--- Log opened Wed Jan 25 00:00:20 2006
00:00 < CIA-2> aldas * r15026 /trunk/package/develop/gwenhywfar/gwenhywfar.desc: * updated gwenhywfar (1.19.2 -> 1.99.4)
00:05 < CIA-2> aldas * r15028 /trunk/package/security/libchipcard2/ (libchipcard2.conf libchipcard2.desc): * updated libchipcard2 (1.9.15beta -> 1.9.19beta)
00:05 < CIA-2> aldas * r15029 /trunk/package/office/aqbanking/ (aqbanking.conf aqbanking.desc uic-includehints.patch): 
00:05 < CIA-2> * updated aqbanking (1.6.1 -> 1.9.2beta)
00:05 < CIA-2> * removed uic-includehints.patch - obsolete
00:07 < CIA-2> aldas * r15027 /trunk/package/security/openhbci2/ (openhbci2.conf openhbci2.desc): * updated openhbci2 (1.9.3 -> 1.9.4)
00:07 < CIA-2> aldas * r15030 /trunk/package/office/qbankmanager/ (qbankmanager.desc uic.patch): 
00:07 < CIA-2> * updated qbankmanager (0.9.29-2 -> 0.9.33)
00:07 < CIA-2> * removed uic.patch - obsolete
00:10 < Baldzius> jsaw: it would be nice if you could test libchipcard2 on x86_64
00:16 < morfoh> Baldzius: to get that "high" you have to do a lot of training :p
00:17 < Baldzius> :)
00:19 < morfoh> :)
00:29 < CIA-2> aldas * r15031 /trunk/package/graphic/xsane/xsane.desc: * updated xsane (0.99 -> 0.991)
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01:19 < CIA-2> jsaw * r15032 /trunk/package/gnome2/evolution-data-server/ (4 files): * fix evolution-data-server (for 64bit)
01:20 < CIA-2> jsaw * r15033 /trunk/package/attic/nautilus-media/: * remove nautilus-media, it's old and deprecated
01:20  * mnemoc has lot to merge
01:24 < madtux> u are talking too much
01:25 < madtux> WORK WORK
01:27 < mnemoc> clip clip sql sql clip clio
01:27 < mnemoc> clip
01:27 < madtux> nah
01:27 < madtux> merge
01:56 < karasz> re
01:56 < karasz> mnemoc: i am doin quite fine on the webserver :)
01:56 < karasz> all the stuff is installed, pgsql configured
01:57 < karasz> i am fightin' with lighttpd and tomorow with qmail o_o
01:57 < mnemoc> i have never tried runit as supervisor with sysvinit as init
01:57 < mnemoc> but you need a supervisor to run lighttpd and qmail
01:58 < karasz> i made some workaround
01:58 < karasz> files in init.d
01:58 < karasz> qmail and light starts ok
01:58 < karasz> but light only gives me 403 ...
01:58 < mnemoc> dirty boy
01:58 < karasz> yeah
01:59 < karasz> ugly and dirty that's me ;)
01:59 < karasz> what user should own files in docroot of light?
02:00 < mnemoc> i use http
02:00 < karasz> light does not create any user on emerge...
02:02 < mnemoc> # cat /etc/opt/lighttpd/lighttpd.conf
02:02 < mnemoc> server.bind = "192.168.10.44"
02:02 < mnemoc> server.port = 80
02:02 < mnemoc> server.username = "http"
02:02 < mnemoc> server.groupname = "http"
02:02 < mnemoc> server.modules = ( "mod_fastcgi", "mod_accesslog", )
02:02 < mnemoc> include "mime-types.conf"
02:02 < mnemoc> fastcgi.server = ( ".php" => ( "localhost" => ( "socket" => "/var/run/lighttpd/php-fastcgi.socket", "bin-path" => "/opt/lighttpd/bin/php", )))
02:02 < mnemoc> server.document-root = "/var/empty"
02:02 < mnemoc> accesslog.filename      = "/var/opt/lighttpd/log/access.log"
02:02 < mnemoc> server.errorlog         = "/var/opt/lighttpd/log/error.log"
02:05 < karasz> /opt/lighttpd/bin/php ??
02:05 < karasz> i have only /opt/lighttpd/bin/spawn-fcgi ....
02:07 < mnemoc> mine -l php | grep '/php$'
02:07 < karasz> /opt/lighttpd/bin/php
02:07 < karasz> sorry
02:07 < karasz> php: usr/bin/php
02:07 < karasz> php: usr/include/php
02:07 < karasz> php: usr/lib/php
02:07 < karasz> php: usr/share/doc/php
02:07 < karasz> php: var/adm/cksums/php
02:08 < karasz> php: var/adm/dependencies/php
02:08 < karasz> php: var/adm/descs/php
02:08 < karasz> php: var/adm/flists/php
02:08 < karasz> php: var/adm/md5sums/php
02:08 < karasz> php: var/adm/packages/php
02:08 < mnemoc> ehm
02:08 < mnemoc> the first was enough
02:08 < mnemoc> on mnemosyne i use a custom prefix
02:08 < mnemoc> http://svn.exactcode.de/mnemosyne/mnemosyne/trunk/pkg_conf/php.conf
02:08 < karasz> yeah, now that i read that....
02:09 < karasz> hmm....
02:09 < karasz> i must go now
02:09 < karasz> i will lok in it tomorrow
02:09 < karasz> even look
02:09 < mnemoc> gn8 karasz 
02:09 < karasz> cu all
02:09 < karasz> u2 mnemoc 
02:09 < mnemoc> you shouls try mnemosyne ,-)
02:09 < karasz> and take care of yourself ;)
02:09 < mnemoc> should*
02:10 < karasz> bye
02:10 < mnemoc> bye
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04:52 < raamcm> Hi guys
04:58 < madtux> hi
05:12 < raamcm> I got again some errror
05:17 < raamcm> Hi jsaw and rxr
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08:13 < rxr> re
08:18 < rxr> from gvim I can also not paste into OOo ...
08:31 < rxr> did I mention OOo sorts into my personal sucking level in the already highly sucking gnome area?
09:28 < raamcm> Hi rxr
09:33 < rxr> hi raamcm 
09:35 < raamcm> I face again same problem
09:35 < raamcm> wht can i do
09:38 < raamcm> rxr ru there
09:43 < rxr> I'm here but writing a essay or whatever over John Maeda that needs to be ready tomorrow morning at 10 o'clock
09:44 < rxr> which doe snot leave me much time to do anything else than fighting this OOo beast ...
09:44 < rxr> and typing
09:44 < rxr> now that the classis Mozilla is naed SeaMonkey, one could rename OOo into Mozilla ...
09:47 < raamcm> ok
09:47 < raamcm> but i have one more problem about build 
09:47 < raamcm> plz give other way 
09:47 < raamcm> sorry plz indro another guy to help
09:49 < rxr> mnemoc, valentin, jsaw, morfoh, karasz, Baldzius are all fine to help
09:49 < rxr> raamcm: you could write some lines and the next time I switch the desk I take a quick look
09:49 < raamcm> Ok fine
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09:56 < raamcm> Hi jsaw
09:57 < karasz> moin all
09:58 < LMJ> good morning
10:14 < karasz> bonjour SerWou
10:14 < LMJ> hello karasz 
10:24 < rxr> mon LMJ 
10:24 < LMJ> moin LMJ
10:24 < LMJ> lol
10:25 < LMJ> moin rxr 
10:25 < LMJ> works better ;)
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10:30 < Baldzius> good morning LMJ rxr karasz
10:31 < LMJ> hello Baldzius 
10:35  * rxr coffee and shaving ... - cu
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10:39 < karasz> moin Baldzius 
10:40 < karasz> what's your problem raamcm ?
10:44 < karasz> any php guy here?
10:45 < karasz> whta is supposed to do the followin' line?
10:45 < karasz> <?php print $_SERVER["PHP_SELF"]; ?>
10:50 < raamcm> sorry guys
10:50 < raamcm> i went in canteen
10:51 < raamcm> actually i build very minimal router option
10:51 < raamcm> but that's give in no space errror
10:52 < karasz> explain last statement please
10:53 < rxr> raamcm: your HD is not actually filled ?
10:55 < mipe> karasz: it should print the php file name IIRC
10:55 < karasz> hmm i thought so, but actually it prints out just /index.php .....
10:56 < mipe> but thats correct isn't it?
10:56 < karasz> i dunno, i guess
10:56 < karasz> i mean the filename is corect
10:56 < karasz> i just waited something else to happen...
10:57 < mipe> what are you trying to do?
10:57 < mipe> :)
10:57 < karasz> me?
10:57 < karasz> nothing
10:57 < karasz> i just installed lighttpd and wanted to see if it works as expected
10:58 < mipe> well put <? phpinfo() ?> if you want to know more
10:58 < mipe> how php was configure etc...
10:58 < karasz> that works as expected..
11:02 < raamcm> No still space is there
11:02 < rxr> raamcm: paste more from your error then ,-)
11:03 < raamcm> ok
11:08 < raamcm> I gave clear screen
11:08 < raamcm> in 3 hrs back
11:08 < raamcm> what should i do now
11:12 < rxr> ?
11:12 < rxr> post the error message you got ,-)
11:13 < mipe> damm... fmutil.cnf not found
11:13 < mipe> on sane-backends, but i guess on lots of apps that uses tcfmgr
11:16 < rxr> tcfmgr what ?
11:17 < mipe> from tetex package
11:17 < mipe> kpathsea: Running mktexfmt latex.fmt
11:17 < mipe> tcfmgr: config file `tcfmgr.map' (usually in $TEXMFMAIN/texconfig) not found.
11:17 < mipe> fmtutil: config file `fmtutil.cnf' not found.
11:20 < rxr> never saw that
11:23 < mipe> that error comes with sane-backends building
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11:54 < mnemoc> moin
11:55 < Baldzius> hi mnemoc
11:55 < mipe> Error logs from desktop-2.2.0-alpha-x86-athlon-4-desktop:
11:55 < mipe> 1021 builds total, 1002 completed fine, 19 with errors.
11:55 < Baldzius> hi mipe
11:57 < mipe> hi Baldzius
11:57 < owl> moin
11:59 < Baldzius> moin owl
12:00 < karasz> hello mnemoc 
12:00 < owl> hi Baldzius 
12:00 < karasz> FEELIN BETTER?
12:00 < karasz> sorry
12:03 < mnemoc> hi Baldzius, mipe, karasz and owlinette
12:03 < karasz> errr... hi mnemoc 
12:04 < mnemoc> uhm?
12:05 < karasz> err... as in i responded to moin and after that you said hi...
12:07 < karasz> mnemoc: nevermind
12:07 < karasz> i have lighttpd up and workin :)
12:07 < mnemoc> good :)
12:07 < karasz> i guess i should go to qmail....
12:07 < karasz> but i do not think that i have enough time
12:08 < karasz> because i am here only today
12:34 < rxr> moin mnemoc 
12:34 < karasz> moin rxr
12:35  * rxr showering 
12:35 < rxr> off to Maeda discussion round too soon ..
12:35 < rxr> doomed uni work ...
12:35 < rxr> eating my precious time ...
12:35 < rxr> good that soon this exam and related days are over and I can go back to real work (tm)
12:43 < karasz> hmm qmail-scanner fails...
12:44 < CIA-2> jsaw * r15034 /trunk/package/multimedia/libdvdread/libdvdread.desc: * update libdvdread (0.9.4 -> 0.9.5)
12:50 < rxr> hi jsaw 
13:00 < jsaw> hi rxr 
13:08 < rxr> jsaw: /me curious, ever heared the name "John Maeda" ?
13:08 < jsaw> no
13:13 < rxr> good - I already questioned myself
13:14 < rxr> http://plw.media.mit.edu/people/maeda/
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13:20 < CIA-2> jsaw * r15035 /trunk/package/gnome2/gkrellm/ (gkrellm.conf gkrellm.desc libsm.patch): 
13:20 < CIA-2> * fix X11 library directory
13:20 < CIA-2> * copyright updates
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13:36  * rxr uni
13:36 < rxr> cu all
13:36 < jsaw> cu, rxr
14:13 < mipe> /quit
14:13 < mipe> heh
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15:40 < CIA-2> aldas * r15036 /trunk/package/security/nmap/nmap.desc: * updated nmap (3.95 -> 3.99)
15:41 < CIA-2> aldas * r15037 /trunk/package/multimedia/gxine/gxine.desc: * updated gxine (0.5.3 -> 0.5.4)
16:31 < CIA-2> aldas * r15038 /trunk/package/mail/dovecot/ (dovecot.desc dovecot.init): * updated dovecot (0.99.14 -> 1.0beta2)
16:32 < CIA-2> aldas * r15039 /trunk/package/network/dante/dante.desc: * updated dante (1.1.18 -> 1.1.19)
16:34 < CIA-2> aldas * r15040 /trunk/package/kde/digikam/ (digikam.conf digikam.desc): * updated digikam (0.8.0 -> 0.8.1)
16:35 < CIA-2> aldas * r15041 /trunk/package/archiver/dpkg/ (4 files): * updated dpkg (1.13.11 -> 1.13.12)
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17:57 < mnemoc> rehi
17:58 < madtux> yar
17:58 < mnemoc> hi madtux 
17:58 < madtux> hey nemo
17:59 < mnemoc> uh
18:01 < karasz> re mnemoc 
18:01 < mnemoc> hi karasz 
18:02 < karasz> qmail got me... :D
18:02 < karasz> it is like a wet slug...
18:02 < madtux> ph34r
18:02 < karasz> i can't catch it...
18:04 < mnemoc> karasz: strace is your friend
18:04 < karasz> nah
18:04 < karasz> i didn't got that far
18:05 < karasz> right now i am in the o.o phase
18:05 < karasz> like the sayin' `when i do not understand some i look at it...`
18:06 < karasz> i don't even know what to launch....to get daemon workin'
18:06  * karasz is ashamed
18:07  * karasz readin' http://www.lifewithqmail.org/
18:07 < mnemoc> LWQ is evil
18:08 < mnemoc> it promote the wrong way of using qmail
18:08 < mnemoc> and people usually fail to use qmail against it's nature
18:08 < madtux> mnemoc, is evil too.
18:09 < karasz> mnemoc: this i read from lwq    `Maildir more reliable, less MUA support`
18:10 < mnemoc> ?
18:13 < karasz> Mailbox	format	Name	Location	defaultdelivery	Comments 
18:13 < karasz> mbox	Mailbox	$HOME	./Mailbox	most common, works with most MUA's 
18:13 < karasz> maildir	Maildir	$HOME	./Maildir/	more reliable, less MUA support
18:15 < mnemoc> ah ok
18:15 < mnemoc> direct MUA
18:15 < mnemoc> maybe
18:16 < karasz> maybe
18:16 < karasz> so if lwq is evil do you know a better place for starters?
18:16 < mnemoc> via IMAP or POP MUAs just know it's fast and reliable :)
18:16 < mnemoc> http://cr.yp.to/qmail.html
18:17 < _Ragnar_> wrong way of using qmail?
18:17  * _Ragnar_ looks at mnemoc questioningly
18:17 < mnemoc> via sysvinit and hackery
18:18 < karasz> :D
18:18 < karasz> sounds like me...
18:18 < karasz> sysvinit at least...
18:18 < karasz> how did you said about me? dirty and what?
18:19 < mnemoc> just dirty
18:19 < karasz> nah it was smthing else too but i can't remember...
18:19 < karasz> right, just dirty
18:39 < rxr_> re
18:39 < karasz> re rxr_ 
18:39 < mnemoc> wb rxr_ 
18:41 < rxr_> yeah high
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18:41 < Bart-> hi
18:41 -!- You're now known as rxr
18:42 < rxr> hi Bart- 
18:42 < Bart-> finally I forced T2 to boot and discovered what was wrong and I'd like to tell you about it, can I?
18:42 < rxr> sure ,-)
18:42 < madtux> tell us we would like to know
18:43 < rxr> hi miguel
18:43 < Bart-> I run T2 only to discover that some binaries were miscompiled
18:44 < Bart-> I had problems with CPU cooling fan while building T2 so after a few hours, machine was down for maintaince
18:45 < Bart-> then I contined building T2, wondering how quiet box I have after oiing the fans but it was quiet because CPU fan was rotating veery slow
18:46 < LMJ> good evening the chan
18:46 < Bart-> I discovered this today after trashing my Firefox while rebuilding with new options - fan stopped after about 2 hours of heavy load
18:48 < Bart-> so talking about T2, after rebuilding some packages, like embutils, runit, I can boopt T2 using unmodified kernel with initrd and scripts
18:48 < rxr> Bart-: ah ,-)
18:48 < Bart-> sorry guys for the noise, it was not your fault
18:49 < Bart-> these scripts really work
18:49 < mnemoc> what scripts?
18:49 < Bart-> inirdinit for example, udev with stantard template, etc
18:50 < mnemoc> :)
18:50 < Bart-> everything works as expected (except lots of binaries hat segfault)
18:51 < rxr> heat is no fun for a humble CPU ,-)
18:51 < Bart-> rxr, I was a bit suprised because this box has never beed under load for so many hours
18:52 < rxr> yeah - building t2 is a nice testbed for system stability ...
18:53 < Bart-> anyway, sorry again
18:57 < Bart-> now I only wonder how to shut down it cleanly since runit does not have halt, killall5
19:01 < rxr> mnemoc is the runit expet
19:01 < rxr> expert
19:01 < rxr> Baldzius: fetchmail 6.3.2 (Stable)
19:01 < rxr> Baldzius: Nmap 3.99 (Stable)
19:02 < mnemoc> Bart-: init 0 and init 6
19:02 < mnemoc> Bart-: but i did some helpers runit-* packages
19:02 < mnemoc> Bart-: they are pathetic, but replace the tools expected to exist which come on sysvinit
19:02 < Bart-> mnemoc, yeah, I fount thin in man page but shut down scripts complain about missing halt an killall5
19:02 < mnemoc> runit-* packages
19:03 < Bart-> ok, I'll check
19:03 < karasz> guys i will be outside the office till monday
19:03 < Bart-> I must first revise how much packages were trashed during build
19:03 < karasz> i know that you will miss me ;), but that's it
19:03 < Bart-> s/much/many/
19:03 < mnemoc> karasz: have fun
19:04 < karasz> thx mnemoc i will surely have
19:25 < CIA-2> aldas * r15042 /trunk/package/mail/fetchmail/ (4 files): * updated fetchmail (6.2.5 -> 6.3.2)
19:25 < Baldzius> rxr: done
19:25 < Baldzius> :)
19:25 < Baldzius> nmap: r15036
19:26 < Bart-> runit-shutdown is what I'm looking for
19:26 < mnemoc> Bart-: beware, their are just dump wrappers
19:28 < mnemoc> dumb*
19:28 < Bart-> well, I'd better check it organoleptically since I don't get what you mean ;]
19:29 < Bart-> aaha ;]
19:29 < Bart-> now it's clear
19:30 < mnemoc> http://svn.geeks.cl/oss/runit-shutdown/trunk/src/shutdown.sh <--- very advanced script :)
19:31 < Bart-> hey, looks good. I was thinking about even sipler wrapper while looking how to shut down the box
19:31 < mnemoc> http://svn.geeks.cl/oss/runit-shutdown/trunk/src/halt.sh :)
19:31 < mnemoc> halt -w should not halt
19:33 < Bart-> this feature is interesting: *)	echo "$PROG not implemented"	;;]
19:34 < mnemoc> QA :)
19:35 < Bart-> ok /me off to meet my brand new trash
19:36 < mnemoc> o_O
19:38 < Bart-> T2 with segfaulting pciutils and util-linux stuff
19:39 < Bart-> cannot even bring network up - Segmentation fault
19:39 < Bart-> su
19:39 < Bart-> oops
19:39 < Bart-> cu -
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19:49 < jsaw> re
19:49 < rxr> moin jsaw 
19:50 < jsaw> :)
19:50 < jsaw> did Bart- notice that I changed mkinitrd...?
19:51 < jsaw> (it was our fault that /dev/console was not there)
19:52 < mnemoc> *G*
19:56 < karasz> cu guys
19:56 < jsaw> cu karasz 
19:57 < CIA-2> aldas * r15043 /trunk/package/audio/xmms-crossfade/ (xmms-crossfade.conf xmms-crossfade.desc): * updated xmms-crossfade (0.3.8 -> 0.3.10)
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20:24 < jsaw> * libtool in Fedora releases is patched to handle multilib systems appropriatelyr. While this patch has been pushed upstream, it may not be in all distributions yet.
20:25 < jsaw> ^--- not even in upstream libtool yet
20:25 < jsaw> *gah*
20:25 < jsaw> how nice
20:26 < CIA-2> aldas * r15044 /trunk/package/games/gnuchess/ (gcc4.patch gnuchess.conf gnuchess.desc): * added gnuchess/gcc4.patch
20:30 < rxr> jsaw: .oO
20:32  * jsaw is quite fed up with fixing autocrap stuff
20:57 < CIA-2> aldas * r15045 /trunk/package/games/kobo_deluxe/ (gcc4.patch kobo_deluxe.conf kobo_deluxe.desc): 
20:57 < CIA-2> * updated kobo_deluxe (0.4pre8 -> 0.4pre10)
20:57 < CIA-2> * added gcc4.patch
20:58 < mnemoc> *** glibc detected *** corrupted double-linked list: 0x4037f88c *** <--- i hate this things
20:59 < _Ragnar_> yea O_O
21:00 < rxr> mnemoc: ack
21:00 < rxr> guess how nice they are in OOo sessions when you just typed your text ...
21:00 < mnemoc> :)
21:02 < mnemoc> in my case was a not explictly destroyed recordset
21:02 < mnemoc> so after 2163 loops, crashed
21:07 < CIA-2> aldas * r15046 /trunk/package/filesystem/mtd-tools/mtd-tools.desc: * updated mtd-tools (20051230 -> 20060125)
21:20 < rxr> n8 all
21:20 < jsaw> gn8 rxr
21:24 < CIA-2> aldas * r15047 /trunk/package/network/mutella/ (gcc4.patch mutella.desc): * added mutella/gcc4.patch
21:47 < CIA-2> aldas * r15048 /trunk/package/network/liferea/liferea.desc: * updated liferea (1.0.1 -> 1.0.2)
21:48 < CIA-2> amery * r15049 /trunk/package/network/nss_ldap/nss_ldap.desc: * updated nss_ldap (246 -> 247)
21:52 -!- Bart- [n=bart@osiris.osk.enformatic.pl] has joined #t2
21:52 < Bart-> rer
21:52 < jsaw> hi Bart- 
21:52 < jsaw> Bart-: are you using the mkinitrd after the updates?
21:53 < Bart-> jsaw, not sure. this one with mknod within the loop
21:54 < jsaw> that works?
21:54 < Bart-> yep
21:54 < mnemoc> :)
21:54 < LMJ> moin mnemoc 
21:54 < jsaw> :D
21:55 < jsaw> hi mnemoc LMJ 
21:55 < Bart-> mnemoc, for some reason runit complains about missing touch
21:55 < LMJ> hy jsaw 
21:55 < mnemoc> Bart-: many scripts need touch
21:55 < mnemoc> you can also fake it by: echo -n >> $1
21:56 < Bart-> is it possible that it can't see all paths from PATH?, is has: export PATH=/command:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin but behaves like it can't find /usr/bin/touch
21:56 < jsaw> o.O
21:56 < mnemoc> uhm
21:56 < mnemoc> and touch is there, right?
21:57 < Bart-> after creating symlink --> /bin/touch, runit shut mouth up
21:57 < mnemoc> uhm
21:58 < mnemoc> it's quite dumb to have at /bin/ a symlink to /usr/bin .... :)
21:58 < Bart-> and xorg hangs entire toy when killed
21:59 < mnemoc> can you remove the symlink and add an: echo "PATH=[$PATH]"; type -p touch; ls -alF `type -p touch`  ?
21:59 < mnemoc> wth?
21:59 < Bart-> sure but not today, I'm veery tired and working on another system
22:00 < mnemoc> :)
22:01 < Bart-> this is funny -> when Xorg crashes on startup, everything is fine but if it gets killed, box hangs
22:01 < mnemoc> .oO
22:01 < mnemoc> does it answer pings?
22:01 < Bart-> I can check this
22:02 < mnemoc> is Xorg configured properly?
22:02 < Bart-> ou, and I killed this damn bell ;]
22:02 < Bart-> is anyone who doesn't hate this feature? ;]
22:03 < Bart-> Xorg got a new, shiny config and works fine
22:04 < mnemoc> no hangs?
22:04 < Bart-> no hangs during work but Ctrl+Alt+BS == box dead
22:05 < mnemoc> box dead == no pong?
22:07 < Bart-> no what?
22:08 < mnemoc> ping/pong
22:08 < Bart-> i have only one box here, no way to check
22:08 < mnemoc> ok
22:08 < jsaw> Bart-: does the kbd react?
22:09 < jsaw> (num lock)
22:09 < Bart-> did not checked
22:11 < jsaw> I rather think X takes the keyboard with it
22:13 < Bart-> generally there is no reaction but don't know how about num lock, I'll try tommorow
22:15 < mnemoc> ssh is more usefull
22:15 < Bart-> s/mm/m/;/r/rr/
22:15 < Bart-> I wasn't using english for 13 years ;]
22:15 < jsaw> you can also start something like
22:16 < jsaw> while ps xa|grep X; do sleep 1; done; chvt 1
22:16 < jsaw> on the command line...
22:16 < mnemoc> sleep 3... so he can really go to vc/5 and kill it :)
22:16 < jsaw> (in some terminal as root)
22:17 < mnemoc> ah, sorry
22:17 < mnemoc> missread
22:17 < Bart-> jsaw, good idea with chvt
22:18  * jsaw had quite some fights with X and no other box to get in...
22:19 < Bart-> mnemoc, and something accesses disk every second performing something like writing 5MB in various places
22:19 < mnemoc> wifi fights without wired network are also fun
22:19 < mnemoc> you got a virus :)
22:19 < Bart-> the only suspected process was runit
22:22 < jsaw> O.o .oO(5MB??)
22:22 < Bart-> all rihgt, my fault, 5.1MB ;]
22:22 < jsaw> :p
22:23 < mnemoc> how did you messure it? :)
22:23 < mnemoc> measure*
22:23 < Bart-> it smells like 5.1 ;]
22:23 < mnemoc> :)
22:24 < Bart-> disk is rather loud and has visual indicator
22:25 < mnemoc> aha! you counted the blinks :)
22:26 < Bart-> yeah but this strange operation starts when runit enters stage 2, end when Xorg hangs the box
22:27 < Bart-> the only good thing about it is that I know how to turn it off - by starting Xorg and killing it ;]
22:31 < jsaw> watch system log for kernel OOPSes
22:34 -!- Postal [n=Postal@ool-457743f8.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #t2
22:34 < Postal> Hey all
22:35 < jsaw> hi Postal 
22:36 < Postal> there are no amd64 tarballs yet huh
22:36 < Postal> for 2,1,1
22:38 < mnemoc> tarballs are arch independent
22:39 < mnemoc> Bart-: runit start all services in parallel, than can perfectly be X itself trying to do something
22:39 < Bart-> jsaw, logs are clean but found a creature which was accessing disk - it was dhcpd started by runit
22:39 < Postal> ah... the 2.2.0 epsilon x86-64 iso works?
22:39 < mnemoc> Postal: well... works, as a beta++ release
22:40 < Postal> lol, anything huge that I should worry about.. and does it have the promise sata drivers?
22:41 < Postal> windows hates my promise drivers.. i always have to slipsteam them in
22:42 < Bart-> mnemoc, it wad dhcpd once per second and also something other what tried to access vcs every 10 seconds: agetty[4834]: /dev/vc/1: No such file or directory
22:44 < mnemoc> uhm
22:44 < Bart-> I could noyt use top because it is miscompiled - freezes after startup
22:44 < mnemoc> minimize the amount of services, and see
22:45 < mnemoc> what arch?
22:45 < Bart-> x87
22:45 < mnemoc> uhm
22:47 < jsaw> strange, isn't it...?
22:48 < jsaw> what's the flag to get rid of this:
22:48 < jsaw>  error: ISO C++ does not support 'long long'
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22:56 < Bart-> maybe you should disable -pedantic
22:57 < jsaw> yep, thanks
22:57 < Bart-> maybe means maybe, I had this problem long time ago with Xorg <- yep
22:58 < mnemoc> == 15:21:19 =[5]=> Building java/eclipse [3.1.1 2.1-test].
22:58 < mnemoc> == 01/25/06 18:58:32 =[5]=> Finished building package eclipse.
22:58 < mnemoc> it takes less than 40m using sun's :(
22:58 < jsaw> Bart-: it was the solution (found it with google already...)
22:59 < Bart-> ok, me\ ofF to sleep
22:59 -!- Bart- [n=bart@osiris.osk.enformatic.pl] has quit ["Who's General Failure and why he's reading my disk?"]
23:04 < owl> hello?
23:04 < owl> am i still alive? *hrm*
23:05 < jsaw> .oO(owl's ghost typing?)
23:05 < owl> nah, i had a lag of 157 :)
23:05 < jsaw> ah ic
23:08 -!- Postal [n=Postal@ool-457743f8.dyn.optonline.net] has quit ["Leaving"]
23:08 < owl> hi jsaw btw ;)
23:08 < jsaw> :)
23:08 < jsaw> hi owl
23:08 < owl> how are you?
23:09 < jsaw> so and so
23:09 < owl> uh? want to speak?
23:10 < jsaw> now that I finished my Dr., I'm thinking about the future... I mean, after I stay two more years in this lab
23:10 < jsaw> don't know what'll come next
23:11 < jsaw> (or in other words, I need a goal besides my family)
23:11 < owl> uh. ok. 
23:16 < owl> need to sleep. gn8 :(
23:20 -!- keinek [n=keinek@200-70-160-181.mrse.com.ar] has joined #t2
23:20 < keinek> hi
23:36 < CIA-2> jsaw * r15050 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtkglextmm/gtkglextmm.desc: * FPIC-QUIRK needed
23:37 < CIA-2> jsaw * r15051 /trunk/package/database/tdb/tdb.desc: * outdated libtool* (LIBTOOL-QUIRK needed)
23:39 < CIA-2> jsaw * r15052 /trunk/package/multimedia/libcss/libcss.desc: * outdated libtool* (LIBTOOL-QUIRK needed)
23:40 < CIA-2> jsaw * r15053 /trunk/package/contrib/gnapster/gnapster.desc: * outdated libtool* (LIBTOOL-QUIRK needed)
23:45 < jsaw> gn8 all
23:46 < Baldzius> gn8 jsaw
23:49 < mnemoc> *yawn*
23:49 < keinek> hi mnemoc.
23:49 < keinek> please translate it.
23:49 < keinek> "Me llego la revista de LInux+ de febrero, con la nota, respetaron todo."
23:50 < keinek> "incluyeron una version de T2 Desktop en uno de los DVD que trae la revista"
23:50 < keinek> "pero la cagaron, creo que pusieron la version de Pentium 4"
23:50 < mnemoc> keinek: o_O
23:50 < keinek> espero que no se te complique traducir eso mnemoc
23:50 < keinek> queria comentarselos.
23:50 < keinek> :)
23:50 < keinek> cuando tenga version electronica mandare para todos.
23:51 < mnemoc> keinek: learn english lazy girl
23:51 < keinek> i understand.
23:51 < mnemoc> keinek: i got the one on polish :)
23:51 < keinek> but a bit.
23:51 < keinek> yes?
23:51 < keinek> pdf. in polish?
23:51 < keinek> where is?
23:51 < mnemoc> yep
23:51 < mnemoc> minute
23:52 < keinek> ok
23:52 < mnemoc> http://www.smlw.pl/~wytnijto/t2/pdf/t2_polish.pdf
23:53 < keinek> in polish is for free?
23:53 < mnemoc> nope
23:53 < keinek> t2-desktop-2.1.0-p4_cd1.iso  t2-desktop-2.1.0-p4_cd2.iso
23:53 < keinek> this is for pentium 4 right?
23:53 < mnemoc> <keinek> "I got the february issue of Linux+ magazine, with a short article, they honored everything."
23:53 < mnemoc> keinek: isn't it obvious?
23:54 < mnemoc> <keinek> "they included a version of T2 Desktop on one of the DVDs which the magazine brings"
23:54 < mnemoc> <keinek> "but they screwed it, i thing they included the Pentium 4 version"
23:54 < keinek> ahhh salio como Distro del mes
23:54 < keinek> :)
23:58 < keinek> t2-desktop-2.1.0-p4_cd1.iso  t2-desktop-2.1.0-p4_cd2.iso --> is pentium 4 right?
23:58 < keinek> but is only a little example of t2 powered.
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