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13:50 < misl> :)
13:52 < morfoh> moped men :)
13:54 < misl> hi morfoh my friend :)
13:54 < morfoh> hi misl ... :)
13:55 < morfoh> misl: how are you ?
14:13 < misl> Morfoh: I am fine thank you. How about you?
14:15 < morfoh> misl: I'm fine too, thanks :) ... ( besides the headache I've atm.)
14:16 < misl> headache? Too much worries my friend?
14:16 < morfoh> misl: nope ... to less and to bad sleep the last days. 
14:16 < morfoh> misl: don't worry ;)
14:17 < morfoh> s/to/too/
14:17 < misl> :)
14:34 < rxr> jsaw: the mesa update yields unresolved symbols ...
14:40 < CIA-18> chris * r15665 /trunk/package/security/libprelude/libprelude.desc: * updated libprelude (0.9.6 -> 0.9.6.1)
14:42 < valentin> can anyone tell, which loop break and continue refer to ? i thought it would be the innermost for/while loop ....
14:42 < rxr> should be 
14:43 < valentin> or does break just skip to the end of the block like in switch ?
14:44  * valentin reading standard
14:45 < owl> moin
14:46 < morfoh> moin owl
14:46 < owl> hi morfoh 
14:49 < valentin> ok, my knowledge concerning those statements is correct.
14:50 < valentin> rxr: did you know that a continue in a non-looped environment is equivalent to goto contin: ?
14:51 < rxr> goto what ?
14:51 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15666 /trunk/package/x11/mesa/ (X11R7.patch mesa.conf): 
14:51 < CIA-18> * use makefile target for optimization
14:51 < CIA-18>  (untested)
14:51 < valentin> goto contin:
14:51 < valentin> where you can set the contin label elsewhere
14:52 < valentin> whatever the f*** that should be good for...
14:52 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15667 /trunk/package/develop/apr-util/ (apr-util.conf libsuff.patch): 
14:52 < CIA-18> * add ${libsuff} to linker paths, so that no -L/*/lib
14:52 < CIA-18>  shows up on .la files on respective architectures
14:53 < jsaw> rxr: r15666 should do it
14:53 < jsaw> me gone again
14:56 < rxr> glGetActiveAttribARB ?
14:56  * rxr is at HEAD ?
14:58 < rxr> ah - that just commited one ...
15:05 < mnemoc> rehi
15:06 < rxr> rehi
15:07 < rxr> jsaw: indeed
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15:20 < CIA-18> rene * r15668 /trunk/package/network/isakmpd/lib64-libs.patch: * fixed isakmpd to not assume specifc static libraries in the system
15:31 < CIA-18> rene * r15669 /trunk/package/dictionary/aspell/gcc41.patch: * fixed aspell for gcc41
15:33 < rxr> 919 builds total, 860 completed fine, 34 with errors.
15:33 < rxr> ^- gcc-4.1 trunk
15:48 < Demian> hi
15:57 < rxr> 918 builds total, 862 completed fine, 31 with errors.
15:58 < mnemoc> 31 to go :)
16:00 < morfoh> hi mnemoc 
16:02 < mnemoc> hi morfoh 
16:14  * rxr back in some minutes
16:14 < rxr> audacity also fixed locally
16:14 < rxr> commit when it testbuilt
16:14 < rxr> so less than 30 gcc41 issues remaining ...
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16:25 < keinek> hi
16:29 < mnemoc> wb keinek 
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16:51 < rxr> re
16:52 < rxr> /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature:temperature:             64 C
16:52 < rxr> ...
16:57 < LMJ> i'm trolling with a debian user (also one of my teacher :-/)  i'm telling him i don't have to make my own kernel config to have a good light clean working Kernel
16:57 < LMJ> and up-to-date
16:57 < LMJ> lol
16:57 < rxr> *:-)*
16:59 < LMJ> do you have an idea to show how much the kernel use in memory ?
17:00 < rxr> depends what number
17:00 < rxr> when in use the kernel might have allocated alot for stateful firewalling, big video and sound buffers ...
17:00 < LMJ> i don't really know
17:00 < LMJ> ha ok
17:02 < LMJ> and he told me he doesn't like initrd because it can autorize kernel rootkit and make the boot very long if modules are big
17:02 < LMJ> what i don't know too ;)
17:03 < rxr> initrd is a must when you want to boot a system on any hardware
17:03 < rxr> e.g. exchang mainboard and thus ide, scsi ... controler
17:04 < rxr> also loading modules later on does not take longer than when they are in a big fat kernel
17:04 < rxr> e.g. especially when grub loads them in PIO mode thu ugly BIOS calls slowly from disk
17:04 < rxr> well - ok the initrd is also loaded with grub - sigh
17:05 < rxr> I'm sick of windows problems exchanging the system underneath the hard-disk
17:06 < rxr> and to have the same functionality you need the driver in the kernel or as modules in the initrd - the load speed and size is the same no matter where they hand around
17:06 < rxr> and when you can have root access you can inject your attack code everywhere - you do not need the initrd for that ...
17:07 < LMJ> well said ;)
17:07 < rxr> well if your initrd is rw-rw-rw-, ... - but the same applies to your kerel image ,-))
17:09 < LMJ> not yet ;)
17:10  * Demian learns fortran
17:11 < LMJ> it will be ok Demian , just breathe
17:11 < rxr> _Ragnar_: wake ?
17:12 < Demian> :)
17:12 < Demian> it is easy. too near from assembly language.
17:12 < LMJ> ho yeah ?
17:12 < mnemoc> o_O
17:12 < LMJ> i did 2 years of assembly
17:13 < LMJ> then, i went to a strange hospital with white shirts with sleeve in the back
17:14 < LMJ> in a room with mattress all over the place and the walls
17:14 < Demian> i coded nasm, tasm, masm, gas and in spim (mips) for 1 year. did a kernel module in gas :). but it was just for fun, didn't take so much of my time.
17:15 < Demian> and learned tasm and masm because of academic reasons.
17:16 < Demian> why did u code in assembly LMJ ?
17:16 < LMJ> at the university
17:16 < LMJ> intel crap
17:16 < LMJ> 8031, 8086, 8088
17:16 < CIA-18> rene * r15670 /trunk/package/multimedia/dvbd/gcc41.patch: * fixed dvbd for gcc41
17:16 < LMJ> it was for industry needs
17:16 < Demian> how old are u ?
17:17 < LMJ> i'm 23
17:17 < LMJ> then, i made my own CPU, my own µ-code and my own assembly instruction ;)
17:17 < LMJ> *s
17:19 < mnemoc> LMJ: 8088 is older than 8086 :)
17:19 < Demian> i did a CPU, with ALU, UC, 6 arithmetic operations.. circuited, using B2Logic. 4bits :p
17:19 < rxr> mnemoc: intel germany deinted to have a 8086 when I once requested specs 10 years ago ++ ...
17:19 < LMJ> 1 bits, 8Mhz
17:19 < rxr> damned marketing druids ...
17:19 < LMJ> lol rxr
17:19 < mnemoc> rxr: :(
17:19 < rxr> 8086? no sir we do not have such a chip ...
17:20 < mnemoc> :D
17:21 < LMJ> well
17:21 < LMJ> it's old
17:21 < LMJ> i'm not going to code assembly anymore
17:21 < LMJ> i want to keep my brain safe
17:21 < LMJ> but i learned a lot of things anyway
17:23 < Demian> code in assembly is not difficult, complex maybe. but if you wrote procedures usign existing calling conventions, and wrote things in an organized way, you get fast reusable libraries.
17:24 < Demian> i know of a guy that coded an OS in nasm.
17:24 < rxr> yes, there are asm OSs out there
17:24 < Demian> he was doing some work with minix too, Robert, the OS name is primula, it has nice stuff.
17:25 < rxr> but I think ASM has nothing todo in todays IT middle-ware
17:25 < LMJ> LOL
17:25 < LMJ> it works ?
17:25 < LMJ> that's crazy
17:25 < rxr> it just is unportable and often quite unreadable junk
17:25 < Demian> sure.
17:25 < LMJ> C++ is better ?? :-/
17:25 < rxr> there is also some other popular ASM OS ...
17:25 < rxr> minute or whatever
17:26 < rxr> http://www.menuetos.org
17:27 < LMJ> it should be over-fast, no ?
17:27 < rxr> more like over unfeatured and hard to maintain / extend ...
17:28 < LMJ> hehehe
17:28 < rxr> well written C code is often faster than badly coded ASM - where people loose the overview and don't want to tune the algorithm due too much work
17:28 < LMJ> congrats to this crazy guy
17:31 < Demian> anyways, the programmer should be skilled to code optimized code, even under assembly. in highlevel languages optimization becomes part of the compiler.
17:31  * Demian is out for lunch
17:32 < CIA-18> rene * r15671 /trunk/package/x11/ddcxinfo/ddcxinfo.desc: * ddcxinfo is x86 only (someone wants to hack it up for x86-64?)
17:34 < rxr> hm? that one was old ,-))
17:36 < LMJ> ho
17:36 < LMJ> it's my t2 birthday today ;)
17:36 < LMJ> t2 2.1.1.1 actually
17:36 < Demian> monday will be my 23 bday :)
17:36 < LMJ> $ uptime
17:36 < LMJ>  18:39:49 up 101 days, 0 min, 
17:37 < LMJ> for my Net/Email/P2P/chat pc
17:40  * rxr hacking fox to build with gcc-4.1
17:40 < rxr> not that funny
17:40 < sepp> hello :)
17:41 < LMJ> gcc-4.1 will be for 2.2 ?
17:41 < LMJ> hello sepp 
17:41 < rxr> maybe
17:41 < sepp> hi LMJ 
17:41 < rxr> hi sepp
17:41 < rxr> LMJ: we wanted 2.2.0 for cebit
17:41 < sepp> hi rxr 
17:41 < rxr> but we did not got a booth slot on the OpenBooth so far
17:41 < rxr> thus I think about a more leading edge 2.2 with gcc-4.1
17:42 < rxr> 4.1 does not enforce too many patches
17:42 < rxr> every other gcc update I did so far was more hostile
17:42 < CIA-18> rene * r15672 /trunk/package/audio/audacity/gcc41.patch: * fixed audacity for gcc41
17:42 < LMJ> what a pain
17:42 < sepp> should i commit 3 more gcc-4.1 patches? (mjpegtools, cinelerra, hugin)
17:42 < rxr> sepp: sure
17:43 < rxr> please name then /gcc41.patch
17:43 < sepp> ok 
17:44 < rxr>   */
17:44 < rxr>   friend FXAPI FXString FXStringVal(FXint num,FXint base=10);
17:44 < rxr>   friend FXAPI FXString FXStringVal(FXuint num,FXint base=10);
17:44 < rxr>   /**
17:44 < rxr>   * Convert long integer number to a string, using the given number
17:44 < rxr>   * base, which must be between 2 and 16.
17:44 < rxr>   */
17:44 < rxr>   friend FXAPI FXString FXStringVal(FXlong num,FXint base=10);
17:44 < rxr>   friend FXAPI FXString FXStringVal(FXulong num,FXint base=10);
17:44 < rxr> oops
17:44 < rxr>   */
17:44 < rxr>   friend FXAPI FXString FXStringVal(FXint num,FXint base=10);
17:44 < rxr>   friend FXAPI FXString FXStringVal(FXuint num,FXint base=10);
17:44 < rxr>   /**
17:44 < rxr>   * Convert long integer number to a string, using the given number
17:44 < rxr>   * base, which must be between 2 and 16.
17:44 < rxr>   */
17:44 < rxr>   friend FXAPI FXString FXStringVal(FXlong num,FXint base=10);
17:44 < rxr>   friend FXAPI FXString FXStringVal(FXulong num,FXint base=10);
17:44 < rxr> argh
17:45 < mnemoc> flooder
17:45 < CIA-18> sebastian * r15673 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtkglextmm/ (gtkglextmm.conf gtkglextmm.desc): * updated gtkglextmm (1.1.0 -> 1.2.0)
17:46 < CIA-18> sebastian * r15674 /trunk/package/graphic/libpano/libpano.desc: * updated libpano (2.7.0.14 -> 2.8.0)
17:48 < rxr> sepp: do you build with my gcc-4.1 patch or have hacked it yourself ?
17:48 < sepp> rxr: your patch - just 4.1.0
17:49 < CIA-18> sebastian * r15675 /trunk/package/multimedia/mjpegtools/gcc41.patch: * fixed mjpegtools for gcc41
17:49 < CIA-18> sebastian * r15676 /trunk/package/multimedia/cinelerra/gcc41.patch: * fixed cinelerra for gcc41
17:53 < CIA-18> sebastian * r15677 /trunk/package/graphic/hugin/gcc41.patch: * fixed hugin for gcc41
17:59 < rxr> whole target build I suppose ?
17:59 < rxr> how much outstanding fixes are needed for your build ?
17:59 < rxr> btw. what do you build regularly ?
17:59 < sepp> yes - 4
18:00 < sepp> my own small target
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18:10 < rxr> what regressions pending on your side ?
18:12 < sepp> rezound, inkscape and aqsis
18:12 < rxr> rezound is due fox
18:12 < rxr> I'm on fox
18:12 < sepp> :)
18:13 < rxr> can I motivate your to take inkscape ?
18:13 < sepp> hmm
18:13 < sepp> not sure - hehehe
18:23 < rxr> I think fox is fixed now
18:27 < rxr> verification build running
18:28 < rxr>  load average: 4.44, 3.84, 3.23
18:28 < rxr> stressed hammer
18:29 < sepp> there is a i try the inkscape patch from gentoo - looks good, mostly only "extra qualification" things
18:29 < sepp> - the 1st 3 words
18:29 < sepp> lol
18:32 < sepp> uhm - does not even apply ...
18:32 < sepp> well, i will check inkscape 
18:37 < Demian> bye
18:40 < LMJ> gtg
18:40 < LMJ> see you
18:45 < rxr> cu Demian 
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19:05 < keinek> hi
19:07 < rxr> == 03/04/06 20:08:49 =[5]=> Finished building package kdebase.
19:07 < rxr> ^- gcc-4.1
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19:08 < sepp> :)
19:15 < rxr> rezound next
19:15 < rxr> as is libdv
19:15 < rxr> though libdv might be broken with gcc-4.0 for x86-64 anyway
19:21 < sepp> == 03/04/06 20:25:16 =[5]=> Finished building package inkscape.
19:21 < sepp> :)
19:21 < sepp> well, just googled it
19:28 < rxr> lucky you
19:31 < mnemoc> :)
19:40 < CIA-18> sebastian * r15678 /trunk/package/audio/hydrogen/gcc41.patch: * fixed hydrogen for gcc41
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19:48 < CIA-18> rene * r15681 /trunk/package/multimedia/libdv/amd64-no-mmx-gcc41.patch: 
19:48 < CIA-18> * disabled mmx assembly in libdv for x86-64, does not assemble with
19:48 < CIA-18>  my binutils / gcc41
20:00 < rxr> sepp: how fluid are you in exceptional c++ ?
20:01 < CIA-18> rene * r15682 /trunk/package/x11/fox/fox.desc: * updated fox (1.4.27 -> 1.4.30)
20:01 < CIA-18> rene * r15683 /trunk/package/audio/ladspa/gcc41.patch: * fixed ladspa for gcc41 (the usual friend injection)
20:01 < CIA-18> rene * r15684 /trunk/package/audio/rezound/rezound.conf: * removed rezound.conf, not needed anymore
20:02 < rxr> sepp: when do you commit the inkscape patch ?
20:02 < CIA-18> rene * r15685 /trunk/package/audio/rezound/gcc41.patch: 
20:02 < CIA-18> * basically fixed the major rezound gcc41 issue (oneliner),
20:02 < CIA-18>  builds with gcc40 but fails to link with gcc41 :-(
20:04 < sepp> ci - done :)
20:05 < CIA-18> sebastian * r15686 /trunk/package/graphic/inkscape/gcc41.patch: * fixed inkscape for gcc41
20:06 < sepp> i am not fluid 
20:08 < rxr> rezound has a undefined ref problem in template code left ...
20:09 < sepp> i am looking at aqsis 
20:19 < valentin> rxr: HEAD still has this bug where 3rd party module errors do not show up ?
20:41 < valentin> damn: alsamixer -> Illegal instruction (core dumped)
21:03 < rxr> .oO
21:03 < rxr> what did you optimize to ?
21:03 < rxr> valentin: what do you mean with show up ?
21:04 < rxr> 918 builds total, 876 completed fine, 27 with errors.
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21:26 < rxr> 918 builds total, 880 completed fine, 26 with errors.
22:01 < valentin> rxr: there is no message when a module did not built
22:02 < valentin> rxr: i don't think that one is due to optimization, the kernel runs w.o. problems
22:02 < valentin> maybe i probed to many alsa modules at once
22:03 < rxr> maybe the issue with 3rd party moduels is due to too old bash
22:03 < rxr> you did not got the warning what that 3rd party add-on faile d?
22:04 < valentin> yes
22:04 < rxr> the code I fabricated was some trial'n error ...
22:04 < rxr> I made 7 crosses in the calendar when it worked for me (tm)
22:04 < valentin> .oO
22:05 < CIA-18> rene * r15687 /trunk/package/textproc/htdig/gcc41.patch: * fixed htdig for gcc41
22:06 < rxr> gcc-3_4-branch frozen
22:06 < rxr> Please consider the branch gcc-3_4-branch as frozen for release
22:06 < rxr> purpose, and after that forever.
22:06 < rxr> -- Gaby
22:06 < rxr> ^- heh
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22:16 < rxr> with 24hx7 building t2 HEAD my hammer subnotebook feels a bit warm ...
22:16 < rxr> more so with 1.2GB RAM and thus less I/O-wait ,-))
22:16 < rxr> poor plastic - ..
22:18 < CIA-18> rene * r15688 /trunk/package/develop/openjade/gcc41.patch.OpenSP: * fixed openjade for gcc41
22:20 < CIA-18> rene * r15689 /trunk/package/x86/sonypid/fixes.patch: * fixed sonypid for X11R7 and lib64 as well as a but warned by gcc41
22:20 < rxr> 918 builds total, 884 completed fine, 15 with errors.
22:20 < rxr> next T2 tag with gcc-4.1 next wednessday to kick Knoppers^W Knoppix 5.0's ass ?
22:21 < rxr> higher faster clear ^3 and for any arch you want?
22:22 < mnemoc> cebit?
22:23 < rxr> knoppix yes, on another big german publisher and on a uni booth ...
22:23 < rxr> heh - dvbd gcc41 fixes applied upstream ,-))
22:40 < CIA-18> rene * r15690 /trunk/package/x86/apmd/X11-lib64.patch: * fixed apmd for X11 with lib64
22:42 < CIA-18> sebastian * r15691 /trunk/package/multimedia/mplayer/x11-monitor-aspect.patch: * do not overwrite monitor_aspect if xinerama is active
22:47 < rxr> ,-)
22:47 < rxr> sepp: does my patch work for the case when someone specifies the --monitoraspect manually ?
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23:16 < sepp> good night #t2 :)
23:20 < mnemoc> gn8 sepp 
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