T2 IRC Log: 2006-02-03
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--- Log opened Fri Feb 03 00:00:15 2006
00:00 < morfoh> sepp: sorry .... forgot to scale the rounded corners ... never seen that option :p
00:00 < CIA-7> aldas * r15249 /trunk/package/kde/konversation/ (konversation.conf konversation.desc): * updated konversation (0.18 -> 0.19)
00:01 < sepp> morfoh: in inkscape?
00:02 < morfoh> sepp: yes
00:02 < sepp> type alt+i
00:04 < sepp> with the "LT||" selected ...
00:05 < morfoh> sepp: "LT||" ?
00:05 < sepp> the 6 boxes
00:06 < sepp> its named "obj to pattern" or so == alt+i
00:09 < morfoh> sepp: thanks ... :)
00:10 < mnemoc> rehi
00:11 < morfoh> wb stable tree maintainer :)
00:11 < sepp> wb morfoh ;)
00:11 < mnemoc> wasn't "dictator"?
00:12 < morfoh> sepp: hehe tab is your friend :)
00:12 < sepp> argh
00:12 < sepp> wb mnemoc
00:12 < mnemoc> :)
00:12 < sepp> damn irssi
00:12 < mnemoc> thx morfoh sepp
00:13 < sepp> i'll remove that crappy irc clinet and use TypeLess
00:13 < morfoh> sepp: get a decent irc client :p
00:13 < morfoh> sepp: 1st. I saved a scaled version as .png with inkscape and saved it as gif using gimp and the logo ws looking like shit
00:14 < morfoh> 2nd. I save it as gif using inkscape and it displays blue strips at the right
00:14 < sepp> morfoh: http://home.arcor.de/t2_/small/test.svg
00:17 < morfoh> sepp: I had this version before
00:18 < CIA-7> aldas * r15250 /trunk/package/perl/perl/ (8 files): * updated perl (5.8.7 -> 5.8.8)
00:18 < sepp> ohh - so what was the problem to scale it down?
00:20 < morfoh> sepp: nope ... no problems with scaling. my inkscape does not exporting a correct transparent gif
00:21 < morfoh> sepp: reload the url
00:21 < morfoh> and you'll see
00:22 < sepp> ahh - much better
00:22 < sepp> feel free to replace the font !!!
00:23 < morfoh> sepp: I'll leave the font for now ;)
00:23 < morfoh> till someone comes up with a proposal ;)
00:23 < morfoh> sepp: but do you see the blue stripes ?
00:24 < sepp> yes :/
00:24 < sepp> but i like the general idea
00:25 < sepp> it is very simple - actually quite hard to get a more simple design
00:26 < morfoh> sepp: yes ...
00:28 < mnemoc> morfoh: can you give me priviledges to fix content?
00:29 < morfoh> mnemoc: of course ... sorry :)
00:29 < mnemoc> thanks :)
00:30 < morfoh> mnemoc: done ;)
00:38 < sepp> mnemoc: http://home.arcor.de/t2_/small/huuhuu.png hehehe
00:40 < mnemoc> morfoh: thanks
00:40 < mnemoc> sepp: you will kill morfoh if you keep changing the colors
00:41 < sepp> lol - that was just a bad joke :)
00:41 < morfoh> sepp: seems that gun boy Baldzius was trying to shoot you :)
00:42 < sepp> morfoh: no that was mnemoc - the bullet guy :)
00:43 < sepp> he suggested bullets
00:43 < morfoh> sepp: ah! yes ... I forgot .. Baldzius allways claims to have no ammo ... so mnemoc was it :)
00:43 < mnemoc> o_O
00:43 < sepp> :D
00:44 < mnemoc> sepp: can you give morfoh a fixed logo?
00:44 < morfoh> sepp: logo is fixed now ... thanks again for the tips ;)
00:44 < morfoh> mnemoc: go away :p
00:45 < sepp> mnemoc: my idea is stable ...
00:46 < sepp> i think http://t2.ixplanet.de/t2 looks quite good
00:47 < mnemoc> the +1px top menu items look weird
00:49 < sepp> +1px top menu ?
00:50 < mnemoc> topbar items have 1px over topbar
00:51 < mnemoc> so looks 'biten'
00:52 < sepp> which browser?
00:52 < mnemoc> firefox
00:55 < sepp> you mean the 1pixel top extending topic thing?
00:55 < sepp> home, about t2, arch ...
00:57 < morfoh> mnemoc: did you cleaned your cache ?
00:58 * mnemoc doing it again
00:58 < mnemoc> yes, the pixel still there
00:58 < mnemoc> sepp: the topbar menu has entries with names, between each entry there are about 5px
00:59 < mnemoc> sepp: those entries start (from top) one pixel above the topbar itself, and end exactly where the bar ends
01:00 < sepp> mnemoc: i think i know what you mean - but beside that i like it
01:00 < mnemoc> sepp: i like it too
01:00 < mnemoc> sepp: http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/t2.png
01:00 < morfoh> me too :)
01:03 < mnemoc> sepp: http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/t2@ie6.png
01:06 < morfoh> f* ie6 ...
01:07 < sepp> http://home.arcor.de/t2_/small/do-you-mean-this.png ?
01:07 < sepp> the red circle ...
01:07 < morfoh> the topbar has a problem with scaling
01:10 < mnemoc> sepp: yes
01:11 < mnemoc> sepp: and on ie6 it's on bottom of selected entries only
01:11 < mnemoc> sepp: but looks less bad imo
01:12 < morfoh> the icons in the nav bar are looking like sh*t ...
01:12 < morfoh> mnemoc: now I choose the bullets :p
01:13 < sepp> the win32 filder icons?
01:13 < mnemoc> yes
01:13 < morfoh> ugllllllllly
01:13 < sepp> yes they look very poor
01:15 < mnemoc> morfoh, sepp: i told you we need bullets :)
01:16 < sepp> *lol*
01:16 < sepp> i do not like to kill
01:16 < mnemoc> :)
01:16 < mnemoc> small 'corporative' icons for the navigation menu
01:16 < morfoh> sepp: ack ... but some windows folder icons ;)
01:17 < morfoh> mnemoc: what do you mean exactly with "corporative" ?
01:18 < mnemoc> morfoh: following the style defined by the logo
01:18 < morfoh> mnemoc: of course ... you don't have to mention it :p
01:18 < mnemoc> morfoh: maybe just a single 'orange' box
01:19 < mnemoc> morfoh: or the 4 (3+0.5+0.5) boxes of the right of the icon
01:20 < mnemoc> morfoh: or 4 boxes, with a full blue box instead of the 2, for better scaling
01:21 < morfoh> hmmmm ... let's see ... brb ;)
01:23 < sepp> i need to sleep now - good night * ;)
01:24 < morfoh> gn8 sepp ... thanks again for the inspiration and for the tips ;)
01:24 < mnemoc> gn8 sepp
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03:07 < morfoh> mnemoc: do we really want to have a plone powered button ? I'd really like to replace it with a t2-powered :p
03:22 < mnemoc> i think we should give plone the credts
03:22 < mnemoc> but the t2-powered button can be right to it :)
03:23 < mnemoc> and on every t2-powered site
03:24 < morfoh> mnemoc: the plone logo will be on the right site of the t2-powered logo ;)
03:25 < mnemoc> :)
03:26 < mnemoc> fare enogh
03:26 < morfoh> ack ... :)
03:41 * morfoh is away: A+
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04:55 < keinek_> hi
04:55 < keinek_> anybody can tell me where is Telnet in t2?
04:55 < keinek_> how packet?
04:58 < keinek_> i found it!
04:58 < keinek_> netkit-telnet
04:59 < keinek_> grrrrr
04:59 < keinek_> :D
04:59 < keinek_> thank
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07:08 < rxr> r
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08:11 < CIA-7> rene * r15251 /trunk/package/xorg/xorg-server/xorg-mtrr.patch: * fixed xorg-server to enabl mtrr support (for x86, x86-64)
08:53 < rxr> valentin: the Geode LX has hardware accelerated alpha composing
08:53 < rxr> valentin: I just scrolled the spec. ...
08:53 < LMJ> moin moin
08:53 < rxr> valentin: I think I try to add EXA support to my Geode LX driver soon
08:54 * rxr wondering what compositing speed one can get out of the 0.9W CPU ...
08:54 < rxr> moin LMJ
08:54 < LMJ> how are you today ?
08:55 < rxr> fine thanks, and you ?
08:55 < rxr> whooho
08:56 < rxr> even the former Geode GX supports alpha BLT
08:57 < rxr> AMD Geode GX(2) includes it - not the orifinal NSC Geode (1)
08:57 < rxr> New features in the AMD Geode (2) include:
08:57 < rxr> - A 32bit datapath than can support 23-bit ARGB full color.
08:58 < rxr> heh? but they removed accelerated text ....
08:58 < rxr> well, good old style text is not needed today anyway ... ,-)
08:59 < rxr> and since Geode(1) then can memory to screen blt ...
08:59 < rxr> well - how much fun open specs are ...
09:00 < rxr> I can not just implement all so basic stuff cheap AMD chips with 1Watt power-consumptions can do for my NVidia card - just because of missing specs ...
09:00 < rxr> and disassembling the windows .dlls is not too much fun
09:01 < LMJ> fine fine
09:01 < LMJ> xhtml work today :-/
10:36 < rxr> valentin: there leaked a source release out of the vp-1 consortium sthat is standarizing the Microsoft WMV3/9 (number depending on the way you look at it)
10:36 < rxr> valentin: there exists a configure ; make ; make install wrapper and vlc support for it
10:37 < rxr> resulting in a built-from (microsoft copyrighted) source vlc that play .wmv files ...
10:38 < rxr> t2 .desc for those who wanna download this questionable piece of code ?
10:39 < rxr> gobolinux even distributes a PPC binary of this lib - shrug ...
10:39 < rxr> .oO gues this irc log will get google hits ...
10:40 < rxr> well the .desc files will get even more google hits then ..
10:40 < rxr> maybe we should do it just for the google hits of it ...
10:40 < rxr> ... flagged as local download the file will not make it on a t2 mirror
10:48 < mtr_> rxr: vlc with vc1 codec?
10:48 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr
10:48 < rxr> yep
10:50 < mtr> they now have a M$ Public License?
10:50 < mtr> ;-)
10:50 < rxr> mtr: they accidently leaked it in the standardization process
10:50 < Baldzius> moin mtr, rxr
10:50 < mtr> moin Baldzius
10:51 < rxr> hm
10:51 < rxr> it includes "SMPTE gies users of the SMPTE VC-1 standard royality-free copyright ...
10:52 < rxr> for use in hardware or software products
10:54 < rxr> so - vlc building
10:54 * rxr curious if it will play the .wmv file ...
10:55 < CIA-7> aldas * r15252 /trunk/package/emulators/wine/wine.desc: * updated wine (0.9.6 -> 0.9.7)
10:59 < Baldzius> rxr: what about my email i sent last week with proposal for _BASE_ update?
10:59 < Baldzius> i am waiting for permission .....
11:04 < mtr> rxr: i guess we cannot expect too much from this sample implementation, probably much too slow for real use
11:05 < rxr> tried or googled for it ?
11:07 < mtr> googled
11:07 < rxr> slow motion is better than no motion
11:07 < rxr> as long as freaky companies distribute their content as wmv
11:22 < LMJ> hello mtr
11:22 < LMJ> and Baldzius
11:23 < Baldzius> hi LMJ
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11:29 < rxr> plays
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12:20 < mnemoc> moin
12:21 < Baldzius> moin mnemoc
12:21 < mnemoc> moin Baldzius
12:23 < rxr> moin mnemoc
12:23 < mnemoc> moin rxr
12:26 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/video-macosd.png
12:26 < rxr> ^- vlc playing MWV3/9, in transparent window with tansparent OSD overlay
12:27 < rxr> video from here: http://www.channel4.com/entertainment/tv/microsites/I/itcrowd/
12:28 < mtr_> cool!
12:28 < rxr> and no, XVideo-less full screen transparent videos are not exaclty fast ... (yet)
12:33 < owl> moin
12:35 < rxr> I should get this article done ...
12:35 < rxr> moin owl
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12:42 < owl> hi rxr
12:43 < karasz> brand new regression
12:43 < karasz> http://www.x5.ro/regressions/desktop/regressions.html
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12:44 < karasz> kommrad :)
12:44 < morfoh> tovorish :)
12:47 * rxr lunch - back soon
12:47 < owl> rxr: bon apetit
12:48 < karasz> guys, any ideea abt this?
12:48 < karasz> g++ -shared -nostdlib /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/4.0.2/../../../../lib64/crti.o /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/4.0.2/crtbeginS.o .libs/usbpp.o -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/lib64/../lib64 -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/lib64/../lib64 -lusb -L/usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/4.0.2 -L/usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/4.0.2/../../../../x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/lib -L/usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/4.0.2/../../../../lib64 -L/usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/4.0.2/../
12:48 < karasz> ../.. -L/lib/../lib64 -L/usr/lib/../lib64 /usr/lib64/../lib64/libstdc++.so -lm -lc -lgcc_s /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/4.0.2/crtendS.o /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/4.0.2/../../../../lib64/crtn.o -Wl,-soname -Wl,libusbpp-0.1.so.4 -o .libs/libusbpp-0.1.so.4.4.2
12:48 < karasz> /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/4.0.2/../../../../x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/bin/ld: cannot find -lusb
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12:52 < valentin> moin
12:52 < karasz> mon valentin
12:52 < morfoh> moin valentin
12:52 < karasz> err, moin
12:53 < morfoh> karasz: what package is failing ?
12:53 < mtr_> moin valentin, karasz
12:53 < mtr_> hi morfoh
12:53 < morfoh> hi mtr_ ;)
12:53 < mnemoc> karasz: libusb is built?
12:54 < mnemoc> ehm... it is libusb
12:54 < mnemoc> karasz: NOPARALLEL?
12:54 < morfoh> hi mnemoc
12:54 < karasz> no libusb
12:54 < karasz> that error is from libusb
12:55 < karasz> moin mnemoc
12:55 < mnemoc> moin morfoh karasz :)
12:55 < mnemoc> [09:57:01] ehm... it is libusb
12:55 < mnemoc> [09:57:05] karasz: NOPARALLEL?
12:55 < karasz> should I mark it noparalel?
12:56 < morfoh> karasz: I guess that is what mnemoc is asking
12:56 < morfoh> is telling you I mean ;)
12:56 < karasz> i will mark it, then i restart build...
12:56 < karasz> thanks for the translation kommrad :)
12:59 < mnemoc> o_O
12:59 < mnemoc> what was so cryptic?
13:00 < karasz> nothin
13:01 < karasz> me sleepin' was the culprit :)
13:01 < mnemoc> :)
13:01 < morfoh> mnemoc: dunno ... perhaps karasz forgot to insert the babel fish into his ear ;)
13:01 < morfoh> mnemoc: so he cannot understand aliens :p
13:02 * karasz forgot his ear home, actually listening through his eyes...
13:02 < mnemoc> o_O
13:04 < rxr> re
13:04 < morfoh> mnemoc: poor karasz seems to have just one ear ...
13:04 < morfoh> hi rxr
13:04 < karasz> morfoh: actualy none :D
13:06 < jsaw> re
13:06 < morfoh> hi Dr.J ;)
13:06 < jsaw> what's the output of: grep 1 /sys/*/*/remavable | cut -f4 -d/
13:06 < jsaw> on your systems?
13:06 < jsaw> hi morfoh
13:06 < jsaw> oh stop
13:07 < jsaw> typo
13:07 < jsaw> grep 1 /sys/*/*/removable | cut -f4 -d/
13:07 < jsaw> morfoh, rxr, karasz: --^
13:07 < karasz> hi jsaw
13:07 < jsaw> hi :)
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13:08 < rxr> without misspelling
13:08 < rxr> /sys/block/sda/removable:1
13:09 < jsaw> rxr: do you have a floppy drive?
13:09 < rxr> jsaw: why do you ask s?
13:09 < rxr> jsaw: floppy what?
13:09 < morfoh> grep 1 /sys/*/*/removable | cut -f4 -d/
13:09 < morfoh> fd0
13:09 < morfoh> hda
13:09 < morfoh> hdb
13:09 < jsaw> because I have no /dev/cdrom and /dev/floppy links on bootdisk init
13:09 < jsaw> morfoh: good
13:09 < rxr> jsaw: I have a Iomega Zip ...
13:09 < jsaw> rxr: and I'd like to change the devicelist="`ls /dev/cdrom .." to
13:09 < jsaw> for devname in `grep 1 /sys/*/*/removable | cut -f4 -d/`; do
13:09 < jsaw> devicelist="$devicelist /dev/$each"
13:09 < jsaw> done
13:10 < rxr> oehm
13:10 < jsaw> morfoh: two CD/DVDs on ide?
13:11 < jsaw> rxr: ?
13:11 < rxr> it is not garuanteed that the in-kernel name is present in /dev ...
13:11 < morfoh> jsaw: yep .. hda = DVD and hdb = CD
13:11 < jsaw> rxr: oh, right
13:11 < jsaw> wait
13:12 < rxr> jsaw: I think using known names on /dev is ok
13:12 < jsaw> not if they are not there...
13:12 < rxr> if they are not there you have a more fundamental problem
13:13 < jsaw> not really, only udev rules, but detecting "removable" should also reveal USB sticks etal
13:15 < jsaw> rxr: btw, should we split udev rules?
13:16 < jsaw> that's nice btw: KERNEL=="sr[0-9]*", SYMLINK+="cdrom%e"
13:16 < jsaw> and later:
13:16 < jsaw> KERNEL=="sr[0-9]*", BUS=="scsi", NAME="scd%n"
13:18 < jsaw> rxr: oh, the problem is actually that we do not have PROGRAM="/lib/udev/check-cdrom.sh %k DVD-R"
13:26 < rxr> yes - as I wrote I wanted to wait for a final cleanup with the udev rules settle down
13:26 < rxr> I also read that they want to remove the %e support !!!!
13:26 < rxr> which I find quite rediculous
13:26 < jsaw> rxr: no problem, is it?
13:26 < jsaw> doesn't really matter
13:26 < rxr> why ?
13:27 < jsaw> instead of SYMLINK+= you'd use PROGRAM="/lib/udev/enumerate $tempnode [name]"
13:28 < jsaw> (as far as I have read there are some problems with the enumeration process inside udev, so, if they can't fix it, I prefer it to be removed...)
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13:30 < rxr> jsaw: but an external program has even more problems
13:31 < jsaw> why should it?
13:31 < jsaw> flock...?
13:33 < jsaw> rxr: do we want extra symlinks for writers (like /dev/dvdrw, /dev/cdrw)?
13:33 < rxr> that is copied from the udev incuded defaults - I do not need those ...
13:34 < jsaw> _I_, what's about _we_
13:34 < jsaw> I though it's from redhat?
13:36 < rxr> jsaw: yes, the redhat files are in udev
13:36 < rxr> as are deiab, slackware and gentoo rules or so
13:36 < rxr> I also do not understand why they do not ship a sane default instead this meeed chunks ...
13:37 < rxr> jsaw: _I_ means this is my vote - if you all see use for those partilular names files then leave it so ...
13:37 < CIA-7> jsaw * r15253 /trunk/package/filesystem/udev/50-udev.rules:
13:37 < CIA-7> * copy (sane) cdrom udev rules from gentoo
13:37 < CIA-7> (cdrw and dvdrw commented out, needed as we
13:37 < CIA-7> do not use/have /lib/udev/check-cdrom.sh)
13:37 < jsaw> :)
13:38 < jsaw> debian has devfs alike naming btw
13:41 < CIA-7> jsaw * r15254 /trunk/package/filesystem/udev/50-udev.rules: * forgot to remove one GROUP="cdrom"
13:41 < jsaw> okay, now checking why bootdisk panics...
13:41 < jsaw> cu later
13:45 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/kde.png
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13:55 < morfoh> rxr: you have a small type on your xorg.txt -> "@ZT: Erleuchtung" first para last sentence
13:55 < morfoh> typo
13:56 < rxr> hm - I edited it already - which one do you mean ?
13:57 < morfoh> Festner
13:57 < rxr> ah - thanks
13:57 < morfoh> ZT: Für Entwickler has also a typo --> "erleichter"
13:58 < rxr> heh - something else ?
14:04 -!- earless_karasz is now known as karasz
14:10 < rxr> wah!
14:10 < rxr> the article was due 6th Feb.
14:10 < rxr> why the hell did I worked on it like crazzy ...
14:11 < rxr> well - at least the first tiem I'm sending it in not overdue ,-)
14:11 < mnemoc> uhm?
14:12 < mnemoc> so you have 3 free days now?
14:13 < rxr> mnemoc: no - I have archivista and scanner work on my desk ...
14:13 < rxr> mnemoc: yet another scanner arrived right now
14:13 < rxr> and another should have too - but it is not here
14:13 < rxr> maybe it will come monday then ...
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14:14 < rxr> if valentin would and my father would not have scanners I would have over 10 already I think ...
14:15 < morfoh> rxr: yet another type but I cannot see the heading because the KDE control center is hiding it
14:16 < rxr> heh
14:16 < morfoh> s/vorraus/voraus/
14:16 * rxr needs aspell for xemacs back ...
14:17 < rxr> and Hersteller
14:17 < rxr> -r
14:17 < rxr> morfoh: thanks
14:17 < morfoh> s/immplementieren/implementieren/
14:17 < rxr> no match found - guess I had that already
14:17 < morfoh> rxr: I thinks that's all I can see right now ;)
14:17 < rxr> many thanks
14:18 < morfoh> rxr: nah! ;)
14:19 < rxr> morfoh: svn name for your plone rep ?
14:19 < karasz> re
14:20 < karasz> mnemoc: NOPARALLEL is good for libusb
14:20 < rxr> t2-plone ?
14:20 < morfoh> rxr: hmmm? the plone product is called "T2PloneSkin"
14:20 < morfoh> rxr: have you seen the latest version of it ?
14:21 < morfoh> rxr: oh! yet another typo ... ZT: Für Entwickler --> s/Entwicklen/Entwickeln/
14:23 < rxr> http://svn.exactcode.de/plone-t2/
14:23 < morfoh> rxr: ZT: Erleuchtung --> s/Luminosity/Luminocity/
14:25 < rxr> thanks
14:25 < rxr> for this repo morfoh and mnemoc have write access right now
14:26 < morfoh> rxr: s/properitärem/proprietärem/
14:26 < karasz> hmm...
14:26 < morfoh> rxr: thanks for the repo ;)
14:26 < karasz> libx11 and libxaw are built fine
14:26 < karasz> but still some packages complain that cannot find -lx11 or -lxaw...
14:28 < karasz> any ideeas?
14:29 < Baldzius> karasz: what packages
14:29 < karasz> last one is sonypid
14:29 < karasz> but others too
14:29 < karasz> gcc sonypid.o -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -lXtst -o sonypid
14:29 < karasz> !> /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/4.0.2/../../../../x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/bin/ld: cannot find -lX11
14:30 < rxr> karasz: we try to translate then on the fly for X11R7. maybe it fails for this package
14:30 < Baldzius> -L/usr/X11R6?lib ?
14:31 < karasz> Baldzius: ?
14:31 < karasz> ah yeas
14:31 < karasz> 64 related
14:33 < karasz> hmm, wrong
14:33 < karasz> there is /usr/lib/X11R6/lib/libX11.so
14:33 < karasz> but that is host
14:33 < karasz> let's check build environ...
14:34 < karasz> right
14:34 < karasz> in build environ libX11 is somewhere else
14:35 < karasz> `/usr/X11R7/lib64/libX11.so`
14:38 < morfoh> initial import of T2PloneSkin done
14:40 < rxr> karasz: is the buildlog online ?
14:40 < karasz> you wanna check?
14:40 < mnemoc> isn't it obvious? :)
14:40 < karasz> log... there is a regression
14:40 < karasz> which will be replaced in some minutes with a fresh one
14:41 < karasz> old regression -> http://www.x5.ro/regressions/desktop/regressions.html
14:41 < karasz> mnemoc: must i state every time that i am earless?
14:41 < karasz> :D
14:42 < karasz> this time i undesrtood build instead of buildlog
14:42 < karasz> in the mean time rxr
14:42 < karasz> libusb builds if marked NOPARALLEL
14:43 < rxr> karasz: ah ic
14:43 < rxr> karasz: we only translate X11R6/lib64 into X11/lib64 but do not add it just for /lib
14:43 < Baldzius> karasz: i'll do that for libusb as i has a new version for it, now testing on ref
14:43 < rxr> I can provide a patch in some minutes
14:44 < karasz> ??
14:44 < karasz> !> usr/lib64/transcode/af6_decore.la contains build system paths!
14:44 < karasz> !> The package (or a dependency) should possibly flagged with "LIBTOOL-QUIRK"
14:44 < Baldzius> ignore
14:45 < Baldzius> it's not the last message, you'll see more
14:45 < karasz> yes, the fact that it failed...
14:46 < Baldzius> look in log, i am sure it wasn't due that
14:47 < karasz> now i am waitin for build to finnish, make a regression and put uit online
14:50 < karasz> btw rxr, i must say that i admire your calm sometimes ;)
14:50 < karasz> ^^ just grepped through the ML
14:59 < karasz> rxr..?
14:59 < karasz> if you still want there is the new regression
14:59 < karasz> http://www.x5.ro/regressions/desktop/regressions.html
15:00 < rxr> karasz: ?
15:00 < karasz> the new regression
15:02 < rxr> 14:50 < karasz> btw rxr, i must say that i admire your calm sometimes ;)
15:02 < rxr> ?
15:03 < karasz> i grepped through the ML
15:03 < karasz> and i foun a certain reply
15:08 < karasz> rxr found the regression helpfull?
15:12 < mnemoc> rxr: finally i got stage 2 of the installer of my mnemosyne running BUT it doesn't detect my cdrom, kiss doesn't find /dev/tty and dm-mod module is not present :\
15:13 < karasz> -> Creating output image ...
15:13 < karasz> cp: cannot stat `/usr/src/t2-trunk/build/desktop-2.2.0-alpha-x86-64-athlon64-desktop/usr/bin/fget': No such file or directory
15:14 < karasz> should I x fget?
15:14 < morfoh> mnemoc: what was the CSS property I've to change for public visible elements ... I changed .state-visible but it doesn't work
15:14 < karasz> even X fget?
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15:15 < mnemoc> morfoh: firefox -> web developer -> information -> 'display id and class'
15:15 < mnemoc> karasz: yes
15:19 < karasz> mnemoc: ack
15:19 < mnemoc> morfoh: member.css -> .state-visible works
15:20 * mnemoc loves Web developer bar
15:24 < morfoh> mnemoc: strange ... now it works on my site too ... it seems it isn't refreshing correctly
15:24 < mnemoc> :)
15:24 < mnemoc> or not saving :)
15:24 < mnemoc> because i saw it green here before i change it to red
15:28 < morfoh> mnemoc: hehe ... same did I ;)
15:29 < rxr> so - one more scanner supported by our driver ,-)
15:29 < rxr> and hopefully one more scanner permanently in the office - one can never have enough equipment ,-)
15:29 < rxr> nice thing the AV3850 anyway
15:31 < rxr> .o(2.090,00 EUR - 2.307,09 EUR)
15:31 < rxr> http://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/OffersOfProduct/355436_-avision-av3850su-avision.html
15:31 < mnemoc> woh
15:32 < mnemoc> what an expensive piece of ... scanner
15:33 < rxr> mnemoc: I only have this professional scanners here ..
15:33 < rxr> no el-chepo crap for end-users to scan their holiday slides ...
15:33 < rxr> if it would not be pro scanners they wouold not throw money into .de for a Mac driver and even before test scanners to the linux driver developer guy ...
15:34 < rxr> quite a nice company - if one ever needs a good scanner grab an Avision one ,-)
15:34 < rxr> those current devices scan up to 35 pages per minute duplex and such ...
15:34 < rxr> anf they officially support Linux and Mac with a driver written by someone you can trust ,-)
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15:34 < rxr> ok - enough pr for now ,-)
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15:35 * rxr booting into this colorful hobby os
15:40 < morfoh> mnemoc: I think ... this dark gray color for .state-visible is ok for now ;)
15:49 < karasz> hmmm
15:50 < karasz> why is dlname='' in readline.la?
15:52 < valentin> moin
15:52 < valentin> rxr: see query
15:52 < karasz> moin valentin
15:59 < mnemoc> morfoh: T2 powered,... what about a T2 instead of the logo?
15:59 < mnemoc> morfoh: on 'orange'
16:15 < morfoh> hmmm ... you don't like it that way ?
16:19 < karasz> so, anyone cares to take a look at the regression on trunk?
16:19 < rxr> karasz: we care - but we can not jump up immediatly because we sit on the desk and have to work ..
16:19 < rxr> at least mnemoc and I ,-)
16:20 < karasz> i didn't meant to be impatient
16:20 < karasz> i just thought that you missed the post
16:25 < mnemoc> morfoh: the T2 is not clear enough for the 'powered by' logo imo
16:25 < mnemoc> rxr: :)
16:26 < mnemoc> karasz: i have it bookmarked :)
16:26 < karasz> np, mnemoc
16:26 < karasz> it will be there for a while
16:26 < karasz> as I have to do smth else myself
16:28 < mnemoc> karasz: start one at 2.1-test? ,-)
16:28 < karasz> mnemoc: if you want me to ;)
16:29 < mnemoc> karasz: that would be very nice from you
16:29 < karasz> ack
16:29 < karasz> svn now ;)
16:29 < karasz> but only on 64
16:29 < karasz> what do you want me to build?
16:29 < mnemoc> yes, same arch
16:30 < mnemoc> and if it's possible same target
16:30 < karasz> svn co /http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/.... ?
16:30 < karasz> target was desktop
16:31 < karasz> http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/tags/2.1.1.1/ ??
16:31 < mnemoc> http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/branches/2.1-test/
16:33 < morfoh> mnemoc: ok ... I'll change it ... but first I'm away for a while ... bbl ;)
16:33 < karasz> cu morfoh
16:33 < morfoh> cu
16:33 * morfoh is away: A+
16:34 < mnemoc> morfoh: T on orange and 2 on blue will link it to the logo :)
16:35 < morfoh> mnemoc: we'll see ;)
16:35 < mnemoc> morfoh: go!
16:35 < karasz> Checked out revision 15254.
16:35 < morfoh> mnemoc: YES Sir !!!
16:35 * mnemoc nods
16:36 < karasz> mnemoc: can i reuse 2.1 stable downloads?
16:37 < mnemoc> karasz: Download -alt-dir ../2.1-whatever-the-download-are
16:37 < karasz> i thought i will make a symlink...
16:37 < karasz> is that wrong?
16:38 < mnemoc> download/ can be a symlink
16:38 < karasz> ok that i was thinkin' about
16:39 < karasz> now -required...
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16:42 < sepp> moin
16:43 < mnemoc> moin sepp
16:44 < sepp> hi mnemoc :)
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16:55 < nzg> moin
16:55 < sepp> moin nzg
16:59 < rxr> moin sepp and nzg
17:01 < sepp> hi rxr
17:05 < nzg> hi rxr, sepp
17:08 < karasz> moin to all (whom i didn't greeted yet)
17:08 < karasz> me off a little
17:40 < rxr> so - cu
17:40 < rxr> /we awa
17:40 < rxr> y
17:40 < mnemoc> cu rxr
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18:45 < misl> hi folks
18:45 * morfoh is back
18:45 < morfoh> hi misl ;)
18:45 < morfoh> misl: good timing again ;)
18:45 < misl> :)
18:45 < morfoh> rehi *
18:49 < mnemoc> http://www.rocklinux.net/pipermail/rock-devel/2006-February/002020.html
18:49 < mnemoc> wb misl, morfoh
18:49 < misl> hi mnemoc
18:52 < CIA-7> aldas * r15255 /trunk/package/www/firefox/ (5 files): * updated firefox (1.5 -> 1.5.0.1)
18:54 < morfoh> thx mnemoc
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19:22 < karasz> re, back again...
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19:45 < CIA-7> aldas * r15256 /trunk/package/editors/geany/geany.desc: * repriorized geany after gtk+
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19:52 < rxr> re
19:54 < rxr> mnemoc: that uenvent is known
19:56 < rxr> we already updated to he udevstart less udev?`
19:59 < mtr_> we are at udev 083, udevstart is still included
20:00 < mnemoc> ah, ok... i though that could be the cause why stage2 didn't detect my devices :(
20:01 < karasz> mnemoc: still downloading :(
20:02 < mnemoc> karasz: what mirror?
20:07 < karasz> hmmm i dunno
20:08 < karasz> gsmp
20:08 < karasz> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/mirror/t2-source/2.1 2.1-test
20:09 < rxr> mnemoc: what udev id in your build ?
20:10 < karasz> but i guess that it is due to the fact that my older dld dir contained minimal, not desktop
20:11 < mnemoc> rxr: the one at trunk.... 032
20:11 < mnemoc> err 083
20:13 < rxr> do we already have this udevstart-less flavour ?
20:13 < rxr> jsaw: what about the udev++ plan ?
20:14 < mnemoc> minimal_cd1.iso 149435280 83% 2.34kB/s 3:33:47
20:17 < rxr> mnemoc: uploading to ?
20:18 < mnemoc> from build server to office :(
20:19 < rxr> from build server to you? or to gsmp or so ?
20:20 < mnemoc> to me
20:20 < _Ragnar_> who here is recently building t2 on 64 bit?
20:20 < rxr> me
20:20 < rxr> on x86-64 and ppc64
20:20 < rxr> and jsaw
20:21 < _Ragnar_> does gnome compile for you?
20:21 < rxr> mnemoc: if you publish I can help tacking your issue down
20:21 < rxr> _Ragnar_: oh - gnome - well - I do not exaclty care too much about that piece of ....
20:21 < rxr> _Ragnar_: but yes - it built IIRC
20:21 < mnemoc> rxr: once here i'll do
20:22 < _Ragnar_> gtk and kdelibs don't seem to fing libjpeg in /usr/lib64
20:22 < rxr> oh
20:22 < _Ragnar_> find*
20:22 < rxr> well - my last system build is form before this libjpeg lib64 migration
20:22 < _Ragnar_> >.<
20:23 < LMJ> AHHAA, firefox updated ;)
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22:03 < CIA-7> amery * r15257 /trunk/package/base/mkinitrd/mkinitrd.sh: * added dm-mod (device-mapper) to the list of modules installed on initrd
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00:00 < morfoh> sepp: sorry .... forgot to scale the rounded corners ... never seen that option :p
00:00 < CIA-7> aldas * r15249 /trunk/package/kde/konversation/ (konversation.conf konversation.desc): * updated konversation (0.18 -> 0.19)
00:01 < sepp> morfoh: in inkscape?
00:02 < morfoh> sepp: yes
00:02 < sepp> type alt+i
00:04 < sepp> with the "LT||" selected ...
00:05 < morfoh> sepp: "LT||" ?
00:05 < sepp> the 6 boxes
00:06 < sepp> its named "obj to pattern" or so == alt+i
00:09 < morfoh> sepp: thanks ... :)
00:10 < mnemoc> rehi
00:11 < morfoh> wb stable tree maintainer :)
00:11 < sepp> wb morfoh ;)
00:11 < mnemoc> wasn't "dictator"?
00:12 < morfoh> sepp: hehe tab is your friend :)
00:12 < sepp> argh
00:12 < sepp> wb mnemoc
00:12 < mnemoc> :)
00:12 < sepp> damn irssi
00:12 < mnemoc> thx morfoh sepp
00:13 < sepp> i'll remove that crappy irc clinet and use TypeLess
00:13 < morfoh> sepp: get a decent irc client :p
00:13 < morfoh> sepp: 1st. I saved a scaled version as .png with inkscape and saved it as gif using gimp and the logo ws looking like shit
00:14 < morfoh> 2nd. I save it as gif using inkscape and it displays blue strips at the right
00:14 < sepp> morfoh: http://home.arcor.de/t2_/small/test.svg
00:17 < morfoh> sepp: I had this version before
00:18 < CIA-7> aldas * r15250 /trunk/package/perl/perl/ (8 files): * updated perl (5.8.7 -> 5.8.8)
00:18 < sepp> ohh - so what was the problem to scale it down?
00:20 < morfoh> sepp: nope ... no problems with scaling. my inkscape does not exporting a correct transparent gif
00:21 < morfoh> sepp: reload the url
00:21 < morfoh> and you'll see
00:22 < sepp> ahh - much better
00:22 < sepp> feel free to replace the font !!!
00:23 < morfoh> sepp: I'll leave the font for now ;)
00:23 < morfoh> till someone comes up with a proposal ;)
00:23 < morfoh> sepp: but do you see the blue stripes ?
00:24 < sepp> yes :/
00:24 < sepp> but i like the general idea
00:25 < sepp> it is very simple - actually quite hard to get a more simple design
00:26 < morfoh> sepp: yes ...
00:28 < mnemoc> morfoh: can you give me priviledges to fix content?
00:29 < morfoh> mnemoc: of course ... sorry :)
00:29 < mnemoc> thanks :)
00:30 < morfoh> mnemoc: done ;)
00:38 < sepp> mnemoc: http://home.arcor.de/t2_/small/huuhuu.png hehehe
00:40 < mnemoc> morfoh: thanks
00:40 < mnemoc> sepp: you will kill morfoh if you keep changing the colors
00:41 < sepp> lol - that was just a bad joke :)
00:41 < morfoh> sepp: seems that gun boy Baldzius was trying to shoot you :)
00:42 < sepp> morfoh: no that was mnemoc - the bullet guy :)
00:43 < sepp> he suggested bullets
00:43 < morfoh> sepp: ah! yes ... I forgot .. Baldzius allways claims to have no ammo ... so mnemoc was it :)
00:43 < mnemoc> o_O
00:43 < sepp> :D
00:44 < mnemoc> sepp: can you give morfoh a fixed logo?
00:44 < morfoh> sepp: logo is fixed now ... thanks again for the tips ;)
00:44 < morfoh> mnemoc: go away :p
00:45 < sepp> mnemoc: my idea is stable ...
00:46 < sepp> i think http://t2.ixplanet.de/t2 looks quite good
00:47 < mnemoc> the +1px top menu items look weird
00:49 < sepp> +1px top menu ?
00:50 < mnemoc> topbar items have 1px over topbar
00:51 < mnemoc> so looks 'biten'
00:52 < sepp> which browser?
00:52 < mnemoc> firefox
00:55 < sepp> you mean the 1pixel top extending topic thing?
00:55 < sepp> home, about t2, arch ...
00:57 < morfoh> mnemoc: did you cleaned your cache ?
00:58 * mnemoc doing it again
00:58 < mnemoc> yes, the pixel still there
00:58 < mnemoc> sepp: the topbar menu has entries with names, between each entry there are about 5px
00:59 < mnemoc> sepp: those entries start (from top) one pixel above the topbar itself, and end exactly where the bar ends
01:00 < sepp> mnemoc: i think i know what you mean - but beside that i like it
01:00 < mnemoc> sepp: i like it too
01:00 < mnemoc> sepp: http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/t2.png
01:00 < morfoh> me too :)
01:03 < mnemoc> sepp: http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/t2@ie6.png
01:06 < morfoh> f* ie6 ...
01:07 < sepp> http://home.arcor.de/t2_/small/do-you-mean-this.png ?
01:07 < sepp> the red circle ...
01:07 < morfoh> the topbar has a problem with scaling
01:10 < mnemoc> sepp: yes
01:11 < mnemoc> sepp: and on ie6 it's on bottom of selected entries only
01:11 < mnemoc> sepp: but looks less bad imo
01:12 < morfoh> the icons in the nav bar are looking like sh*t ...
01:12 < morfoh> mnemoc: now I choose the bullets :p
01:13 < sepp> the win32 filder icons?
01:13 < mnemoc> yes
01:13 < morfoh> ugllllllllly
01:13 < sepp> yes they look very poor
01:15 < mnemoc> morfoh, sepp: i told you we need bullets :)
01:16 < sepp> *lol*
01:16 < sepp> i do not like to kill
01:16 < mnemoc> :)
01:16 < mnemoc> small 'corporative' icons for the navigation menu
01:16 < morfoh> sepp: ack ... but some windows folder icons ;)
01:17 < morfoh> mnemoc: what do you mean exactly with "corporative" ?
01:18 < mnemoc> morfoh: following the style defined by the logo
01:18 < morfoh> mnemoc: of course ... you don't have to mention it :p
01:18 < mnemoc> morfoh: maybe just a single 'orange' box
01:19 < mnemoc> morfoh: or the 4 (3+0.5+0.5) boxes of the right of the icon
01:20 < mnemoc> morfoh: or 4 boxes, with a full blue box instead of the 2, for better scaling
01:21 < morfoh> hmmmm ... let's see ... brb ;)
01:23 < sepp> i need to sleep now - good night * ;)
01:24 < morfoh> gn8 sepp ... thanks again for the inspiration and for the tips ;)
01:24 < mnemoc> gn8 sepp
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03:07 < morfoh> mnemoc: do we really want to have a plone powered button ? I'd really like to replace it with a t2-powered :p
03:22 < mnemoc> i think we should give plone the credts
03:22 < mnemoc> but the t2-powered button can be right to it :)
03:23 < mnemoc> and on every t2-powered site
03:24 < morfoh> mnemoc: the plone logo will be on the right site of the t2-powered logo ;)
03:25 < mnemoc> :)
03:26 < mnemoc> fare enogh
03:26 < morfoh> ack ... :)
03:41 * morfoh is away: A+
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04:55 < keinek_> hi
04:55 < keinek_> anybody can tell me where is Telnet in t2?
04:55 < keinek_> how packet?
04:58 < keinek_> i found it!
04:58 < keinek_> netkit-telnet
04:59 < keinek_> grrrrr
04:59 < keinek_> :D
04:59 < keinek_> thank
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08:11 < CIA-7> rene * r15251 /trunk/package/xorg/xorg-server/xorg-mtrr.patch: * fixed xorg-server to enabl mtrr support (for x86, x86-64)
08:53 < rxr> valentin: the Geode LX has hardware accelerated alpha composing
08:53 < rxr> valentin: I just scrolled the spec. ...
08:53 < LMJ> moin moin
08:53 < rxr> valentin: I think I try to add EXA support to my Geode LX driver soon
08:54 * rxr wondering what compositing speed one can get out of the 0.9W CPU ...
08:54 < rxr> moin LMJ
08:54 < LMJ> how are you today ?
08:55 < rxr> fine thanks, and you ?
08:55 < rxr> whooho
08:56 < rxr> even the former Geode GX supports alpha BLT
08:57 < rxr> AMD Geode GX(2) includes it - not the orifinal NSC Geode (1)
08:57 < rxr> New features in the AMD Geode (2) include:
08:57 < rxr> - A 32bit datapath than can support 23-bit ARGB full color.
08:58 < rxr> heh? but they removed accelerated text ....
08:58 < rxr> well, good old style text is not needed today anyway ... ,-)
08:59 < rxr> and since Geode(1) then can memory to screen blt ...
08:59 < rxr> well - how much fun open specs are ...
09:00 < rxr> I can not just implement all so basic stuff cheap AMD chips with 1Watt power-consumptions can do for my NVidia card - just because of missing specs ...
09:00 < rxr> and disassembling the windows .dlls is not too much fun
09:01 < LMJ> fine fine
09:01 < LMJ> xhtml work today :-/
10:36 < rxr> valentin: there leaked a source release out of the vp-1 consortium sthat is standarizing the Microsoft WMV3/9 (number depending on the way you look at it)
10:36 < rxr> valentin: there exists a configure ; make ; make install wrapper and vlc support for it
10:37 < rxr> resulting in a built-from (microsoft copyrighted) source vlc that play .wmv files ...
10:38 < rxr> t2 .desc for those who wanna download this questionable piece of code ?
10:39 < rxr> gobolinux even distributes a PPC binary of this lib - shrug ...
10:39 < rxr> .oO gues this irc log will get google hits ...
10:40 < rxr> well the .desc files will get even more google hits then ..
10:40 < rxr> maybe we should do it just for the google hits of it ...
10:40 < rxr> ... flagged as local download the file will not make it on a t2 mirror
10:48 < mtr_> rxr: vlc with vc1 codec?
10:48 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr
10:48 < rxr> yep
10:50 < mtr> they now have a M$ Public License?
10:50 < mtr> ;-)
10:50 < rxr> mtr: they accidently leaked it in the standardization process
10:50 < Baldzius> moin mtr, rxr
10:50 < mtr> moin Baldzius
10:51 < rxr> hm
10:51 < rxr> it includes "SMPTE gies users of the SMPTE VC-1 standard royality-free copyright ...
10:52 < rxr> for use in hardware or software products
10:54 < rxr> so - vlc building
10:54 * rxr curious if it will play the .wmv file ...
10:55 < CIA-7> aldas * r15252 /trunk/package/emulators/wine/wine.desc: * updated wine (0.9.6 -> 0.9.7)
10:59 < Baldzius> rxr: what about my email i sent last week with proposal for _BASE_ update?
10:59 < Baldzius> i am waiting for permission .....
11:04 < mtr> rxr: i guess we cannot expect too much from this sample implementation, probably much too slow for real use
11:05 < rxr> tried or googled for it ?
11:07 < mtr> googled
11:07 < rxr> slow motion is better than no motion
11:07 < rxr> as long as freaky companies distribute their content as wmv
11:22 < LMJ> hello mtr
11:22 < LMJ> and Baldzius
11:23 < Baldzius> hi LMJ
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11:29 < rxr> plays
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12:20 < mnemoc> moin
12:21 < Baldzius> moin mnemoc
12:21 < mnemoc> moin Baldzius
12:23 < rxr> moin mnemoc
12:23 < mnemoc> moin rxr
12:26 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/video-macosd.png
12:26 < rxr> ^- vlc playing MWV3/9, in transparent window with tansparent OSD overlay
12:27 < rxr> video from here: http://www.channel4.com/entertainment/tv/microsites/I/itcrowd/
12:28 < mtr_> cool!
12:28 < rxr> and no, XVideo-less full screen transparent videos are not exaclty fast ... (yet)
12:33 < owl> moin
12:35 < rxr> I should get this article done ...
12:35 < rxr> moin owl
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12:42 < owl> hi rxr
12:43 < karasz> brand new regression
12:43 < karasz> http://www.x5.ro/regressions/desktop/regressions.html
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12:44 < karasz> kommrad :)
12:44 < morfoh> tovorish :)
12:47 * rxr lunch - back soon
12:47 < owl> rxr: bon apetit
12:48 < karasz> guys, any ideea abt this?
12:48 < karasz> g++ -shared -nostdlib /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/4.0.2/../../../../lib64/crti.o /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/4.0.2/crtbeginS.o .libs/usbpp.o -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/lib64/../lib64 -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/lib64/../lib64 -lusb -L/usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/4.0.2 -L/usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/4.0.2/../../../../x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/lib -L/usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/4.0.2/../../../../lib64 -L/usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/4.0.2/../
12:48 < karasz> ../.. -L/lib/../lib64 -L/usr/lib/../lib64 /usr/lib64/../lib64/libstdc++.so -lm -lc -lgcc_s /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/4.0.2/crtendS.o /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/4.0.2/../../../../lib64/crtn.o -Wl,-soname -Wl,libusbpp-0.1.so.4 -o .libs/libusbpp-0.1.so.4.4.2
12:48 < karasz> /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/4.0.2/../../../../x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/bin/ld: cannot find -lusb
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12:52 < valentin> moin
12:52 < karasz> mon valentin
12:52 < morfoh> moin valentin
12:52 < karasz> err, moin
12:53 < morfoh> karasz: what package is failing ?
12:53 < mtr_> moin valentin, karasz
12:53 < mtr_> hi morfoh
12:53 < morfoh> hi mtr_ ;)
12:53 < mnemoc> karasz: libusb is built?
12:54 < mnemoc> ehm... it is libusb
12:54 < mnemoc> karasz: NOPARALLEL?
12:54 < morfoh> hi mnemoc
12:54 < karasz> no libusb
12:54 < karasz> that error is from libusb
12:55 < karasz> moin mnemoc
12:55 < mnemoc> moin morfoh karasz :)
12:55 < mnemoc> [09:57:01]
12:55 < mnemoc> [09:57:05]
12:55 < karasz> should I mark it noparalel?
12:56 < morfoh> karasz: I guess that is what mnemoc is asking
12:56 < morfoh> is telling you I mean ;)
12:56 < karasz> i will mark it, then i restart build...
12:56 < karasz> thanks for the translation kommrad :)
12:59 < mnemoc> o_O
12:59 < mnemoc> what was so cryptic?
13:00 < karasz> nothin
13:01 < karasz> me sleepin' was the culprit :)
13:01 < mnemoc> :)
13:01 < morfoh> mnemoc: dunno ... perhaps karasz forgot to insert the babel fish into his ear ;)
13:01 < morfoh> mnemoc: so he cannot understand aliens :p
13:02 * karasz forgot his ear home, actually listening through his eyes...
13:02 < mnemoc> o_O
13:04 < rxr> re
13:04 < morfoh> mnemoc: poor karasz seems to have just one ear ...
13:04 < morfoh> hi rxr
13:04 < karasz> morfoh: actualy none :D
13:06 < jsaw> re
13:06 < morfoh> hi Dr.J ;)
13:06 < jsaw> what's the output of: grep 1 /sys/*/*/remavable | cut -f4 -d/
13:06 < jsaw> on your systems?
13:06 < jsaw> hi morfoh
13:06 < jsaw> oh stop
13:07 < jsaw> typo
13:07 < jsaw> grep 1 /sys/*/*/removable | cut -f4 -d/
13:07 < jsaw> morfoh, rxr, karasz: --^
13:07 < karasz> hi jsaw
13:07 < jsaw> hi :)
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13:08 < rxr> without misspelling
13:08 < rxr> /sys/block/sda/removable:1
13:09 < jsaw> rxr: do you have a floppy drive?
13:09 < rxr> jsaw: why do you ask s?
13:09 < rxr> jsaw: floppy what?
13:09 < morfoh> grep 1 /sys/*/*/removable | cut -f4 -d/
13:09 < morfoh> fd0
13:09 < morfoh> hda
13:09 < morfoh> hdb
13:09 < jsaw> because I have no /dev/cdrom and /dev/floppy links on bootdisk init
13:09 < jsaw> morfoh: good
13:09 < rxr> jsaw: I have a Iomega Zip ...
13:09 < jsaw> rxr: and I'd like to change the devicelist="`ls /dev/cdrom .." to
13:09 < jsaw> for devname in `grep 1 /sys/*/*/removable | cut -f4 -d/`; do
13:09 < jsaw> devicelist="$devicelist /dev/$each"
13:09 < jsaw> done
13:10 < rxr> oehm
13:10 < jsaw> morfoh: two CD/DVDs on ide?
13:11 < jsaw> rxr: ?
13:11 < rxr> it is not garuanteed that the in-kernel name is present in /dev ...
13:11 < morfoh> jsaw: yep .. hda = DVD and hdb = CD
13:11 < jsaw> rxr: oh, right
13:11 < jsaw> wait
13:12 < rxr> jsaw: I think using known names on /dev is ok
13:12 < jsaw> not if they are not there...
13:12 < rxr> if they are not there you have a more fundamental problem
13:13 < jsaw> not really, only udev rules, but detecting "removable" should also reveal USB sticks etal
13:15 < jsaw> rxr: btw, should we split udev rules?
13:16 < jsaw> that's nice btw: KERNEL=="sr[0-9]*", SYMLINK+="cdrom%e"
13:16 < jsaw> and later:
13:16 < jsaw> KERNEL=="sr[0-9]*", BUS=="scsi", NAME="scd%n"
13:18 < jsaw> rxr: oh, the problem is actually that we do not have PROGRAM="/lib/udev/check-cdrom.sh %k DVD-R"
13:26 < rxr> yes - as I wrote I wanted to wait for a final cleanup with the udev rules settle down
13:26 < rxr> I also read that they want to remove the %e support !!!!
13:26 < rxr> which I find quite rediculous
13:26 < jsaw> rxr: no problem, is it?
13:26 < jsaw> doesn't really matter
13:26 < rxr> why ?
13:27 < jsaw> instead of SYMLINK+= you'd use PROGRAM="/lib/udev/enumerate $tempnode [name]"
13:28 < jsaw> (as far as I have read there are some problems with the enumeration process inside udev, so, if they can't fix it, I prefer it to be removed...)
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13:30 < rxr> jsaw: but an external program has even more problems
13:31 < jsaw> why should it?
13:31 < jsaw> flock...?
13:33 < jsaw> rxr: do we want extra symlinks for writers (like /dev/dvdrw, /dev/cdrw)?
13:33 < rxr> that is copied from the udev incuded defaults - I do not need those ...
13:34 < jsaw> _I_, what's about _we_
13:34 < jsaw> I though it's from redhat?
13:36 < rxr> jsaw: yes, the redhat files are in udev
13:36 < rxr> as are deiab, slackware and gentoo rules or so
13:36 < rxr> I also do not understand why they do not ship a sane default instead this meeed chunks ...
13:37 < rxr> jsaw: _I_ means this is my vote - if you all see use for those partilular names files then leave it so ...
13:37 < CIA-7> jsaw * r15253 /trunk/package/filesystem/udev/50-udev.rules:
13:37 < CIA-7> * copy (sane) cdrom udev rules from gentoo
13:37 < CIA-7> (cdrw and dvdrw commented out, needed as we
13:37 < CIA-7> do not use/have /lib/udev/check-cdrom.sh)
13:37 < jsaw> :)
13:38 < jsaw> debian has devfs alike naming btw
13:41 < CIA-7> jsaw * r15254 /trunk/package/filesystem/udev/50-udev.rules: * forgot to remove one GROUP="cdrom"
13:41 < jsaw> okay, now checking why bootdisk panics...
13:41 < jsaw> cu later
13:45 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/kde.png
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13:55 < morfoh> rxr: you have a small type on your xorg.txt -> "@ZT: Erleuchtung" first para last sentence
13:55 < morfoh> typo
13:56 < rxr> hm - I edited it already - which one do you mean ?
13:57 < morfoh> Festner
13:57 < rxr> ah - thanks
13:57 < morfoh> ZT: Für Entwickler has also a typo --> "erleichter"
13:58 < rxr> heh - something else ?
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14:10 < rxr> wah!
14:10 < rxr> the article was due 6th Feb.
14:10 < rxr> why the hell did I worked on it like crazzy ...
14:11 < rxr> well - at least the first tiem I'm sending it in not overdue ,-)
14:11 < mnemoc> uhm?
14:12 < mnemoc> so you have 3 free days now?
14:13 < rxr> mnemoc: no - I have archivista and scanner work on my desk ...
14:13 < rxr> mnemoc: yet another scanner arrived right now
14:13 < rxr> and another should have too - but it is not here
14:13 < rxr> maybe it will come monday then ...
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14:14 < rxr> if valentin would and my father would not have scanners I would have over 10 already I think ...
14:15 < morfoh> rxr: yet another type but I cannot see the heading because the KDE control center is hiding it
14:16 < rxr> heh
14:16 < morfoh> s/vorraus/voraus/
14:16 * rxr needs aspell for xemacs back ...
14:17 < rxr> and Hersteller
14:17 < rxr> -r
14:17 < rxr> morfoh: thanks
14:17 < morfoh> s/immplementieren/implementieren/
14:17 < rxr> no match found - guess I had that already
14:17 < morfoh> rxr: I thinks that's all I can see right now ;)
14:17 < rxr> many thanks
14:18 < morfoh> rxr: nah! ;)
14:19 < rxr> morfoh: svn name for your plone rep ?
14:19 < karasz> re
14:20 < karasz> mnemoc: NOPARALLEL is good for libusb
14:20 < rxr> t2-plone ?
14:20 < morfoh> rxr: hmmm? the plone product is called "T2PloneSkin"
14:20 < morfoh> rxr: have you seen the latest version of it ?
14:21 < morfoh> rxr: oh! yet another typo ... ZT: Für Entwickler --> s/Entwicklen/Entwickeln/
14:23 < rxr> http://svn.exactcode.de/plone-t2/
14:23 < morfoh> rxr: ZT: Erleuchtung --> s/Luminosity/Luminocity/
14:25 < rxr> thanks
14:25 < rxr> for this repo morfoh and mnemoc have write access right now
14:26 < morfoh> rxr: s/properitärem/proprietärem/
14:26 < karasz> hmm...
14:26 < morfoh> rxr: thanks for the repo ;)
14:26 < karasz> libx11 and libxaw are built fine
14:26 < karasz> but still some packages complain that cannot find -lx11 or -lxaw...
14:28 < karasz> any ideeas?
14:29 < Baldzius> karasz: what packages
14:29 < karasz> last one is sonypid
14:29 < karasz> but others too
14:29 < karasz> gcc sonypid.o -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -lXtst -o sonypid
14:29 < karasz> !> /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/4.0.2/../../../../x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/bin/ld: cannot find -lX11
14:30 < rxr> karasz: we try to translate then on the fly for X11R7. maybe it fails for this package
14:30 < Baldzius> -L/usr/X11R6?lib ?
14:31 < karasz> Baldzius: ?
14:31 < karasz> ah yeas
14:31 < karasz> 64 related
14:33 < karasz> hmm, wrong
14:33 < karasz> there is /usr/lib/X11R6/lib/libX11.so
14:33 < karasz> but that is host
14:33 < karasz> let's check build environ...
14:34 < karasz> right
14:34 < karasz> in build environ libX11 is somewhere else
14:35 < karasz> `/usr/X11R7/lib64/libX11.so`
14:38 < morfoh> initial import of T2PloneSkin done
14:40 < rxr> karasz: is the buildlog online ?
14:40 < karasz> you wanna check?
14:40 < mnemoc> isn't it obvious? :)
14:40 < karasz> log... there is a regression
14:40 < karasz> which will be replaced in some minutes with a fresh one
14:41 < karasz> old regression -> http://www.x5.ro/regressions/desktop/regressions.html
14:41 < karasz> mnemoc: must i state every time that i am earless?
14:41 < karasz> :D
14:42 < karasz> this time i undesrtood build instead of buildlog
14:42 < karasz> in the mean time rxr
14:42 < karasz> libusb builds if marked NOPARALLEL
14:43 < rxr> karasz: ah ic
14:43 < rxr> karasz: we only translate X11R6/lib64 into X11/lib64 but do not add it just for /lib
14:43 < Baldzius> karasz: i'll do that for libusb as i has a new version for it, now testing on ref
14:43 < rxr> I can provide a patch in some minutes
14:44 < karasz> ??
14:44 < karasz> !> usr/lib64/transcode/af6_decore.la contains build system paths!
14:44 < karasz> !> The package (or a dependency) should possibly flagged with "LIBTOOL-QUIRK"
14:44 < Baldzius> ignore
14:45 < Baldzius> it's not the last message, you'll see more
14:45 < karasz> yes, the fact that it failed...
14:46 < Baldzius> look in log, i am sure it wasn't due that
14:47 < karasz> now i am waitin for build to finnish, make a regression and put uit online
14:50 < karasz> btw rxr, i must say that i admire your calm sometimes ;)
14:50 < karasz> ^^ just grepped through the ML
14:59 < karasz> rxr..?
14:59 < karasz> if you still want there is the new regression
14:59 < karasz> http://www.x5.ro/regressions/desktop/regressions.html
15:00 < rxr> karasz: ?
15:00 < karasz> the new regression
15:02 < rxr> 14:50 < karasz> btw rxr, i must say that i admire your calm sometimes ;)
15:02 < rxr> ?
15:03 < karasz> i grepped through the ML
15:03 < karasz> and i foun a certain reply
15:08 < karasz> rxr found the regression helpfull?
15:12 < mnemoc> rxr: finally i got stage 2 of the installer of my mnemosyne running BUT it doesn't detect my cdrom, kiss doesn't find /dev/tty and dm-mod module is not present :\
15:13 < karasz> -> Creating output image ...
15:13 < karasz> cp: cannot stat `/usr/src/t2-trunk/build/desktop-2.2.0-alpha-x86-64-athlon64-desktop/usr/bin/fget': No such file or directory
15:14 < karasz> should I x fget?
15:14 < morfoh> mnemoc: what was the CSS property I've to change for public visible elements ... I changed .state-visible but it doesn't work
15:14 < karasz> even X fget?
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15:15 < mnemoc> morfoh: firefox -> web developer -> information -> 'display id and class'
15:15 < mnemoc> karasz: yes
15:19 < karasz> mnemoc: ack
15:19 < mnemoc> morfoh: member.css -> .state-visible works
15:20 * mnemoc loves Web developer bar
15:24 < morfoh> mnemoc: strange ... now it works on my site too ... it seems it isn't refreshing correctly
15:24 < mnemoc> :)
15:24 < mnemoc> or not saving :)
15:24 < mnemoc> because i saw it green here before i change it to red
15:28 < morfoh> mnemoc: hehe ... same did I ;)
15:29 < rxr> so - one more scanner supported by our driver ,-)
15:29 < rxr> and hopefully one more scanner permanently in the office - one can never have enough equipment ,-)
15:29 < rxr> nice thing the AV3850 anyway
15:31 < rxr> .o(2.090,00 EUR - 2.307,09 EUR)
15:31 < rxr> http://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/OffersOfProduct/355436_-avision-av3850su-avision.html
15:31 < mnemoc> woh
15:32 < mnemoc> what an expensive piece of ... scanner
15:33 < rxr> mnemoc: I only have this professional scanners here ..
15:33 < rxr> no el-chepo crap for end-users to scan their holiday slides ...
15:33 < rxr> if it would not be pro scanners they wouold not throw money into .de for a Mac driver and even before test scanners to the linux driver developer guy ...
15:34 < rxr> quite a nice company - if one ever needs a good scanner grab an Avision one ,-)
15:34 < rxr> those current devices scan up to 35 pages per minute duplex and such ...
15:34 < rxr> anf they officially support Linux and Mac with a driver written by someone you can trust ,-)
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15:34 < rxr> ok - enough pr for now ,-)
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15:35 [@ChanServ] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ owl ] [ valentin]
15:35 [ Baldzius] [ karasz] [ morfoh] [ rxr ] [ _Ragnar_]
15:35 [ CIA-7 ] [ LMJ ] [ mtr_ ] [ sepp_]
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15:35 * rxr booting into this colorful hobby os
15:40 < morfoh> mnemoc: I think ... this dark gray color for .state-visible is ok for now ;)
15:49 < karasz> hmmm
15:50 < karasz> why is dlname='' in readline.la?
15:52 < valentin> moin
15:52 < valentin> rxr: see query
15:52 < karasz> moin valentin
15:59 < mnemoc> morfoh: T2 powered,... what about a T2 instead of the logo?
15:59 < mnemoc> morfoh: on 'orange'
16:15 < morfoh> hmmm ... you don't like it that way ?
16:19 < karasz> so, anyone cares to take a look at the regression on trunk?
16:19 < rxr> karasz: we care - but we can not jump up immediatly because we sit on the desk and have to work ..
16:19 < rxr> at least mnemoc and I ,-)
16:20 < karasz> i didn't meant to be impatient
16:20 < karasz> i just thought that you missed the post
16:25 < mnemoc> morfoh: the T2 is not clear enough for the 'powered by' logo imo
16:25 < mnemoc> rxr: :)
16:26 < mnemoc> karasz: i have it bookmarked :)
16:26 < karasz> np, mnemoc
16:26 < karasz> it will be there for a while
16:26 < karasz> as I have to do smth else myself
16:28 < mnemoc> karasz: start one at 2.1-test? ,-)
16:28 < karasz> mnemoc: if you want me to ;)
16:29 < mnemoc> karasz: that would be very nice from you
16:29 < karasz> ack
16:29 < karasz> svn now ;)
16:29 < karasz> but only on 64
16:29 < karasz> what do you want me to build?
16:29 < mnemoc> yes, same arch
16:30 < mnemoc> and if it's possible same target
16:30 < karasz> svn co /http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/.... ?
16:30 < karasz> target was desktop
16:31 < karasz> http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/tags/2.1.1.1/ ??
16:31 < mnemoc> http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/branches/2.1-test/
16:33 < morfoh> mnemoc: ok ... I'll change it ... but first I'm away for a while ... bbl ;)
16:33 < karasz> cu morfoh
16:33 < morfoh> cu
16:33 * morfoh is away: A+
16:34 < mnemoc> morfoh: T on orange and 2 on blue will link it to the logo :)
16:35 < morfoh> mnemoc: we'll see ;)
16:35 < mnemoc> morfoh: go!
16:35 < karasz> Checked out revision 15254.
16:35 < morfoh> mnemoc: YES Sir !!!
16:35 * mnemoc nods
16:36 < karasz> mnemoc: can i reuse 2.1 stable downloads?
16:37 < mnemoc> karasz: Download -alt-dir ../2.1-whatever-the-download-are
16:37 < karasz> i thought i will make a symlink...
16:37 < karasz> is that wrong?
16:38 < mnemoc> download/ can be a symlink
16:38 < karasz> ok that i was thinkin' about
16:39 < karasz> now -required...
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16:42 < sepp> moin
16:43 < mnemoc> moin sepp
16:44 < sepp> hi mnemoc :)
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16:55 < nzg> moin
16:55 < sepp> moin nzg
16:59 < rxr> moin sepp and nzg
17:01 < sepp> hi rxr
17:05 < nzg> hi rxr, sepp
17:08 < karasz> moin to all (whom i didn't greeted yet)
17:08 < karasz> me off a little
17:40 < rxr> so - cu
17:40 < rxr> /we awa
17:40 < rxr> y
17:40 < mnemoc> cu rxr
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18:45 < misl> hi folks
18:45 * morfoh is back
18:45 < morfoh> hi misl ;)
18:45 < morfoh> misl: good timing again ;)
18:45 < misl> :)
18:45 < morfoh> rehi *
18:49 < mnemoc> http://www.rocklinux.net/pipermail/rock-devel/2006-February/002020.html
18:49 < mnemoc> wb misl, morfoh
18:49 < misl> hi mnemoc
18:52 < CIA-7> aldas * r15255 /trunk/package/www/firefox/ (5 files): * updated firefox (1.5 -> 1.5.0.1)
18:54 < morfoh> thx mnemoc
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19:22 < karasz> re, back again...
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19:45 < CIA-7> aldas * r15256 /trunk/package/editors/geany/geany.desc: * repriorized geany after gtk+
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19:52 < rxr> re
19:54 < rxr> mnemoc: that uenvent is known
19:56 < rxr> we already updated to he udevstart less udev?`
19:59 < mtr_> we are at udev 083, udevstart is still included
20:00 < mnemoc> ah, ok... i though that could be the cause why stage2 didn't detect my devices :(
20:01 < karasz> mnemoc: still downloading :(
20:02 < mnemoc> karasz: what mirror?
20:07 < karasz> hmmm i dunno
20:08 < karasz> gsmp
20:08 < karasz> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/mirror/t2-source/2.1 2.1-test
20:09 < rxr> mnemoc: what udev id in your build ?
20:10 < karasz> but i guess that it is due to the fact that my older dld dir contained minimal, not desktop
20:11 < mnemoc> rxr: the one at trunk.... 032
20:11 < mnemoc> err 083
20:13 < rxr> do we already have this udevstart-less flavour ?
20:13 < rxr> jsaw: what about the udev++ plan ?
20:14 < mnemoc> minimal_cd1.iso 149435280 83% 2.34kB/s 3:33:47
20:17 < rxr> mnemoc: uploading to ?
20:18 < mnemoc> from build server to office :(
20:19 < rxr> from build server to you? or to gsmp or so ?
20:20 < mnemoc> to me
20:20 < _Ragnar_> who here is recently building t2 on 64 bit?
20:20 < rxr> me
20:20 < rxr> on x86-64 and ppc64
20:20 < rxr> and jsaw
20:21 < _Ragnar_> does gnome compile for you?
20:21 < rxr> mnemoc: if you publish I can help tacking your issue down
20:21 < rxr> _Ragnar_: oh - gnome - well - I do not exaclty care too much about that piece of ....
20:21 < rxr> _Ragnar_: but yes - it built IIRC
20:21 < mnemoc> rxr: once here i'll do
20:22 < _Ragnar_> gtk and kdelibs don't seem to fing libjpeg in /usr/lib64
20:22 < rxr> oh
20:22 < _Ragnar_> find*
20:22 < rxr> well - my last system build is form before this libjpeg lib64 migration
20:22 < _Ragnar_> >.<
20:23 < LMJ> AHHAA, firefox updated ;)
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22:03 < CIA-7> amery * r15257 /trunk/package/base/mkinitrd/mkinitrd.sh: * added dm-mod (device-mapper) to the list of modules installed on initrd
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23:59 < CIA-7> aldas * r15258 /trunk/package/emulators/gens/ (gcc4.patch gens.desc): * added gens/gcc4.patch
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