T2 IRC Log: 2006-03-02
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--- Log opened Thu Mar 02 00:00:03 2006
00:46 -!- idealm [n=ideal@58.33.57.17] has joined #t2
01:07 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15643 /trunk/package/network/dbus/ (dbus.conf dbus.desc dbus.init postsysfiles.in):
01:07 < CIA-18> * updated dbus (0.60 -> 0.61)
01:07 < CIA-18> * copyright updates
01:08 < morfoh> oh! dr.j. still active :)
01:08 < morfoh> hi jsaw btw ;)
01:08 < jsaw> hi morfoh
01:09 < jsaw> but my eyes almost close by themselves
01:09 < morfoh> yeah ... mine too. will go sleep soon
01:12 < mnemoc> professor master dr. J.
01:12 < mnemoc> s/master/guru/
01:12 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15644 /trunk/scripts/config-functions.in: * make pkgsel_parse parse multiple patterns
01:12 < jsaw> hi mnemoc :p
01:12 < mnemoc> i'll go to make my girls sleep.... cu
01:12 < mnemoc> hi jsaw :)
01:12 < jsaw> have fun.......hehe......make your girls sleep ... hehe
01:13 < jsaw> :]
01:13 < mnemoc> :)
01:13 < mnemoc> you have the same amount of girls i have :)
01:13 < morfoh> mnemoc: :)
01:14 < jsaw> mnemoc: and I know how hard that can be once in a while...
01:14 < mnemoc> :D
01:14 < mnemoc> cu
01:14 < morfoh> poor guys :)
01:14 < morfoh> cu mnemoc :)
01:14 < jsaw> morfoh: well, that you have to experience yourself ;)
01:15 < jsaw> huh
01:15 < jsaw> my screen is screwed ... ??? once again ??
01:16 < jsaw> morfoh: (I saw you saying "cu mnemoc :) now how hard that can be once in a while..." and replied...
01:16 < jsaw> bias
01:16 < morfoh> jsaw: I have sometime's to force a little men of almost 3 years to go to bed ... that's enough ... I don't need 3 girls :p
01:17 < morfoh> but I can imagine what kind of tricks they are trying ...
01:17 < jsaw> back
01:17 < morfoh> wb jsaw :)
01:17 < jsaw> morfoh: hehe
01:18 < jsaw> (on tty now, my X is heavily unstable...)
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01:20 < morfoh> yeah ... that are the kind of problems we have before going to sleep ... postfix is segfaulting on 2.1-test
01:20 < morfoh> .oO( poor geeks )o
01:21 < morfoh> even without .cl :p
01:24 < jsaw> ...
01:24 < morfoh> -_-
01:26 < morfoh> -_o
01:26 < morfoh> !> Unknown error: -1210504335
01:26 < morfoh> !> ./postfix-install: line 731: 21848 Segmentation fault
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01:32 < jsaw> morfoh: nice !
01:33 < morfoh> o_-
01:33 < morfoh> jsaw: I guess I've found the problem
01:33 < morfoh> with one eye
01:33 < morfoh> but have to checl
01:33 < morfoh> check
01:34 < jsaw> what is it?
01:34 < morfoh> I think it's a permission problem
01:34 < morfoh> of postfix-install
01:37 < jsaw> ok, but segfault...???
01:37 < morfoh> btw, where is our "update-vandal" ?
01:38 < morfoh> jsaw: yes ... it doesn't fit
01:38 < morfoh> and it's still segfaulting
01:59 < jsaw> echo dream > /sys/power/brain
01:59 < jsaw> cu tomorrow
01:59 < morfoh> jsaw: :)
01:59 < morfoh> sleep well
01:59 < jsaw> thanks, you too
02:00 < morfoh> -_- thanks
02:48 < morfoh> mnemoc: r14102 fixes gsmlib on 2.1-test
02:49 < morfoh> mnemoc: at least it builds now with gcc4.patch
02:49 * morfoh going to sleep
02:49 < morfoh> gn8
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03:02 < morfoh> mnemoc: r12933 fixes audacity for 2.1-test
03:18 < sepp> morfoh speaks while sleeping :)
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05:40 < LMJ> moin moin all
05:40 < owl> hi LMJ
05:41 < owl> moin... you're really a funny person... *still hasn't slept*
05:41 < LMJ> hehe
05:41 < owl> _not_funny
05:41 < LMJ> no, i'm working now, i have to wake up early
05:41 < owl> *gg* working where?
05:42 < LMJ> in the biggest aeronautic company : Latecoere (EADS is european), i'm on the Computer office in the Parent company building
05:43 < owl> hrm. .de?
05:43 < LMJ> sorry, french
05:43 < owl> ah ok.
05:43 < owl> manching would be funny ;)
05:43 < LMJ> i'm the linux guys there, and the 2nd for WAN security and network stuff
05:43 < owl> nice ;)
05:45 < LMJ> so, i have to wake up early
05:45 < owl> would be my dead :)
05:46 < LMJ> it's mine :-/
05:47 < owl> wonderful ;)
05:52 < owl> gn8 ;)
05:57 < LMJ> GTG, see you tonight
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07:07 < Baldzius> moin
07:55 < valentin> moin
07:59 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178141192.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2
07:59 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.1.1 and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/
07:59 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Jan 14 21:42:03 2006]
07:59 [Users #t2]
07:59 [@ChanServ] [ idealm] [ mtr_] [ rxr_ ] [ valentin]
07:59 [ Baldzius] [ jsaw ] [ owl ] [ sepp ] [ _Ragnar_]
07:59 [ CIA-18 ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly]
07:59 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal]
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07:59 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004
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08:37 < rxr_> re
08:37 -!- You're now known as rxr
08:39 < valentin> moin rxr
08:43 < rxr> moin valentin
08:43 < Baldzius> moin valentin rxr
08:44 < valentin> damn f....ng cold in here - no heating and no warm water atm
08:46 < rxr> huh ?
08:46 < rxr> hey Baldzius !
08:46 < valentin> hi Baldzius
08:50 < rxr> whats up with your heating ?
08:50 < valentin> no idea. maybe the pump or the main heat exchanger is broken
08:55 < CIA-18> aldas * r15645 /trunk/package/mail/sylpheed/sylpheed.desc: * updated sylpheed (2.2.0 -> 2.2.1)
09:02 < rxr> Baldzius: nice to see you back - you are all fine ?
09:03 < Baldzius> rxr: yeah, all parts in place :)
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10:39 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15646 /trunk/package/base/gmp/ (autotools.patch gmp.conf gmp.desc sparc.patch):
10:39 < CIA-18> * specialized autogen for gmp to remove wrong dependency paths
10:39 < CIA-18> in .la files
10:52 -!- morfoh [n=morfoh@p54BEDE33.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2
10:52 < morfoh> moin
10:56 < rxr> moin morfoh
10:58 < morfoh> moin rxr
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11:28 < jsaw> gcc 4.1 released... hey, rxr...
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11:32 < morfoh> moin jsaw
11:33 < jsaw> hi morfoh :)
11:34 < morfoh> :)
11:46 < rxr> jsaw: hyi
11:47 < rxr> jsaw: I have a gcc-4.1 diff here ,-) do you want it ?
11:48 < jsaw> rxr: yes, see query
11:48 < jsaw> hi, btw :)
11:48 < rxr> or the t2 list ,-)
11:49 < jsaw> rxr: please CC to that query address
11:49 < rxr> ouhm ?
11:50 < jsaw> rxr: I was fighting with instabilities of my new system (since two month) and had no time to setup my smtp/imap/http/svn etc. stuff
11:50 < jsaw> yet
11:50 < rxr> instability ?
11:50 < jsaw> X server hangs mostly
11:50 < rxr> uohm
11:51 < rxr> what gfx chip ?
11:51 < jsaw> sis 760GX
11:51 < rxr> hm
11:51 < jsaw> memory is overwritten at the wrong places...
11:52 < rxr> the sis driver got some ugly code - e.g. custom memcpy ...
11:52 < rxr> it should never have made it in the try
11:52 < rxr> but t. winisshoeffer --typos is quite active - maybe just drop him a mail
11:52 < rxr> and/or x.org list
11:53 < jsaw> ic
11:53 < rxr> sending
11:53 < rxr> the libtool-junk removal bits are quitebig
11:54 < jsaw> ?
11:54 < jsaw> oh, gcc,...
11:58 < rxr> that is the RC2
12:05 < rxr> http://www.golem.de/0603/43716.html
12:08 < jsaw> :)
12:14 * rxr finding myself tweaking libusb ...
12:19 < jsaw> rxr: you were right, the memcpy stuff is the problem...
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12:20 < jsaw> I copied the builtin_memcpy into a test program..., everything is alright if copied number & 7 != 0...
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12:24 < jsaw> hmmm
12:32 < rxr> where does it crash - in those memcpy ?
12:32 < jsaw> hmmm. actually no. I have to take deeper look (seems I don't get the code exactly)
12:33 < jsaw> still, there are issues with it
12:33 < jsaw> like having "int" as third argument
12:33 < jsaw> should be unsigned long (or size_t)
12:35 < rxr> 1.7Gccache-x86-64
12:35 < rxr> 155Mccache-x86-64-1
12:35 < rxr> 103Mccache-x86-64-2
12:35 < rxr> 26Mccache-x86-64-x86-64-0
12:36 < jsaw> have to do sth. else, cu later
12:44 < rxr> yeah - me too - improve libusb :-((
12:44 < rxr> and in theory usb handling on Darwin / OS X as well
12:45 < rxr> some more USB days and I fear parts of my stomarch turn over
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14:17 < morfoh> wb mnemoc :)
14:17 < mnemoc> thanks morfoh :)
14:17 < rxr> hi mnemoc
14:18 < mnemoc> oin rxr
14:18 < mnemoc> moin
14:21 < morfoh> mnemoc: I think we shouldn't update to gcc-3.4.5 on 2.1
14:22 < mnemoc> reasons?
14:23 < mnemoc> (ROCK has 3.4.5 on their trunk)
14:24 < morfoh> I think the changes are not worth to update it ...
14:24 < rxr> ? the gcc people have released a regression fixes release for good reasons ...
14:25 < morfoh> ok ... /me is shutting up then ... you're the gcc masters.
14:26 < morfoh> mnemoc: then read your away log ;)
14:27 < mnemoc> was offline, no away log
14:28 < rxr> http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-3.4/changes.html#3.4.5
14:28 < morfoh> mnemoc: then I will merge 2 little changes to fix audacity and gsmlib
14:29 < morfoh> but I wasn't able to find the reason of postfix segfaults while running postfix-install
14:30 < mnemoc> uhm
14:42 < rxr> linux.c | 107 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++------------------------------
14:42 < rxr> 1 file changed, 58 insertions(+), 49 deletions(-)
14:42 < rxr> ^- libusb
14:43 < mnemoc> reindentation?
14:44 < rxr> no - rewriting the damned usb_urb_transfer function
14:44 < mnemoc> oh
14:45 < rxr> in the hope to get more speed out of the kernel
14:45 < rxr> just proof of concept
14:45 < rxr> the windows driver gets 2x out of the recent scanners ... .-(
14:45 < rxr> and os x is even slower
14:45 < mnemoc> oh
14:45 < rxr> if I'm unlucky I'll have to add an additional interface of _async function to libusb and sanei_usb ..
14:46 < rxr> apple even responded to my mail on the usb list within minutes - at least that was impressive ...
14:47 < mnemoc> :)
14:48 < rxr> though if their answer is the only way to speed this up I'll have the above mentioned work to schedule
14:48 < rxr> add an _asnc set of read/write functions to libusb and sanei_usb ...
14:48 < rxr> just to saturate the USB URB queu of their damn slow usb subsystem ...
14:48 < rxr> guess the effect of the lagging mach architecture on the base ..
14:49 < mnemoc> uhm
14:49 < rxr> but that is just a guess ...
14:51 < rxr> but I prototype if this could in theory speed it up under linux - because T2 is the way more relaxing OS to work on - and I can browse what the kernel is doing with my requests ....
14:52 < rxr> last night i even started to edit the Linux USB code ... .-((
14:52 < mnemoc> i hope it works
14:52 < rxr> nope - I discarded that idea due to the sheer mods needed for that case
14:53 < rxr> I decided it is more universal to improve the user-space side - works on old kernels as well and the kernel folks convinced me it would result in the same speed ...
14:53 < rxr> and user-space editing is somewhat more relaxing ,-)))
14:55 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: are you using vserver-2.0.2-rc*?
15:02 < rxr> puh
15:03 < rxr> at least the easy transfers still work with my "parallel queue N USB URBs" libusb flavour
15:03 < rxr> submitting urb 0
15:03 < rxr> waitinf for URB 0
15:03 < rxr> marking URB 0x54a3b0 done.
15:03 < rxr> which was the one we have been waiting for.
15:03 < rxr> lets see if it works queining N of them ,-))
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15:09 < rxr> HM
15:21 < rxr> heh
15:21 < rxr> now it survided a scan
15:22 < rxr> heh - the image data even looks correct
15:22 < rxr> submitting urb 7
15:22 < rxr> submitting urb 8
15:22 < rxr> submitting urb 9
15:22 < rxr> waiting for URB 0
15:22 < rxr> marking URB 0x57df00 done.
15:22 < rxr> which was the one we have been waiting for.
15:22 < rxr> waiting for URB 1
15:22 < rxr> marking URB 0x57df38 done.
15:22 < rxr> which was the one we have been waiting for.
15:25 < rxr> hm - maybe slightly faster
15:25 < rxr> if my logs are correct, 0:38.10 vs. 0:23.04
15:27 < rxr> for 56MB of data
15:42 < LMJ> moin moin
15:44 < rxr> yep - scanning 10 A4 pages with color @ 300dpi is 0:47.5s vs. 0:27.4s
15:44 < rxr> impressive
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15:48 < rxr> linux.c | 118 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--------------------------
15:48 < rxr> 1 file changed, 71 insertions(+), 47 deletions(-)
15:56 * rxr booting into evil OS from the garage in Redmond - to stopwatch the windows driver ,-)) cu
15:59 < mnemoc> doh
16:16 < rxr> re
16:16 < rxr> heh
16:16 < rxr> now the windows driver is some seconds slower again ,-)
16:16 < rxr> that is how the world should be ...
16:16 < mnemoc> :)
16:16 < rxr> it needs over 30 seconds for the same set of pages and settings ,-))
16:16 < rxr> on the same Tuion hammer ...
16:21 < mnemoc> :D
16:39 < rxr> Turion ...
16:40 < rxr> hm - now our driver is 4x faster on Linux compared to OS X ... :-((
16:40 < rxr> and 20% faster than Windows ?
16:46 < CIA-18> amery * r15647 /trunk/package/develop/clip/clip.desc: * updated clip (1.1.15-59 -> 1.1.15-64)
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17:02 < mnemoc> rxr: 'just' rewritting usb_urb_transfer() ?
17:03 < owl> re
17:04 < mnemoc> wb owlita
17:05 < owl> thx mnemoc
17:06 < rxr> mnemoc: rewritten so submit sizeof (urb) / MAX_READ_WRITE urbs in parallel
17:06 < rxr> that are 9 in parallel enqueed into the kernel in my use-case
17:12 < mnemoc> :)
17:12 < mnemoc> let see what LKML say about :)
17:26 < rxr> I aksed how many I can enque - e.g. if 64 is valid and they says yes ...
17:26 < rxr> also this parallel thing is what they said I should do instead increasing this 16kB buffer ...
17:27 < rxr> so all is fine - despite the OS X side is even dog slower now - compared to what is possible ...
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17:55 < rxr> cu later
17:56 < mnemoc> cu
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18:22 < _Ragnar_> mnemoc: no
18:23 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: :(
18:24 < _Ragnar_> why?
18:26 < _Ragnar_> should I? :)
18:28 < mnemoc> 2.0.2 is stoped by the lack of feedback about the -rc*
18:48 < rxr> re
18:55 < rxr> K3b 0.12.13
18:56 < _Ragnar_> oh
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19:37 < misl> hi folks
19:38 < rxr> hi misl
19:38 < misl> hi rxr
19:50 < rxr> == 20:04:15 =[0]=> Building base/gcc [4.1.0 2.2.0-alpha].
19:50 < rxr> == 03/02/06 20:16:48 =[0]=> Finished building package gcc.
19:54 < mnemoc> awhat package brings libebook ?
19:54 < mnemoc> rxr: branch?
19:56 < rxr> trunk
19:56 < rxr> but not commited
19:56 < rxr> == 20:24:24 =[1]=> Building base/glibc [20051128 2.2.0-alpha].
19:56 < rxr> == 03/02/06 20:52:24 =[1]=> Finished building package glibc.
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20:23 < rxr> http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/macbookpro.ars
20:32 < morfoh> re
20:32 < rxr> hi morfoh
20:32 < morfoh> hi rxr
20:32 < morfoh> misl: hi moped men :)
20:33 < rxr> ok - n8 all
20:33 < rxr> cu then - hopefully very early ,-)
20:36 < morfoh> rxr: sleep well :)
20:36 < morfoh> rxr: tell susan that she should kick you out of the bed :p
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21:40 < morfoh> wb Baldzius_ :)
21:40 < Baldzius_> hi morfoh :)
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21:41 < morfoh> men ... I missed the "update vandal" :)
21:41 < Baldzius> :)
21:41 < Baldzius> me visited parents for 2w
21:42 < morfoh> hehe ... cool! :) so you left your granny alone ?
21:43 < Baldzius> i had no choise :)
21:44 < morfoh> Baldzius: why ? hope nothing bad happened!
21:45 < morfoh> btw, before you'll starting to vandalize ... libtasn1 0.3.0 gives some problems with gnutls
21:45 < morfoh> but I'm checking it atm ...
21:45 < morfoh> ;)
21:46 < Baldzius> :)
21:47 < Baldzius> no , nothing happened
21:47 < Baldzius> 1. my passport got expired
21:47 < Baldzius> 2. i missed my parents :)
21:48 < Baldzius> last time i saw my dad it was 2y ago
21:48 < Baldzius> hm, no , 1y
21:49 < Baldzius> well, doesn't matter :)
21:49 < morfoh> oh! anyway ... 1 or 2 --- that's a long time
21:49 < Baldzius> yeah, quite ...
21:52 < morfoh> oh! oh! guess I've found the problem with gnutls ... damn package maintainer :p
21:53 < Baldzius> i hope itsn't me :)
21:53 < morfoh> nope me :p
21:56 < morfoh> gnutls includes most needed libs like libtasn1, opencdk, ... and after some symbol changes in libtasn1 0.3.0 it has some problems ... adding a proper .conf file to see if that will fix the problem
22:10 < morfoh> ok ... seems that I'm not "guilty" regarding the gnutls problems :)
22:35 < CIA-18> chris * r15648 /trunk/package/security/libprelude/libprelude.desc: * updated libprelude (0.9.5 -> 0.9.6)
22:50 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15649 /trunk/package/security/openssh/openssh.conf: * hardcoded X11R6 path in our own .conf file O.O
22:53 < _Ragnar_> naughty
22:54 < _Ragnar_> but why does openssh need X11 path?
22:58 < jsaw> _Ragnar_: xauth (X11 forwarding + auth)
22:59 < _Ragnar_> hmmm
22:59 < _Ragnar_> ok I see
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23:13 < keinek> hi
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23:35 < morfoh> hi keinek
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01:07 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15643 /trunk/package/network/dbus/ (dbus.conf dbus.desc dbus.init postsysfiles.in):
01:07 < CIA-18> * updated dbus (0.60 -> 0.61)
01:07 < CIA-18> * copyright updates
01:08 < morfoh> oh! dr.j. still active :)
01:08 < morfoh> hi jsaw btw ;)
01:08 < jsaw> hi morfoh
01:09 < jsaw> but my eyes almost close by themselves
01:09 < morfoh> yeah ... mine too. will go sleep soon
01:12 < mnemoc> professor master dr. J.
01:12 < mnemoc> s/master/guru/
01:12 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15644 /trunk/scripts/config-functions.in: * make pkgsel_parse parse multiple patterns
01:12 < jsaw> hi mnemoc :p
01:12 < mnemoc> i'll go to make my girls sleep.... cu
01:12 < mnemoc> hi jsaw :)
01:12 < jsaw> have fun.......hehe......make your girls sleep ... hehe
01:13 < jsaw> :]
01:13 < mnemoc> :)
01:13 < mnemoc> you have the same amount of girls i have :)
01:13 < morfoh> mnemoc: :)
01:14 < jsaw> mnemoc: and I know how hard that can be once in a while...
01:14 < mnemoc> :D
01:14 < mnemoc> cu
01:14 < morfoh> poor guys :)
01:14 < morfoh> cu mnemoc :)
01:14 < jsaw> morfoh: well, that you have to experience yourself ;)
01:15 < jsaw> huh
01:15 < jsaw> my screen is screwed ... ??? once again ??
01:16 < jsaw> morfoh: (I saw you saying "cu mnemoc :) now how hard that can be once in a while..." and replied...
01:16 < jsaw> bias
01:16 < morfoh> jsaw: I have sometime's to force a little men of almost 3 years to go to bed ... that's enough ... I don't need 3 girls :p
01:17 < morfoh> but I can imagine what kind of tricks they are trying ...
01:17 < jsaw> back
01:17 < morfoh> wb jsaw :)
01:17 < jsaw> morfoh: hehe
01:18 < jsaw> (on tty now, my X is heavily unstable...)
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01:20 < morfoh> yeah ... that are the kind of problems we have before going to sleep ... postfix is segfaulting on 2.1-test
01:20 < morfoh> .oO( poor geeks )o
01:21 < morfoh> even without .cl :p
01:24 < jsaw> ...
01:24 < morfoh> -_-
01:26 < morfoh> -_o
01:26 < morfoh> !> Unknown error: -1210504335
01:26 < morfoh> !> ./postfix-install: line 731: 21848 Segmentation fault
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01:32 < jsaw> morfoh: nice !
01:33 < morfoh> o_-
01:33 < morfoh> jsaw: I guess I've found the problem
01:33 < morfoh> with one eye
01:33 < morfoh> but have to checl
01:33 < morfoh> check
01:34 < jsaw> what is it?
01:34 < morfoh> I think it's a permission problem
01:34 < morfoh> of postfix-install
01:37 < jsaw> ok, but segfault...???
01:37 < morfoh> btw, where is our "update-vandal" ?
01:38 < morfoh> jsaw: yes ... it doesn't fit
01:38 < morfoh> and it's still segfaulting
01:59 < jsaw> echo dream > /sys/power/brain
01:59 < jsaw> cu tomorrow
01:59 < morfoh> jsaw: :)
01:59 < morfoh> sleep well
01:59 < jsaw> thanks, you too
02:00 < morfoh> -_- thanks
02:48 < morfoh> mnemoc: r14102 fixes gsmlib on 2.1-test
02:49 < morfoh> mnemoc: at least it builds now with gcc4.patch
02:49 * morfoh going to sleep
02:49 < morfoh> gn8
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03:02 < morfoh> mnemoc: r12933 fixes audacity for 2.1-test
03:18 < sepp> morfoh speaks while sleeping :)
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05:40 < LMJ> moin moin all
05:40 < owl> hi LMJ
05:41 < owl> moin... you're really a funny person... *still hasn't slept*
05:41 < LMJ> hehe
05:41 < owl> _not_funny
05:41 < LMJ> no, i'm working now, i have to wake up early
05:41 < owl> *gg* working where?
05:42 < LMJ> in the biggest aeronautic company : Latecoere (EADS is european), i'm on the Computer office in the Parent company building
05:43 < owl> hrm. .de?
05:43 < LMJ> sorry, french
05:43 < owl> ah ok.
05:43 < owl> manching would be funny ;)
05:43 < LMJ> i'm the linux guys there, and the 2nd for WAN security and network stuff
05:43 < owl> nice ;)
05:45 < LMJ> so, i have to wake up early
05:45 < owl> would be my dead :)
05:46 < LMJ> it's mine :-/
05:47 < owl> wonderful ;)
05:52 < owl> gn8 ;)
05:57 < LMJ> GTG, see you tonight
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07:07 < Baldzius> moin
07:55 < valentin> moin
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08:37 < rxr_> re
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08:39 < valentin> moin rxr
08:43 < rxr> moin valentin
08:43 < Baldzius> moin valentin rxr
08:44 < valentin> damn f....ng cold in here - no heating and no warm water atm
08:46 < rxr> huh ?
08:46 < rxr> hey Baldzius !
08:46 < valentin> hi Baldzius
08:50 < rxr> whats up with your heating ?
08:50 < valentin> no idea. maybe the pump or the main heat exchanger is broken
08:55 < CIA-18> aldas * r15645 /trunk/package/mail/sylpheed/sylpheed.desc: * updated sylpheed (2.2.0 -> 2.2.1)
09:02 < rxr> Baldzius: nice to see you back - you are all fine ?
09:03 < Baldzius> rxr: yeah, all parts in place :)
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10:39 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15646 /trunk/package/base/gmp/ (autotools.patch gmp.conf gmp.desc sparc.patch):
10:39 < CIA-18> * specialized autogen for gmp to remove wrong dependency paths
10:39 < CIA-18> in .la files
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10:52 < morfoh> moin
10:56 < rxr> moin morfoh
10:58 < morfoh> moin rxr
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11:28 < jsaw> gcc 4.1 released... hey, rxr...
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11:32 < morfoh> moin jsaw
11:33 < jsaw> hi morfoh :)
11:34 < morfoh> :)
11:46 < rxr> jsaw: hyi
11:47 < rxr> jsaw: I have a gcc-4.1 diff here ,-) do you want it ?
11:48 < jsaw> rxr: yes, see query
11:48 < jsaw> hi, btw :)
11:48 < rxr> or the t2 list ,-)
11:49 < jsaw> rxr: please CC to that query address
11:49 < rxr> ouhm ?
11:50 < jsaw> rxr: I was fighting with instabilities of my new system (since two month) and had no time to setup my smtp/imap/http/svn etc. stuff
11:50 < jsaw> yet
11:50 < rxr> instability ?
11:50 < jsaw> X server hangs mostly
11:50 < rxr> uohm
11:51 < rxr> what gfx chip ?
11:51 < jsaw> sis 760GX
11:51 < rxr> hm
11:51 < jsaw> memory is overwritten at the wrong places...
11:52 < rxr> the sis driver got some ugly code - e.g. custom memcpy ...
11:52 < rxr> it should never have made it in the try
11:52 < rxr> but t. winisshoeffer --typos is quite active - maybe just drop him a mail
11:52 < rxr> and/or x.org list
11:53 < jsaw> ic
11:53 < rxr> sending
11:53 < rxr> the libtool-junk removal bits are quitebig
11:54 < jsaw> ?
11:54 < jsaw> oh, gcc,...
11:58 < rxr> that is the RC2
12:05 < rxr> http://www.golem.de/0603/43716.html
12:08 < jsaw> :)
12:14 * rxr finding myself tweaking libusb ...
12:19 < jsaw> rxr: you were right, the memcpy stuff is the problem...
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12:20 < jsaw> I copied the builtin_memcpy into a test program..., everything is alright if copied number & 7 != 0...
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12:24 < jsaw> hmmm
12:32 < rxr> where does it crash - in those memcpy ?
12:32 < jsaw> hmmm. actually no. I have to take deeper look (seems I don't get the code exactly)
12:33 < jsaw> still, there are issues with it
12:33 < jsaw> like having "int" as third argument
12:33 < jsaw> should be unsigned long (or size_t)
12:35 < rxr> 1.7Gccache-x86-64
12:35 < rxr> 155Mccache-x86-64-1
12:35 < rxr> 103Mccache-x86-64-2
12:35 < rxr> 26Mccache-x86-64-x86-64-0
12:36 < jsaw> have to do sth. else, cu later
12:44 < rxr> yeah - me too - improve libusb :-((
12:44 < rxr> and in theory usb handling on Darwin / OS X as well
12:45 < rxr> some more USB days and I fear parts of my stomarch turn over
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14:17 < morfoh> wb mnemoc :)
14:17 < mnemoc> thanks morfoh :)
14:17 < rxr> hi mnemoc
14:18 < mnemoc> oin rxr
14:18 < mnemoc> moin
14:21 < morfoh> mnemoc: I think we shouldn't update to gcc-3.4.5 on 2.1
14:22 < mnemoc> reasons?
14:23 < mnemoc> (ROCK has 3.4.5 on their trunk)
14:24 < morfoh> I think the changes are not worth to update it ...
14:24 < rxr> ? the gcc people have released a regression fixes release for good reasons ...
14:25 < morfoh> ok ... /me is shutting up then ... you're the gcc masters.
14:26 < morfoh> mnemoc: then read your away log ;)
14:27 < mnemoc> was offline, no away log
14:28 < rxr> http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-3.4/changes.html#3.4.5
14:28 < morfoh> mnemoc: then I will merge 2 little changes to fix audacity and gsmlib
14:29 < morfoh> but I wasn't able to find the reason of postfix segfaults while running postfix-install
14:30 < mnemoc> uhm
14:42 < rxr> linux.c | 107 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++------------------------------
14:42 < rxr> 1 file changed, 58 insertions(+), 49 deletions(-)
14:42 < rxr> ^- libusb
14:43 < mnemoc> reindentation?
14:44 < rxr> no - rewriting the damned usb_urb_transfer function
14:44 < mnemoc> oh
14:45 < rxr> in the hope to get more speed out of the kernel
14:45 < rxr> just proof of concept
14:45 < rxr> the windows driver gets 2x out of the recent scanners ... .-(
14:45 < rxr> and os x is even slower
14:45 < mnemoc> oh
14:45 < rxr> if I'm unlucky I'll have to add an additional interface of _async function to libusb and sanei_usb ..
14:46 < rxr> apple even responded to my mail on the usb list within minutes - at least that was impressive ...
14:47 < mnemoc> :)
14:48 < rxr> though if their answer is the only way to speed this up I'll have the above mentioned work to schedule
14:48 < rxr> add an _asnc set of read/write functions to libusb and sanei_usb ...
14:48 < rxr> just to saturate the USB URB queu of their damn slow usb subsystem ...
14:48 < rxr> guess the effect of the lagging mach architecture on the base ..
14:49 < mnemoc> uhm
14:49 < rxr> but that is just a guess ...
14:51 < rxr> but I prototype if this could in theory speed it up under linux - because T2 is the way more relaxing OS to work on - and I can browse what the kernel is doing with my requests ....
14:52 < rxr> last night i even started to edit the Linux USB code ... .-((
14:52 < mnemoc> i hope it works
14:52 < rxr> nope - I discarded that idea due to the sheer mods needed for that case
14:53 < rxr> I decided it is more universal to improve the user-space side - works on old kernels as well and the kernel folks convinced me it would result in the same speed ...
14:53 < rxr> and user-space editing is somewhat more relaxing ,-)))
14:55 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: are you using vserver-2.0.2-rc*?
15:02 < rxr> puh
15:03 < rxr> at least the easy transfers still work with my "parallel queue N USB URBs" libusb flavour
15:03 < rxr> submitting urb 0
15:03 < rxr> waitinf for URB 0
15:03 < rxr> marking URB 0x54a3b0 done.
15:03 < rxr> which was the one we have been waiting for.
15:03 < rxr> lets see if it works queining N of them ,-))
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15:09 < rxr> HM
15:21 < rxr> heh
15:21 < rxr> now it survided a scan
15:22 < rxr> heh - the image data even looks correct
15:22 < rxr> submitting urb 7
15:22 < rxr> submitting urb 8
15:22 < rxr> submitting urb 9
15:22 < rxr> waiting for URB 0
15:22 < rxr> marking URB 0x57df00 done.
15:22 < rxr> which was the one we have been waiting for.
15:22 < rxr> waiting for URB 1
15:22 < rxr> marking URB 0x57df38 done.
15:22 < rxr> which was the one we have been waiting for.
15:25 < rxr> hm - maybe slightly faster
15:25 < rxr> if my logs are correct, 0:38.10 vs. 0:23.04
15:27 < rxr> for 56MB of data
15:42 < LMJ> moin moin
15:44 < rxr> yep - scanning 10 A4 pages with color @ 300dpi is 0:47.5s vs. 0:27.4s
15:44 < rxr> impressive
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15:48 < rxr> linux.c | 118 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--------------------------
15:48 < rxr> 1 file changed, 71 insertions(+), 47 deletions(-)
15:56 * rxr booting into evil OS from the garage in Redmond - to stopwatch the windows driver ,-)) cu
15:59 < mnemoc> doh
16:16 < rxr> re
16:16 < rxr> heh
16:16 < rxr> now the windows driver is some seconds slower again ,-)
16:16 < rxr> that is how the world should be ...
16:16 < mnemoc> :)
16:16 < rxr> it needs over 30 seconds for the same set of pages and settings ,-))
16:16 < rxr> on the same Tuion hammer ...
16:21 < mnemoc> :D
16:39 < rxr> Turion ...
16:40 < rxr> hm - now our driver is 4x faster on Linux compared to OS X ... :-((
16:40 < rxr> and 20% faster than Windows ?
16:46 < CIA-18> amery * r15647 /trunk/package/develop/clip/clip.desc: * updated clip (1.1.15-59 -> 1.1.15-64)
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17:02 < mnemoc> rxr: 'just' rewritting usb_urb_transfer() ?
17:03 < owl> re
17:04 < mnemoc> wb owlita
17:05 < owl> thx mnemoc
17:06 < rxr> mnemoc: rewritten so submit sizeof (urb) / MAX_READ_WRITE urbs in parallel
17:06 < rxr> that are 9 in parallel enqueed into the kernel in my use-case
17:12 < mnemoc> :)
17:12 < mnemoc> let see what LKML say about :)
17:26 < rxr> I aksed how many I can enque - e.g. if 64 is valid and they says yes ...
17:26 < rxr> also this parallel thing is what they said I should do instead increasing this 16kB buffer ...
17:27 < rxr> so all is fine - despite the OS X side is even dog slower now - compared to what is possible ...
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17:55 < rxr> cu later
17:56 < mnemoc> cu
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18:22 < _Ragnar_> mnemoc: no
18:23 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: :(
18:24 < _Ragnar_> why?
18:26 < _Ragnar_> should I? :)
18:28 < mnemoc> 2.0.2 is stoped by the lack of feedback about the -rc*
18:48 < rxr> re
18:55 < rxr> K3b 0.12.13
18:56 < _Ragnar_> oh
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19:37 < misl> hi folks
19:38 < rxr> hi misl
19:38 < misl> hi rxr
19:50 < rxr> == 20:04:15 =[0]=> Building base/gcc [4.1.0 2.2.0-alpha].
19:50 < rxr> == 03/02/06 20:16:48 =[0]=> Finished building package gcc.
19:54 < mnemoc> awhat package brings libebook ?
19:54 < mnemoc> rxr: branch?
19:56 < rxr> trunk
19:56 < rxr> but not commited
19:56 < rxr> == 20:24:24 =[1]=> Building base/glibc [20051128 2.2.0-alpha].
19:56 < rxr> == 03/02/06 20:52:24 =[1]=> Finished building package glibc.
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20:23 < rxr> http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/macbookpro.ars
20:32 < morfoh> re
20:32 < rxr> hi morfoh
20:32 < morfoh> hi rxr
20:32 < morfoh> misl: hi moped men :)
20:33 < rxr> ok - n8 all
20:33 < rxr> cu then - hopefully very early ,-)
20:36 < morfoh> rxr: sleep well :)
20:36 < morfoh> rxr: tell susan that she should kick you out of the bed :p
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21:40 < morfoh> wb Baldzius_ :)
21:40 < Baldzius_> hi morfoh :)
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21:41 < morfoh> men ... I missed the "update vandal" :)
21:41 < Baldzius> :)
21:41 < Baldzius> me visited parents for 2w
21:42 < morfoh> hehe ... cool! :) so you left your granny alone ?
21:43 < Baldzius> i had no choise :)
21:44 < morfoh> Baldzius: why ? hope nothing bad happened!
21:45 < morfoh> btw, before you'll starting to vandalize ... libtasn1 0.3.0 gives some problems with gnutls
21:45 < morfoh> but I'm checking it atm ...
21:45 < morfoh> ;)
21:46 < Baldzius> :)
21:47 < Baldzius> no , nothing happened
21:47 < Baldzius> 1. my passport got expired
21:47 < Baldzius> 2. i missed my parents :)
21:48 < Baldzius> last time i saw my dad it was 2y ago
21:48 < Baldzius> hm, no , 1y
21:49 < Baldzius> well, doesn't matter :)
21:49 < morfoh> oh! anyway ... 1 or 2 --- that's a long time
21:49 < Baldzius> yeah, quite ...
21:52 < morfoh> oh! oh! guess I've found the problem with gnutls ... damn package maintainer :p
21:53 < Baldzius> i hope itsn't me :)
21:53 < morfoh> nope me :p
21:56 < morfoh> gnutls includes most needed libs like libtasn1, opencdk, ... and after some symbol changes in libtasn1 0.3.0 it has some problems ... adding a proper .conf file to see if that will fix the problem
22:10 < morfoh> ok ... seems that I'm not "guilty" regarding the gnutls problems :)
22:35 < CIA-18> chris * r15648 /trunk/package/security/libprelude/libprelude.desc: * updated libprelude (0.9.5 -> 0.9.6)
22:50 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15649 /trunk/package/security/openssh/openssh.conf: * hardcoded X11R6 path in our own .conf file O.O
22:53 < _Ragnar_> naughty
22:54 < _Ragnar_> but why does openssh need X11 path?
22:58 < jsaw> _Ragnar_: xauth (X11 forwarding + auth)
22:59 < _Ragnar_> hmmm
22:59 < _Ragnar_> ok I see
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23:13 < keinek> hi
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23:35 < morfoh> hi keinek
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