--- Log opened Tue Jan 24 00:00:13 2006 00:02 < CIA-2> jsaw * r15017 /trunk/package/base/mkinitrd/initrdinit.sh: 00:02 < CIA-2> * moved /dev/console etc. generation right before 00:02 < CIA-2> execution of init 00:05 * _Ragnar_ pokes jsaw 00:05 * jsaw is not here 00:06 < Baldzius> :) 00:06 < jsaw> ;) 00:06 < jsaw> _Ragnar_: ? 00:06 < _Ragnar_> what about this libtool-quirk ... can I slap that on every package that has the warning, or is there more checking involved? 00:06 < _Ragnar_> *g* 00:07 < jsaw> you can do that, but, don't commit until my test with auto-fixing of libtool files is done, please 00:08 < _Ragnar_> ah ok 00:08 < _Ragnar_> then I won't do anything atm 00:11 < jsaw> there are quite some packages, that don't need the LIBTOOL-QUIRK anymore 00:12 < jsaw> but there is also at least one package that has a so heavily outdated libtool chain (recode) that it doesn't like to be auto-fixed... 00:12 < _Ragnar_> O_O 00:15 < jsaw> and there are packages (which includes KDE), that do not use automake, but some modification of it, still, automake gets called if you change anything... then screws the makefiles *gah* 00:16 < _Ragnar_> O_O 00:16 < _Ragnar_> complain to the authors? 00:20 < jsaw> yeah, sooner or later (when I have a fully working system again...) 00:23 < _Ragnar_> ^_^ 00:40 < mnemoc> rehi 00:49 < karasz> hi mnemoc 00:49 < karasz> did you had a full day? 00:56 < jsaw> 2146 builds total, 1010 completed fine, 0 with errors. 00:56 < CIA-2> aldas * r15018 /trunk/package/network/bittorrent/bittorrent.desc: * updated bittorrent (4.3.5 -> 4.3.6) 00:56 < jsaw> 23 packages disabled so far 00:58 < Baldzius> jsaw: can you look at mod_python, it's failure related to bash 3.1 00:58 < Baldzius> tried to fix but failed :) 00:59 < jsaw> when my build reaches it, ok 00:59 < mnemoc> :) 00:59 < Baldzius> good :) 01:00 < Baldzius> btw take a look at mod_perl :) 01:00 < Baldzius> it compiles locally but fails on ref (chroot) 01:00 < Baldzius> :))))))))) 01:00 < Baldzius> i'll try to fix "gcl" && "esdl" 01:01 < jsaw> wait, gcl is on my list already 01:01 < Baldzius> ok then -1 to me :) 01:01 < jsaw> Baldzius: want to have diff? 01:02 < Baldzius> to test? 01:02 < jsaw> yes 01:02 < jsaw> ? 01:02 < Baldzius> sure 01:03 < CIA-2> jsaw * r15019 /trunk/package/develop/gcl/ (gcl.conf gcl.desc strict-sh.patch): 01:03 < CIA-2> * fix configure for stricter bash (untested) 01:03 < CIA-2> * copyright updates 01:03 < jsaw> Baldzius: please try --^ 01:03 < Baldzius> min 01:05 < Baldzius> heh, jsaw it failed :) 01:06 < Baldzius> damn bash crap 01:11 < jsaw> also in configure? 01:11 < Baldzius> ./configure: line 2412: syntax error near unexpected token `(' 01:11 < Baldzius> !> ./configure: line 2412: ` case "`( uname -sr ) 2>/dev/null`" in' 01:12 < jsaw> oh, 01:12 < jsaw> then the error is before I assume 01:12 < jsaw> case "`( uname -sr ) 2>/dev/null`" in *) echo xx;; esac 01:13 < jsaw> ^-- work perfectly 01:14 < jsaw> Baldzius: it is on line 01:14 < jsaw> system=MP-RAS-`${AWK} '{print $3}' /etc/.relid'` 01:15 < jsaw> (line 1734) 01:15 < jsaw> maybe you can correct my patch 01:15 < Baldzius> system=MP-RAS-`${AWK} '{print $3}' /etc/.relid` ? 01:15 < jsaw> yes, one quote too much 01:16 < Baldzius> iirc i tried that, didn't help 01:18 < jsaw> <-- too tired to see clearly... 01:18 < Baldzius> yeah it's late :) 01:18 -!- nzg [n=tschmidt@p54AFEC66.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:19 < jsaw> gonna meat the mattress in a few minutes 01:19 < jsaw> cu ;) 01:20 < Baldzius> gn8 :) 01:53 -!- Netsplit adams.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: valentin, mtr, sepp_ 01:53 -!- Netsplit over, joins: valentin 01:53 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p83.129.180.74.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 01:53 -!- Netsplit over, joins: mtr 03:58 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@p54AF97E7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 04:14 -!- mtr [n=Michael@p54AF9896.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:02 -!- raamcm [n=root@59.145.141.50] has quit ["Leaving"] 05:02 -!- raamcm [n=root@59.145.141.50] has joined #t2 07:22 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178154036.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 07:22 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.1.1 and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! 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| The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/ 09:45 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Jan 14 21:42:03 2006] 09:45 [Users #t2] 09:45 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-2 ] [ karasz] [ morfoh] [ raamcm] [ sepp ] 09:45 [ axion_ ] [ demian] [ LMJ ] [ mtr_ ] [ rxr ] [ valentin] 09:45 [ Baldzius] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ owl ] [ rxr_ ] [ _Ragnar_] 09:45 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 18 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal] 09:45 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004 09:45 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 31 secs 09:46 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178164192.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 09:49 < rxr> re 10:02 < LMJ> hello rxr 10:03 < LMJ> ping rxr ? 10:06 < owl> moin rxr 10:08 < LMJ> moin owl 10:12 < owl> hi LMJ 10:15 < LMJ> owl, do you live in Germany ? 10:15 < owl> LMJ: yes. why? 10:15 < LMJ> brb, 2sec 10:17 < LMJ> back 10:18 < LMJ> where are usually located aeronautic companies in germany ? 10:22 < owl> aeronautic? you ask me questions... guess here in the region maybe (bavaria, arround munich) 10:24 < LMJ> Airbus related companies 10:25 < owl> airbus? puh. aehm. EADS e.g.? 10:25 < LMJ> yep 10:26 < owl> query 10:26 < LMJ> i answered to your pm 10:27 < owl> yep ;) 10:41 < jsaw> re 11:02 < rxr> pong 11:02 < rxr> hi LMJ owl jsaw 11:02 < LMJ> hello 11:02 < jsaw> hi rxr 11:02 < rxr> LMJ: I worked at pace here in berlin, those are doing CAD custom stuff for airplane interior planing ... 11:03 < rxr> LMJ: why do you ask ? 11:03 < LMJ> i applied for a linux job in france for EADS, they planned travels to Germany, i wanted to know if there is a specific aera for EADS in germany 11:05 < jsaw> LMJ: look also here: http://www.dlr.de/ 11:06 < LMJ> i don't understand german ; 11:08 < valentin> moin rxr, LMJ, jsaw 11:08 < LMJ> hello valentin and jsaw ;) 11:08 < jsaw> LMJ: top menu, click English 11:09 < jsaw> hi valentin 11:09 < jsaw> hi LMJ ;) 11:10 < LMJ> yep, i found it ;) 11:10 < valentin> LMJ: there is a dlr outpost in berlin, but i do not think this too relevant 11:10 < LMJ> k 11:11 < valentin> however, if you ever make your way into this town, you're wellcome to visit me :) 11:11 < LMJ> i will keep you in touch ;) 11:11 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@p54BEF73B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:12 < LMJ> at least, to learn Hello, thanks, and so on ;) 11:32 < CIA-2> jsaw * r15021 /trunk/package/mail/thunderbird/thunderbird.conf: * fix 64bit detection for mozconfig adaption 11:38 < jsaw> the expat update was not nice ... 11:58 < Baldzius> jsaw: i had no problem with expat on x86 ref build 12:00 < jsaw> yes, on a fresh build, no problem 12:00 < jsaw> but update amidst build screws it 12:00 < jsaw> (new revision number) 12:01 < jsaw> no, eh, not revision, 12:02 < jsaw> whatever the first number is called 12:02 < jsaw> ah, new "current" number 12:06 < Baldzius> hm 12:06 < Baldzius> well for me expat works good, even updated 12:06 < jsaw> but you still have libexpat.so.0 12:06 < jsaw> which most programs will use 12:06 < jsaw> the new one is libexpat.so.1 12:08 < jsaw> Baldzius: what does "ldd /opt/qt33/uic | grep expat" say? 12:08 < jsaw> eh 12:08 < jsaw> "ldd /opt/qt33/bin/uic | grep expat" 12:10 < Baldzius> bash-3.1# ldd /opt/qt33/bin/uic | grep expat 12:10 < Baldzius> libexpat.so.1 => /usr/lib/libexpat.so.1 (0xb6a80000) 12:10 < jsaw> so, you updated qt after expat update... 12:10 < Baldzius> can't say, don't remember :) 12:10 < jsaw> lucky you 12:11 < jsaw> whatever... I'm already rebuilding all expat dependant pkgs 12:12 < jsaw> (which includes glibc...???) 12:12 < Baldzius> hm, qt flist is dated december 7 12:12 < Baldzius> i doubt i updated qt after expat new version 12:13 < jsaw> .oO(?) 12:14 < Baldzius> now i can't say when i updated expat, because i had 2.0.0 here locally for long time 12:14 < Baldzius> only after ref build commited 12:32 < karasz> good morning to u all 12:34 < jsaw> hi karasz 12:35 < karasz> gcc fails on trunk crossbuild 12:36 < karasz> http://karasz.pastebin.ca/38340 12:40 < jsaw> what stage? 12:51 < karasz> 0 12:52 < karasz> i am on stable x86-64 and buid for PIII 13:11 < mnemoc> moin 13:11 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@p54BEFF0B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 13:11 < morfoh> moin 13:12 < mnemoc> moin morfoh 13:13 < LMJ> moin morfoh and mnemoc 13:13 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p83.129.182.93.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 13:13 < morfoh> hi LMJ 13:13 < mnemoc> moin master joda 13:14 < LMJ> hehe 13:14 < morfoh> wtf ... this connection is lagging 13:14 < mnemoc> you are lagging 13:20 < rxr> moin mnemoc 13:20 < rxr> moin morfoh 13:20 < morfoh> hi rxr 13:20 < mnemoc> moin rxr :) 13:21 < karasz> re 13:22 < karasz> moin mnemoc 13:22 < karasz> her kommrad 13:22 < karasz> hello rxr 13:22 < morfoh> moin karasz 13:23 < karasz> i know i missed a `r 13:23 < mnemoc> moin karasz 13:25 < jsaw> karasz: can you check if linux-header was correctly cross compiled? 13:25 < karasz> jsaw give me the instructions .. 13:26 < mnemoc> moin jsaw 13:28 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p83.129.180.74.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:37 < rxr> bibber 13:38 < rxr> after days of l.l.l. (too low temperature) on my digital thermometer, it now shows just -8.3 ... 13:40 < LMJ> 11°C here ;) 13:40 < LMJ> what a cold weather ;-) 13:41 < mnemoc> today it's cold here too, just 26°C 13:41 < morfoh> mnemoc: yes ... that sounds really cold :p 13:41 < mnemoc> after a week over 35 you feel it cold :p 13:42 < rxr> -20 is fun 13:42 < rxr> did not experience that for a long time if ever 13:42 < karasz> -18 here fro 3 day now 13:42 < mnemoc> rxr: what do you do to open the doors at -20? 13:42 < karasz> i am starting to think abt laying a pipe from here to mnemoc 13:43 < mnemoc> :) 13:55 -!- raamcm [n=root@59.145.141.50] has quit ["Leaving"] 14:00 -!- jsaw_ [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 14:00 -!- jsaw [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:02 < rxr> mnemoc: open the door ? 14:04 < valentin> mnemoc: it is quite dry here, so there is few ice on vertical surfaces 14:06 < mnemoc> rxr: we had snow just once in the last 100 years :) i was imagining the ice sealing the bottom of the doors 14:07 < mnemoc> valentin: but bellow the doors? 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14:22 < jsaw_> gotta go, cu later 14:22 < mnemoc> native pure-dietlibc builds are fun :) 14:22 < mnemoc> cu jsaw_ 14:39 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178187239.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 14:39 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.1.1 and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/ 14:39 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Jan 14 21:42:03 2006] 14:39 [Users #t2] 14:39 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-2 ] [ karasz] [ morfoh] [ rxr ] [ valentin] 14:39 [ axion_ ] [ demian] [ LMJ ] [ mtr_ ] [ rxr_ ] [ _Ragnar_] 14:39 [ Baldzius] [ jsaw_ ] [ mnemoc] [ owl ] [ sepp_] 14:39 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal] 14:39 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004 14:40 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 31 secs 14:45 * rxr wonders how a linux based product can become so broken as this Cisco AP ... 14:51 < LMJ> lol 14:53 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178180174.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:00 < mnemoc> damn headache... it seems i'll fall into faint 15:00 * mnemoc going for sugar 15:17 < karasz> mnemoc: you should try choickolate instead of sugar 15:17 < karasz> it has more nutrients and proteines than plain sugar 15:19 < mnemoc> i'll try, the sugar did nothing :\ 15:19 < mnemoc> i don't feel the hands... hate this feeling 15:21 < rxr> mnemoc: .oO 15:21 * rxr off to uni again 15:21 < rxr> cu later 15:49 < mnemoc> cu rxr 15:50 < mnemoc> karasz: yes, chocolate seems to have helped 15:50 < karasz> :D 15:50 < karasz> good 15:50 < karasz> but nevertheless you should check you out 15:51 < karasz> i am dlding 2.1.1 minimal pmmx 15:51 < karasz> when it will be installed i should svn ,,,,/tags/2.1.1 ? 15:52 < mnemoc> nah, 2.1-stable or 2.1-test 15:53 < karasz> diferences between stable and test? 15:53 < karasz> i mean the major ones... 15:54 < karasz> why did you forked out 2.1-test? 15:54 < mnemoc> to test some updates and merges 15:54 < mnemoc> i can't just drop gcc-3.4.5 into 2.1-stable 15:54 < mnemoc> or openssl 0.9.7i 15:54 < karasz> ohum 15:54 < karasz> i see 15:55 < karasz> i guess the only thing that is missing from stable is qmail-scan 15:55 < mnemoc> even if they claim to be 100% backward compatible they can produce important regressions 15:55 < karasz> which you adeed to trunk iirc 15:55 < mnemoc> karasz: qmail-scanner package is not ready for the stable branch 15:55 < karasz> i understand that 15:55 < mnemoc> but you can locally svn cp it 15:56 < karasz> so should i go with stable or test... 15:56 < karasz> that is the question 15:56 < mnemoc> depends :) 15:56 < karasz> but i guess i'll go stable 15:56 < karasz> it will be my webserver 15:56 < karasz> runnin 24/7 15:56 < mnemoc> 2.1-test will get 64bit-related merges soon 15:57 < karasz> webserver will not be 64 15:57 < karasz> it is an PIII 15:57 < mnemoc> 2.1-stable is fine 15:57 < karasz> i guess i'll go with stable 15:57 < karasz> so dld 2.1.1 pmmx stable than emerge stuff i need 15:58 < karasz> like lighttpd and qmail related stuff 15:58 < mnemoc> if you don't need X, that's fine 15:58 < karasz> no X 15:58 < karasz> i will be just a web-mail server 15:58 < karasz> no X at all 15:58 < karasz> the only GUI will be mc 15:59 < karasz> huh, i feel reliefed 15:59 < karasz> i can do stuff in parallel 16:00 < mnemoc> is that wrong? 16:00 < karasz> i was very annoyed by the perspective that i will have to do a webserver change online 16:00 < karasz> but now i can do it in parallel 16:01 < mnemoc> pound in front can help you to do switches and cheap load balancing 16:01 < karasz> testing stuff and when it is 100% only change the IP's 16:01 < karasz> nah, that is not the case 16:01 < karasz> i managed to get a silicon to replace my webserver 16:02 < karasz> so they will run in parallel until I decide that the new one is ok 16:02 < mnemoc> ok 17:37 < morfoh> re 17:38 < mnemoc> wb mofo 17:38 < mnemoc> h 17:38 < mnemoc> err 17:38 < mnemoc> morfoh 17:38 < morfoh> s:) 17:41 < karasz> hello kommrad 17:42 < morfoh> hey karasz-san 17:50 -!- madtux [i=miguel@pf0.hostarica.com] has joined #t2 17:50 < madtux> hi 17:51 < mnemoc> wb madtux 17:51 < madtux> thx mnemoc 18:35 -!- Bart- [n=bart@osiris.osk.enformatic.pl] has joined #t2 18:35 < Bart-> hi 18:35 < mnemoc> wb Bart- 18:35 < Bart-> anyone is interested in article about T2 published in polish Linux+ magazine? 18:36 < mnemoc> sure 18:36 < Bart-> grab a copy: http://www.smlw.pl/~wytnijto/t2/pdf/t2_polish.pdf 18:37 < mnemoc> transfering.... 18:37 < Bart-> it is in polish of course 18:38 < mnemoc> expectable :) 18:39 < Bart-> this mag is also available in UE 18:39 < madtux> heck if i can understand the chilean i think i can pretty much understand any other lang no matter how complicated it is 18:40 * madtux hides quickly 18:40 < mnemoc> thanks Bart-, downloaded fine 18:40 < mnemoc> madtux: tico is worse than any other spanish-like language 18:40 < madtux> mnemoc, talk to the hand :) 18:41 < mnemoc> madtux: did you see the author of that polish article? 18:42 < morfoh> .oO( but does anybody knew that keinek is able to write in polish ? )o 18:42 < madtux> mnemoc, yeah your boyfriend 18:42 < mnemoc> does anybody knew that keinek is able to write? 18:42 < mnemoc> o_O 18:42 < morfoh> madtux: :) 18:42 < morfoh> madtux: hi btw :) 18:42 < madtux> i though he used his hands stricktly for masturbation i am proud of the little one 18:42 < madtux> morfoh, greetings :) 18:43 < mnemoc> O_o 18:43 < morfoh> mnemoc: from where does madtux knows the preferences of keinek ? 18:43 < mnemoc> morfoh: personal experiences afaik 18:44 < madtux> morfoh, he once messed up and thought he was talking to mnemoc on private while he was a on a public chan 18:44 < morfoh> mnemoc: yeah ... I think so ... :) 18:44 < madtux> morfoh, this guys are just shameless 18:44 < morfoh> madtux: what did he said ? 18:44 < morfoh> :) 18:44 < madtux> ok i think i will get back to training now before mnemoc kills me 18:45 < madtux> morfoh, ask demian he knows 18:45 < mnemoc> uhm 18:46 < Bart-> mnemoc, jsaw_ , rxr: problem with booting t2-trunk is IMO neither udev nor runit related 18:47 < Bart-> mnemoc, jsaw_ , rxr: sbin/initrdinit:52, udevstart creates devices in /dev as expected, lots of then 18:47 < mnemoc> Bart-: paste? 18:48 < Bart-> mnemoc, what? I can paste init.log, here it is: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/IVCPaz41.html 18:48 < morfoh> f* lag 18:48 < karasz> O_o 18:48 < karasz> and again O_o 18:49 < mnemoc> Bart-: is dev/console created ? 18:49 < morfoh> I hate p2p users ... 18:49 < Bart-> mnemoc, jsaw_ , rxr: a few lines below udevstart (which works!), rootfs is created and devices are moved to /rootf/dev 18:50 < karasz> i tried to emerge mc on stable and guess what... 18:50 < Bart-> mnemoc, yes 18:50 < mnemoc> karasz: failed? 18:50 < karasz> Downloading xorg:download/mirror/X/X11R6.8.2-src.tar.bz2 ... 18:50 < karasz> ??? 18:50 < mnemoc> karasz: -deps=none :) 18:50 < karasz> i knew that now it is runnin with deps none 18:50 < mnemoc> karasz: autodeps are everywhere too greedy 18:50 < karasz> but still 18:50 < mnemoc> ? 18:50 < karasz> a whole Xorg for mc... 18:51 < mnemoc> because on a reference build mc likes to have xorg libraries 18:51 < karasz> but it is not gnomes mc 18:51 < karasz> it is the lighter one 18:51 < karasz> anyway... 18:51 < mnemoc> blame the author, not me 18:52 < karasz> I am not blaming anyone here 18:52 < mnemoc> dependencies are not hardcoded, they are detected on reference builds 18:52 < karasz> just express my wonder... 18:52 < karasz> ok 18:52 < mnemoc> -deps=none 18:52 < Bart-> mnemoc, jsaw_ , rxr: so /dev is empty, everything sits in /rootfs/dev/*. Then exec switch_root /rootfs $init should (as I think) run init telling it to use /rootfs as / but init complains that there are no devices in /dev 18:52 < karasz> yup 18:53 < Bart-> bots, runit-init and sysv init crash for the same reason - no devices available in /dev 18:53 < Bart-> *both 18:53 < mnemoc> uhm 18:55 < Bart-> so I suppose, there can be something wrong with switch_root 18:55 < mnemoc> morfoh: you are more involved on 2.2 peculiarities, ideas? 19:00 -!- morfoh_ [n=jeru@p54BED795.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 19:00 < morfoh_> mnemoc: can you kick morfoh ? 19:00 < morfoh_> operator ... 19:01 < mnemoc> ghost him 19:01 < mnemoc> kicking would return you your nick 19:01 < mnemoc> wouldn't 19:02 -!- mode/#t2 [+o morfoh_] by ChanServ 19:02 <@morfoh_> mnemoc: what do I have to do ? 19:02 < mnemoc> /msg nickserv help ghost 19:03 <@morfoh_> mnemoc: thanx ;) 19:03 < mnemoc> yw operator 19:03 <@morfoh_> mnemoc: I mean ... stank you very much :) 19:04 <@morfoh_> hmmm ... I had to wait minutes to get a prompt on a remote shell :/ 19:11 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@p54BEFF0B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 19:12 -!- morfoh_ is now known as morfoh 19:22 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 19:23 < misl> hi folks 19:24 < mnemoc> hi misl 19:38 < rxr> re 19:39 < rxr> mnemoc: is it normal, that I can not paste into OOo from other applications on my screen? such as kmail, konqueror, ... ? 19:39 < mnemoc> i can paste to gtk apps, but i have never tried to paste to kde apps 19:40 < rxr> not paste to 19:40 < mnemoc> rxr: did it build with kde support? 19:40 < rxr> pas from into OOo ... 19:40 < rxr> paste out of ooo seems to work 19:40 < mnemoc> uhm 19:40 < rxr> the line before should: not paste from, into OOo ... 19:41 < rxr> I built with kde support I think 19:41 < rxr> but kde uses the normal X selection stuff 19:41 < rxr> works just fine between gnome and kde stuff 19:41 * mnemoc starting ooo 19:42 < mnemoc> i just pasted from thunderbird to ooo without problems 19:43 < mnemoc> and from ooo to thunderbird 19:43 < mnemoc> but i don't have k* to test :\ 19:48 < rxr> ok starting moozilla 19:49 < rxr> hm - from mozilla it does indeed work :-((( 19:57 < demian> hi 19:58 < demian> and bye 19:58 -!- demian [n=Jonathan@201.206.44.210] has left #t2 [] 20:27 < rxr> http://openstudio.media.mit.edu/collection/piece?doc=92d5971807824e62010812296cbb0ee2 20:27 < rxr> ^- aterpiller ? 20:30 < mnemoc> timeout :( 20:31 < mnemoc> millepede... quite bork-shaped :) 21:04 < rxr> hehe 21:04 < rxr> so - n8 all 21:04 < rxr> damn uni crap 21:04 < rxr> have fun mnemoc 21:07 < Baldzius> gn8 rxr 21:07 < Baldzius> re :) 21:07 < Baldzius> how morfoh _got_ so high? :) 21:08 < karasz> black magic Baldzius :p 21:08 < Baldzius> :) 21:09 < Bart-> me\ ofF 21:09 -!- Bart- [n=bart@osiris.osk.enformatic.pl] has quit ["Who's General Failure and why he's reading my disk?"] 21:11 -!- mode/#t2 [+o Baldzius] by ChanServ 21:12 -!- mode/#t2 [-o morfoh] by ChanServ 21:12 <@Baldzius> X-files :) 21:13 <@Baldzius> !op all :) 21:13 -!- mode/#t2 [-o Baldzius] by ChanServ 21:18 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.69.3 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]"] 21:43 < CIA-2> jsaw * r15022 /trunk/package/textproc/xmlstarlet/ (4 files): 21:43 < CIA-2> * instead of adding libgcrypt.a, remove static linking of xml libs 21:43 < CIA-2> * copyright update 21:51 < CIA-2> aldas * r15023 /trunk/package/develop/gcl/strict-sh.patch: * appended gcl/strict-sh.patch to work (tested) 21:52 < Baldzius> jsaw: wanna test -- ^^ ? :) 21:53 < Baldzius> works what you mentioned yesterday 21:54 < jsaw_> Baldzius: svn up :) 21:55 < jsaw_> eh :(, 957 more packages to go until I hit gcl 21:55 < Baldzius> :))) 21:56 < jsaw_> :p 21:57 < Baldzius> balsa failed on your build? 21:58 < jsaw_> yep 21:58 < Baldzius> what do you think about error? 21:58 < jsaw_> .err already removed (after adding "O balsa" to pkgsel) ... 21:59 < jsaw_> :/ 21:59 < jsaw_> (low fixing priority...) 22:00 < Baldzius> 'k last thing, what do you think about marking all those old-outdated(unmaintained) packages as 0 (optional)? 22:01 < jsaw_> hmmm 22:01 < jsaw_> actually I would prefer some more templates for generic 22:02 < jsaw_> generic w/o template should build what's there. 22:02 < jsaw_> or we should move those packages to attic 22:03 < jsaw_> brb (coffee) 22:03 < Baldzius> whatever, just don't build them on ref 22:03 < Baldzius> i hate them :) 22:03 < jsaw_> hmmm, propose it to the ML 22:03 < mnemoc> attic is for broken but good-to-keep packages 22:04 < jsaw_> O.O 22:04 < mnemoc> to fix some day 22:04 < mnemoc> :) 22:04 < Baldzius> then we need broken_attic :) 22:04 < mnemoc> attic is always broken :p 22:04 < Baldzius> or attic2 22:04 < mnemoc> that's why those packages are there 22:05 < jsaw_> I thought ppl keep stuff on the attic only for remembrance... 22:05 -!- jsaw_ is now known as jsaw 22:05 < jsaw> ok, coffee, brb 22:05 < mnemoc> remembrance to fix them some day 22:05 < mnemoc> if someone is interested :) 22:06 < mnemoc> if the packages are not good-to-keep just svn rm them 22:10 < Baldzius> hm, in that case i svn rm'ed at least 30 packages :) 22:10 < Baldzius> well maybe less 22:11 < Baldzius> 1/2 of them - games 22:12 < Baldzius> s/i/i would/ 22:14 < jsaw> mnemoc: rather "oh look, we used that in the good ol' times" 22:14 < Baldzius> jsaw: looks like i have patch for mod_python, can you check why mod_perl fails on chroot 22:15 < jsaw> I will I will. But remember, I'm at [P] 155.000 22:17 < Baldzius> in that case /me investigate esdl <- last package on my _todo_ 22:17 < mnemoc> jsaw: but if we don't plan to fix them ever, why to keep them? 22:17 < mnemoc> jsaw: just for the fun of claiming to have had them once? 22:19 < jsaw> mnemoc: that was a joke (though with a grain of truth) 22:22 < mnemoc> :) 22:23 < mnemoc> i'm just asking about that grain of truth, ever- and ever+ limits on 'fix this package' plans 22:24 < jsaw> mnemoc: we simply have to do to many other things than to fix stuff that goes to attic folder 22:24 < karasz> re 22:24 < mnemoc> jsaw: ack, highly low priority 22:24 < mnemoc> .oO( highly low?? )o 22:24 < jsaw> :) 22:26 < jsaw> so, I'd say, some packages that are low priority, and do not build, may well be appended to attic, as attic is basically a ultra-low priority folder 22:26 < jsaw> Baldzius: just send your proposals to the ML 22:26 < mnemoc> jsaw: that's how i see it 22:26 < jsaw> if nobody responds, move 'em out of the way, but only if you are sure, these packages are _old_ 22:27 < mnemoc> ack 22:27 < mnemoc> deprecated 22:27 < Baldzius> 'k. got it :) 22:28 < mnemoc> wb kasak 22:28 < jsaw> yeah, hi bihadzs 22:28 < jsaw> eh karasz 22:29 < mnemoc> :) 22:30 < karasz> eh? 22:30 < karasz> kasak? 22:30 * karasz .oO (what was goin on since I left)Oo. 22:30 < jsaw> karasz: don't mind 22:31 < jsaw> mnemoc smoked to much, 22:31 < jsaw> and jsaw tries to be funny 22:31 < mnemoc> :) 22:31 < karasz> mnemoc: ?? 22:31 < karasz> you smoke? 22:32 < jsaw> 23:31 < jsaw> and jsaw tries to be funny 22:32 < jsaw> karasz: ----^ 22:32 < karasz> doh... 22:32 < mnemoc> karasz: don't take non technical stuff said here seriusly 22:32 < karasz> :p 22:33 < karasz> and who told you that i do? :p 22:33 < mnemoc> good :( 22:33 < mnemoc> :) 22:33 < karasz> anyway, returnin' to technical stuff, if I may 22:33 < jsaw> .oO(that means I should take technical stuff said here seriously) 22:33 < jsaw> let's talk about cold fusion 22:34 < karasz> xorg is haunting me... 22:34 < mnemoc> jsaw: your logic is failed 22:34 < karasz> quite much packs claim that they need xorg and freetype and so 22:34 < mnemoc> jsaw: !tech -> !serious doesn't say anything about tech 22:34 < karasz> i know -deps=none, but that is too radical 22:35 < jsaw> mnemoc: :p 22:35 < jsaw> .oO(my hopes have been destroyed) 22:35 < jsaw> karasz: example? 22:36 < mnemoc> jsaw: hey, that's just uncertain... not a _no_ 22:37 < karasz> jsaw: i do not know much abt cold fusion, but if you can make it gimme a cal, we'll think of something :p 22:37 * jsaw had enough of quantum mechanics for at least another month 22:37 < jsaw> so, don't talk about uncertainty... 22:37 < mnemoc> :p 22:37 < mnemoc> jsaw: sorry 22:37 < jsaw> karasz: k 22:38 * jsaw is delving into the lab 22:38 * karasz is waitin' on jsaw and thinkin' abt a pile of money .... 22:40 < karasz> emerge postgresql, openjade comes along O_o 22:40 < mnemoc> hey jsaw, where do you think you are going? 22:40 < karasz> mnemoc: let jsaw do his stuff so i can became rich ;D 22:40 < mnemoc> karasz: jade bindings probably 22:41 < jsaw> karasz: give -deps=none a try. I think, these packages only include editors 22:41 < mnemoc> karasz: nah, he is the jailed brain... not the money earner 22:41 < jsaw> mnemoc: not sure. For now, I'll stay another two years here in the lab. 22:41 < karasz> jailed brain is good 22:41 < karasz> lemme worry about money makin' :p 22:42 < mnemoc> jsaw: you don't sound happy about that 22:42 < jsaw> mnemoc: good intuition... and that w/o seeing my face! 22:43 * karasz in background 22:43 < karasz> but before that 22:43 < karasz> mnemoc: do you plan to stick around? 22:43 < mnemoc> stick where? 22:44 < karasz> around, as in do you plan to stay in #T2 today... and if yes for about how long 22:44 < mnemoc> jsaw: i'm not used to see faces 22:44 < jsaw> mnemoc: yeah, if I want to stay in science, I have to go abroad for about two years, but my family balks at it 22:45 < jsaw> karasz: mnemoc is usually here until he drops to bed... 22:45 < mnemoc> jsaw: what about decent work hours? 22:45 < karasz> usualy being the main word here... 22:45 < mnemoc> karasz: i'll ride home in 30 minutes, then i'll return after 1h, and stay for another 3-4h 22:45 * karasz wth i had my coffe so what is wrong??? 22:46 < mnemoc> jsaw: or working until 6am is part of the job? 22:46 < karasz> ok than i'll catch you later about qmail... 22:46 < jsaw> mnemoc: decent work hours? huh, did I ever talk about that? 22:46 < jsaw> mnemoc: no, I leave around 1am currently 22:46 < jsaw> mnemoc: still trying to shift more into the day 22:46 < mnemoc> jsaw: late enough for your daughters 22:47 < jsaw> I'm home from 5-6pm to about 10pm 22:47 < jsaw> so enough time for my family 22:47 < mnemoc> i envy you 22:47 < jsaw> that's why I want to stay in science 22:48 < mnemoc> go to the lab then :) 22:48 < jsaw> nobody cares when you're in the lab 22:48 < jsaw> just, the work has to be done... 22:48 * jsaw is in the lab 22:48 < mnemoc> :p 22:48 < jsaw> (it's just 5min from home, so you never notice unless I explicitly state it) 22:49 < mnemoc> ack 22:50 < mnemoc> i see my daughters about 70m per day :\ 22:50 < jsaw> :/ 22:50 < mnemoc> awake i mean 22:50 < jsaw> :( 22:51 < mnemoc> you can't imagine how much that hurts 22:51 < jsaw> honestly, I can't 22:54 < mnemoc> well... soon it will hurt more 22:56 < jsaw> O.O 22:56 < jsaw> how many month? 22:57 < mnemoc> minimal 5, if i'm lucky 10, if not... i don't know 22:58 < jsaw> have to change work place? 22:58 < mnemoc> yep 22:59 < mnemoc> but it's something i must do 23:11 < CIA-2> aldas * r15024 /trunk/package/python/mod_python/ (bash-31.patch mod_python.desc): * added mod_python/bash-31.patch 23:12 < Baldzius> that's sad :( 23:13 < mnemoc> doh, i got distracted... i should have parted to home 15 minutes ago.... bbl 23:13 < mnemoc> cu :) 23:14 < Baldzius> drive safe :) 23:14 < mnemoc> ride :) 23:14 < mnemoc> bye ,-) 23:14 < Baldzius> heh, whatever :) 23:44 < jsaw> hmm, I think, I'm tired 23:50 < jsaw> cu later 23:50 < Baldzius> cu 23:54 < CIA-2> aldas * r15025 /trunk/package/filesystem/xfsprogs/ (autoconf.patch buildmacros.patch xfsprogs.conf xfsprogs.desc): * updated xfsprogs (2.7.3 -> 2.7.11) --- Log closed Wed Jan 25 00:00:20 2006