T2 IRC Log: 2006-02-19

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--- Log opened Sun Feb 19 00:00:54 2006
01:25 < karasz> cu guys on monday
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03:14 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.1.1 and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/
03:14 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Jan 14 21:42:03 2006]
03:14 [Users #t2]
03:14 [@ChanServ] [ jsaw ] [ LMJ] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly]
03:14 [ axion_ ] [ karasz] [ mtr] [ rxr_] [ valentin ]
03:14 [ CIA-18 ] [ keinek] [ owl] [ sepp] [ _Ragnar_ ]
03:14 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal]
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03:14 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004
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08:57 < rxr_> re
08:58 -!- You're now known as rxr
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09:27 < CIA-18> rene * r15563 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/.fluxbox/ (menu startup):
09:27 < CIA-18> * restored archivista install entry accidently removed in r15553 and
09:27 < CIA-18> removed a debug set -x that slipped in likewise
09:27 < rxr> anyone here ?
09:27 < rxr> valentin: ?
09:27 < _Ragnar_> hi :)
09:29 < rxr> ah - hi ,-)
09:29 < rxr> where has mnemoc got lost ?
09:29 < _Ragnar_> dunno >.<
09:30 < _Ragnar_> 185107 -!- mnemoc [n=amery@201.214.221.21] has joined #t2
09:30 < _Ragnar_> 185217 < mnemoc> i wont have DSL until for at least a week at office :\
09:30 < _Ragnar_> 190339 -!- mnemoc [n=amery@201.214.221.21] has quit ["Download Gaim:
09:30 < rxr> oh
09:33 < rxr> grepping the irc logs for mnemoc revields quite some interesting bits and pieces ,-)
09:33 [Users #t2]
09:33 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-18] [ karasz_] [ mtr] [ rxr ] [ _Ragnar_]
09:33 [ axion_ ] [ jgs__ ] [ LMJ ] [ owl] [ valentin]
09:33 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 11 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 10 normal]
09:35 < _Ragnar_> *lol*
09:36 < rxr> jsaw also got lost - darn
09:37 < rxr> _Ragnar_: how are you ?
09:40 < _Ragnar_> fine thanks :)
09:40 < _Ragnar_> can't complain
09:40 < _Ragnar_> and you?
09:41 < _Ragnar_> what's with jsaw?
09:41 < rxr> nightly dsl recon I thnk
09:42 < _Ragnar_> oh :)
09:42 < rxr> I'm fine as well - right now hacking in Zuerich one again
09:42 < rxr> once
09:42 < _Ragnar_> 8)
09:45 < CIA-18> rene * r15564 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/button-setup.sh:
09:45 < CIA-18> * fixed the archivista/button-setup.sh to make sure av-xevie-sb is not killed
09:45 < CIA-18> by the gnomesu/pty SIGHUP
09:47 < _Ragnar_> :)
10:05 < rxr> gtk+12 combo boxes are really grave - UI-wise
10:08 < CIA-18> rene * r15565 /trunk/package/x11/xdialog/combobox-default-item.patch: * patched xdialog to honnor the default-item specified
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10:27 < sepp> moin
10:27 < rxr> moin sepp
10:28 < sepp> hi rxr
11:01 < CIA-18> rene * r15566 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/kbd.sh:
11:01 < CIA-18> * rewrote archivista/kbd.sh to be magnitudes more userfriendly, with the
11:01 < CIA-18> patched Xdialog automatically choose the last selected entry by default
11:01 < CIA-18> or even select the "Other" button for self-defined ones and work with
11:01 < CIA-18> translation arrays instead of hardcoded case'ing including safety for
11:01 < CIA-18> whitespaces thus allowing "Swiss Italian" instead of the former
11:01 < CIA-18> "SwissItalian" added es/Spanish on the way
11:01 < rxr> hey sepp - how are you ?
11:29 < sepp> i am fine - and you?
11:29 < rxr> fine too
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11:45 < rxr> hi mtr
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12:31 < CIA-18> sebastian * r15567 /trunk/package/e17/enterminus/init.patch: * fixed e17 toy terminal
12:32 < rxr> toy terminal ?
12:33 < sepp> yup - it is not really useable
12:33 < sepp> well, you can type ls into it
12:34 < rxr> heh
12:37 < rxr> http://www.schokokeks.org/impressum.php
12:37 < rxr> somehow all the naming and root@ would not make me buy anything at them ..
12:37 < rxr> from them
12:39 < sepp> :)
12:59 < rxr> valentin: btw. I tried gcc-4.1 snapshot last night
12:59 < rxr> valentin: it does not vectorize ane more loops in exact-image
13:00 < rxr> valentin: and wit my fine tuned optimizations that reach maxed out speed on my Turion 4.1 is slower again
13:00 < rxr> valentin: thogh another set might speed that beast up again ...
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13:47 < rxr> heh
13:48 < rxr> a trivial first test image rotation code for 180 degree is nearly 4 times faster than image magick
13:49 < rxr> did I mention there soon is a competing project to ImageMagick ?
13:49 < rxr> (that is nearly 20 times faster on certain operations ,-))
14:03 < keinek> contratulation rxr ;)
14:03 < keinek> Congratulation*
14:03 < keinek> :P
14:05 < rxr> thank - though still a long way to go
14:06 < rxr> my 1-bit b/w image rotation appears to be about twice as fast as imagemagick
14:12 < rxr> ouhm - or not as much
14:12 < rxr> damn constructing a damned reversed bit table takes quite some cycles
14:12 < rxr> 60
14:16 < rxr> ah - puh
14:16 < rxr> it is twice as fast ,-)
14:17 < rxr> user0m0.412s
14:17 < rxr> user0m1.324s
14:17 < rxr> even 3x,-)
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14:51 < rxr> heh
14:51 < rxr> and trivial 90 degree rotation is also 3 times faster than imagemagick ...
14:51 < rxr> on gray data
14:59 < rxr> with the extremly agressive optimizations I use it is impressive what kind of stuf gcc actually optimized away ...
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15:00 < morfoh> re hi
15:00 < rxr> hi morfoh
15:10 < morfoh> hi rxr
15:17 < morfoh> rxr: how is it today ? ;)
15:17 < rxr> here in zuerich ?
15:17 < rxr> it is fun hacking image processing just to beat imagemagick by factors bigger than 2-3 ,-)
15:18 < morfoh> for example ;)
15:18 < rxr> and making a living out of it ,-)
15:18 < morfoh> and personally ... ? :)
15:18 < morfoh> already came home from my parents place
15:18 < rxr> well - good
15:18 < rxr> thanks - and on your side ?
15:19 < morfoh> besides the fact that my dad is in hospital ... it was quite nice :)
15:19 < rxr> oh
15:19 < morfoh> he is doing well, but he will be operated on tuesday
15:20 < rxr> I hope pressing thumbs then
15:20 < rxr> s/hope/help/ ,-)
15:20 < morfoh> and I was at in the former flat of my grandma, and I found a lot's of interesting things
15:20 < morfoh> rxr: thanks :)
15:21 < morfoh> mostly old books
15:22 < morfoh> but I wasn't able to carry all in my backpack :p
16:14 < karasz_> kommrad
16:14 < karasz_> moin all btw
16:19 < owl> moin
16:19 < karasz_> hello owl
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16:19 < owl> hi karasz
16:25 < karasz> how are you owl?
16:28 < owl> shit. more shit. owl. thx. you?
16:29 < owl> don#t ask why. i just tell so much: i had to go into a hospital and visit a doc.
16:31 < karasz> :(
16:31 < karasz> me?, well dealing with my morons :)
16:31 < owl> hehehe. want some dead? :)
16:31 < karasz> nah
16:31 < karasz> I allready taken care of it :[
16:33 < owl> hihi
16:36 < rxr> hi karasz owl
16:37 < karasz> hello rxr
16:37 < karasz> just the man i wanted to c :)
16:37 < valentin> moin
16:37 < valentin> hi all
16:37 < karasz> rxr, is that right that you take photos?
16:37 < karasz> hi valentin
16:38 < valentin> rxr: do you know Mia's Cafe (or so) in berlin ?
16:38 < valentin> non-smoking and wlan 4 free...
16:38 < valentin> hi karasz
16:41 < rxr> valentin: nope
16:41 < rxr> valentin: cool
16:41 < rxr> valentin: which street ?
16:43 < rxr> karasz: from time to time
16:43 < rxr> karasz: but I do not have a camera that exports raw if you want me to test your new raw package ,-)
16:44 < karasz> not to test, i already tested
16:44 < valentin> rxr: i try to find a website
16:44 < karasz> but i thought that you are interested :D
16:44 < rxr> karasz: any new package is interesting ,-)
16:44 < karasz> right.
16:45 < rxr> my brother's high end mirror reflection (or what the en word is) would be able to save raw I think
16:46 < valentin> http://www.cafe-mia.de/
16:46 < karasz> well, i just thought that it might be interesting to have on T2
16:47 < rxr> karasz: sure ,-)
16:47 < karasz> question: it is wrong to have the -O4 flag on compile, i see that T2 usualy uses -O2...
16:47 < karasz> but the author, for some reason suggests _o4, so I made it that way...
16:48 < rxr> there is no -O4 in gcc
16:48 < karasz> right
16:48 < rxr> and even -O3 does often not yield the best code
16:48 < karasz> i found that interesting...
16:48 < rxr> karasz: this is setable in the expert Config
16:49 < rxr> we have lazy (-O1), speed (-O2) and size (-O2)
16:49 < karasz> strange enough the package compiles and works even if I have -O4 on command line
16:49 < rxr> more could be added on demand
16:49 < rxr> + the option to inject whatever you want to inject
16:49 < rxr> gcc just uses O3 then I think
16:50 < rxr> also the t2 system removed -O options and injects that is selected in T2 ...
16:50 < rxr> thus when built inside T2 the gcc will not set -O4 at all
16:50 < karasz> i guess the author wanted speed since RAW files tend to be quite big...
16:51 * valentin -> savoy-chicken soup
16:52 < karasz> bonapetit valentin
16:52 < karasz> rxr even if it is called directly on the command line?
16:52 < rxr> karasz: when built inside T2 sandbox
16:53 < rxr> when you enter it on your own command line manually gcc get's it
16:53 < karasz> yes, ic bit my .conf has a direct call to gcc since the package is a single C file without Make or configure...
16:53 < rxr> yes but that is run inside the t2 sandbox
16:53 < karasz> ok. ic. thx
16:54 < rxr> inside the sandbox O4 is thrown away and replaced by what is selected in the T2 config
16:54 < karasz> ahum, but maybe it is better if I remove that in the config
16:54 < rxr> karasz: yes, no option would be best ,-)
16:54 * karasz patchin'
17:05 < karasz> :(
17:05 < karasz> again my cache file....
17:25 < karasz> cu guys on monday
17:25 < rxr> cu
17:27 < rxr> heh - my unoptimized rot90 for 1bit b/w is 5 times faster than image magick
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20:02 < rxr> orthogonal rotation in my program for 1bit b/w data only needs 20% of the time of image magick
20:02 < rxr> in other words 5 times faster
20:05 < rxr> ah
20:05 < rxr> and I think I get a feeling where the last known segfault is hiding ,-)
20:11 < rxr> ouhm
20:11 < rxr> yeah - well - 1bit data packed into 8bit is just a PITA to handle ...
20:28 < rxr> so - me off then
20:28 < rxr> cu
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