--- Log opened Thu Mar 02 00:00:03 2006 00:46 -!- idealm [n=ideal@58.33.57.17] has joined #t2 01:07 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15643 /trunk/package/network/dbus/ (dbus.conf dbus.desc dbus.init postsysfiles.in): 01:07 < CIA-18> * updated dbus (0.60 -> 0.61) 01:07 < CIA-18> * copyright updates 01:08 < morfoh> oh! dr.j. still active :) 01:08 < morfoh> hi jsaw btw ;) 01:08 < jsaw> hi morfoh 01:09 < jsaw> but my eyes almost close by themselves 01:09 < morfoh> yeah ... mine too. will go sleep soon 01:12 < mnemoc> professor master dr. J. 01:12 < mnemoc> s/master/guru/ 01:12 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15644 /trunk/scripts/config-functions.in: * make pkgsel_parse parse multiple patterns 01:12 < jsaw> hi mnemoc :p 01:12 < mnemoc> i'll go to make my girls sleep.... cu 01:12 < mnemoc> hi jsaw :) 01:12 < jsaw> have fun.......hehe......make your girls sleep ... hehe 01:13 < jsaw> :] 01:13 < mnemoc> :) 01:13 < mnemoc> you have the same amount of girls i have :) 01:13 < morfoh> mnemoc: :) 01:14 < jsaw> mnemoc: and I know how hard that can be once in a while... 01:14 < mnemoc> :D 01:14 < mnemoc> cu 01:14 < morfoh> poor guys :) 01:14 < morfoh> cu mnemoc :) 01:14 < jsaw> morfoh: well, that you have to experience yourself ;) 01:15 < jsaw> huh 01:15 < jsaw> my screen is screwed ... ??? once again ?? 01:16 < jsaw> morfoh: (I saw you saying "cu mnemoc :) now how hard that can be once in a while..." and replied... 01:16 < jsaw> bias 01:16 < morfoh> jsaw: I have sometime's to force a little men of almost 3 years to go to bed ... that's enough ... I don't need 3 girls :p 01:17 < morfoh> but I can imagine what kind of tricks they are trying ... 01:17 < jsaw> back 01:17 < morfoh> wb jsaw :) 01:17 < jsaw> morfoh: hehe 01:18 < jsaw> (on tty now, my X is heavily unstable...) 01:20 -!- idealm [n=ideal@58.33.57.17] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:20 < morfoh> yeah ... that are the kind of problems we have before going to sleep ... postfix is segfaulting on 2.1-test 01:20 < morfoh> .oO( poor geeks )o 01:21 < morfoh> even without .cl :p 01:24 < jsaw> ... 01:24 < morfoh> -_- 01:26 < morfoh> -_o 01:26 < morfoh> !> Unknown error: -1210504335 01:26 < morfoh> !> ./postfix-install: line 731: 21848 Segmentation fault 01:30 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.46.90] has joined #t2 01:32 < jsaw> morfoh: nice ! 01:33 < morfoh> o_- 01:33 < morfoh> jsaw: I guess I've found the problem 01:33 < morfoh> with one eye 01:33 < morfoh> but have to checl 01:33 < morfoh> check 01:34 < jsaw> what is it? 01:34 < morfoh> I think it's a permission problem 01:34 < morfoh> of postfix-install 01:37 < jsaw> ok, but segfault...??? 01:37 < morfoh> btw, where is our "update-vandal" ? 01:38 < morfoh> jsaw: yes ... it doesn't fit 01:38 < morfoh> and it's still segfaulting 01:59 < jsaw> echo dream > /sys/power/brain 01:59 < jsaw> cu tomorrow 01:59 < morfoh> jsaw: :) 01:59 < morfoh> sleep well 01:59 < jsaw> thanks, you too 02:00 < morfoh> -_- thanks 02:48 < morfoh> mnemoc: r14102 fixes gsmlib on 2.1-test 02:49 < morfoh> mnemoc: at least it builds now with gcc4.patch 02:49 * morfoh going to sleep 02:49 < morfoh> gn8 02:51 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.247.240] has joined #t2 03:02 < morfoh> mnemoc: r12933 fixes audacity for 2.1-test 03:18 < sepp> morfoh speaks while sleeping :) 03:27 -!- morfoh [n=morfoh@p54BEED44.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:36 -!- mnemoc [n=amery@200.73.88.2] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:40 < LMJ> moin moin all 05:40 < owl> hi LMJ 05:41 < owl> moin... you're really a funny person... *still hasn't slept* 05:41 < LMJ> hehe 05:41 < owl> _not_funny 05:41 < LMJ> no, i'm working now, i have to wake up early 05:41 < owl> *gg* working where? 05:42 < LMJ> in the biggest aeronautic company : Latecoere (EADS is european), i'm on the Computer office in the Parent company building 05:43 < owl> hrm. .de? 05:43 < LMJ> sorry, french 05:43 < owl> ah ok. 05:43 < owl> manching would be funny ;) 05:43 < LMJ> i'm the linux guys there, and the 2nd for WAN security and network stuff 05:43 < owl> nice ;) 05:45 < LMJ> so, i have to wake up early 05:45 < owl> would be my dead :) 05:46 < LMJ> it's mine :-/ 05:47 < owl> wonderful ;) 05:52 < owl> gn8 ;) 05:57 < LMJ> GTG, see you tonight 07:06 -!- Baldzius [n=baldzius@85.206.96.220] has joined #t2 07:07 < Baldzius> moin 07:55 < valentin> moin 07:59 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178141192.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 07:59 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.1.1 and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/ 07:59 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Jan 14 21:42:03 2006] 07:59 [Users #t2] 07:59 [@ChanServ] [ idealm] [ mtr_] [ rxr_ ] [ valentin] 07:59 [ Baldzius] [ jsaw ] [ owl ] [ sepp ] [ _Ragnar_] 07:59 [ CIA-18 ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly] 07:59 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal] 07:59 -!- [freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 07:59 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004 07:59 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 46 secs 08:07 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178144005.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 08:37 < rxr_> re 08:37 -!- You're now known as rxr 08:39 < valentin> moin rxr 08:43 < rxr> moin valentin 08:43 < Baldzius> moin valentin rxr 08:44 < valentin> damn f....ng cold in here - no heating and no warm water atm 08:46 < rxr> huh ? 08:46 < rxr> hey Baldzius ! 08:46 < valentin> hi Baldzius 08:50 < rxr> whats up with your heating ? 08:50 < valentin> no idea. maybe the pump or the main heat exchanger is broken 08:55 < CIA-18> aldas * r15645 /trunk/package/mail/sylpheed/sylpheed.desc: * updated sylpheed (2.2.0 -> 2.2.1) 09:02 < rxr> Baldzius: nice to see you back - you are all fine ? 09:03 < Baldzius> rxr: yeah, all parts in place :) 10:29 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.46.90] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:39 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15646 /trunk/package/base/gmp/ (autotools.patch gmp.conf gmp.desc sparc.patch): 10:39 < CIA-18> * specialized autogen for gmp to remove wrong dependency paths 10:39 < CIA-18> in .la files 10:52 -!- morfoh [n=morfoh@p54BEDE33.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 10:52 < morfoh> moin 10:56 < rxr> moin morfoh 10:58 < morfoh> moin rxr 10:58 -!- idealm [n=ideal@58.33.57.17] has joined #t2 11:16 -!- sparc-kly_ [n=mubex@64.237.242.193] has joined #t2 11:28 < jsaw> gcc 4.1 released... hey, rxr... 11:32 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.247.240] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:32 < morfoh> moin jsaw 11:33 < jsaw> hi morfoh :) 11:34 < morfoh> :) 11:46 < rxr> jsaw: hyi 11:47 < rxr> jsaw: I have a gcc-4.1 diff here ,-) do you want it ? 11:48 < jsaw> rxr: yes, see query 11:48 < jsaw> hi, btw :) 11:48 < rxr> or the t2 list ,-) 11:49 < jsaw> rxr: please CC to that query address 11:49 < rxr> ouhm ? 11:50 < jsaw> rxr: I was fighting with instabilities of my new system (since two month) and had no time to setup my smtp/imap/http/svn etc. stuff 11:50 < jsaw> yet 11:50 < rxr> instability ? 11:50 < jsaw> X server hangs mostly 11:50 < rxr> uohm 11:51 < rxr> what gfx chip ? 11:51 < jsaw> sis 760GX 11:51 < rxr> hm 11:51 < jsaw> memory is overwritten at the wrong places... 11:52 < rxr> the sis driver got some ugly code - e.g. custom memcpy ... 11:52 < rxr> it should never have made it in the try 11:52 < rxr> but t. winisshoeffer --typos is quite active - maybe just drop him a mail 11:52 < rxr> and/or x.org list 11:53 < jsaw> ic 11:53 < rxr> sending 11:53 < rxr> the libtool-junk removal bits are quitebig 11:54 < jsaw> ? 11:54 < jsaw> oh, gcc,... 11:58 < rxr> that is the RC2 12:05 < rxr> http://www.golem.de/0603/43716.html 12:08 < jsaw> :) 12:14 * rxr finding myself tweaking libusb ... 12:19 < jsaw> rxr: you were right, the memcpy stuff is the problem... 12:20 -!- karasz [n=root@80.97.102.202] has joined #T2 12:20 < jsaw> I copied the builtin_memcpy into a test program..., everything is alright if copied number & 7 != 0... 12:23 -!- karasz [n=root@80.97.102.202] has quit [Client Quit] 12:24 < jsaw> hmmm 12:32 < rxr> where does it crash - in those memcpy ? 12:32 < jsaw> hmmm. actually no. I have to take deeper look (seems I don't get the code exactly) 12:33 < jsaw> still, there are issues with it 12:33 < jsaw> like having "int" as third argument 12:33 < jsaw> should be unsigned long (or size_t) 12:35 < rxr> 1.7Gccache-x86-64 12:35 < rxr> 155Mccache-x86-64-1 12:35 < rxr> 103Mccache-x86-64-2 12:35 < rxr> 26Mccache-x86-64-x86-64-0 12:36 < jsaw> have to do sth. else, cu later 12:44 < rxr> yeah - me too - improve libusb :-(( 12:44 < rxr> and in theory usb handling on Darwin / OS X as well 12:45 < rxr> some more USB days and I fear parts of my stomarch turn over 12:48 -!- karasz [n=root@80.97.102.202] has joined #T2 14:16 -!- mnemoc [n=amery@200.73.88.2] has joined #t2 14:17 < morfoh> wb mnemoc :) 14:17 < mnemoc> thanks morfoh :) 14:17 < rxr> hi mnemoc 14:18 < mnemoc> oin rxr 14:18 < mnemoc> moin 14:21 < morfoh> mnemoc: I think we shouldn't update to gcc-3.4.5 on 2.1 14:22 < mnemoc> reasons? 14:23 < mnemoc> (ROCK has 3.4.5 on their trunk) 14:24 < morfoh> I think the changes are not worth to update it ... 14:24 < rxr> ? the gcc people have released a regression fixes release for good reasons ... 14:25 < morfoh> ok ... /me is shutting up then ... you're the gcc masters. 14:26 < morfoh> mnemoc: then read your away log ;) 14:27 < mnemoc> was offline, no away log 14:28 < rxr> http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-3.4/changes.html#3.4.5 14:28 < morfoh> mnemoc: then I will merge 2 little changes to fix audacity and gsmlib 14:29 < morfoh> but I wasn't able to find the reason of postfix segfaults while running postfix-install 14:30 < mnemoc> uhm 14:42 < rxr> linux.c | 107 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++------------------------------ 14:42 < rxr> 1 file changed, 58 insertions(+), 49 deletions(-) 14:42 < rxr> ^- libusb 14:43 < mnemoc> reindentation? 14:44 < rxr> no - rewriting the damned usb_urb_transfer function 14:44 < mnemoc> oh 14:45 < rxr> in the hope to get more speed out of the kernel 14:45 < rxr> just proof of concept 14:45 < rxr> the windows driver gets 2x out of the recent scanners ... .-( 14:45 < rxr> and os x is even slower 14:45 < mnemoc> oh 14:45 < rxr> if I'm unlucky I'll have to add an additional interface of _async function to libusb and sanei_usb .. 14:46 < rxr> apple even responded to my mail on the usb list within minutes - at least that was impressive ... 14:47 < mnemoc> :) 14:48 < rxr> though if their answer is the only way to speed this up I'll have the above mentioned work to schedule 14:48 < rxr> add an _asnc set of read/write functions to libusb and sanei_usb ... 14:48 < rxr> just to saturate the USB URB queu of their damn slow usb subsystem ... 14:48 < rxr> guess the effect of the lagging mach architecture on the base .. 14:49 < mnemoc> uhm 14:49 < rxr> but that is just a guess ... 14:51 < rxr> but I prototype if this could in theory speed it up under linux - because T2 is the way more relaxing OS to work on - and I can browse what the kernel is doing with my requests .... 14:52 < rxr> last night i even started to edit the Linux USB code ... .-(( 14:52 < mnemoc> i hope it works 14:52 < rxr> nope - I discarded that idea due to the sheer mods needed for that case 14:53 < rxr> I decided it is more universal to improve the user-space side - works on old kernels as well and the kernel folks convinced me it would result in the same speed ... 14:53 < rxr> and user-space editing is somewhat more relaxing ,-))) 14:55 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: are you using vserver-2.0.2-rc*? 15:02 < rxr> puh 15:03 < rxr> at least the easy transfers still work with my "parallel queue N USB URBs" libusb flavour 15:03 < rxr> submitting urb 0 15:03 < rxr> waitinf for URB 0 15:03 < rxr> marking URB 0x54a3b0 done. 15:03 < rxr> which was the one we have been waiting for. 15:03 < rxr> lets see if it works queining N of them ,-)) 15:04 -!- idealm [n=ideal@58.33.57.17] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:09 < rxr> HM 15:21 < rxr> heh 15:21 < rxr> now it survided a scan 15:22 < rxr> heh - the image data even looks correct 15:22 < rxr> submitting urb 7 15:22 < rxr> submitting urb 8 15:22 < rxr> submitting urb 9 15:22 < rxr> waiting for URB 0 15:22 < rxr> marking URB 0x57df00 done. 15:22 < rxr> which was the one we have been waiting for. 15:22 < rxr> waiting for URB 1 15:22 < rxr> marking URB 0x57df38 done. 15:22 < rxr> which was the one we have been waiting for. 15:25 < rxr> hm - maybe slightly faster 15:25 < rxr> if my logs are correct, 0:38.10 vs. 0:23.04 15:27 < rxr> for 56MB of data 15:42 < LMJ> moin moin 15:44 < rxr> yep - scanning 10 A4 pages with color @ 300dpi is 0:47.5s vs. 0:27.4s 15:44 < rxr> impressive 15:45 -!- idealm [n=ideal@58.33.57.17] has joined #t2 15:48 < rxr> linux.c | 118 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------------------------- 15:48 < rxr> 1 file changed, 71 insertions(+), 47 deletions(-) 15:56 * rxr booting into evil OS from the garage in Redmond - to stopwatch the windows driver ,-)) cu 15:59 < mnemoc> doh 16:16 < rxr> re 16:16 < rxr> heh 16:16 < rxr> now the windows driver is some seconds slower again ,-) 16:16 < rxr> that is how the world should be ... 16:16 < mnemoc> :) 16:16 < rxr> it needs over 30 seconds for the same set of pages and settings ,-)) 16:16 < rxr> on the same Tuion hammer ... 16:21 < mnemoc> :D 16:39 < rxr> Turion ... 16:40 < rxr> hm - now our driver is 4x faster on Linux compared to OS X ... :-(( 16:40 < rxr> and 20% faster than Windows ? 16:46 < CIA-18> amery * r15647 /trunk/package/develop/clip/clip.desc: * updated clip (1.1.15-59 -> 1.1.15-64) 16:53 -!- mnemoc_ [n=amery@200.73.88.6] has joined #t2 16:54 -!- mnemoc [n=amery@200.73.88.2] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 16:54 -!- mnemoc_ is now known as mnemoc 16:57 -!- idealm [n=ideal@58.33.57.17] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:02 < mnemoc> rxr: 'just' rewritting usb_urb_transfer() ? 17:03 < owl> re 17:04 < mnemoc> wb owlita 17:05 < owl> thx mnemoc 17:06 < rxr> mnemoc: rewritten so submit sizeof (urb) / MAX_READ_WRITE urbs in parallel 17:06 < rxr> that are 9 in parallel enqueed into the kernel in my use-case 17:12 < mnemoc> :) 17:12 < mnemoc> let see what LKML say about :) 17:26 < rxr> I aksed how many I can enque - e.g. if 64 is valid and they says yes ... 17:26 < rxr> also this parallel thing is what they said I should do instead increasing this 16kB buffer ... 17:27 < rxr> so all is fine - despite the OS X side is even dog slower now - compared to what is possible ... 17:44 -!- Baldzius [n=baldzius@85.206.96.220] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:55 < rxr> cu later 17:56 < mnemoc> cu 17:59 -!- Baldzius [n=baldzius@85.206.159.219] has joined #t2 18:22 < _Ragnar_> mnemoc: no 18:23 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: :( 18:24 < _Ragnar_> why? 18:26 < _Ragnar_> should I? :) 18:28 < mnemoc> 2.0.2 is stoped by the lack of feedback about the -rc* 18:48 < rxr> re 18:55 < rxr> K3b 0.12.13 18:56 < _Ragnar_> oh 19:35 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 19:37 < misl> hi folks 19:38 < rxr> hi misl 19:38 < misl> hi rxr 19:50 < rxr> == 20:04:15 =[0]=> Building base/gcc [4.1.0 2.2.0-alpha]. 19:50 < rxr> == 03/02/06 20:16:48 =[0]=> Finished building package gcc. 19:54 < mnemoc> awhat package brings libebook ? 19:54 < mnemoc> rxr: branch? 19:56 < rxr> trunk 19:56 < rxr> but not commited 19:56 < rxr> == 20:24:24 =[1]=> Building base/glibc [20051128 2.2.0-alpha]. 19:56 < rxr> == 03/02/06 20:52:24 =[1]=> Finished building package glibc. 20:19 -!- mnemoc [n=amery@200.73.88.6] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:23 < rxr> http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/macbookpro.ars 20:32 < morfoh> re 20:32 < rxr> hi morfoh 20:32 < morfoh> hi rxr 20:32 < morfoh> misl: hi moped men :) 20:33 < rxr> ok - n8 all 20:33 < rxr> cu then - hopefully very early ,-) 20:36 < morfoh> rxr: sleep well :) 20:36 < morfoh> rxr: tell susan that she should kick you out of the bed :p 20:41 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:45 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.141.170.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 21:05 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p83.129.177.225.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 21:36 -!- Baldzius_ [n=baldzius@85.206.100.33] has joined #t2 21:40 < morfoh> wb Baldzius_ :) 21:40 < Baldzius_> hi morfoh :) 21:40 -!- Baldzius [n=baldzius@85.206.159.219] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:41 -!- Baldzius_ is now known as Baldzius 21:41 < morfoh> men ... I missed the "update vandal" :) 21:41 < Baldzius> :) 21:41 < Baldzius> me visited parents for 2w 21:42 < morfoh> hehe ... cool! :) so you left your granny alone ? 21:43 < Baldzius> i had no choise :) 21:44 < morfoh> Baldzius: why ? hope nothing bad happened! 21:45 < morfoh> btw, before you'll starting to vandalize ... libtasn1 0.3.0 gives some problems with gnutls 21:45 < morfoh> but I'm checking it atm ... 21:45 < morfoh> ;) 21:46 < Baldzius> :) 21:47 < Baldzius> no , nothing happened 21:47 < Baldzius> 1. my passport got expired 21:47 < Baldzius> 2. i missed my parents :) 21:48 < Baldzius> last time i saw my dad it was 2y ago 21:48 < Baldzius> hm, no , 1y 21:49 < Baldzius> well, doesn't matter :) 21:49 < morfoh> oh! anyway ... 1 or 2 --- that's a long time 21:49 < Baldzius> yeah, quite ... 21:52 < morfoh> oh! oh! guess I've found the problem with gnutls ... damn package maintainer :p 21:53 < Baldzius> i hope itsn't me :) 21:53 < morfoh> nope me :p 21:56 < morfoh> gnutls includes most needed libs like libtasn1, opencdk, ... and after some symbol changes in libtasn1 0.3.0 it has some problems ... adding a proper .conf file to see if that will fix the problem 22:10 < morfoh> ok ... seems that I'm not "guilty" regarding the gnutls problems :) 22:35 < CIA-18> chris * r15648 /trunk/package/security/libprelude/libprelude.desc: * updated libprelude (0.9.5 -> 0.9.6) 22:50 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15649 /trunk/package/security/openssh/openssh.conf: * hardcoded X11R6 path in our own .conf file O.O 22:53 < _Ragnar_> naughty 22:54 < _Ragnar_> but why does openssh need X11 path? 22:58 < jsaw> _Ragnar_: xauth (X11 forwarding + auth) 22:59 < _Ragnar_> hmmm 22:59 < _Ragnar_> ok I see 23:10 -!- sparc-kly_ [n=mubex@64.237.242.193] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:10 -!- sparc-kly_ [n=mubex@64.237.250.243] has joined #t2 23:13 -!- keinek [n=keinek@200-70-145-185.mrse.com.ar] has joined #t2 23:13 < keinek> hi 23:31 -!- mtr [n=Michael@p54AFB5E1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 23:35 < morfoh> hi keinek 23:46 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@p54AFB94C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] --- Log closed Fri Mar 03 00:00:09 2006