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00:02 < CIA-18> chris * r15474 /trunk/package/security/strongswan/strongswan.desc: * updated strongswan (2.6.1 -> 2.6.2)
00:03 < morfoh> gn8 folks :)
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04:05 < axion_> my host had a hardware problem and the mirror will return in about a week
04:05 < axion_> sorry
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07:20 < rxr> re
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07:33 < morfoh> moin moin
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08:28 < madtux> hey.
08:28 < morfoh> hola señor :)
08:29 < madtux> Hallo morfoh :)
08:29 < madtux> Wie geht es dir mein freund ?
08:29 < morfoh> hi madtux ... how you doing ? :)
08:29 < madtux> mir es gut danke, und dir?
08:29 < morfoh> madtux: mir geht es gut ... :)
08:30 < madtux> glad to hear :)
08:30 < morfoh> madtux: do you learn german or do you have coded a translation robot ?
08:30 < madtux> learn.
08:31 < morfoh> hehe :)
08:32 < morfoh> any news regarding the election ? couldn't read my newspaper for 3 days :/
08:34 < madtux> no change yet..
08:34 < valentin> moin
08:34 < morfoh> ah ... ic. 
08:34 < morfoh> moin valentin 
08:34 < valentin> hi morfoh and madtux 
08:38 < madtux> moin valentin 
08:43 < rxr> moin miguel
08:44 < morfoh> good morning rxr 
08:45 < madtux> hallo Rene
08:45 < valentin> moin rxr
08:49 < rxr> the windows cygwin terminal emulator has some grave drawing issues ...
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09:18 < LMJ> moin moin
09:18 < morfoh> bonjour serwou :)
09:18 < LMJ> bonjour morfoh ;
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09:24 < rxr_> ouhm
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09:24  * rxr will be some days in the switzerland again the next days ...
09:31 < valentin> after embedded systems ?
09:39 < rxr> yes
09:52 < morfoh> rxr: when does the "embedded systems" start ?
09:58 < rxr> today
09:58 < rxr> and goes 3 days ...
09:59 < rxr> 14-16
10:00 < rxr> so - will be in the swiss from 16-monday ...
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11:29 < morfoh> bbl ... 
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11:40 < CIA-18> rene * r15475 /trunk/package/graphic/scribus/scribus.conf: * basically fixed scribus for lib64 arches
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12:00 < CIA-18> rene * r15476 /trunk/package/graphic/scribus/scribus.conf: * further fixed scribus for lib64, additionally needs --enable-libsuffix
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13:29 < rxr_> so
13:30 < rxr_> we are off to the bank then in some seconds
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13:34 < mnemoc> good luck rxr :)
13:35 < rxr> hi mnemoc 
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13:46 < morfoh> re hi
13:49 < mnemoc> wb morfoh 
13:52 < morfoh> hehe ... hi mnemoc :)
13:58 < morfoh> f* ... have to reboot again
13:58 < morfoh> brb :)
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14:07 < morfoh> re :)
14:07 < morfoh> mnemoc: /dev/sda1               /media/Samsung          vfat    user,exec,noauto,managed 0 0
14:08 < morfoh> ^ my USB stick :)
14:09 < mnemoc> hal/dbus?
14:10 < morfoh> yep :)
14:28 < CIA-18> aldas * r15477 /trunk/package/kde/smb4k/smb4k.desc: * updated smb4k (0.6.5 -> 0.6.7)
14:31 < CIA-18> aldas * r15478 /trunk/package/zope/zwiki/zwiki.desc: * updated zwiki (0.49.0 -> 0.50.0)
14:32 < morfoh> Baldzius: hi "vandalizing" gun boy :)
14:32 < CIA-18> aldas * r15479 /trunk/package/database/sqlite/sqlite.desc: * updated sqlite (3.3.3 -> 3.3.4)
14:32 < Baldzius> hi morfoh :)
14:33 < morfoh> hi Baldzius :)
14:34 < CIA-18> aldas * r15480 /trunk/package/database/postgresql/postgresql.desc: * updated postgresql (8.1.2 -> 8.1.3)
14:36 < CIA-18> aldas * r15481 /trunk/package/network/quagga/compile-fix.patch: * removed quagga/compile-fix.patch - obsolete
14:38 < CIA-18> aldas * r15482 /trunk/package/graphic/pixie/ (pixie.conf pixie.desc): * updated pixie (1.5.5 -> 1.5.7)
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15:10 < sepp> hello
15:15 < morfoh> hi sepp
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15:16 < sepp> hi morfoh :)
15:16 < morfoh> :)
15:54 < mnemoc> rehi, does anyone has time to branch nvidia package to give support for gforce2 and older nvidia cards on 2.2?
15:57 < morfoh> mnemoc: hmmm ... I doubt that I will have time today, but can you explain it a bit more detailed ?
15:59 < mnemoc> 8xxx series (current nvidia package at trunk) doesn't support gforce2 and older nvidia cards
15:59 < mnemoc> 7xxx series (current nvidia package at 2.1) support any nvidia card
16:00 < mnemoc> and gforce 2 is the most modern video card i have ever touch :p
16:00 < morfoh> mnemoc: so we "just" have to create 2 packages ... 
16:00 < morfoh> mnemoc: :)
16:01 < mnemoc> svn co nvidia nvidia-legacy
16:01 < mnemoc> cp
16:01 < mnemoc> svn revert nvidia-legacy to 7xxx ages
16:01 < mnemoc> fix them to cohexist
16:01 < mnemoc> and improve xcfgt2.sh to understand the difference
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16:06 < nzg> moin
16:08 < morfoh> moin nzg
16:08 < morfoh> mnemoc: I can try ... but I'll not use my old gforce2 for testing :p
16:09 < morfoh> already closed my pc case ;)
16:10 < mnemoc> wb nzg 
16:10 < morfoh> mnemoc: btw, is that very urgent ?
16:12 < mnemoc> kind of, but when the time comes i'll have to do it myself
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16:29 < rxr_> re
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16:33 < mnemoc> happy banking?
16:34 < rxr_> and happy shopping 
16:34 < rxr_> 290g/m2 paper and a paper cutter
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16:34 < mnemoc> oh
16:35 < mnemoc> for "embedded systems" thing?
16:35 < mnemoc> wb jsaw 
16:35 < rxr_> now I wonder if I get this 290g/m2 paper thru my color laser :-(((
16:35 < rxr_> damned - officially the spec says 160g/m2 max
16:35 < mnemoc> heh
16:36 < mnemoc> outch
16:36 < LMJ> hehe rxr
16:36 < mnemoc> and why did you buy this 290g paper?
16:36 < rxr_> Thick stock: 24 - 90 lb. Index (90 - 163 g/m2)
16:36 < jsaw> .oO(ping irc.freenode.net: unknown host ?????)
16:36 < jsaw> hi all
16:36 < rxr_> mnemoc: I did not know off hand - and they only had 160 or so and 290 ...
16:37 < LMJ> it's not a paper, it's a cardboard
16:37  * rxr_ wanted 220g/m2 ...
16:37 < mnemoc> LMJ: :)
16:38 < rxr_> hi jsaw 
16:38 < LMJ> "can i put a 10mm piece of wood in my laser print" ?
16:38 < LMJ> LOL
16:38 < jsaw> seems they blocked freenode.net at the institute...
16:39 < mnemoc> we could set cgi:irc somewhere
16:39 < jsaw> oh, np, I have a computer at home :)
16:40 < mnemoc> :)
16:40 < morfoh> hi jsaw :)
16:40 < jsaw> I just wonder about this stupidity...
16:40 < morfoh> jsaw: paranoia admins :p
16:41 < morfoh> jsaw: you're wasting too much bandwidth with your irc sessions :)
16:41 < jsaw> no, Max-Planck-Society paranoia
16:41 < jsaw> morfoh: oh, right, bandwidth
16:41 < morfoh> :)
16:41 < morfoh> guess MPG is quite poor :p
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16:43 < rxr_> ouhm
16:44 < rxr_> on it's maxmal force it goes thru ,-)
16:44 < rxr_> crazzy ...
16:44 < rxr_> and I better soon get thinner paper ,-)
16:46 < mnemoc> not clogged yet?
16:46 < rxr_> clooged?
16:46 < rxr_> gged  even
16:46 < rxr_> no idea - /me in need of a dict
16:47 < sepp> "verstopft" like a wc :)
16:48 < mnemoc> rxr_: i needed a dict to get that word :p
16:52 < rxr_> mnemoc: hahaha
16:52 < rxr_> sepp: lol
16:52 < rxr_> mnemoc: nope - got thru - slowly with a sound that does not sound that good
16:52 < rxr_> as driver outside it's specification ,-)
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16:55 < n00bhead> hi folks !
16:56 < mnemoc> hi n00bhead 
16:56 < n00bhead> to get the iso of a minimal system, am i right in folder epsilon on ftp ? or did I miss something?
16:56 < mnemoc> to get a minimal iso from the development branch, yes
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17:03 < n00bhead> didnt find it in stable... am I just blind?^^
17:04  * rxr praying that inkscape and all it's depends built on x86-64 n...
17:04 < rxr> n00bhead: what are you lookig for ?
17:05 < n00bhead> the minimal system install cd
17:05 < n00bhead> iso, even
17:05 < rxr> for 2.1 or 2.2-devel ?
17:05 < n00bhead> found the unstable (development branch)
17:05 < rxr> well - the unstable branch is quite fine, and marked stable soon as well
17:06 < n00bhead> what is the difference? is development very buggy or can I dare to install it? my first t2 ^^
17:06 < rxr> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/ftp/t2/stable/2.1.1/
17:06 < rxr> ^- stable minimal is here
17:06 < n00bhead> ah ok thx
17:06 < n00bhead> I'll try it.
17:07 < n00bhead> mnemoc rxr thanks and bye
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17:10 < mnemoc> yuck, axion box revived but empty o_O
17:10 < mnemoc> axion_: you there?
17:11 < mnemoc> i took a week to populate that mirror :'(
17:18 < rxr> ooo
17:22 < CIA-18> chris * r15483 /trunk/package/x11/nvidia-legacy/ (7 files): * branched out nvidia-legacy from nvidia package and downdated it from (1.0-8178 -> 1.0-7676) to support gforce2 and older nvidia cards
17:23 < morfoh> mnemoc: this was just the first step ... as you can imagine. but I have to go now. can continue the work later this evening
17:24 < mnemoc> thanks morfoh :)
17:25 < morfoh> mnemoc: yeah ... yw ;) and thanks for the help :)
17:25 < mnemoc> :)
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17:52 < CIA-18> amery * r15484 /trunk/package/network/netboot/ (. netboot.desc): * added netboot (0.10) - tools to make images to boot from network
18:30 < rxr> hm - I feel muchy ...
18:35 < mnemoc> muchy? /dict
18:36 < _Ragnar_> mushy? munchy? :)
18:36 < mnemoc> /dict anyway :p
18:55 < rxr>  /dict ?
18:56 < mnemoc> i have /leo /dict and /google :p
18:56 < rxr> omg
18:56 < mnemoc> /leo query dict.leo.org
18:56 < rxr> so - I know have 6 of this 290g sheet thrown thru the laser ,-)
18:56 < mnemoc> /dict dictionary.com
18:57 < mnemoc> and /google... google
18:57 < rxr> and 60 new vcards - that I have to cut know
18:57 < rxr> why the new offices' paper cutter ,-)
18:57 < mnemoc> :)
18:57 < rxr> and the next cards will not go on 290g/m2 paper ,-)
18:57 < mnemoc> highly professional
18:58 < rxr> what ? the self printing ?
18:58 < rxr> the last vcars have been to expensive
18:58 < rxr> with a color laser and investment into a pro sheet cutter it will look the same ...
18:58 < mnemoc> self printing on monster laser with that heavy paper should look cool
18:59 < rxr> well - my test cut's have not been perfect
18:59 < rxr> I hope with some practice it will be better
18:59 < rxr> well - I once in my life have been a trained, pro technical draft person / CAD guru ... - I know some paper handling stuff ,-)
19:00 < mnemoc> i have noticed :p
19:03 < rxr> damn 290g paper
19:03  * rxr need to order a bunch of 200g one - and new color toner ,-)
19:07 < mnemoc> :)
19:30 < valentin> hi
19:30 < valentin> rxr: busy printing pr material ?
19:32 < rxr> valentin: nope vcards ,-)
19:32 < rxr> but done now
19:33 < CIA-18> amery * r15485 /branches/2.1-test/package/base/sysfiles/stone_mod_install.sh: * improved `stone install` to hide bogus disc devices found at /dev/discs/
19:33 < mnemoc> monster laser printer survived 3kg/m^2 paper
19:33 < rxr> mnemoc: ?
19:33 < rxr> mnemoc: ?
19:33 < mnemoc> 15485?
19:34 < mnemoc> since a few months bootdisk gets about 300 bogus discs (md/*)
19:34 < rxr> oh
19:34 < rxr> ok
19:35 < CIA-18> sebastian * r15486 /trunk/package/graphic/pixie/pixie.desc: * downdated pixie to 1.4.7 - added update comment for aldas :)
19:35 < rxr> but still that was "just" 290g/m^2 not 3kg/m^2 paper ,-)
19:35 < mnemoc> that is 'unconfortable' when you play with the partitions on stone install
19:35 < mnemoc> hehe
19:35 < rxr> mnemoc: definetly ,-)
19:35 < rxr> .o(and this time my cell # on the card is correct ,-)
19:36 < mnemoc> good strategy
19:36 < rxr> though I doubt there are many that try the cell # on the first conact try ,-)
19:36 < rxr> so - we out for a dinner - cu
19:37 < rxr> and after that soon off to bed due emedded word early morning flight
19:37 < valentin> cu rxr
19:38 < rxr> hm
19:38 < rxr> I have the feeling in addition to the damn linksys ap ...
19:38 < rxr> ... the dsl cable get a bit defect in the are we continously walk over it ...
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19:40 < rxr_> 19:38 < rxr> hm
19:40 < rxr_> 19:38 < rxr> I have the feeling in addition to the damn linksys ap ...
19:40 < rxr_> 19:38 < rxr> ... the dsl cable get a bit defect in the are we continously walk 
19:40 < rxr_>              over it ...
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19:41 < valentin> mnemoc: i think susann might come with him
19:41 < mnemoc> [16:39:52] <rxr> and after that soon off to bed due emedded word early morning flight
19:41 < mnemoc> [16:40:07] <valentin> and much fun there
19:41 < mnemoc> [16:40:15] <mnemoc> 259 bogus md/* discs, not 300
19:41 < mnemoc> [16:40:45] <mnemoc> going alone?
19:41 < mnemoc> :)
19:42 < rxr_> me ?
19:42 < rxr_> no with susan
19:43 < rxr_> ah - yes embeded world also with susan
19:43 < rxr_> cu
19:43 < mnemoc> cu :)
19:43 < valentin> cu
19:44 < mnemoc> cu next week :\
19:44 < valentin> how long will he be in sw ?
19:44 < valentin> ch even ?
19:45 < mnemoc> until money afaik
19:45 < mnemoc> monday :p
19:46 < valentin> well, i guess he will be connected there
19:51  * sepp tested new rt2x00 wlan card driver - works much better now, and just to be safe it sends 1 of 3 packages twice :D
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20:45 < morfoh> re
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20:50 < veki> hi,hiw are you
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20:52 < morfoh> hi mtr :)
20:53 < mnemoc> OOO_LANGS='es en-US'
20:53 < mnemoc> OOO_LANGS_LIST='es en-US'
20:53 < mnemoc> OOO_LANG_TARBALL=ooa680-m1-lang.tar.bz2
20:53 < mnemoc> finally bi-lang ooo is building
20:53 < morfoh> mnemoc: :)
20:54 < mnemoc> ALL_LANGS='en-US af ar be-BY bg br bn bn-BD bn-IN bs ca cs cy da de el en-GB en-ZA eo es et eu fi fr ga gl gu-IN he hi-IN hr hu it ja km kn-IN ko lo lt lv mk ms ne nb nl nn nr ns pa-IN pl pt pt-BR ru rw sk sl sh-YU sr-CS ss st sv sw sw-TZ sx ta-IN th tn tr ts ve vi xh zh-CN zh-TW zu'
20:54 < mnemoc> these are the supported UI languages
20:54 < mnemoc> i think a good default could be 'en-US de es fr it'
20:56 < morfoh> mnemoc: ack
20:56 < mnemoc> which are the 'official europe languages'?
20:57 < morfoh> mnemoc: I think this is a quite good collection     ^
20:58 < mnemoc> Baldzius can add 'lt' on his working copy :p
20:58 < morfoh> mnemoc: poor vandal :p
20:59 < morfoh> mnemoc: if he fixes xfce-term you can add it :p
20:59 < mnemoc> deal :)
20:59 < morfoh> mnemoc: .oO( damn ... we're nasty )o
21:00 < jsaw> (jsaw tests patch for xfce-term right now)
21:00 < mnemoc> you would win a hug
21:00 < morfoh> jsaw: tell mnemoc what ooo lang do you want to have :p
21:01 < mnemoc> is 'en-US de es fr it' a good default? more? less?
21:01  * mnemoc wonders how to do the same on mozilla
21:01 < morfoh> mnemoc: it _is_ good :)
21:01 < jsaw> I only need en, but what's about portuguese?
21:01 < sepp> no "nu" support - so no saxon ooo :)
21:01 < jsaw> hmm
21:02 < mnemoc> and we start getting all of them
21:02 < mnemoc> jsaw: so pt too?
21:02 < jsaw> I'd say pt, too
21:02 < jsaw> but, don't know...
21:03 < morfoh> and nl and ...
21:03 < valentin> mnemoc: official languages for EU: Czech, Danish, Dutch, English, Estonian, Finnish, French, German, Greek, Hungarian, Italian, Latvian, Lithuanian, Maltese, Polish, Portuguese, Slovak, Slovene, Spanish, Swedish
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21:05 < valentin> like in schleswig hollstein where they have this friesen and daenen stuff
21:05 < jsaw> platt...
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21:06 < sepp> :)
21:06 < jsaw> Ik have mol in Hamburg n veermastern seen... (or something like that)
21:07 < valentin> however, wiki only lists german as german official language
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21:15 < valentin> So sind in Schleswig-Holstein die Behörden verpflichtet, Anfragen und Anträge auf ?Plattdeutsch? nicht nur zu bearbeiten, sondern auch auf ?Plattdeutsch? zu beantworten. Der Bundesgerichtshof hat festgestellt, dass auch Patentanträge beim Bundespatentamt in München auf Plattdeutsch gestellt werden können.
21:15 < sepp> wow
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21:16 < valentin> lol, i guess that is the real reason for keeping platt as official language :)
21:16 < valentin> fogging trivial patents by using obsolete language
21:17 < morfoh> valentin: I think plattdeutsch is still quite common in some areas 
21:17 < valentin> morfoh: yes. i lived in one such area
21:17 < sepp> no - 10 years ago i had 4 "users" of this language in my family
21:17 < morfoh> valentin: me too
21:17 < morfoh> I was born in such an area
21:17 < valentin> but i met noone under 80 who used it as active language
21:18 < morfoh> my father is under 80
21:18 < valentin> and he speaks real platt ? wow
21:18 < morfoh> yep
21:18 < morfoh> his grandma was writing poems on platt and published some books
21:18 < morfoh> on plattdeutsch
21:19 < valentin> never understood much platt, since i was born in the south of the republic
21:19 < valentin> but somehow got used to it
21:19 < mnemoc> valentin: bavarian? :)
21:19 < valentin> mnemoc: NO !!!
21:19 < valentin> :)
21:19 < mnemoc> wherE?
21:19 < valentin> mnemoc: no, born in the wineyard :)
21:19 < mnemoc> -var_append confopt ' ' "--with-lang=$ooo_lang"
21:20 < mnemoc> +var_append confopt ' ' "'--with-lang=\"\$ooo_lang\"'"
21:20 < valentin> mnemoc: Rhineland-Palatinate
21:20 < mnemoc> ^---- after almost an hour trying to get a good quoting
21:21 < valentin> (needed to look up the name in english first...)
21:21 < mnemoc> valentin: wikipedia doesn't know your birth city
21:21 < valentin> mnemoc: ?
21:21 < valentin> R.P. is a federal state
21:21 < mnemoc> wineyard
21:21 < valentin> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhineland-Palatinate
21:21 < mnemoc> ok ok
21:21 < mnemoc> my fault
21:22 < valentin> i meant "i was born in a wine growing area"
21:22 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15487 /trunk/package/base/libusb/compile.patch: * fix for 64bit
21:22 < mnemoc> yes, on the send read i understood what you say
21:22 < mnemoc> s/send/secodn/
21:22 < mnemoc> second
21:22 < valentin> hehe
21:23 < valentin> this is, where much of my family live: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neustadt_(Weinstraße)
21:23 < valentin> life
21:23 < jsaw> ?
21:23 < sepp> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenzlau <- hehe wikipedia is a real garbage can 
21:23 < mnemoc> you are almost a frenchie :)
21:23 < valentin> jsaw: ?
21:23 < morfoh> mnemoc: almost ?
21:24 < jsaw> valentin: life <-> live
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21:24 < valentin> jsaw: sorry
21:24 < valentin> to tired now :)
21:24 < jsaw> wtf, sambe checks ifconfig ???
21:24 < jsaw> samba
21:25 < mnemoc> ??
21:25 < mnemoc> i haven't had ifconfig since.... 2000? on any machine
21:25 < jsaw> checking for iface ifconf... got 2 interfaces:
21:25 < jsaw> eth0       IP=192.168.178.27 NETMASK=255.255.255.0
21:25 < jsaw> lo         IP=127.0.0.1 NETMASK=255.0.0.0
21:25 < valentin> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Südliche_Weinstraße <- that is the more correct district
21:26 < jsaw> and, why does samba build many tools static...?
21:26 < mnemoc> valentin: so you are a frenchie :)
21:27 < morfoh> mnemoc: as I told you 
21:27 < valentin> hm, not realy :)
21:27 < mnemoc> morfoh: :)
21:27 < valentin> my frensh is as good as mnemoc's german i guess
21:28 < morfoh> mnemoc: :)
21:28 < mnemoc> my german is better than my italian, i have a passport claiming i'm from there :p
21:28 < jsaw> mnemoc: and you call europe "freak" ????
21:28 < mnemoc> :)
21:29 < jsaw> ;)
21:29 < valentin> :)
21:41 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15488 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-terminal/ (compile.patch xfce4-terminal.desc): 
21:41 < CIA-18> * fix xfce4-terminal
21:41 < CIA-18> * copyright updates
21:41 < morfoh> Baldzius: so I guess no .lt in ooo now 
21:42 < jsaw> hehe
21:44 < Baldzius> :)
21:44 < Baldzius> jsaw: what libexo version you have?
21:44 < jsaw> 0.3.0
21:44 < jsaw> too old?
21:45 < Baldzius> hm, no, terminal compiled without patch for me
21:45 < Baldzius> strange
21:45 < jsaw> 64bit?
21:45 < Baldzius> no :)
21:45 < Baldzius> 32
21:47 < mnemoc> uhm?
21:47 < mnemoc> terminal-shortcut-editor.c: In function 'is_modifier':
21:47 < mnemoc> terminal-shortcut-editor.c:260: error: 'XModifierKeymap' undeclared (first use in this function)
21:47 < mnemoc> terminal-shortcut-editor.c:260: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
21:48 < mnemoc> terminal-shortcut-editor.c:260: error: for each function it appears in.)
21:48 < mnemoc> terminal-shortcut-editor.c:260: error: 'keymap' undeclared (first use in this function)
21:48 < mnemoc> terminal-shortcut-editor.c:264: error: 'gdk_display' undeclared (first use in this function)
21:48 < mnemoc> make[4]: *** [Terminal-terminal-shortcut-editor.o] Error 1
21:48 < mnemoc> i get that
21:48 < jsaw> mnemoc: with my patch?
21:49 < jsaw> what's the difference between libvncserver and x11vnc?
21:49 < mnemoc> jsaw: i'll try now
21:49 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15489 /trunk/package/x11/libvncserver/ (libvncserver.desc no-x11vnc.patch): * update libvncserver (0.7.1 -> 0.8)
21:51 < Baldzius> mnemoc: this error is due svn libexo
21:52 < jsaw> this error is corrected with my patch...
21:52 < Baldzius> in that case i should revert the revert :)
21:52 < jsaw> o.O
21:53 < jsaw> Baldzius: it's only a missing include, but  I took the easy way and included gdk/gdk.h ...
21:53 < Baldzius> jsaw: svn log package/*/libexo
21:53 < jsaw> ic
21:57 < mnemoc> ehm
21:57 < mnemoc> so what should i revert now?
22:00 < Baldzius> nothing, 15381 still breaks terminal or at least for me
22:02 < morfoh> Baldzius: so it seems you get a second chance for .lt
22:03 < jsaw> Baldzius: are you sure it is not libexo that is broken?
22:03 < Baldzius> morfoh: i prefer .eng :)
22:04 < Baldzius> jsaw: trying now in chroot i'll see what i get there
22:08 < morfoh> Baldzius: I know ... most vandals do
22:09 < morfoh>  because you can blame it on the language, because it's not your native ones :)
22:10 < morfoh> .oO( seems that Baldzius was caught in the chroot cage )o
22:10 < morfoh> someone jailed the "trunk-vandal" :)
22:12 < Baldzius> i am free and alive :)
22:12 < morfoh> perhaps it was our "dictator"
22:12  * morfoh hides 
22:12 < Baldzius> jsaw : i am sure that 15381 breaks xfce4-terminal
22:12 < morfoh> Baldzius: good to hear :)
22:13 < Baldzius> and i am sure that xfce4-terminal compiles even without your patch
22:13 < Baldzius> for me
22:13 < jsaw> hmmm
22:13 < jsaw> I get the error mnemoc pasted
22:13 < Baldzius> HEAD
22:13 < jsaw> on HEAD, yes
22:14 < Baldzius> i get also that error but with 15381
22:14 < jsaw> r15488 included?
22:15 < Baldzius> yes
22:16  * Baldzius is lost ..
22:16 < jsaw> o.O
22:18 < Baldzius> well what i know that starting 15434 xfce4-terminal compiles for me again
22:19 < jsaw> on a fresh chroot build?
22:20 < Baldzius> not fresh but chroot, rescheduled libexo
22:20 < jsaw> smells like dependency problem
22:20 < Baldzius> 'k i'll test it once more
22:20 < jsaw> Baldzius: diff libexo's cache versus t2's
22:31 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15490 /trunk/package/x11/x11vnc/ (system-lib.patch x11vnc.desc): 
22:31 < CIA-18> * disable x11vnc (it's all in libvncserver, and more)
22:31 < CIA-18> * update x11vnc still (0.7.2 -> 0.8)
22:31 < CIA-18> * copyright updates
22:34 < mnemoc> yuck, have anyone tested evolution?
22:34 < jsaw> not yet
22:35 < jsaw> but, what's wrong with pixie version 1.5.*?
22:35 < mnemoc> at least the one at 2.1 crash before showing anything
22:35 < jsaw> this happens for me for firefox...
22:35 < jsaw> (athlon64)
22:36 < mnemoc> this happens to me for pmmx on a p2 :\
22:36 < Baldzius> jsaw: -dbus +setuptools
22:37 < jsaw> Baldzius: what?
22:37 < jsaw> oh
22:37 < jsaw> right
22:37 < jsaw> Baldzius: huh
22:38 < Baldzius> svn libexo has bigger diff
22:39 < mnemoc> jsaw: same error after your patch with libexo-svn
22:40 < jsaw> hmmm, here,  libexo-0.3.0 cache diff: -dbus +file -gawk +gnue-common +inputproto +kbproto +pyobject +rat +renderproto +setuptools -xmkmf
22:40 < jsaw> o.O
22:40 < Baldzius> hm
22:40 < mnemoc> python
22:40 < mnemoc> python includes every python packages as a dep of every python package
22:41 < mnemoc> becaus of it's way to find modules
22:42 < jsaw> mtr: vdr fails:
22:42 < jsaw> !> cp: cannot stat `./PLUGINS/lib/*': No such file or directory
22:44 < jsaw> oh, it fails sooner... relocation R_X86_64_32S...fails
22:46 < Baldzius> ok i am tottaly lost, everything compiles for me and i don't understand what the problem is :)
22:50 < mnemoc> Baldzius: thunar too?
22:51 < Baldzius> mnemoc: no, it needs > libexo-0.3.0
22:51 < jsaw> ?
22:52 < jsaw> harhar
22:52 < Baldzius> mnemoc: can you look at cvm
22:52 < Baldzius> jsaw: thunar needs at least libexo-0.3.1
22:52 < mnemoc> i thought you where trying to make terminal run with thunar's exo
22:58 < jsaw> AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
22:59 < mnemoc> ?
22:59 < jsaw> ls -la build/default-2.2.0-alpha-x86-64-athlon64-generic/usr/lib64/libshadow.so
22:59 < jsaw> build/default-2.2.0-alpha-x86-64-athlon64-generic/usr/lib64/libshadow.so -> /user/t2/trunk/build/default-2.2.0-alpha-x86-64-athlon64-generic/lib64/libshadow.so
23:00 < mnemoc> ln -sf is evil :)
23:00 < mnemoc> == 02/14/06 20:02:21 =[5]=> Finished building package cvm.
23:01 < Baldzius> hm
23:01 < CIA-18> amery * r15491 /trunk/package/security/cvm/cvm.conf: * fixed cvm by adding bglibs' bindir to PATH and changed to use pkgprefix
23:02 < Baldzius> :)
23:02 < mnemoc> Baldzius: does ooo build for you on trunk?
23:05 < morfoh> gn8 ... folks
23:05 < Baldzius> mnemoc: never tried , i always keep it disabled by default :)
23:05 < Baldzius> gn8 morfoh
23:06 < morfoh> I "just" have to tell the rat that he has to sleep in the cage tonight
23:06 < morfoh> and he prefers to fight with me till now
23:06 < Baldzius> :)))
23:07 < morfoh> little MF
23:07 < Baldzius> at least not vandal like me :)
23:08 < mnemoc> the rat ate an egg to poor morfoh 
23:09 < Baldzius> the rat has learned a game for movie : "catch me if you can ..."
23:10 < Baldzius> s/for/from/
23:11 < morfoh> Baldzius: bot "catch me if you can ..." ... it's more like "fight club"
23:11 < morfoh> not
23:12 < morfoh> he tried to bite and beat me
23:12 < morfoh> litt a**hole
23:12 < Baldzius> :)
23:12 < mnemoc> f* evolution!
23:12 < morfoh> mnemoc: ack
23:12 < Baldzius> mnemoc: agree
23:13 < Baldzius> sylpheed forever
23:13 < mnemoc> i need one with calendar
23:15 < morfoh> so ... f* rat is in the cage now ... finally. good night :)
23:16 < morfoh> mnemoc: try k* :p
23:16  * morfoh hides
23:16 < Baldzius> gn8 terminator morfoh :)
23:17 < morfoh> Baldzius: no! thanks ... no governator ! :p
23:17 < Baldzius> :)
23:17 < mnemoc> i guess i'll try sunbird
23:17 < morfoh> but I never had that problems before with the little a**h*le
23:18 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15492 /trunk/scripts/functions.in: 
23:18 < CIA-18> * when moving .la's from /lib* to /usr/lib*, always recreate
23:18 < CIA-18>  .so link
23:26 < morfoh> bye
23:26 < jsaw> cu morfoh 
23:26 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15493 /trunk/package/kde/kdeadmin/libtool-fix.patch: 
23:26 < CIA-18> * libtool-fix.patch is not needed (anymore?)
23:26 < CIA-18>  (and was not correct for /lib${libsuff} anyway)
23:26 < morfoh> cu jsaw ... tomorrow ;)
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