--- Log opened Fri Feb 10 00:00:59 2006 00:10 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15388 /trunk/misc/vserver/ (9 files in 3 dirs): * initial implementation of a vserver installer tool 00:26 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15389 /trunk/misc/vserver/patterns/ (socklog stone): * add stone and socklog patterns 00:31 < morfoh> jsaw: do you have any ideas why udev with prio 187.500 isn't build before hotplug++ with 187.600 ? 00:31 < jsaw> stage? 00:31 < morfoh> 1 00:31 < jsaw> both? 00:32 < morfoh> both what ? sorry ... :) 00:32 < jsaw> do they have both the "1" in the [P] tag 00:32 < morfoh> yep ... of course :) 00:33 < jsaw> and no .err file left? 00:33 < morfoh> I did a full cleanup 00:35 * morfoh is wondering why he is getting so much mysterious problems since days ... :) 00:36 < jsaw> show me an 'fgrep [P]' of both files 00:37 < morfoh> fgrep [P] package/filesystem/udev/udev.desc 00:37 < morfoh> [P] X -1---5---9 187.500 00:37 < morfoh> fgrep [P] package/base/hotplug++/hotplug++.desc 00:37 < morfoh> [P] X -1---5---9 187.600 00:38 < jsaw> now check the respective config/$config/packages file 00:38 < jsaw> if both are enabled 00:38 < morfoh> X -1---5---- 187.500 filesystem udev 083 / base/system base/kernel DIETLIBC 0 00:38 < morfoh> X -1---5---- 102.040 base hotplug++ 0.0.5 / base/system DIETLIBC 0 00:38 < morfoh> uhm ? 00:39 < jsaw> ./scripts/Config -cfg $config -oldconfig 00:39 < morfoh> hmmm ... I thought I ran oldconfig ... 00:39 < morfoh> jsaw: thanks ... and sorry :) 00:40 < jsaw> np :) 00:40 < morfoh> jsaw: should better go sleep to be fit tomorrow at my meeting at the TU :) 00:40 < jsaw> yeah 00:40 < jsaw> and I should do sth. else... 00:41 < morfoh> for example :) 00:42 < jsaw> (writing a paper...) 00:42 < morfoh> fortunately I finished my work for tomorrow :) 00:44 < jsaw> ok, so catchword leaked... cu later ;) 00:44 < morfoh> jsaw: cu ... happy writing :) 00:44 < jsaw> :) 00:44 < jsaw> thanks 00:44 < jsaw> huh: GnuCash 1.9.0 00:44 < morfoh> :) 00:45 < jsaw> now a GTK2 app 00:45 < jsaw> yeah, svn del package/gnome14 00:45 < morfoh> jsaw: go writing :p 00:45 < jsaw> aye aye, Sir 00:45 * jsaw has disappeared 00:46 < morfoh> :) 00:46 < karasz> kommrad, gn8 00:46 < morfoh> oh! tovorish karasz ... still awake ? :) 00:47 < morfoh> karasz: thanks ... sleep well too :) 00:47 < karasz> yup, lurkin around, keepin an eye on things 00:47 < karasz> thx, later 00:48 < morfoh> karasz: you should better use both eyes :) 00:48 < karasz> do not be afraid kommrad :D 00:48 < karasz> lurkin is my speciality 00:49 < morfoh> :) 01:05 -!- ojh [n=omer@71-210-9-135.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #t2 01:06 < Baldzius> mnemoc: ok i give up, can't get xfce-terminal from svn to work 01:07 < Baldzius> if terminal is more important than thunar i'll revert those changes 01:09 < mnemoc> Baldzius: mail them 01:11 < Baldzius> s/work/compile/ 01:18 < _Ragnar_> mnemoc: what's wrong with your mirror? 01:20 < mnemoc> i have not need axion this week 01:38 < _Ragnar_> doesn't seem to work 01:40 < karasz> from here neither.... 01:43 < mnemoc> ssh gives connection refused 01:44 < karasz> but I also had problems with one of the .cl sites, I just do not remember which one... 01:46 < mnemoc> both .cl are DSL lines 01:47 < karasz> problems as in returned error when mirror testing 01:47 < karasz> just like the american mirror 01:48 < mnemoc> yes, timeouts probably 01:48 < karasz> probably 01:49 < karasz> well, if i can grep myself together tommorow i will try to implement antivir and anti spamm to my qmail 01:49 < mnemoc> qmail-scanner +spamassassin + clamav 01:49 < karasz> but before I _must_ sleep, so cu guys 01:49 < karasz> yup 01:49 < mnemoc> cu 01:49 < karasz> spamassaain and clamav are up an runnin already 01:49 < mnemoc> but beware 01:50 < mnemoc> spamassaain's bayesian sucks badly 01:50 < karasz> hmm, i don't know any other anti spam 01:50 < mnemoc> crm114 and bogofilter are good 01:50 < mnemoc> but i don't know how to make spamassaain use them instead of it's sucking bayesian 01:50 < karasz> somehow i fear more qmail-scanner than the rest 01:51 < mnemoc> ack 01:51 < mnemoc> qmail-scanner is discusting by design 01:51 < karasz> i developed a phobia against words startin' with `qm` 01:51 < mnemoc> but qscanq damage the large mails 01:52 < karasz> maybe stupid question but since here is 4 am it can go: 01:52 < karasz> qmail-scanner-queue.pl is part of qmail-scanner? 01:53 < mnemoc> that is qmail-scanner 01:53 < karasz> good 01:53 < karasz> that means that qmail-scanner is installed 01:53 < karasz> so i need to worry only abt integration 01:54 < karasz> iirc i saw smth which replaces the value of qmailqueue in per host rules 01:55 < mnemoc> +QMAILQUEUE=foo 01:55 < karasz> yup 01:56 < karasz> instead of +QMAILQUEUE=/opt/qmail/bin/qmail-queue that one used +QMAILQUEUE=/opt/qmail/bin/qmail-scanner-queue.pl 01:57 < karasz> strange thing that in scanner.pl ClamAV is not listed as supported, maybe in the README file... 01:58 < karasz> now really I am gone, again cu 02:00 < mnemoc> night karasz 02:27 -!- morfoh [n=morfoh@p54BED771.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["leaving"] 02:27 < CIA-18> amery * r15390 /trunk/package/x86/lilo/stone_mod_lilo.sh: * fixed `stone lilo` to look for initrd at /boot 02:38 < mnemoc> what 'No Device Map found!' means on `stone grub` ? 02:42 < CIA-18> amery * r15391 /trunk/package/base/stone/stone_mod_general.sh: * changed `stone general` to only suggest 'Current' timezone if it's a good value 04:07 -!- TheBeast [n=fat@unaffiliated/thebeast] has joined #t2 04:07 < TheBeast> 'lo 04:07 < TheBeast> anyone around? 04:08 < TheBeast> *sigh* 04:08 < ojh> Hi Beast, what's up? 04:09 < TheBeast> oh, thank god someone's here 04:09 < TheBeast> ojh not bad :) 04:09 < TheBeast> I just have some questions. are you a t2 dev? 04:09 < ojh> Not a dev, but a resonably advanced user 04:10 < TheBeast> I need help with some linux headers. I basically want to bootstrap a system here and I don't know if I should use raw linux headers (directly from the tarball) or ... ? 04:10 < TheBeast> I'm really lost 04:10 < TheBeast> I saw this project hosted by the PLD linux distribution. they say their headers are the latest stable ones :) 04:11 < TheBeast> what does t2 use? 04:12 < ojh> Oh, well I have not actually bootstraped an install from just SRC, I have used the install CD to get up to a working system. I know the handbook has fairly complete directiond from starting with a Profile and creating an installed system or install ISO. 04:13 < ojh> I start with the stable ISO for starters then sync the tree and start building bleeding edge packages from Trunk. 04:13 < TheBeast> I understand 04:15 < ojh> Eventally I need to build some more advanced ISOs of my own. I will need to create a custom Live CD to demonstrate the custom desktop environment project I am developing. 04:17 < TheBeast> I'll use those "stable" linux headers from the pld project 04:17 < TheBeast> that's what linux from scratch uses. crux too:) 04:18 < ojh> Why not just use the Kernel from the tree? You adding some special patches or something? 04:18 < TheBeast> I'm not going to add anything 04:19 < TheBeast> but the kernel developers ecourage not to use raw linux headers from the tarball 04:19 < TheBeast> the ones considered stable by pld are 2.6.12.0 04:19 < TheBeast> have been released on july last year 04:20 < TheBeast> I'll stick to them since most of the source-based distros use em 04:21 < ojh> The tree does include a linux-header package along with linux24 & linux26 04:21 < ojh> In the 'base' directory. 04:22 < TheBeast> sorry? what do you mean by tree? the tarball or something? 04:23 < ojh> The T2 package tree is what I am refering to. What is in the tarball or what you get when you do a SVN sync. 04:24 < TheBeast> oh 04:24 < TheBeast> ojh I want to do this by my own. dunno how to explain this. I want to bootstrap a system by hand :) 04:24 < TheBeast> not use scripts and such 04:26 < ojh> Um . . . . T2 is just a bunch of scripts for building a system. The point is an extreamly flexable but completely automated system to build a working Linux based OS. I'm not sure I get what you are trying to do. 04:27 < TheBeast> I basically want to format a 30 gig partition mkdir boot dev etc lib usr blah blah 04:27 < TheBeast> copy over the kernel headers 04:27 < TheBeast> start building binutils with tools from my cd then bootstrap gcc or something 04:28 < TheBeast> builf glibc and create a small linux environment 04:28 < TheBeast> but not via script 04:28 < TheBeast> scripts* 04:28 < TheBeast> via MyWay(TM) 04:29 < ojh> Well, I know the T2 Handbook goes over several ways of bootstrapping a working T2 install - so that is where I would start. . . 04:30 < TheBeast> heh, I'll see :) 04:30 < ojh> http://t2-project.org/handbook/html/t2-handbookch15.html#x61-12000015 04:32 < ojh> Hope that is usefull to you. 04:32 < TheBeast> kind of 04:32 < TheBeast> brb 04:33 < ojh> brb 04:49 < ojh> Back. 05:05 -!- ojh [n=omer@71-210-9-135.eugn.qwest.net] has left #t2 [] 06:08 * TheBeast is kinda back 07:12 -!- morfoh [n=morfoh@p54BEECD5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 07:12 < morfoh> moin moin 07:59 -!- TheBeast [n=fat@unaffiliated/thebeast] has quit ["CHIX DIG OPENBSD (http://www.openbsd.org/)"] 07:59 < morfoh> so far so good ;) -> 2.2.0-alpha-x86-athlon-mnemosyne: 07:59 < morfoh> 589 builds total, 233 completed fine, 0 with errors. 08:21 < rxr> re 08:21 < morfoh> moin rxr ;) 08:30 < rxr> moin morfoh 08:31 < morfoh> rxr: pehaps we can use this for converting the handbook -> http://www.gruniversal.de/main/index.php?m1=proj&m2=latex2db 08:33 * morfoh off to the TU ... bbl 08:34 < mnemoc> good luck morfoh 08:34 < mnemoc> :) 08:34 < morfoh> mnemoc: oh! ... you didn't sleept ? :) 08:35 < mnemoc> nope :( 08:35 < mnemoc> go! 08:35 < morfoh> mnemoc: poor guy ... what are you doing ? :) 08:35 < rxr> moin mnemoc ! 08:35 < morfoh> mnemoc: aye aye Sir ... bbl :) 08:35 < mnemoc> coding and fighting 2.2 08:36 < mnemoc> cu morfoh 08:36 < mnemoc> moin rxr 08:36 < rxr> mnemoc: coding what? t2 ? 08:36 < mnemoc> clipper :) 08:36 < rxr> .oO ? 08:36 < rxr> in the office 08:36 < rxr> ? 08:36 < mnemoc> at home 08:36 < rxr> huh 08:36 < rxr> so urgent ? 08:37 < mnemoc> yes, a report for the tax office 08:37 < mnemoc> for.. today :p 08:37 < mnemoc> but i'll go to sleep a bit now 08:38 < rxr> I hope you awake ... 08:38 < rxr> the company has to do a report to the tax office tody? 08:38 < rxr> +a 08:38 < mnemoc> yes 08:38 < mnemoc> based on some data which is not on the 'new system' 08:39 < mnemoc> so i have to process month-ly tarballs 08:39 < mnemoc> with dbf and csv files inside 08:43 < mnemoc> ./scripts/Cleanup -build 08:43 < mnemoc> removing build/azazel-2.2.0-alpha-x86-pentium-mmx-azazel ... 08:43 < mnemoc> and try again... 08:46 < mnemoc> time to go to sleep a couple of hours :) cu ,-) 08:51 < rxr> cu 08:51 < rxr> hope you awake in time 08:51 < rxr> these days my body does not like night shifts too much and does nto really awake from a normal alarm clock ... 08:51 < rxr> only when susan is pulling me out of the bad heftily ... 09:31 < rxr> so - me to office then - cu 09:43 < owl> moin 09:49 < valentin> moin 09:49 < owl> hi valentin 09:49 < valentin> moin owl 09:59 < karasz> moin all 10:10 -!- sherniux [n=ss@81-7-79-120.ip.takas.lt] has joined #t2 10:11 < sherniux> Baldzius esi? 10:27 -!- sherniux [n=ss@81-7-79-120.ip.takas.lt] has quit [] 10:41 < karasz> err....., anyone with access to gsmp here? 10:41 < karasz> maybe rxr around? 10:48 < Baldzius> moin all 10:48 < Baldzius> moin karasz 10:48 < karasz> hello Baldzius 10:48 < Baldzius> sherniux junkis n.akmene 11:12 < morfoh> rehi 11:14 < morfoh> moin owl, valentin, nasty gun boy and of course tovorish karasz :) 11:21 < Baldzius> hi morfoh :) 11:21 -!- mipe [n=mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has joined #t2 11:24 < morfoh> wb mipe 11:26 < rxr> re 11:26 < morfoh> wb rxr ... and did you found your needed piece of hardware ? ;) 11:28 < rxr> yep 11:29 < rxr> and did some internet surfing @Conrad whether to buy the Cinergy SX or T2 11:29 < rxr> but the SX ist still not supported by open source 11:29 < rxr> and thus I got the classic T2 box ... 11:29 < morfoh> hehe :) 11:31 < karasz> kommrad : good morning :) 11:32 < karasz> re 11:32 < karasz> rxr hello 11:33 < rxr> moin karasz 11:34 < karasz> rxr filepipe.c.bz2 is missin from gsmp 11:34 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@p54AFA672.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 11:34 * rxr collecting a cup of fresh coffee from the kitchen and then I take a look 11:41 < CIA-18> rene * r15392 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/putenv.patch: * fixed my mail address in the dietlibc/putenv.patch 11:47 -!- mtr [n=Michael@p54AF995F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:52 < karasz> heh, i am starttin a fresh HEAD desktop build ;) 11:58 < rxr> 2.1 or trunk ? 11:58 < rxr> x86-64 I guess ? 11:58 < karasz> trunk head 11:58 < karasz> x86-64 opt em64t 11:58 < morfoh> rxr: do we've some special term for the "adaptive" (perhaps the wrong word) patch mechanism within t2 ? 12:00 < rxr> morfoh: what adaptive mechanism do you reffer to ? 12:02 < rxr> karasz: I'm right now filling the gap of the missing files on the master mirror with mnemocs reference on the other side of the world 12:02 < rxr> when the files are there over the slow connection gsmp will be complete again 12:03 < karasz> i already got what i needed, but i thought that it would be nice to know... 12:11 < rxr> karasz: yes, sure - of course thanks to notify there are some more files still missing 12:31 < karasz> so build started, let's see how it will go .... 13:23 < morfoh> 2.2.0-alpha-x86-athlon-mnemosyne: 13:23 < morfoh> 589 builds total, 507 completed fine, 0 with errors. 13:23 < morfoh> :) 13:23 < valentin> netrunner votes to remove submaster .oO 13:24 < valentin> and rxr: please don't reply to their ml :) 13:24 < rxr> didn't netrunner try to convince /me / /us here that their development style is so superious ? 13:24 < rxr> superiour ... 13:24 < rxr> valentin: btw. I hack your preview code a bit since I integrate real dithering now ... 13:24 < valentin> well, i think he saw the immense T2 progress ... 13:24 < morfoh> rxr: I meant the automatic patching or extension of a package by another package 13:24 < rxr> too bad your auto-select code is not yet really there - will it appear today ? 13:25 < valentin> rxr: leave that piece of code alone for now pls. I'll continue later in the evening, but i have to continue other work now 13:25 < rxr> I lave the select code 13:25 < rxr> but I integrate dithering now 13:26 < valentin> rxr: of course the code gets factored out of the preview image data later 13:31 < morfoh> rxr: you can be really charming :) ... already seen your recent mail to dietlibc ML ... :) 13:32 < rxr> morfoh: and ? 13:32 < rxr> anything wrong with it? 13:32 < morfoh> rxr: no! :) 13:33 < morfoh> rxr: oh! there is sth. wrong ... your mail address 13:33 < rxr> in one patch? 13:33 < rxr> yes - already fixed in SVN 13:34 < rxr> noticed while clicking on send ... 13:34 < morfoh> rxr: ic :) 13:36 < rxr> hm - for some reason my Floyed Steinberg dither does work stand alone but not in the driver 13:36 < rxr> sigh 13:36 < rxr> returns all black?!? 13:41 < rxr> hm 13:41 < rxr> the riemersma ditherizer works ... 13:41 < rxr> ouhm 13:41 < rxr> must be some bigendian whatsoever bug in my floyd steinberg implementaiton 13:43 -!- veki [n=vvucic@gw.gnucentar.org.yu] has joined #t2 13:44 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/av-dither.tiff 13:44 < rxr> ^- valentin this is why I want a dither preview, it does not look like gray by any means 13:45 < rxr> ah - ic what could be wrong with FloydSteinberg(...); 13:46 < rxr> number of shades I passed was invalid ... 13:46 < rxr> 1 instead of 2 ... 13:46 < rxr> ah - yes 13:46 < rxr> works too ,-) 13:46 < valentin> rxr: sorry, i do not see the effect of the dithering in that bitmap. could you give another example to compare ? 13:48 < rxr> sure 13:48 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/av-color.tiff 13:49 < rxr> ^- the color preview 13:49 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/av-gray.tiff 13:49 < rxr> ^- the gray preview 13:49 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/av-dither-fs.tiff 13:49 < rxr> ^- dither like the first, but classic Floyed Steinberg instead of Riemersma along a Hilbert curve ... 13:50 < valentin> btw: why can't konqueror display tiff ? 13:50 < rxr> maybe because they are properitary Apple crap TIFFs ... 13:50 < rxr> that only few open source programs display IIRC 13:50 < rxr> what can display those ? 13:51 < valentin> gimp 13:51 < valentin> and display iirc 13:51 < rxr> ic 13:51 < rxr> display does not show all 13:51 < rxr> and the latest versions invert certain bw tiffs ... 13:51 < rxr> anyway - dithering is obvious now ? 13:51 < valentin> mom - downloading.. 13:52 < rxr> I commit with floyed-steinberg enabled 13:52 < valentin> display can display tiff 13:52 < rxr> yes, but not all 13:53 < rxr> tiff is a ugly tag list that can contain whatever junk 13:53 < rxr> even jpeg ... 13:53 < rxr> and multiple pages 13:53 -!- veki [n=vvucic@gw.gnucentar.org.yu] has left #t2 [] 13:53 < rxr> no Open Source program aside Gimp can display those multi page TIFFs IIRC 13:53 < rxr> and Gimp can only display them inefficently converting all b/w data to rgb or so .. 13:54 < rxr> opening a few kB 30p TIFF renders my 512MB boxes unusable while Gimp tries to eat all the memory ... 13:54 < rxr> anyway ... - dithering is fine ? 13:54 < valentin> still do not see the effect... 13:54 < rxr> ? 13:54 < rxr> you do not see the dithering in the dithering shoots ? 13:54 < rxr> you see the difference from gray and color ? 13:55 < valentin> the pictures do not look dithered at all to me 13:55 < valentin> both have checkerboard aliases 13:56 < valentin> but maybe that is only because i have no comparison to without dithering 13:56 < rxr> to lineart ? 13:56 < rxr> the color and gray are of course not dithered btw ... 13:57 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/av-lineart.tiff 13:58 < valentin> so lineart+dither is the same as rastered ? 13:58 < rxr> hm`? 13:59 < rxr> we both talk about that I implemented the preview mode for the Dither (de: Gerastert) mode in the Mac driver ? 13:59 < rxr> that you formerly just showed as ordinary 8bit gray ? 13:59 < valentin> ah - dither == gerastert 13:59 < valentin> i thought about antialiasing by blur, but that was obviously wrong 13:59 < valentin> sorry for that :) 13:59 < rxr> np 13:59 < rxr> I just wanted to have this preview mode correct 14:00 < valentin> yep, now it realy looks like gerastert 14:00 < rxr> so - I release yet a new driver and then I test with the 4th Dimension database and some QPix TWAIN plugin to get the driver UI hidden in that combination 14:04 < rxr> heh - new driver got yet 5kB bigger 14:04 < rxr> slowly the driver looks reasonable ... 14:05 < rxr> still fits on a good old 360kB floppy, but not that far away from the HP driver that is 150MB in size ... 14:05 < rxr> bigger than the origial ZIPs floppies ... !!! .-( 14:05 < valentin> lol 14:05 < rxr> valentin: maybe we should also distribute some 1xxMB videos with the driver ... 14:05 < rxr> maybe some T2 commercials ,-) 14:06 < valentin> we could pack a livecd image on the drivers dvd :) 14:06 < rxr> yeah - a minimal PPC ,-) 14:07 < rxr> so - now let's see how long it will take to make the driver work together with 4D and Qpix and hide it's UI then as requested ,-) 14:10 < rxr> heh - the cingergy t2 just works as usual when plugged into a t2 box ... 14:10 < rxr> our current plug'n play setup is really cool ,-) 14:18 < karasz> huh. oh 14:18 < karasz> Building at76c503a within linux26 (using postlinux.conf)........... 14:18 < karasz> -> Building lazyfs within linux26 (using postlinux.conf). 14:19 < karasz> and it works... 14:19 < karasz> linux26 builds fawlessly 14:19 < karasz> :) 14:25 < CIA-18> sebastian * r15393 /trunk/package/develop/erlang-otp/ (erlang-otp.conf erlang-otp.desc): * updated erlang-otp (R10B-8 -> R10B-9) 14:26 < CIA-18> sebastian * r15394 /trunk/package/graphic/wings3d/ (wings3d.conf wings3d.desc): * updated wings3d (0.98.29b -> 0.98.32a) 14:26 < valentin> karasz: even at76c503a ? 14:26 < karasz> yes 14:26 < rxr> hm - I fear then there is a but in my last night change 14:27 < karasz> no error what so ever on stage [1] 14:27 * valentin wondering why that outdated version builds 14:27 < karasz> valentin: ? 14:27 < valentin> the at76c503a module 14:28 < karasz> outdated? 14:28 < karasz> hmm, i svn up some hours ago 14:28 < karasz> i guess i am r15391 or smome... 14:29 < valentin> grep '^\[D\]' package/network/at76c503a.desc 14:30 < valentin> grep '^\[D\]' package/network/at76c503a/*.desc 14:30 < valentin> even 14:30 < karasz> grep '^\[D\]' package/network/at76c503a/at76c503a.desc 14:30 < karasz> [D] X at76c503a-2005-05-21.tar.bz2 cvs://:pserver:anonymous@cvs.at76c503a.berlios.de:/cvsroot/at76c503a at76c503a -D 2005-05-21 14:30 < karasz> [D] 2698592826 atmel-firmware-1.3.tar.gz http://www.thekelleys.org.uk/atmel/ 14:30 < valentin> that is what i mean, the old 2005-05-21 version would not build for current kernels iirc... 14:31 < rxr> valentin: I changed the error handling of linux* last night 14:31 < rxr> guess it ihas some typo 14:32 < rxr> so /me playing with the Terratec T2 while waiting of feedback regarding 4D stuff from the client ,-) 14:32 < valentin> karasz: can you take a look if you have a at76c503*.ko within your module dir ? 14:32 < karasz> moment 14:33 < karasz> mope, just the dir... 14:33 < karasz> ../kernel/drivers/net/wireless/at76c503 14:33 < karasz> which is empty. 14:39 < rxr> heh 14:40 < rxr> indeed the new BIOS of my subnotebook is reporting battery nearz zero percent as overtemperature 100 degree ++ even 14:40 < rxr> and the linux kernel emergency shutdowns then ... 14:40 < rxr> interesting ... 14:40 * rxr forgot again the plug in the power-cord ... 14:40 < rxr> for some reason this happens way more often than it did with the iBook in the past ... 14:56 < rxr> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/69438 14:56 < rxr> ^- now that is grave 14:56 < karasz> :( 14:57 < rxr> rfid implanced into all employees ... 14:57 < karasz> linux24 fails on stage [1] 14:57 < karasz> i do not need lin24 14:58 < valentin> rxr: wow... 14:58 < mnemoc> i want to drop linux24 at 2.2 :) 14:58 < karasz> anybody want to take a look, or i will O linux24 and move on.... 14:58 < karasz> hello mnemoc 14:58 < karasz> so that is not interestin'... 14:58 * karasz O linux24 and moves on..... 14:58 < rxr> karasz: linux24 will be soon rm -rf'ed from trunk 14:59 < karasz> ok 14:59 < mnemoc> hi karasz, rxr :) 15:00 < rxr> moin mnemoc 15:00 < valentin> moin mnemoc 15:00 < mnemoc> moin valentin 15:03 < mnemoc> [rock-devel] removal of submaster 15:03 < rxr> mnemoc: ack - valentin already pasted ... 15:04 < mnemoc> ^_^ 15:04 -!- mipe [n=mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has quit ["leaving"] 15:05 < rxr> My reason for not switching was mainly the 15:05 < rxr> uncomfortable explosive ego of the fork's leader. 15:05 < rxr> what a joke 15:05 < rxr> of course it is the opposite which made us fork t2 15:05 < rxr> not to mention that actually netrunns girlfriend said it is a pitty that I left where I was one of the only nice people their ... 15:06 < mnemoc> *g* 15:06 < valentin> rxr: you should /nick TNT :) 15:07 < rxr> C4 ,-) 15:08 < mnemoc> blindcoder's mail remind me some of my own mails at 2004 15:08 < rxr> mnemoc: hope you slept well and good that you awake ,-) 15:09 < rxr> in time 15:09 < mnemoc> i slept 3h... and slept good :) 15:09 < mnemoc> s/and/but/ 15:10 < valentin> i find it fascinating that they took two years to notice how bloody submaster is... 15:10 < valentin> ... that it took them ... 15:12 < mnemoc> "But this seems to be your primary concern if I understood you correctly at 22C3. 15:12 < mnemoc> That "wild submission of code to subversion" would break the now really usable 15:12 < mnemoc> trunk." 15:13 < mnemoc> i guess we demostrated that is bullsh*t 15:15 < valentin> imo in theory it makes no difference wether you have a submaster queue full of broken patches or a broken trunk. in practice however, with sm it takes 4 weeks++ until someone notices. 15:15 < valentin> whereas broken trunk is fixed within 24h 15:15 < rxr> mnemoc: or we just code a bit saner compared to chaotic hacking 15:16 < mnemoc> :) 15:32 < rxr> heh - the Terratec Cnergy T2 USB 2 DVB-T adapter does work far better with a low signal in the air - and also does switch channels way faster - compared to my former PCI card (that does not fit in my dual-core Powermac due to missing PCI, only PCIE ... 15:33 < rxr> Linux 2.6.15.4 15:34 < rxr> only MMplayer cuase video flicker with the Radeon 200M in my sub-notebook ... 15:34 < rxr> xine works flawlessly however 15:35 < CIA-18> rene * r15395 /trunk/package/x11/rxvt-unicode/rxvt-unicode.desc: * updated rxvt-unicode (7.5 -> 7.6) 15:38 < CIA-18> rene * r15396 /trunk/package/base/linux26/linux26.desc: * updated linux26 (2.6.15.3 -> 2.6.15.4) 15:43 < karasz> cu guys later 15:43 < mnemoc> cu karasz 15:44 < rxr> damn 15:44 < mnemoc> rxr: any idea why EXTRAVERSION was catch as .2.3 previously? 15:44 < rxr> once booted window and it tinkered with my hardware clock again 15:44 < rxr> hm ? 15:44 < rxr> - Built-in composite manager 15:44 < rxr> - Built-in composite manager 15:45 < rxr> E16 version 0.16.8 15:45 < mnemoc> build/azazel-2.2.0-alpha-x86-pentium-mmx-azazel/boot/initrd-2.6.15.2.3-dist.img 15:45 < rxr> did not saw that yet 15:51 < rxr> valentin: btw. we now include exact-image in the mac driver - please add all future image processing and analyzing code into that ... 15:51 < rxr> as dual GPL with optional commercial license and copyright to ExactCode as usual ... 16:17 < rxr> reiser4 flush intervalls are quite long 16:17 * rxr building a kernel on the partition 16:17 < mnemoc> oh, looking at frapper i noticed they are adding streets to italy 16:17 < rxr> and everytime this doomed vi does flush or so a file it hangs for quite some seconds till reiser4 flushed it all or so ... 16:17 < mnemoc> rxr: worse than reiser3 on that usecase? 16:17 < rxr> a bit 16:17 < rxr> but reiser4 is way faster for the normal tasks ... 16:18 < rxr> maybe vi is also misusing something 16:18 < rxr> I do not have this behaviour with something else ... 16:18 < rxr> tiff colormaps go on my nerves ... 16:18 < rxr> can't they just work ... 16:18 * rxr reading more libtiff code ... 16:30 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 16:30 < misl> hi folks 16:31 < rxr> hi misl 16:34 < rxr> quite nice to have the new DVB-T adapter in USB form to plug into whatever box i'm right now ... 16:34 < rxr> and to carry to susan ... 16:54 < morfoh> hi ol'rocket ;) 16:55 < mnemoc> hi misl 16:55 < mnemoc> hi morfoh 16:55 < morfoh> "good morning" mnemoc :p 16:55 < mnemoc> morfoh: how was the meeting? 16:55 < misl> hi rxr, mnemoc, morfoh :) 16:55 * misl having dinner :) 16:55 < mnemoc> morfoh: nah... i'm at office since now()-5 16:56 < morfoh> mnemoc: it was good, but the other people which are interested in the job semmed to be a bit pissed 16:56 < morfoh> seemed 16:57 < mnemoc> morfoh: were your competitors also there? 16:57 < morfoh> mnemoc: yep 16:58 < mnemoc> anyone with real chances? 16:59 < morfoh> mnemoc: N. and me are "unofficially" choosen yet ... if I would decide, just 1 of them was "fitting" quite well 17:00 < mnemoc> how many? 17:02 < morfoh> 3 other till now ... 17:02 < mnemoc> when do they choose? 17:03 < morfoh> begining of march 17:05 < mnemoc> ic 17:05 < morfoh> mnemoc how is report "thingy" going ? 17:06 < mnemoc> delivered, now i have another 'thingy' for monday... and i have to reinstall the main server this sunday 17:07 < morfoh> oh! ... they want to "suck" out as most as possible before you're leaving 17:08 < mnemoc> yep 17:08 < morfoh> will you provide support for them after ? 17:09 < mnemoc> for servers and azazel desktops, probably :) 17:10 < morfoh> mnemoc: make a contract before :p 17:11 < mnemoc> :) 17:12 < morfoh> mnemoc: could someone from your lug provide local support for the worst case ? 17:12 < mnemoc> lug died a few weeks after founding it 17:13 < morfoh> oh! why ? 17:13 < mnemoc> lack of commitment 17:13 < morfoh> hmmm ... :/ 17:14 < morfoh> then you should teach your daughters quickly ... afaik they are used to use linux desktops at least :) 17:14 < morfoh> and momie gets the money :p 17:14 < mnemoc> :) 17:15 < morfoh> btw, in that case I'll not contact AI :) 17:16 * morfoh back on t2 plone polishing work 17:16 < LMJ> hello guys 17:17 < LMJ> got a question for a new package 17:18 < LMJ> this package will be done in 3 steps, (./configure && make && make install in the default uncompress dir) then cd subdir1/ the -> "./configure && make && make install" and cd ../subdir2 and "./configure && make && make install" then, it's done 17:18 < morfoh> bonsoir monsieur serwou .. ca va bien ? :) 17:19 < LMJ> how i can setup a .conf to make the full compilation ? 17:19 < LMJ> bonsoir morfoh, ca roule ? ;) 17:20 < morfoh> LMJ: what does that mean ? :) 17:20 < LMJ> "good evening morfoxh, how are you doing ?" ;) 17:21 < morfoh> LMJ: ah ok ... I'm fine! but a bit sleepy :) 17:21 < LMJ> ok ;) 17:21 < LMJ> any idea to make my .conf ? 17:21 < morfoh> will custextract help ? .... 17:22 < mnemoc> ?? 17:22 < morfoh> mnemoc: hmmm ... dunno 17:22 < rxr> nah 17:22 < morfoh> wasn't there sth. like that 17:23 < LMJ> should a make again my question for something more clear ? 17:23 < mnemoc> LMJ: i would cheat, adding a duplicated [D] :p 17:23 < rxr> the quick way would be hook_add postmake 5 "cd ... ; configure ; make .." 17:23 < mnemoc> LMJ: using [SRC] . 17:23 < rxr> mnemoc: he has only one tarball I htink 17:23 < LMJ> yes rxr, only one tarball 17:23 < rxr> LMJ: do you have one or multple tarballs ? 17:23 < mnemoc> rxr: and what's the problem of adding it twice? 17:23 < rxr> mnemoc: .oO 17:23 < rxr> ok - LMJ list your tarball 3 times and use [SRC] . 17:24 < LMJ> rxr : hook_add postmake 5 "cd ... ; configure ; make .." <--- do you know a package when i can find that to understand how it works ? 17:24 < rxr> that is also a bit imperfect but will work automatically 17:24 < mnemoc> and switch 'srcdir' 17:24 < LMJ> ok 17:24 < rxr> mnemoc: ack 17:24 < rxr> that is what I was about to write ... 17:24 < LMJ> - reset - 17:24 < mnemoc> :) 17:24 < LMJ> where i could find an exemple in the tree ? 17:24 < mnemoc> nope 17:25 < mnemoc> at .conf set a counter, and on prepatch increse the counter and set srcdir accordint to that counter 17:25 * LMJ is lost in space :-d 17:26 < mnemoc> [SRC] . will call build_this_package once for each [D] 17:26 < LMJ> is there a package who needed a conf similar to mine where i can take inspiration ? 17:26 < LMJ> ok 17:26 < mnemoc> clone [D] to have it 3 times, so you get build_this_package called 3 times 17:27 < LMJ> ok 17:27 < LMJ> then 17:27 < LMJ> how i tell him to compile the first time in the dir, then subdir1 and subdir2 ? 17:28 < mnemoc> that's where i would use a counter 17:28 < mnemoc> initializing the counter right on .conf 17:29 < LMJ> - pause - 17:29 < LMJ> :-d 17:29 < mnemoc> adding a hook at preconf (?) (to not mess with patching) 17:29 * mnemoc paused 17:30 * LMJ remove batteries from mnemoc microphone ;) 17:30 < mnemoc> :( 17:31 < LMJ> hehe 17:31 < LMJ> just to force the pause 17:33 < LMJ> so 17:33 < LMJ> 3 [D] to the same url 17:34 * LMJ press play button on mnemoc back 17:34 < mnemoc> [SRC] . before [D]s 17:34 < mnemoc> to make it loop over all [D]s 17:34 < LMJ> [SRC] . <-- only that ? 17:34 < mnemoc> . is the pattern to match 17:35 < mnemoc> sed pattern 17:35 < LMJ> hum 17:35 < LMJ> well, i trust you ;) 17:35 < mnemoc> bad idea 17:36 < LMJ> SRC then 3 [D] 17:36 < LMJ> done 17:36 < LMJ> [SRC] . 17:36 < mnemoc> if french wouldn't trust chilean, they would keep been the greatest wine producers :) 17:37 < LMJ> LMAO 17:37 < LMJ> dude, we don't like the vinegar :-D 17:38 < mnemoc> frenchies came to chile to recover the merlot after WWII ,-) 17:38 < LMJ> i never checked chilian wines 17:39 < LMJ> anyway 17:39 < mnemoc> :) 17:39 < LMJ> let's make a .conf 17:39 < mnemoc> as you have to distinguish between your three builds i would make a counter 17:39 < LMJ> or just tell me somewhere i can find a similar .conf to get inspiration 17:40 < mnemoc> LMJ: this is completly new 17:40 < LMJ> h ok 17:40 < LMJ> it will work on 2.1 stable ? 17:40 < mnemoc> yes 17:40 < rxr> yes 17:40 < mnemoc> if it works 17:40 < rxr> LMJ: this SRC is there since ages 17:40 < LMJ> ok 17:40 < LMJ> so ok 17:40 < mnemoc> i fear double untar-ing 17:40 < rxr> so far noone had to rebuild 3 dirs in the same tarball ... 17:40 < LMJ> i'm going to test on my clean t2 :-/ 17:41 < mnemoc> but reseting autoextract to after after first loop would solve this 17:41 < LMJ> i have to say the package i'm doing is useless, just for fun :-/ 17:41 < mnemoc> not useless, it's a proof of concept 17:42 < LMJ> there you go 17:42 < LMJ> "i'm testing stuff" 17:42 < rxr> mnemoc: nah - no other tinkering 17:42 < rxr> he is cd'ing into subdirs 17:42 < rxr> that should work 17:42 < LMJ> so, what's the way to go gurus? 17:42 < mnemoc> rxr: but each loop with untar the same file 17:42 < rxr> mnemoc: who cares ,-) 17:42 < mnemoc> :p 17:42 < rxr> LMJ: follow master mnemoc advices ,-) 17:42 < mnemoc> LMJ: set a counter 17:43 < mnemoc> o_O 17:43 < LMJ> a counter ? 17:43 < mnemoc> evil_lmj_counter=0 17:43 < LMJ> for loop ? 17:43 < LMJ> ok 17:43 < mnemoc> nope, to be used inside the hook 17:43 < mnemoc> and do the right `cd` 17:44 < LMJ> ¿ mnemoc ? 17:44 < LMJ> you have to be sloooooow with me, remenber, i'm french 17:44 < LMJ> and n00b :-p 17:44 < mnemoc> :) 17:45 < mnemoc> hook_add preconf 1 'evil_subdir_switcher' 17:45 < LMJ> i don't know the hook thing neither 17:45 < LMJ> ok 17:46 < mnemoc> OT: LMJ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmenere 17:46 < mnemoc> that will call evil_subdir_switcher function before doing ./configure on each loop 17:46 < mnemoc> and you define the function 17:46 < mnemoc> evil_subdir_switcher() { 17:47 < mnemoc> case "$evil_lmj_counter" in 17:47 < mnemoc> 0) # first loop, do nothing 17:47 < mnemoc> true ;; 17:47 < mnemoc> 1) # second loop, subdir 1 17:47 < mnemoc> cd subdir1 ;; 17:47 < mnemoc> 2) # third loop, subdir 2 17:47 < mnemoc> cd subdir2 ;; 17:47 < mnemoc> esac 17:48 < mnemoc> (( evil_lmj_counter ++ )) 17:48 < mnemoc> } 17:48 < mnemoc> or more portably, evil_lmj_counter=1 at 0) 17:48 < mnemoc> evil_lmj_counter=2 at 1) 17:48 < mnemoc> and evil_lmj_counter=3 at 2) 17:48 * LMJ put mnemoc in pause again 17:50 < LMJ> evil_lmj_counter=1 at 0) <--- should i change something ? 17:51 < LMJ> instead of "true" i put "evil_lmj_counter=1" ? 17:51 * LMJ press play button ;) 17:51 < mnemoc> case "$evil_lmj_counter" in 17:51 < mnemoc> 0) evil_lmj_counter=1 ;; 17:51 < LMJ> ok 17:51 < LMJ> got it 17:51 < mnemoc> 1) evil_lmj_counter=2 17:51 < mnemoc> cd subdir1 ;; 17:52 < LMJ> yep 17:52 < LMJ> ok 17:52 < LMJ> done 17:53 < LMJ> should be enough ? 17:53 < mnemoc> i hope 17:54 < LMJ> let's go 17:56 < LMJ> LMAO 17:56 < mnemoc> ? 17:58 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178160060.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 17:58 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.1.1 and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/ 17:58 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Jan 14 21:42:03 2006] 17:58 [Users #t2] 17:58 [@ChanServ] [ jsaw ] [ misl ] [ mtr_] [ rxr_ ] [ _Ragnar_] 17:58 [ Baldzius] [ karasz] [ mnemoc] [ owl ] [ sepp ] 17:58 [ CIA-18 ] [ LMJ ] [ morfoh] [ rxr ] [ valentin] 17:58 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal] 17:58 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004 17:58 < LMJ> Carmenere makes red wine ? 17:58 -!- [freenode-info] channel trolls and no channel staff around to help? please check with freenode support: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp 17:58 < mnemoc> LMJ: it's like merlot 17:58 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 41 secs 18:00 < LMJ> mnemoc it looks like it worked 18:00 < mnemoc> LMJ: i took carmenere because wikipedia didn't mention Cabernet Sauvignon and merlot got extint from Bordeaux's valey :) 18:00 < LMJ> I don't like to much Bordeau read wine 18:00 < mnemoc> hehe 18:00 < LMJ> they are too "heavy" in mouth for me 18:01 < LMJ> really hard to find a good taste for my young mouth :-) 18:01 < mnemoc> :) 18:01 < mnemoc> beeer 18:01 < LMJ> not at all 18:01 < LMJ> i dislike beer too ;) 18:01 < mnemoc> *g* 18:09 < karasz> stage [5] :D 18:10 < mnemoc> go karasz go 18:10 < karasz> :) thx mnemoc 18:10 < karasz> btw re all 18:10 < karasz> and for who i didn't greet allready, moin :) 18:10 < mnemoc> LMJ: did the experiment work? 18:11 < LMJ> i wondering if it compiled the main dir 18:11 < mnemoc> see the logs 18:12 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178182099.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:12 < karasz> huh, hah, wines??? 18:12 < mnemoc> karasz: not you, LMJ 18:13 < karasz> :( 18:13 < karasz> me not? 18:13 < mnemoc> :) 18:15 < karasz> although I must confess, my interest in wines is purely scientific.... 18:17 < karasz> hmmm, mnemoc do you know by any chanse what happened with the pgAdmin3 package? 18:17 < mnemoc> karasz: no idea, ask Baldzius :) 18:17 < karasz> Baldzius: ? 18:17 < karasz> why him? 18:17 < mnemoc> he is doing all the nasty things at trunk 18:18 < karasz> nah, pgAdmin3 was never added officialy... 18:18 < LMJ> it happens sometimes karasz, like xml tools ;) 18:18 < mnemoc> xml tools? 18:18 < karasz> well, the important thing was made anyway 18:19 < mnemoc> if something wasn't added, please send them again 18:19 < LMJ> sgml/docbook/other stuff i forgot ;) 18:19 < karasz> in the sense that i learned that bit by addin it. 18:19 -!- You're now known as rxr 18:23 < karasz> but the thing that annoyes me the most is that i have no response for the 3rd mail i sent to pgadmin team, about their ./configure 18:24 < karasz> a simple _do not bug us anymore_ would have done it... 18:24 < mnemoc> get used to it 18:25 < karasz> but i was _very_ polite :( 18:26 < karasz> dear Sirs, .... your great product has a little flaw... Yours, Sincerly stuff 18:38 * LMJ should forget to try some "proofs of crap concepts" 18:43 < mnemoc> LMJ: ? 18:44 < LMJ> i'm loosing my time with this crap 18:44 < LMJ> sorry to make loosing your 18:44 < rxr> anyone here with a C / C++ users journal account here ? 18:44 < mnemoc> if you give some feedback i can help you 18:44 < rxr> I would need one article ... 18:44 < mnemoc> rxr: ACM ? 18:48 < mnemoc> rxr: give me some hints to search for it 18:49 < mnemoc> top - 15:50:49 up 59 days, 3:44, 4 users, load average: 4.43, 4.34, 4.43 18:53 < _Ragnar_> uh >.< another kernel update 18:53 * mnemoc has to deactivate his svn up by cron to build on trunk 18:54 < rxr> mnemoc: has ACM C/C++ users jounal article s? 18:54 < rxr> http://www.cuj.com/documents/s=8058/cuj9812riemersm/riemersm.htm 18:54 < rxr> ^- I'd like to have the whole of that one ... 18:55 < rxr> so - /we dinner - cu 18:55 < karasz> cu rxr 18:56 < mnemoc> rxr: no luck 18:57 < mnemoc> rxr: but 46 matches for 'Dithering' :) 18:58 < mnemoc> rxr: far more on lowercase 19:06 < rxr> I#m intrested in particularly this algorithm 19:07 < mnemoc> they include many journals, but not the one you want :\ 19:07 < rxr> mnemoc: thanks for trying it out ,-) 19:07 * rxr back to dinner 19:22 -!- menomc [n=amery@200.75.27.25] has joined #t2 19:22 -!- mnemoc [n=amery@200.75.27.68] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 19:24 -!- menomc is now known as mnemoc 19:37 < rxr> re 19:39 < morfoh> re 19:43 < mnemoc> wb rxr, morfoh 19:45 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p83.129.173.130.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 19:53 < morfoh> thx mnemoc :) 19:54 < mnemoc> wb sepp_ 19:55 < karasz> rxr, kommrad, sepp 19:55 < morfoh> karasz: tovorish :) 19:57 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p83.129.180.193.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:03 < sepp_> hello :) 20:03 -!- sepp_ is now known as sepp 20:06 < morfoh> wb sepp :) 20:06 < mnemoc> morfoh: 10px x 10px ? 20:07 < morfoh> mnemoc: ok 20:11 < morfoh> yeah --> 2.2.0-alpha-x86-athlon-mnemosyne: 20:11 < morfoh> 589 builds total, 589 completed fine, 0 with errors. 20:11 < morfoh> :) 20:11 < mnemoc> good luck during installation 20:12 < morfoh> I assume bad things will happen ... if you wish me good luck that way 20:13 < mnemoc> i had lot of suffering using lvm and lilo on that yesterday 20:13 < sepp> rxr: http://www.tcnj.edu/~hernande/cujv5/html/16.12/riemersm/riemersm.htm ;-) 20:14 < morfoh> I don't use any of them :p 20:14 < morfoh> mnemoc: so you can suffer alone :p 20:14 < morfoh> mnemoc: I'll not tell the others why I'm pissed now ... but guess you know. :p 20:16 < sepp> hi morfoh :) 20:16 < mnemoc> sepp: google? :) 20:17 < sepp> yup 20:21 < rxr> sepp: thanks 20:21 < rxr> but I have googled myself and pasted code together 20:22 < rxr> I want to read the original article ,-) 20:22 -!- RobertaZ [n=robero@82-135-223-132.ip.takas.lt] has joined #t2 20:26 -!- Baldzius [n=baldzius@85.206.99.163] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:26 -!- Baldzius [n=baldzius@85.206.99.163] has joined #t2 20:29 < Baldzius> RobertaZ: che tu? 20:59 -!- seilebost [n=will@log77-3-82-243-252-133.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #t2 21:00 < morfoh> Baldzius: gun boy ... nasty one ... is that english ? :) 21:01 < seilebost> Hi 21:01 < seilebost> I have many problem to compile T2 for dreamcast 21:01 < Baldzius> hi morfoh, seilebost 21:02 < rxr> seilebost: dreamcast support is not yet finished 21:02 < rxr> seilebost: valentin is the person to talk about the dreamcast bits ,-) 21:02 < rxr> so - /me falling asleep 21:02 < seilebost> Oh yes 21:02 < rxr> n8 all - cu then 21:02 < seilebost> ok 21:03 < morfoh> gn8 rxr ... sleep well 21:03 < seilebost> But it seems that there is a problem with Building base/linux-header 21:03 < seilebost> the script sends me this message : 21:04 < seilebost> ===[apply_patchfiles:672 (last $?=0)> patch -bfp1 -z .orig 21:04 < seilebost> fl_wrapper.so: write outside basedir (/home/T2/t2.stable 21:05 < seilebost> hi valentin ? 21:05 < Baldzius> morfoh, that was lithuanian -> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Lithuania :) 21:07 < mnemoc> oh, a dissident 21:07 < morfoh> Baldzius: what is lithuania ? :p 21:07 < mnemoc> a part of russia 21:07 < morfoh> Baldzius: ah ... the land with children soldiers ? 21:07 < sepp> ohh i like the taxi shown there 21:07 < morfoh> (me hides 21:07 < Baldzius> :))))) 21:08 < mnemoc> :p 21:08 < mnemoc> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuania 21:08 < seilebost> bye 21:08 < Baldzius> Lithuania President Palace is better sepp :) 21:08 -!- seilebost [n=will@log77-3-82-243-252-133.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:08 < morfoh> I like this --> Blanking or vandalising this page can be dangerous. <-- this shos the real behavior of them :) 21:09 < morfoh> nasty boy is vandalising the trunk all the time :) 21:09 < Baldzius> l0l 21:09 < morfoh> :D 21:21 < karasz> huh, hah, 1 hour for gcc??? 21:21 < mnemoc> Baldzius: http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/lh.html <--- why do you have a 'russia' between you and poland? 21:21 < karasz> is that normal? 21:21 < mnemoc> karasz: see the log, there is movement? 21:22 < karasz> now it is 21:22 < karasz> but buildin gcc took 1 hour. 21:23 < mnemoc> get better hardware :) 21:23 < karasz> :( 21:24 < karasz> i cannot aford better... 21:24 < Baldzius> mnemoc: it was Prusia before WWII, belonged to Germany iirc, then russians captured :) 21:24 < Baldzius> WWI even, dunno now ... 21:24 < Baldzius> this land is really problematic 21:25 < sepp> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalingrad 21:25 < mnemoc> Baldzius: but it's a "colony" or an "island" part of the big one? 21:25 < mnemoc> sepp: thanks :) 21:25 < morfoh> Baldzius: so we're prussian brothers :p 21:26 < Baldzius> yeah, Herkus Mantas :) 21:26 -!- RobertaZ [n=robero@82-135-223-132.ip.takas.lt] has left #t2 [] 21:26 < morfoh> Baldzius: ^ look another prussian brother joined :) 21:27 < sepp> if germany and russia really messes up something Kalingrad is the result 21:27 < Baldzius> left :( 21:27 < morfoh> yeah ... :( 21:27 < morfoh> already seen ... 21:27 < Baldzius> i thought he's my godson 21:28 < morfoh> oh! ... godson? 21:28 < Baldzius> yep, i am godfather for 16y 21:28 < Baldzius> became 13y old 21:29 < mnemoc> morfoh: the baptism thing i forgot the word some minutes ago :p 21:30 < morfoh> hehe :) 21:30 < Baldzius> or how it's called, dunno :) 21:30 < mnemoc> Baldzius: yes, you are right 21:33 < morfoh> oh! my h*ly godfathers :) 21:38 -!- nzg [n=tschmidt@p54AFD8BF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 21:38 < nzg> moin 21:38 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:40 < morfoh> hi nzg 21:40 < karasz> moin nzg 22:07 < CIA-18> sebastian * r15397 /trunk/package/graphic/greycstoration/ (. greycstoration.cache greycstoration.desc): * added greycstoration (0.2) - GREYCstoration Gimp plugin 22:10 < karasz> hmmm i am greppin' 5-bdb.log 22:10 < karasz> and i see a lot of : `gcc: -lpthread: linker input file unused because linking not done` 22:10 < karasz> should I care? 22:21 < karasz> nah, i don't 22:22 < karasz> cu guys latter this day....:) 22:22 < Baldzius> :) 22:23 < Baldzius> What I can say for sure, is that Thunar, libexo and Terminal won't be ready for release in February. 22:24 < Baldzius> mnemoc: ----^ from one of xfce developer's blog 22:24 < Baldzius> i guess i need to revert thunar & libexo, what u think? 22:24 < sepp> the xfce file manager? 22:25 < Baldzius> thunar, yes i think 22:25 < Baldzius> thing is i fixed thunar but now terminal fails :) 22:25 < Baldzius> what a crap ... 22:26 < mnemoc> Baldzius: sadly yes, Terminal is an important component, and thunar 'just' the future alternative to xffm 22:27 < sepp> i tested it once but i do not like xfce or "modern" file managers 22:27 < Baldzius> mnemoc: ack 22:29 < mnemoc> sepp: ? 22:31 < sepp> i prefer the norton commander idea 22:31 < sepp> mc for linux 22:32 < mnemoc> xffm is 'similar' to that 22:32 < mnemoc> and i hate it :p 22:32 < Baldzius> farther he wrotes that xfce 4.4 probably will ship xffm 22:32 < sepp> :) 22:33 < Baldzius> so i have to use konqueror as always :) 22:33 < mnemoc> doh 22:33 < sepp> xffm is not very "similar" to mc 22:34 < sepp> only the basic idea is the same thing 22:34 < mnemoc> i didn't say 'very' :) 22:34 < sepp> hehe 22:36 < Baldzius> well i need to confess i dont know how to use xffm, i guess they should release a book "xffm for dummies" like me 22:37 < mnemoc> order one for me too please 22:37 < Baldzius> :) 22:40 < sepp> evidence is also crap :/ 23:18 < sepp> is it be ok if i make a default option for wings3d that compiles the erlang vm, esdl and wings and only install the really needed parts from inside a single wings3d package? 23:18 < sepp> but with the option to get the full erlang crap ... 23:56 < Baldzius> r15379 | rene | 2006-02-09 20:29:34 +0000 (Thu, 09 Feb 2006) | 3 lines 23:56 < Baldzius> * added a 70-hal.rules to hall and install it conditionally if udev 23:56 < Baldzius> is available (untested, but should work) 23:56 < Baldzius> hehehehe it doesn't :) 23:58 < Baldzius> at least for me 23:59 < Baldzius> ooops --- Log closed Sat Feb 11 00:00:05 2006