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00:21 < CIA-2> aldas * r14925 /trunk/package/textproc/iso-codes/iso-codes.desc: * updated iso-codes (0.48-1 -> 0.49)
00:43 < karasz> i cannot sleep
00:43 < karasz> i have to make my cdrw functional....
00:43 < karasz> in fact my dvd+rw
00:44 < karasz> any of you cares to help?
00:44 < karasz> k3b say it cannot find a writing device despite the fact it shows the device in the devices section...
00:45 < karasz> i gues it recognizes it as a cdrom, not a dvd+rw or cdrw
00:47 < karasz> disregard me
00:47 < karasz> i should have gone to sleep
00:49 < demian> karasz
00:50 < demian> still here ?
00:50 < Baldzius> check permissions
01:02 < sparc-kly> mnemoc: http://xlinux.ath.cx/~mubex/t2-sparc.JPG <-- lol
01:03 < mnemoc> :)
01:05  * morfoh is trying to eject mnemoc out of the sparc
01:06 < demian>  /dcc list 
01:10 < demian> is there something to support wml in apache ?
01:18 < sparc-kly> http://xlinux.ath.cx/~mubex/DSC00041.JPG <-- my cellphone :)
01:18 < mnemoc> wml?
01:19 < mnemoc> sparc-kly: you are sick
01:19 < demian> sparc-kly: nice cell!
01:20 < demian> what model is it ?
01:20 < sparc-kly> ngage
01:20 < sparc-kly> ngage QD 
01:21 < sparc-kly> mp3,bluethoo,video player, games, MMC card reader , 
01:21 < sparc-kly> symbian OS :)
01:21 < sparc-kly> mnemoc sick=bored
01:22 < demian> c:)
01:29 < demian> c:)is it a cell 
01:29 < demian> is it a cell ?
01:36 < sparc-kly> yep
01:37 < demian> umm..
01:38 < demian> can't find it in nokia latin america
01:38 < sparc-kly> Im in USA territory 
01:38 < sparc-kly> Puerto Rico island
01:38 < demian> umm.
01:39 < demian> u live there ?
01:39 < sparc-kly> yes
01:39 < demian> reggaeton and beautiful girls land.
01:40 < sparc-kly> yeahhh :) 
01:40 < sparc-kly> you are from?
01:40 < demian> umm..
01:40 < demian> costa rica
01:41 < sparc-kly> mnemoc love reggaeton and beautiful boys . LOL 
01:41 < mnemoc> the other american colony :)
01:41 < mnemoc> o_O
01:41 < demian> what da u do apart of developing for t2 sparc-kly ?
01:42 < mnemoc> sparc-kly developing for t2?
01:42 < sparc-kly> LOL
01:42 < sparc-kly> LOL
01:42 < demian> using t2 or whatever..
01:42 < sparc-kly> im netadmin not programmer
01:43 < demian> woring for a specific company, or a particular netadmin ?
01:43 < sparc-kly> university 
01:43 < demian> which faculty ?
01:44 < demian> da u speak spanish ?
01:44 < demian> spanglish
01:44 < sparc-kly> espa*ol :) 
01:45 < sparc-kly> a esta hr no quedan residuos alemanes so puedo hablar espa*ol 
01:45 < demian> es cool ver a alguien mas que parle espaniol por aca.
01:45 < mnemoc> sparc-kly: nope, there are a few which go to sleep with the moon
01:45 < demian> vale chico, wei que onda.
01:46 < sparc-kly> mnemoc shut up please :)
01:46  * demian talking like a mexican..
01:46 < sparc-kly> heheh
01:46 < mnemoc> mexican people say 'vale chico'?
01:46 < mnemoc> since when?
01:46 < demian> i hate mexicans language btw.
01:46 < demian> mnemoc: colombianos.
01:47 < mnemoc> ack
01:47 < demian> venezolanos tambien.
01:47 < mnemoc> mexicans say 'orale vato' :)
01:47 < demian> tranquilo hombre mery, que la cosa no es pa tanto hermano.
01:47 < mnemoc> 'orale carnal', and stuff like that
01:47 < demian> lol
01:47 < sparc-kly> orale carnal hahahaha 
01:47 < sparc-kly> thats funny 
01:48 < demian> esta chido wei.
01:48 < mnemoc> :D
01:48 < sparc-kly> in Pr is hay bendito 
01:48 < mnemoc> hay bendito?
01:49 < demian> in CR we call bendito this way: "bendito muchacho.. que torta te has jalado!"
01:49 < demian> in exclamative expressions
01:50 < demian> or when something is really "bendito"
01:50 < mnemoc> blessed :)
01:51 < morfoh> god bless our stable tree maintainer
01:52 < demian> :)
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01:52 < mnemoc> o.o
01:53 < mnemoc> sparc-kly: i told you some german freaks are awake at this hour
01:53 < morfoh> mnemoc: pfff ...
01:55 < demian> a good movie to download ?
01:55 < sparc-kly> demian go to #geekpreview 
01:56 < morfoh> mnemoc: who is the one, who was hacking assembler alone in the darkness of a chilean village ?
02:04 < mnemoc> morfoh: no idea,.... but i'm coding clipper and sql 
02:05 < demian> sequel
02:05 < jsaw> mnemoc: mnemosyne: linux26 needs cpio
02:06 < morfoh> jsaw: trunk ?
02:06 < jsaw> yep
02:06 < mnemoc> jsaw: since when??
02:06 < jsaw> mkinitrd i think...?
02:06 < mnemoc> jsaw: oh
02:07 < mnemoc> jsaw: minute
02:07 < morfoh> mnemoc: and it needs a lot more
02:08 < mnemoc> yuck
02:09 < demian> http://xlinux.ath.cx/~mubex/DSC00040.JPG? are there visual frontends to irssi ?
02:10 < sparc-kly> :) yes
02:10 < mnemoc> yes?
02:11 < demian> tell me names.
02:15 < demian> bye and hf.
02:15 < mnemoc> jsaw: cpio added to KERNEL_LINUX module for 2.2 tree
02:19 < mnemoc> bye demian 
02:21 < demian> '/set beep_msg_level hilight' is ur friend.
02:22 < mnemoc> /beep doesn't beep for me :(
02:26 < morfoh> cp: cannot stat `/usr/embutils/sed': No such file or directory :(
02:29 < mnemoc> /usr/embutils/ only exist if embutils and coreutils at the same time
02:31 < morfoh> mnemoc: ack ... but sed was missing
02:31 < mnemoc> jsaw: would you commit to mnemosyne if i ask for write access to you?
02:31 < mnemoc> morfoh: no sed at embutils
02:32 < morfoh> mnemoc: I had to minised
02:32 < morfoh> add
02:32 < mnemoc> and install it to /sur
02:32 < mnemoc> /usr
02:34 < morfoh> minised: usr/embutils/sed
02:35 < mnemoc> cp: cannot stat `/usr/embutils/sed',...... does /usr/embutils exist ?
02:35 < mnemoc> i guess it doesn't
02:35 < morfoh> it does
02:35 < mnemoc> :)
02:36 < morfoh> mnemoc: just the kernel is missing for a mnemosyne desktop on 2.2
02:37 < mnemoc> morfoh: i just commmited some kernel stuff for 2.2
02:37 < jsaw> re
02:37 < morfoh> mnemoc: ok 
02:38 < jsaw> mnemoc: a typical german answer: "Why not?"
02:38 < mnemoc> jsaw: :)
03:06 < mnemoc> stone runit would become highly complex :(
03:07 < mnemoc> oops, wrong channel
03:17 < morfoh> == 01/20/06 04:14:03 =[5]=> Finished building package linux26.
03:17 < morfoh> finally :)
03:19 < jsaw> GAH
03:20 < jsaw> rm -rf aclocal.tmp
03:20 < jsaw> for f in `"$ACLOCAL" --print-ac-dir`/*.m4; do
03:20 < jsaw>   cp $f aclocal.tmp
03:20 < jsaw> done
03:20 < jsaw> `-- now, how do you copy files into aclocal.tmp?
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03:21 < jsaw> once in a while I wonder if ppl ever test what they write
03:22 < demian> question that to xUnit developers
03:22 < demian> bye
03:22 < jsaw> hehe
03:23 < jsaw> cu demian 
03:24 < mnemoc> jsaw: where is mkdir there?
03:24 < madtux> mnemoc.
03:24 < mnemoc> wb madtux 
03:24 < jsaw> mnemoc: it is before rm -rf
03:25 < jsaw> hi madtux 
03:25 < mnemoc> jsaw: very useful _before_ removing it
03:25 < jsaw> yep!
03:25 < madtux> hello jsaw 
03:25 < mnemoc> aclocal.tmp will be a file containing the last f from `"$ACLOCAL" --print-ac-dir`/*.m4
03:30 < jsaw> I was wrong here, I didn't read it carefully.
03:30 < jsaw> The rm -rf is inside a trap
03:30 < jsaw> BUT
03:30 < jsaw> The file is still wrong...
03:31 < mnemoc> mkdir is missing
03:31 < jsaw> (this is from recode-3.6/aclocal.sh)
03:31 < jsaw> at the end of the file:
03:31 < jsaw> # Now call `aclocal' for real.
03:31 < jsaw> "$ACLOCAL" --acdir=aclocal.tmp $options
03:31 < jsaw> # Clean up temporary directory.
03:31 < jsaw> rm -rf aclocal.tmp
03:32 < jsaw> now, if you run make, make calls "aclocal -I aclocal.tmp
03:32 < jsaw> and voila, aclocal.tmp does not exist anymore...
03:32 < jsaw> !> automake: version `' doesn't follow Gnits standards
03:32 < jsaw> gah
03:33 < mnemoc> uh
03:38 < jsaw> I'm tired
03:38 < jsaw> return ESEEKSLEEP;
03:39 < mnemoc> :)
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06:51 < owl> moin
06:52 < rxr_> moin
06:52 -!- You're now known as rxr
06:54 < owl> hi rxr 
06:54 < rxr> moin owl 
06:56 < owl> how are you?
07:06 < CIA-2> rene * r14926 /trunk/package/x11/rxvt-unicode/rxvt-unicode.desc: * updated rxvt-unicode (6.1 -> 7.1)
07:06 < rxr> owl: overworked
07:07 < rxr> and loaded with annoying uni stuff :-(
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07:07 < owl> does not sound that good :/
07:12 < rxr> it is not tooo bad ...
07:27 < CIA-2> rene * r14927 /trunk/package/emulators/wine/wine.desc: * updated wine (0.9.5 -> 0.9.6)
07:40 < LMJ> good morning the chan
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08:14 < owl> hi LMJ 
08:14 < rxr> moin LMJ 
08:14 < LMJ> hello owl, rxr ;)
08:14  * owl ripping a programmer's head off
08:20 < rxr> owl: ouhm - whose ?
08:24 < CIA-2> rene * r14928 /trunk/package/ (mail/thunderbird/thunderbird.conf www/firefox/firefox.conf): 
08:24 < CIA-2> * fixed firefox and thunderbird gcc bug workaround for 64bit
08:24 < CIA-2>  non-multilib systems
08:25 < owl> rxr: those *** who coded the contrib "attribute sets" for oscommerce
08:25 < rxr> i feel with you ...
08:30 < rxr> cu
08:35 < mipe> damm... kde taskbar and menu is all screwed up
08:35 < mipe> panel that is
08:36 < owl> rxr: thx... :(
08:36 < CIA-2> mtr * r14929 /trunk/package/security/ciphers/: * remove obsolete ciphers pkg, it is part of loop-aes
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08:40 < CIA-2> mtr * r14930 /trunk/package/filesystem/mtd-tools/ (. mtd-tools.cache mtd-tools.conf mtd-tools.desc): * added mtd-tools (20051230) - A generic Linux subsystem for memory devices, especially Flash devices
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11:29 < rxr> re
11:31 < valentin> hi rxr
11:31 < valentin> i think we'll have to stay home this weekend :(
11:38 < rxr> due illness?
11:38 < rxr> I have too much to do anyway
11:38 < rxr> btw. the ip30 ober guru did some moew work
11:38 < rxr> and his bootloader can now read filesystems ,-)
11:38 < rxr> guess after my exam I'll rehack the Octane ...
11:39 < rxr> and the gp2x and the access pointer
11:39 < rxr> so /me off - cu later
11:49 < valentin> rxr: yep, illnes
11:49 < valentin> greetings and a happy birthday to susanne
11:50 < valentin> fmz21`<a<Z,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,E CC<D  V                                                                   ''''XC'W11q
11:54 < CIA-2> mtr * r14931 /trunk/package/security/loop-aes/postlinux.conf: * fixed loop-aes kernel modules for cross-build stage1
12:12 < CIA-2> mtr * r14932 /trunk/package/multimedia/lirc/ (lirc.conf lirc.desc postlinux.conf): 
12:12 < CIA-2> * updated lirc (0.7.2 -> 0.8.0pre4)
12:12 < CIA-2> * fixed linux kernel modules (any -> all!)
12:32 < karasz> moin all
12:34 < mnemoc> moin
12:35 < karasz> buenos dias senor mnemoc 
12:35 < mnemoc> buenos días señor Nagy
12:36 < karasz> i think you can use my first name ;)
12:37 < mnemoc> señor is only used with family names ,-)
12:37 < mnemoc> Don Karoly :)
12:37 < karasz> thanks
12:37 < karasz> but Don??
12:38 < karasz> i am small and humble
12:38 < mnemoc> :)
12:38 < karasz> at least today...
12:38 < mnemoc> :)
12:39 < karasz> hmm no reply from the pgadmin team
12:39 < karasz> i wonder if they will ignore me....oO
12:39 < mnemoc> as expected
12:39 < karasz> at least they could do a 'you are stupid' kinda reply....
12:39 < mnemoc> make a LIB var, and set it using sed, ... i guess that's the easier hack
12:40 < karasz> yeah but how would i know what lib to use if i do not use uname?
12:40 < karasz> i thought it can be fixed to work with T2 build and also without T2 build
12:41 < karasz> i could use some variable from the build system  like archname, but that would be usles outside T2
12:43 < mnemoc> karasz: ${libdir##/*}
12:43 < mnemoc> patch a LIB=lib
12:43 < mnemoc> and use that ${LIB} inside the script
12:44 < mnemoc> then, in preconf you hack it using sed, to lib64 if needed
12:47 < karasz> that means that on other systems will fail if they are 64 bits and not T2 powerewd...
12:47 < karasz> right?
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12:48 < mnemoc> karasz: no, that means you will only remove hardcoded usages of 'lib/' to a central variable
12:49 < karasz> but the .conf patch only aplies to T2
12:50 < mnemoc> yes
12:50 < karasz> if say someone is on a FC4 64 bit the .conf patch does not exist...
12:50 < mnemoc> the proper fix it to make configure.ac honor libdir
12:50 < karasz> that is why i said that my hacks only applies ti T2 and other users won't benefit from it...
12:50 < karasz> that is why i wrote to pgAdmin team...
12:52 < mnemoc> ack
12:52 < mnemoc> <mnemoc> make a LIB var, and set it using sed, ... i guess that's the easier hack <---- read the last work :)
12:53 < mnemoc> word
12:56 < karasz> mnemoc: i have a litle prob here
12:56 < mnemoc> viagra?
12:56 < karasz> sometimes in the past i tried to unify /lib and /lib64
12:57 < mnemoc> uh
12:57 < karasz> i knmow that was stupid
12:57 < karasz> but i was lucky
12:57 < karasz> i didn't move the files but i made a backup
12:57 < karasz> now i have 3 dirs /lib /lio and /lib64
12:58 < karasz> i am tryin to move files back
12:58 < karasz> but i am not sure from which dir i moved to /lio
12:58 < karasz> ??
12:58 < karasz> i vote with /lib but i am not sure....
12:59 < mnemoc> use file
12:59 < karasz> strangly enough system works
12:59 < karasz> but i didn't rebooted since o_O
13:01 < karasz> ??? now i cannot find /lio
13:01 < karasz> i didn't made anything just exuted and re-entered mc
13:02 < karasz> ok, i found it
13:02 < karasz> so we are talkin abt /usr/lib /usr/lio and /usr/lib64
13:04 < mnemoc> $ file /lib/libc-2.3.5.so
13:04 < mnemoc> /lib/libc-2.3.5.so: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), stripped
13:08 < karasz> ???
13:08 < karasz> file /usr/lib/libc.so
13:08 < karasz> /usr/lib/libc.so: ASCII C program text
13:08 < mnemoc> file /usr/lio/*.so
13:09 < mnemoc> cat /usr/lib/libc.so :)
13:09 < karasz> http://karasz.pastebin.ca/37537
13:10 < karasz> root@karasz:/usr/lib# cat /usr/lib/libc.so
13:10 < karasz>    Use the shared library, but some functions are only in
13:10 < karasz>    the static library, so try that secondarily.  */
13:10 < karasz> OUTPUT_FORMAT(elf32-i386)
13:10 < karasz> GROUP ( /lib/libc.so.6 /usr/lib/libc_nonshared.a )
13:10 < karasz> i guess i should move /usr/lio to /usr/lib
13:11 < karasz> on pastebin did you noticed the 2 broken symlinks?
13:12 < mnemoc> hunt them
13:12 < karasz> first, should i make the move?
13:12 < karasz> /usr/lio -> /usr/lib?
13:13  * karasz has all /usr/lio selected waitin' to hit F6
13:14  * karasz lookin' at mnemoc waitin' for the sign....
13:14 < mnemoc> sounds razonable
13:14  * karasz hitted F6
13:15 < mnemoc> reasonable*
13:19 < karasz> done
13:19 < karasz> broken symlinks resolved too
13:19 < karasz> they were 64 issues
13:23 < mnemoc> :)
13:24 < karasz> hmm found something interesting in perl.conf
13:24 < karasz> [[ $libdir = *lib64 ]] && var_append patchfiles ' ' "$confdir/lib64.diff"
13:24 < karasz> libpth="/usr/local/${libdir##*/} /${libdir##*/} /usr/${libdir##*/}"
13:25 < karasz> i guess i can use that to make my patch...
13:25 < karasz> for pgAdmin
13:25 < mnemoc> the first line only
13:26 < karasz> yup
13:26 < karasz> i was thinkin adt that line
13:26 < karasz> i am thinkin about it this way....
13:27 < karasz> make a diff wich replaces those explicit libs with a variable say $my_lib
13:28 < karasz> and then  [[ $libdir = *lib64 ]] && sed 's/$my_lib/lib64/g' configure
13:29 < karasz> followed by sed 's/$my_lib/lib/g' configure
13:29 < karasz> hm?
13:29 < karasz> how does it sound?
13:33 < karasz> or it is better to make something like this:
13:33 < karasz>  [[ $libdir = *lib64 ]] && sed 's/$my_lib/lib64/g' configure
13:33 < karasz> followed by
13:33 < karasz>  [[ $libdir = *lib ]] && sed 's/$my_lib/lib/g' configure
13:33 < mnemoc> ehm
13:34 < karasz> i can even make 2 diffs one for lib64 and one for lib and not use sed at all
13:34 < karasz> [[ $libdir = *lib64 ]] && var_append patchfiles ' ' "$confdir/lib64.diff"
13:34 < mnemoc> you are making it over-complex
13:34 < karasz> [[ $libdir = *lib ]] && var_append patchfiles ' ' "$confdir/lib.diff"
13:34 < karasz> lack of experience is the culprit ;)
13:35 < mnemoc> focus, currently it works fine for [[ $libdir = *lib ]], so no need to mess on that case
13:35 < karasz> right 
13:35 < karasz> i only need [[ $libdir = *lib64 ]] && var_append patchfiles ' ' "$confdir/lib64.diff"
13:35 < mnemoc> so it is $libdir = *lib, or patch for lib64
13:36 < karasz> yup
13:36 < mnemoc> almost, that line is evil 
13:36 < karasz> why?
13:36 < mnemoc> because if libdir doesn't match lib64 will fail
13:36 < karasz> so what to use?
13:36 < mnemoc> [[ $libdir = *lib ]] || var_append patchfiles ' ' "$confdir/lib64.diff"    is safer
13:36 < karasz> arch_name +sed?
13:36 < karasz> even archname
13:37 < mnemoc> if libdir match *lib, happy
13:37 < mnemoc> else, patch and be happy
13:37 < karasz> you said i shouldn't use $libdir
13:37 < karasz> mnemoc almost, that line is evil 
13:37 < karasz> mnemoc because if libdir doesn't match lib64 will fail
13:38 < mnemoc> i don't find libdir evil in your case
13:38 < mnemoc> that's why you use an or
13:38 < mnemoc> A && B
13:38 < mnemoc> if A is false, will inmediatly return false
13:38 < mnemoc> A || B
13:38 < mnemoc> if A is false, it will try B
13:39 < mnemoc> if A is true, will inmediatly return true
13:39 < karasz> ohum
13:39 < mnemoc> logic my friend :)
13:40 < karasz> i hated that allways even in 9th grade ;)
13:40 < mnemoc> :)
13:41 < mnemoc> A && B    means both, A and B must be true
13:41 < mnemoc> A || B    means, at least one must be true
13:41 < mnemoc> in the first case, having a false at the first expressions there is no need to evaluate the second
13:42 < mnemoc> it's will be false anyway
13:42 < mnemoc> so it's ignored
13:42 < mnemoc> in the second case, having a true at the first expression, there is no need to evalutate the second
13:42 < mnemoc> it will be true anyway
13:42 < mnemoc> so it's ignored
13:52 < karasz> started test build
13:54 < mtr_> moin
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13:57 < karasz> moin mtr
14:06 < mtr> jsaw: there is at least another bug report: http://bugs.uclibc.org/view.php?id=202 ... :(
14:06 < mtr> moin karasz 
14:09 < karasz> good
14:09 < karasz> test finished
14:09 < karasz> mnemoc: it looks ready
14:09 < karasz> sending ML
14:13 < karasz> nice
14:14 < karasz> mailserver does not work.....
14:14 < mnemoc> uh
14:27 < jsaw> mtr: I can't find where "root_dev" comes from...???
14:32 < mtr> jsaw: getcwd.c:140 calls stat('/', ...), this info is passed down to recurser
14:32 < karasz> `lost connection after CONNECT from unknown[192.168.1.4]`
14:32 < jsaw> mtr: no, where is root_dev defined???
14:32 < karasz> wth???
14:33 < jsaw> mtr: for now, you can do this: in function __syscall_getcwd, after if (stat("/", &st) < 0) {...}, insert:
14:33 < mtr> jsaw: ehem, what root_dev are we talking about?
14:33 < jsaw> root_dev =st.st_dev ; root_ino = st.st_ino;
14:34 < jsaw> that should work.
14:35 < mtr> jsaw: OK, i will give it a try.
14:36 < jsaw> mtr: but !
14:37 < jsaw> mtr: as I do not know where the root_{dev,ino} comes from, a correct solution would be to add "static dev_t uc_root_dev; static ino_t uc_root_ino; " at the beginning of the file...
14:37 < jsaw> and use these variables (including the line above)
14:39 < rxr> re
14:40 < rxr> so - with a hair cut I look a bit more serious again ...
14:40 < rxr> 4 month or so without look a bit chaotic with short hair .. ,-)
14:40 < mtr> jsaw: i added a line with #error "syscall getcwd not available" in getcwd to check if this code path is used, but gcc did not complain about, so - i believe the getcwd system call is clean
14:41 < mtr> mostly  ;-)
14:41 < mtr> gdb /bin/bash, disass getcwd   <-- looking into this now
14:42 < rxr> what are you tracking ?
14:44 < mtr> Build-Pkg fails on uclibc after stage 1, when chrooted into the cross-compiled root
14:45 < karasz> hmmm it seems that my kmail is busted....
14:45 < karasz> but how?
14:45 < karasz> i didn't changed anything
14:46 < mtr> uhh, this bash getcwd implementation is _way_ more ugly than uClibc's
14:51 < rxr> heh
14:52 < jsaw> mtr: now look at dietblic's getcwd
14:52 < jsaw> :)
14:52 < jsaw> #include "syscalls.h"
14:52 < jsaw> syscall(getcwd,__syscall_getcwd)
14:52 < jsaw> that's it
14:56 < mnemoc> loop the loop
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14:59 < mtr> so, summary: bash cross compiling, configure wants to check if getcwd allocates memory
14:59 < mtr> cannot check whether getcwd allocates memory when cross-compiling -- defaulting to no
15:00 < mtr> and then: config-bot.h:#  undef HAVE_GETCWD
15:01 < mtr> bash thinks getcwd is not usable and includes its own implementation which uses opendir, readdir, etal.
15:02 < jsaw> o.O 
15:02 < mtr> didn't sound reasonable?
15:03 < mtr> hmm, but price question: why does this only happen with uClibc ... ?
15:03 < jsaw> that it can't figure out if getcwd allocates does not sound reasonable, no
15:03 < jsaw> which getcwd fails, bash's or uClibc's ?
15:04 < mtr> i've grep'ped it from 1-bash.log
15:04 < jsaw> AAHHH
15:04 < jsaw> I see...
15:05 < jsaw> checking if getcwd() will dynamically allocate memory... configure: WARNING: cannot check whether getcwd allocates memory when cross
15:05 < jsaw> -compiling -- defaulting to no
15:05 < demian> hi
15:06 < rxr> autoconf* harmful as usual
15:12 < mtr> bash configure:21498:
15:12 < mtr> if test $bash_cv_getcwd_malloc = no; then
15:12 < mtr> cat >>confdefs.h <<\_ACEOF
15:12 < mtr> #define GETCWD_BROKEN 1
15:12 < mtr> _ACEOF
15:13 < owl> GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!! why can't customers do what programmers tell them?!? is it that hard to understand "don't use dumb p2p-sw like kazaa"?!
15:14  * demian notes how owl goes against the general rule: "programmers do what user say"
15:16 < owl> demian: sigh. i am not customers slave. so he/she/it has to accept my reactions - and is forced to listen to my explanations
15:16 < mnemoc> programmers do what customers say, and customes have no idea what users need
15:16 < karasz> i am emerging kdepim from trunk
15:16 < karasz> i keep my fingers crossed
15:17 < owl> mnemoc: the last part is correct. but the first isn't :)
15:17 < karasz> mnemoc: will it work?
15:17 < karasz> i am on 2.1 stable
15:17 < karasz> or it needs a full kde 3.5?
15:17 < mnemoc> owl: :)
15:18 < demian> users can't know at all the requirements for their products.
15:18 < mnemoc> karasz: i dount you can mix kde 3.4 and 3.5
15:18 < karasz> i thought so
15:18 < owl> demian: they could know what things they want - at least if they once thought about it
15:18 < karasz> so what the hell can i do?
15:19 < mnemoc> karasz: use kdepim from 2.1?
15:19 < demian> it's part of developers to give ideas and use creativity, but everything should always satisfy user needs
15:19 < karasz> kmail from 2.1 failed on me just now
15:19 < karasz> i cannot send mails
15:19 < karasz> from today...
15:19 < mnemoc> developers should shut up and never give ideas
15:20 < mnemoc> the software always get's more complex^Wcomplete for the same price and timeframe
15:20 < owl> demian: nah. developers are just there to make software fit customers needs. 
15:20 < demian> most of users dunno about what informatic can do for them, so it's part of ppl developing its project to support in this.
15:20 < demian> well, no developers or programmers.. i mean, product managers.
15:20 < owl> but customers have to say "i want this part of software black" and not "i dislike it"
15:20 < owl> yeah. and i am not a pr9oduct manager ;)
15:21 < demian> :)
15:21 < rxr> mnemoc: have you read that I ordered this gpx2 as cheap PDA and other embedded development platform ?
15:21 < owl> (even if i feel sometimes like the customer's babysitter...)
15:21 < demian> what are u complaining about owl?
15:21 < owl> demian: customer who wrote sms... "my internet is defect"
15:22 < owl> "what exactly is defect. what happens?"
15:22 < owl> "it doesn't work anymore"
15:22 < owl> and so on
15:22 < owl> and then, i asked for "what is the exact error message"
15:22 < owl> "blah. blah". "you restarted your rooter?" "my what?" "the red device near your computer"
15:23 < owl> "ah. no. " - "do it. "
15:23  * demian remembers those words..: i am the customer, u are the developer, i pay u to do what i want.. i put the money and words.. and u put ur hands on keyboard like a monkey.."
15:23 < owl> "not working". ok. "call the hjotline if there are defects in your line"
15:23 < owl> "done. i wasnt able to talk to someone"
15:23 < owl> "try again"
15:23 < owl> "i am not able to talk to someone". 
15:23 < owl> "ok, stop annoying me, i will drive to you"
15:23 < demian> lol
15:24 < owl> -> driving... thunderbird receives mails. https works. kazaa works. 
15:24 < rxr> mnemoc: http://www.gpx2.com/product/product_main.asp
15:24 < owl> firefox -> http (80) not working
15:24 < owl> -> windows reboot
15:24 < rxr> mnemoc: I hope to have t2 running on it for cebit demoing ..
15:25 < owl> -> kazaa-message "bullguard firewall protection now. click on me and you will be safe"-displayed. 
15:25 < owl> not clicked. user happy. inet works
15:25 < mnemoc> waiting for www.gpx2.com.....
15:25 < demian> customer support is crap.
15:26 < owl> demian: i am not a customer support or something. i even don't get money for the work i am doing... 
15:26 < mnemoc> rxr: woh, nice piece of hardware :)
15:26 < demian> i always hate to play with the customer.. owl, yes, but one should sometimes :)
15:26 < owl> i amk just the person who will becalled at 0730 in the morning if the user is too dumb to click a button
15:26 < rxr> mnemoc: below 200EUR ...
15:26 < owl> demian: not me! :)
15:26 < rxr> mnemoc: really nice T2 embeded and general PDA GUI development thing ...
15:26 < karasz> brb
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15:27 < owl> at least the dsl-line ist faster than mine :)
15:27 < mnemoc> rxr: yeah
15:27 < owl> so. will drive home. bye
15:27 < demian> owl: u should approach ur dumb users..
15:28 < demian> owl: they usually gimme money for things i already know that will happen, and already have the solution.
15:32 < demian> solute it is something like: ssh customer-router ; /etc/init.d/apache start ; crontab "0 0 1 * * /etc/init.d/apache stop" ; logout
15:32 < demian> :p
15:32 < demian> thimgs like that.
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15:39 < rxr> http://wiki.gp2x.org/
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15:39 < sepp> moin
15:40 < rxr> moin sepp
15:40 < sepp> hi rxr 
15:41 < jsaw> cu later
15:41 < sepp> hi jsaw and cu :)
15:44 < karasz> hi again, even re
15:45 < demian> karasz: could u with the burner ?
15:46 < karasz> yep
15:46 < karasz> that was all ok
15:46 < karasz> i just needeed to tell k3b that it is a writer device
15:47 < demian> ok
15:47 < karasz> i will need thou to set entries in fstab for it as dvd...
15:47 < rxr> crazzy, this gp2x earlly has a dual core chip
15:47 < owl> re
15:47 < rxr> I thought they only write this on the webpage for marketing
15:47 < karasz> because now it is /dev/cdroms/cdrom0
15:47 < owl> demian: she has a not-very-good-roouter
15:48 < rxr> I thought they use two distinct chips
15:48 < owl> puh. i ate customer
15:48 < rxr> but it is really just one silicon
15:48 < rxr> http://www.mesdigital.com/support/downfile/mp2520f%20data%20sheet.pdf
15:48 < demian> owl: ate it ??
15:48 < owl> demian: ate it. 
15:48 < demian> damn owl.. u now scares me..
15:48 < rxr> @200MHz ...
15:48 < rxr> nice thing
15:48 < owl> *har* that is what i was born for
15:48 < mnemoc> eating people can be fun :)
15:49 < owl> at least the person was not fat
15:49 < demian> german ppl are well knows for that
15:49 < demian> eating ppl.
15:49 < owl> :D
15:49 < mnemoc> romanian are even more famous for that
15:50 < owl> so.now let's continueing debugging the scripts of sexually transmitted disease
15:50 < owl> aeh - php i mean
15:52 < mnemoc> uh
15:52 < owl> hmn?
15:52 < mnemoc> php stinks :)
15:52  * demian notes owl's violence after her customer's encounter..
15:53 < mnemoc> owl is wild
15:53 < morfoh> re :)
15:53  * mnemoc fear to meet her
15:53 < mnemoc> wb morfoh 
15:53  * demian fears to be ate
15:53 < morfoh> mnemoc: thanks :)
15:54 < owl> mnemoc: full fscking ack :)
15:54 < owl> demian: yep. 
15:54 < mnemoc> owl: :)
15:54 < owl> mnemoc: np. i won't eat you. guess you're too old for that :p
15:54 < mnemoc> :'(
15:55 < owl> (same answer to demian )
15:55 < owl> pardon, i am in cynical mode
15:55 < mnemoc> demian is around 15 :)
15:55 < owl> as said. too old
15:55 < owl> customer must be 3 or so
15:55 < mnemoc> o.o
15:55 < morfoh> owl: yes ... mnemoc is too old ... his flesh isn't that fresh anymore
15:55 < mnemoc> morfoh: and yours?
15:55  * owl doesn't trust the passport which said something over 20 years
15:56 < demian> u cant eat me.. several girls have tried.. i am still whole.
15:56 < owl> morfoh: ack :)
15:56 < morfoh> mnemoc: me ? I'm fresh :p
15:56 < owl> demian: ah. immortal :)
15:56 < mnemoc> demian: there is a part you can loose easily
15:56 < morfoh> mnemoc: ouch
15:56 < owl> *lol*
15:56 < demian> neurons... yes. i know :(
15:57  * owl thought about "nose"
15:57 < mnemoc> :)
15:57 < mnemoc> ears too
15:57 < mnemoc> you can loose an 'ear' with a bite
15:57 < morfoh> but perhaps in CR the nose is called "neuron" 
15:57 < demian> mnemoc: dunt give ideas to owl please/
15:57 < mnemoc> ok ok
15:58 < owl> no problem. i've too biting birds and one biting hamster, too... ;)
15:58 < mnemoc> uh
15:58 < mnemoc> morfoh has a biting rat too
15:59 < owl> yeah :)
15:59 < morfoh> mnemoc: indeed ... he is very dangeous :p
15:59 < mnemoc> have to loose something with a bite?
16:00 < morfoh> mnemoc: it's not fun, as you might know, to become the "target" of a biting "rat" 
16:01 < rxr> http://www.mesdigital.com/english/Products/product_producttable.asp
16:01 < mnemoc> the nails of the dogs aren't funny neither
16:01 < rxr> MMSP2 is in this gp2x ...
16:01 < rxr> http://www.mesdigital.com/english/Products/product_mmsp2.asp
16:01 < karasz> `The process for the smtp://...IP.... protocol died unexpectedly`
16:01 < morfoh> rxr: btw, nice toy :)
16:02 < karasz> hello rxr
16:02 < karasz> kommrad morfoh ;)
16:02 < rxr> my plan is to have a T2 access point and a T2 PDA / portable game console for cebit demo ...
16:02 < rxr> morfoh: btw. do you plan to attend cebit (if you get a open booth place - what I hope) or are you off to africa by that time ?
16:02 < karasz> is there some way to test if kio-smtp works?
16:03 < mnemoc> nice soc
16:03 < morfoh> rxr: hmmm ... dunno exactly if I'll be in africa, because I have the oportunity for a job at the TU 
16:03 < karasz> my head is bangin from the sound of broken glass
16:03 < morfoh> rxr: already came home from a meeting
16:03  * karasz has a sower head
16:04 < rxr> morfoh: ic
16:05 < morfoh> rxr: guess I've to do the planned work for africa remotely first, and going there during summer
16:05 < mnemoc> nice summer at africa :p
16:05 < rxr> too hot for me
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16:05 < mnemoc> you wont return fresh, as you claim to be now :)
16:06 < morfoh> rxr: it depends on the region
16:06 < misl> hi folks :)
16:06 < morfoh> hi warhead :)
16:06 < mnemoc> hi freudian
16:07 -!- misl is now known as warhead_
16:07 < warhead_> the button , where is the button
16:07 < warhead_> I want the button... who know where the button is
16:07 < morfoh> rxr: the mountain regions of .cm has a nice climate
16:07 -!- warhead_ is now known as misl
16:07 < rxr> those chips have a lot i/o ...
16:08 < misl> .cm? where is that
16:08 < rxr> including ide and some hardware decss ...
16:08 < rxr> but own boards are no fun: 400pin FBGA
16:08 < mnemoc> misl: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameroon
16:08 < misl> ah! when  is morfoh going?
16:09 < mnemoc> misl: morfoh is living there
16:09 < misl> Uhh? since when?
16:09 < morfoh> mnemoc: uhm ? since do I live there ?
16:09 < mnemoc> :)
16:09 < mnemoc> j/k
16:09 < rxr> hehe
16:09 < misl> morfoh: How is work going? Have you already found something?
16:09 < rxr> #t2 is fun as usual
16:10 < mnemoc> rxr: :)
16:10 < LMJ> hello back
16:10 < misl> hi LMJ
16:10 < LMJ> fun ? what's happening ? ;)
16:11 < morfoh> misl: I already came home from a meeting at TU Berlin, and it looks that I'll start working for them on April
16:11 < rxr> pcmcia, this chip even has pcicia. ...
16:11 < mnemoc> LMJ: nothing special, normal off-topic conversations
16:11 < rxr> pcmcia ..
16:11 < mnemoc> morfoh: :)
16:11 < misl> in april? So 2 months vacation for you :)
16:11 < LMJ> ha ok ;)
16:11 < rxr> the other even has ethernet ...
16:12 < misl> 2 month t2?
16:12 < rxr> too bad not the one in this gamepad
16:12 < mnemoc> rxr: don't you always need pcmcia support for memory cards?
16:12 < mnemoc> (on chips)
16:12 < misl> ???? rxr ... gamepad????
16:12 < morfoh> misl: vacation ? We've to prepare courses
16:12 < rxr> yeah, 2 month t2 sounds good
16:12 < rxr> morfoh: go morfoh go
16:12 < morfoh> rxr: :)
16:12 < rxr> mnemoc: hm - duno - I think pcmcia is not a requirement for mmc/sd storage interface
16:13 < morfoh> and I've to "infiltrate" the lab
16:13 < rxr> with t2
16:13 < rxr> go go
16:13 < morfoh> rxr: right ... Watson :)
16:13 < misl> morfoh: prepare course on t2 :D
16:14 < rxr> this chip is proposed for smartphones ...
16:14 < morfoh> misl: yes ... I'll invite rene for a speech :p
16:14 < rxr> http://www.mesdigital.com/english/applications/applications_smartphone.asp
16:14 < mnemoc> morfoh: sponsor sponsor sponsor sponsor
16:14 < rxr> I more and more like what I quick ordered yesterday morning ,-)
16:14 < rxr> morfoh: heh
16:14  * rxr quickly showering ...
16:15 < morfoh> this f* wine drives me crazy 
16:15 < rxr> oh, and later I'll be off for a birthday dinner with susan at some restaurant ...
16:15 < rxr> morfoh: real one or windows emu ?
16:16 < morfoh> rxr: windooze emu ;)
16:16 < morfoh> rxr: oh! greet susan pls! and tell her a "happy birthday" from me :=
16:16 < morfoh> :)
16:17 < mnemoc> rxr: greeting from me too :p
16:17 < misl> morfoh: too much wine drives everyone crazy :)
16:17 < morfoh> misl: ack ... I guess you know it quite well :p
16:17 < misl> o_O yesssssss i dsssoooo
16:17 < morfoh> misl: I mean ... when you were young :p
16:18 < mnemoc> when you pass the day surrunded by wine, the smell makes you sick
16:19 < morfoh> mnemoc: you've to drink it ! ;)
16:19 < rxr> we now why the wine people named the project this way ,-)
16:19 < mnemoc> :)
16:19 < rxr> (what windows coders had too much of)
16:20 < morfoh> mnemoc: you could even try to drink wine while wearing a gas mask :)
16:20 < mnemoc> uh
16:21 < morfoh> the thing is that someone here wants to install a danish-german dictonary 
16:21 < karasz> *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid next size (normal): 0x0000000000602930 ***
16:21 < karasz> kioslave: ####### CRASH ###### protocol = smtp pid = 2984 signal = 6
16:21 < karasz> what is that ^^ ?
16:22 < morfoh> and I couldn't found any good free dictionary for danish-german-danish
16:22 < mnemoc> karasz: that kioslave sucks
16:22 < karasz> beside that?
16:22 < mnemoc> karasz: that kde sucks
16:23 < karasz> mnemoc: you are not helping...
16:23 < morfoh> karasz: that mnemoc sucks too ... so don't worry :p
16:23 < mnemoc> :)
16:23 < morfoh> but kmail is nice
16:23 < rxr> kde is nice
16:23 < karasz> based on your philosophy we can go further... T2, linux, computers, universe,god, life... and so on...
16:24 < morfoh> rxr: yes ... but too fat
16:24 < mnemoc> karasz: well, isn't it true?
16:24 < karasz> nah
16:24 < rxr> 3884 Jul 11  2005 /opt/kde3/bin/konqueror
16:24 < rxr> I call that slim
16:25 < mnemoc> cheater
16:25 < mnemoc> cheater
16:25 < mnemoc> cheater
16:25 < rxr> 3522152 Jul 10  2005 /opt/kde3/lib/libkhtml.so.4.2.0
16:25 < morfoh> rxr: yeah ... but all the mess around konqueror 
16:25 < rxr> ^- ok khtml
16:25 < rxr> but how much does Gecko weight?
16:25 < rxr> and that 3 times on the system ...
16:25 < mnemoc> Gecko is not just html
16:25 < rxr> mnemoc: what else?
16:25 < rxr> not much more
16:25 < rxr> and fat
16:25 < morfoh> :)
16:26 < morfoh> rxr: hopefully mnemoc isn't crying now :)
16:27 < mnemoc> :)
16:27 < misl> so what is the choice? fat or fat?
16:27 < rxr> misl: kde is light
16:27 < rxr> ok, this number
16:27 < mnemoc> i can't defend mozilla, as i can't defend openoffice.... they suck, but i need them
16:27 < mnemoc> rxr: run kde on a p200 to see how light it is
16:28 < rxr> not only is mozilla always laggy, on a 500MHz AMD Geode LX it is really too slow for every day use ... whereas Konqueror feels like a young tiger jumping off within ms after a click ...
16:28 < morfoh> mnemoc: do you work in a museum ? :p
16:28 < rxr> mnemoc: I run it on a 500MHz Geode LX, does that count?
16:28 < rxr> and Gecko barely moves on that one ...
16:28 < mnemoc> rxr: nope :)
16:28 < mnemoc> morfoh: yep
16:28 < rxr> mnemoc: heh - then show me Gecko on that 200MHz box !!!
16:29 < mnemoc> morfoh: but xfce runs decently on that hardware
16:29 < morfoh> mnemoc: was xfce part of the discussion ?
16:29 < karasz> the only thing i can think of is that /usr/lio  -> /usr/lib
16:29 < mnemoc> rxr: i'm not defending gecko, i'm trolling kde :)
16:29 < rxr> there is no other comparable html engine
16:30 < mnemoc> ghtml :p
16:30 < rxr> and comparing mozilla and kde, you can run a basic full kde desktop in the weight of a Mozilla
16:30 < rxr> mnemoc: which is incomplete, buggy and slow and a fork off of an early khtml ,-)
16:30 < morfoh> and compared with the gnome* hell, kde is the paradise 
16:31 < mnemoc> nah, gnome is not hell
16:31 < rxr> but near
16:31 < morfoh> mnemoc: it is ... basta
16:31 < morfoh> :)
16:31 < rxr> the pre-hall of it
16:31 < rxr> entrance of ros ...
16:31 < rxr> or so
16:31 < mnemoc> it's just a bloated implementation of xfce :)
16:32 < rxr> harhar
16:32 < rxr> gnome was first, no?
16:32 < rxr> so xfce is a fix reimplementation fo Gnome, no?
16:32  * rxr finally shower ...
16:32 < mnemoc> :)
16:33 < morfoh> .oO( how was Linus calling the gnome people ... "UI fascists" ? ... sth. like that)o
16:33 < mnemoc> who cares what linus say?
16:33 < morfoh> mnemoc: dunno ? you ?
16:34 < mnemoc> me? nah
16:34 < morfoh> me neither ... but I liked his "strong" words regardin gnome :p
16:36 < morfoh> owl: hey ... don't torture your birds please 
16:36 < owl> morfoh: i won't i am currently torureing dead tree.
16:37 < morfoh> owl: good ... but I knew that you're doing sth. nasty right now 
16:37 < morfoh> :)
16:38 < Baldzius> :)))))))))
16:38 < Baldzius> hi all :)
16:38 < morfoh> owl: who was killing the tree ? you, your birds or MC hamster ?
16:38 < morfoh> hi gun boy :)
16:38 < demian> hi Baldzius 
16:39 < owl> morfoh: yeah. exactly. called "trying to make a usable php-shit-crap-thing"
16:40 < morfoh> owl: if you have problems don't hesitate to ask mnemoc about php :)
16:40 < owl> morfoh: *ggg* 
16:40 < owl> what about very sick arrays? :)
16:41 < morfoh> owl: just ask mnemoc ... he is a PHP wizzard :)
16:41 < mnemoc> uh
16:43 < CIA-2> amery * r14933 /trunk/package/network/nss_ldap/nss_ldap.desc: * updated nss_ldap (244 -> 246)
16:43 < mnemoc> morfoh: did the hackery on KERNEL_LINUX module helped?
16:44 < morfoh> mnemoc: dunno if it helped because I added some packages manually before ... like cpio, dietlibc, hotplug++, udev, pdksh, ...
16:45 < morfoh> mnemoc: but I'll check your changes
16:47 < rxr> s
16:47 < rxr> o
16:47 < morfoh> mnemoc: I forgot embutils, minised ....
16:48 < mnemoc> pdksh?
16:48 < mnemoc> rxr: ?
16:48 < morfoh> yep
16:48 < mnemoc> who needs that?
16:50 < morfoh> mnemoc: mnemosyne on trunk :)
16:50 < mnemoc> ehm
16:50 < morfoh> :D
16:50 < mnemoc> what package makes it
16:50 < morfoh> pdksh
16:50  * mnemoc slaps morfoh 
16:51 < morfoh> ouch 
16:51 < morfoh> why ?
16:51 < mnemoc> you know why
16:51 < morfoh> no!
16:51 < mnemoc> mkinitrd needs cpio, who needs pdksh?
16:52 < mnemoc> what package fails if pdksh is not there?
16:52 < morfoh> mnemoc: please express yourself in a more decent fashion :p
16:52 < morfoh> next time 
16:52 < morfoh> linux26
16:53 < mnemoc> what part of linux26?
16:54 < misl> btw: pdksh fails on my  2.1 ref build
16:54 < morfoh> I guess it's part of stage2 
16:54 < mnemoc> misl: paste?
16:56 < misl> mnemoc: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/sVPiSv33.html
16:56 < morfoh> mnemoc: look--> package/base/mkinitrd/mkinitrd.sh
16:56 < mnemoc> morfoh: so it is mkinitrd, not linux26
16:57 < morfoh> <mnemoc> what package fails if pdksh is not there?
16:58 < misl> # grep pdksh package/*/*/*.cache
16:58 < misl> #
16:59 < morfoh> brb ... have to eat sth.
17:02 < mnemoc> misl: .cache files are out of sync :)
17:02 < CIA-2> rene * r14934 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/usb-backup-restore.sh: * fixed archivista usb-backup-restore typo
17:06 < mnemoc> damn hooks, that the only thing that keep us using bash :\
17:12 < mnemoc> http://bashburn.sourceforge.net/  doh
17:13 < karasz> :D
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17:46 < owl> sigh
17:47 < demian> mnemoc: that the only thing that keep us using bash :\
17:48 < misl> http://www.opendx.org/ looks nice
17:48 < demian> mnemoc: u meant hooks as function overriding ?
17:51 < rxr> cu
17:51 < owl> bye rxr 
17:51 < misl> cu rxr
17:54 < rxr> mnemoc: you mean as slick and lean bash replacement?
17:54 < rxr> the cleaner ueber bash?
17:54 < rxr> managed in a open revision tree with actual bugfix minior releases?
17:55 < rxr> or in an more advanced language than shell code ?
17:56 < CIA-2> rene * r14935 /trunk/package/base/kbd/kbd.init: 
17:56 < CIA-2> * workarounded kbd.init to not print a usage on stop, placeholder for real
17:56 < CIA-2>  code
17:58 -!- Bart- [n=bart@osiris.osk.enformatic.pl] has joined #t2
17:58 < Bart-> hi
17:59 < misl> Hey Simpson is back :)
17:59 < misl> Bart-: where are you from?
18:00 < Bart-> try /whois ;]
18:00 < misl> ahh, poland :)
18:04 < misl> uhh? the problem with pdksh on 2.1 ref build is problably due too the following in config.h
18:04 < misl> #define SIZEOF_INT 0
18:04 < misl> /* The number of bytes in a long.  */
18:04 < misl> #define SIZEOF_LONG 0
18:10 < rxr> misl: ah - I think I fixed that on trunk
18:10 < mnemoc> rxr: yes, to become bourne shell compatible
18:10 < rxr> misl: just skip it and I take a look either at midnight or tomorrow
18:10 < rxr> look in what revisions to merge back
18:11 < misl> rxr: ack
18:11 < misl> I have 20 more minutes to look at the next error :( before noisy dies
18:13 < CIA-2> rene * r14936 /trunk/package/x86/microcode_ctl/microcode.init: 
18:13 < CIA-2> * removed broken and "file exist" leaking symlink hackery on microcode.init
18:13 < CIA-2>  the nodes should be correct in the first place by the underlying /dev
18:13 < CIA-2>  system
18:14 < rxr> cu
18:14 < rxr> finally
18:14 < misl> In opensc errorlog: 
18:14 < misl> /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/3.4.4/../../../../x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/bin/ld:
18:14 < misl>  /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/3.4.4/../../../../lib64/libassuan.a(assuan-errors.o): relocation R_X86_64_32 against `a local symbol' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC
18:14 < misl> cu rxr :)
18:19 < misl> What is [F] FPIC-QUIRK for in the .desc files?
18:19 < misl> ^---- mnemoc?
18:20 < mnemoc> auto-append -fPIC
18:21 < misl> maybe that is needed for opensc too
18:21 < mnemoc> try :)
18:21 < misl> I was about too
18:22 < demian> bye
18:22 < misl> bye bye demian
18:26 < misl> mnemoc: no luck :( the error is still
18:26 < misl>  /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/3.4.4/../../../../lib64/libassuan.a(assuan-errors.o): relocation R_X86_64_32 against `a local symbol' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC
18:28 < Bart-> brb
18:28 < Bart-> .quit
18:28 < Bart-> oops
18:28 -!- Bart- [n=bart@osiris.osk.enformatic.pl] has quit ["Who's General Failure and why he's reading my disk?"]
18:31 < misl> o_o www.opensc.org is either down or gone
18:36 < morfoh> re
18:36 < misl> wb morfoh
18:36 < mnemoc> wb mofoh
18:37 < sepp> wb morfoh 
18:37 < morfoh> thx memoc :)
18:37 < morfoh> thx hansi :)
18:37 < sepp> hehe
18:37 < misl> :(
18:38 < morfoh> misl: oh! why are you sad ? ... didn't you found the button ?
18:38 < mnemoc> misl: libassuan is from the same package or a dependency?
18:38 < mnemoc> misl: if it's a dependency add FPIC-QUIRK to that package, and rebuild
18:40 < misl> mnemoc: I will try tomorrow
18:41 < misl> morfoh: I will no longer talk to you
18:41 < mnemoc> oh
18:42 < misl> morfoh: you thanked mnemoc and hansi but forgot output you moped friend
18:42 < misl> output = about
18:42 < mnemoc> :)
18:42 < mnemoc> that's my kind of typo :)
18:44 < morfoh> misl: I'm sorry ... I'm old, blind and tired ... please forgive me :)
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18:44 < Bart-> r
18:44 < mnemoc> wb Bart- 
18:44 < misl> morfoh: your forgiven :)
18:44 < morfoh> misl: I'll never forget the picture ... me and ol'rocket on a moped :)
18:44 < mnemoc> o_O
18:45 < misl> hehe
18:45 < misl> morfoh: now we don't talk any longer to mnemoc
18:45 < morfoh> mnemoc: yeah ... during our time at the police :p
18:45  * sepp hands old glasses to mole-morfoh :)
18:45 < misl> he forgot about the time we visited him on a moped all the way across africa
18:46 < mnemoc> O_o
18:46 < morfoh> sepp: thanks ... but it seems that the glasses are made of a Mitropa ashtray :)
18:47 < sepp> :)
18:47 < morfoh> sepp: but I like it ... yeah :)
18:48 < morfoh> misl: btw, who is mnemoc ?
18:48 < misl> :)
18:48 < mnemoc> noone
18:48 < misl> morfoh: when was it again we visited him. so we can point him to the irc log as proof.
18:49 < mnemoc> uh
18:49 < misl> brb, putting my son to bath
18:49 < morfoh> misl: happy swimming :p
18:50  * morfoh is trying to install this f* danish-german dictionary using wine .... what a pain in the a**
18:57 < Bart-> cat: /t2/t2-trunk/build/system-2.2.0-alpha-x86-athlon-xp-generic/var/adm/flists/*: No such file or directory
18:57 < Bart-> sed: can't read /t2/t2-trunk/build/system-2.2.0-alpha-x86-athlon-xp-generic/var/adm/flists/linux-header: No such file or directory
18:57 < Bart-> should I ignore this?
18:57 < mnemoc> morfoh: dictd?
18:58 < mnemoc> Bart-: uhm, can you paste the whole context at http://www.rafb.net/paste/ ?
18:58 < morfoh> mnemoc: what is dictd doing ... does it have a friendly UI for non-techies ?
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18:59 < Bart-> nope, out of buffer now
18:59 < Bart-> I'm building from trunk, this was on building kernel-2.6.12
19:00 < mnemoc> morfoh: http://freebie.miraclenet.co.th/programs/mrcldict/
19:00 < mnemoc> Bart-: linux-header :)
19:00 < Bart-> maybe there is some log file
19:00 < Bart-> mnemoc, right
19:01 < mnemoc> Bart-: /t2/t2-trunk/build/system-2.2.0-alpha-x86-athlon-xp-generic/TOOLCHAIN/log
19:01 < Bart-> earlier build crashed on dietlibc <- do I really need this?
19:02 < karasz> re
19:05 < Bart-> mnemoc, I'm not sure what this link has to do with T2
19:06 < Bart-> opps, sorry, grabbed the wrong URL ;]
19:06 < mnemoc> Bart-: if you can publish http, try bash ./misc/archive/RegressionsReport -cfg system, and publish regressions/system
19:07 < Bart-> mnemoc, http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/95Yrto80.html
19:08 < Bart-> mnemoc, during build?
19:08 < misl> mnemoc: read about how morfoh I I visited you
19:08 < misl> http://www.t2-project.org/irclogs/t2-2005-12-21 
19:08 < misl> somewhere around 21:13
19:08 < misl> :D
19:08 < misl> I I = and I
19:09 < mnemoc> misl: :)
19:10 < mnemoc> Bart-: mooooore context :)
19:10 < Bart-> mnemoc, no way to run this RegresionSomethig: svn: not found
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19:11 < mnemoc> Bart-: :\
19:12 < mnemoc> misl: nice visit
19:22 < karasz> mnemoc: i am kinda loosing my patience with this smtp issue ;(
19:23 < karasz> right now i am thinkin about init 3 and re emerge kde base and libs
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19:23 < morfoh> f* wine 
19:23 < morfoh> re hi :|
19:23 < karasz> wb morfoh to u 2...:)
19:24 < morfoh> thx karasz :)
19:24 < karasz> try vodka kommrad morfoh 
19:25 < morfoh> karasz: that wouldn't be a good idea :p
19:25 < karasz> ?
19:25 < karasz> which one?
19:26 < karasz> aaah, wine -> vodka?
19:26 < karasz> maybe you are right, didn't thought too much about it..
19:30 < owl> *yawn*
19:31 < misl> owl: is killing trees that tiring?
19:31 < misl> :)
19:32 < owl> misl: yep ;)
19:32 < owl> nah. worked the whole day and so
19:33 < misl> hey, I did that too and got up a 5:30 in the morning
19:33 < misl> I not yawning :)
19:35 < karasz> hmm in what package is libcrypt?
19:35 < owl> uff. i would die :)
19:36 < morfoh> owl: don't worry ... usually rockets have more power than owls
19:36 < morfoh> :p
19:36 < owl> morfoh: pfff :)
19:41 < misl> owl: I think I die in about 1 hour from now :)
19:41 < owl> misl: nah, sleep :p
19:42 < misl> ack
19:42 < mnemoc> karasz: please send patches as text/plain, not application/octet-stream
19:48 < mnemoc> morfoh: i got the confirmation of the charge to the card, so... ticket abemus
19:49 < morfoh> mnemoc: sorry ... ?
19:49 < mnemoc> err
19:50 < mnemoc> that suppose to be /msg
19:50 < mnemoc> i need to rest :\
19:50 < morfoh> mnemoc: me too :\
19:50 < misl> mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
19:50 < mnemoc> misl: are you a cow?
19:50 < misl> come on guys, say your mantras :)
19:51 < misl> and find some inner peace
19:51 < mnemoc> that's oooooooommmmm..... not mmmmmm
19:51 < misl> mnemoc: dutch cow say boooeeeeeehh
19:51 < mnemoc> sheeps say boooeeeeeehh here
19:51 < morfoh> plonkplonkplonkplonk
19:52 < misl> mnemoc: sheeps say mmeehhh
19:54 < mnemoc> uhm
19:54 < morfoh> chilean sheep vs. dutch sheep
19:55 < owl> lol. 
19:55 < owl> muuuuuuuuuh!
19:55 < morfoh> in the left corner mnemoc aka "boooeeeeeehh" vs. misl aka "mmeehhh" in the right corner
19:56 < morfoh> oh! there is an owl too ...
19:56 < mnemoc> boooeeeeeehh!!!
19:56 < misl> place your bets :)
19:56 < mnemoc> misl's is shorter
19:56 < karasz> mnemoc: i send them as i could with sylpheed
19:57 < misl> mnemoc: shortest wins :)
19:57 < karasz> my kmail is still not sending...
19:58 < mnemoc> karasz: nail or mailx :)
19:58 < mnemoc> karasz: even mutt should work ,-)
19:58 < karasz> wouldn't be wiser to solve kmail?
19:58 < karasz> mutt lacs smth program ;)
19:58 < karasz> i tried
19:59 < mnemoc> uh
19:59 < karasz> but i am on something
20:00 < karasz> kioslave: ####### CRASH ###### protocol = smtp pid = 12004 signal = 6
20:00 < karasz> kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: KLibrary: /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.7: undefined symbol: PKCS7_content_free
20:00 < karasz> kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: KLibrary: /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.7: undefined symbol: OpenSSL_add_all_algorithms
20:00 < karasz> kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: KLibrary: /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.7: undefined symbol: OpenSSL_add_all_algorithms_conf
20:00 < karasz> kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: KLibrary: /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.7: undefined symbol: OpenSSL_add_all_algorithms_noconf
20:00 < karasz> kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: KLibrary: /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.7: undefined symbol: PKCS7_content_free
20:00 < karasz> kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: KLibrary: /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.7: undefined symbol: OpenSSL_add_all_algorithms
20:00 < karasz> kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: KLibrary: /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.7: undefined symbol: OpenSSL_add_all_algorithms_conf
20:00 < karasz> kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: KLibrary: /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.7: undefined symbol: OpenSSL_add_all_algorithms_noconf
20:00 < karasz> *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid next size (normal): 0x0000000000602800 ***
20:00 < karasz> sorry
20:00 < karasz> i didn't noticed that is that long
20:01 < mnemoc> karasz: you are mixing t2 2.1 and t2 2.2, that's bad
20:02 < karasz> but i am not
20:02 < karasz> at least not willingly ...
20:02 < karasz> i even checked on online svn for versions....
20:02 < karasz> so there are 2 posibs
20:03 < karasz> 1. i am stupid or blind (most probably)
20:03 < karasz> 2. i do not mix them (less probably)
20:03 < mnemoc> 3. libcrypto.so is borked
20:03 < karasz> borked?
20:04 < Baldzius> karasz: tried re-emerge openssl?
20:04 < mnemoc> never saw the muppets?
20:04 < karasz> i was too little ;(
20:04 < karasz> nope
20:05 < Baldzius> try
20:05 < karasz> Baldzius: nope
20:05 < karasz> but i was thinkin' of it
20:05 < mnemoc> karasz: but don't update it
20:05 < karasz> ?
20:05 < karasz> ./scripts/Emerge-Pcg -cfg mine -force openssl
20:05 < mnemoc> if you run a t2 2.1, you must stay at 0.9.7x
20:06 < mnemoc> Pkg
20:06 < karasz> Pkg
20:06 < karasz> is that ok?
20:06 < karasz> mnemoc karasz: but don't update it
20:06 < mnemoc> depends :)
20:06 < mnemoc> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Chef
20:06 < mnemoc> karasz: ---^
20:07 < karasz> Downloading openssl:download/mirror/o/openssl-0.9.7g.tar.gz ..
20:07 < karasz> yup i kinda know that guy
20:07 < karasz> :D
20:08 < karasz> == 22:08:31 =[9]=> Building security/openssl [0.9.7g 2.1-stable].
20:08 < karasz> 0.9.7g
20:08 < karasz> sounds like 2.1?
20:09 < mnemoc> yes
20:09 < karasz> good
20:09 < karasz> from where did you draw the conclusion that i am mixin 2.1 with 2.2?
20:09 < morfoh> mnemoc: i think 0.9.7i should be the one on 2.1
20:10 < karasz> erorrs were about libcrypto 0.9.7...
20:10 < mnemoc> http://www.rinkworks.com/dialect/dialectp.cgi?dialect=bork&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t2-project.org
20:11 < mnemoc> morfoh: sure, after a full reference building using it
20:11 < karasz> good
20:11 < karasz> openssl emerged without probs
20:11 < karasz> now what?
20:11 < mnemoc> pray
20:12 < karasz> before that?
20:12 < karasz> restart kde or what?
20:12 < karasz> or it should be workin' now...?
20:14 < karasz> because it is not...
20:14 < karasz> re emerging kdebase
20:14 < karasz> i cannot think of anything else....
20:14 < Baldzius> kdelibs
20:15 < karasz> kioslaves are in kdebase
20:15 < karasz> at least that is what grep told me...
20:15 < misl> mnemoc: what did you drink?
20:15 < Baldzius> i said don't forget to re-emerge kdelibs also
20:15 < karasz> root@karasz:/usr/src/t2-src# grep 'kioslave' package/*/*/*.desc
20:15 < karasz> package/kde/kdebase/kdebase.desc:[T] kate, kicker, kdeprint, kioslaves and much much more.
20:16 < karasz> ahum
20:16 < karasz> ok
20:16 < misl> that site sounds like your are drunk
20:16 < mnemoc> misl: that's börk my friend
20:16 < karasz> so root@karasz:/usr/src/t2-src# ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg -cfg mine kdebase kdelibs
20:16 < karasz> ?
20:16 < mnemoc> deps will kill you :)
20:16 < karasz> -deps=none?
20:17 < Baldzius> i'd say kdelibs first then kdebase
20:17 < mnemoc> -dry-run
20:17 < mnemoc> Emerge-Pkg sort them
20:17 < karasz> -dry-run ?
20:17 < misl> mnemoc: ahh. birdie birdie chop chop chop chop
20:18 < karasz> what does it do?
20:18 < sepp> it does not paddle :)
20:18 < karasz> root@karasz:/usr/src/t2-src# ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg -cfg mine -dry-run kdelibs kdebase
20:18 < karasz> Packages scheduled to build: none
20:18 < karasz> -force?
20:18 < mnemoc> misl: :)
20:19 < mnemoc> karasz: ack
20:19 < sepp> how can i change something in .config from a lx_3rd_party_modules?
20:19 < karasz> root@karasz:/usr/src/t2-src# ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg -cfg mine -force -dry-run kdelibs kdebase
20:19 < karasz> checking kdelibs ... Build forced. Added.
20:19 < karasz> checking kdebase ... Build forced. Added.
20:19 < karasz> checking doxygen ... Not installed. Added.
20:19 < karasz> checking graphviz ... Not installed. Added.
20:19 < karasz> checking jasper ... Not installed. Added.
20:19 < karasz> checking libdockapp ... Not installed. Added.
20:19 < karasz> checking openexr ... Not installed. Added.
20:19 < karasz> checking xorg-cyrillic-fonts ... Not installed. Added.
20:19 < karasz> checking kaffe ... Not installed. Added.
20:19 < karasz> checking samba ... New version (3.0.21a -> 3.0.20b). Added.
20:19 < karasz> checking sun-jdk-150 ... Not installed. Added.
20:19 < karasz> Packages scheduled to build: jasper doxygen openexr samba kdelibs sun-jdk-150 xorg-cyrillic-fonts kdebase libdockapp graphviz
20:20 < mnemoc> checking samba ... New version (3.0.21a -> 3.0.20b). Added. ??
20:20 < mnemoc> karasz: now choose if you want deps or not :)
20:20 < karasz> samba i can understand, i made the patches and built for trunk
20:20 < karasz> kaffe i have installed
20:20 < karasz> sun-jdk i do not need i have blackdown
20:20 < karasz> xorg-cyrylic no need also
20:21 < mnemoc> karasz: samba is 3.0.21a at 2.1:HEAD
20:21 < karasz> the others i can't tell
20:21 < mnemoc> karasz: -deps=none :)
20:21 < karasz> about samba
20:21 < karasz> do you remember that csh bash stuff in adduser?
20:22 < karasz> that was when i got the HEAD samba
20:23 < karasz> i really need to put a vserver to work here
20:23 < karasz> otherwise i am doomed
20:23 < karasz> my wks will crash all the time due to mixing
20:23 < mnemoc> wasn't that commited?
20:23 < karasz> ?
20:23 < karasz> i dunno
20:23 < karasz> you tell me
20:23 < karasz> :D
20:24 < mnemoc> i do only merges form trunk :)
20:24 < mnemoc> gteom
20:24 < mnemoc> err
20:24 < mnemoc> froim
20:24 < mnemoc> from!
20:25 < karasz> i sent the mail to ML on 2006-01-16 at 23:53
20:25 < karasz> Fixed smbadduser to really be csh
20:27 < mnemoc> why are the days so short? :\
20:30 < Bart-> mnemoc, how build system finds out what patches to apply in what order? Are they hardcoded in some file or it just globs *.patch files and crash when glob sorts in wrong order? ;]
20:31 < mnemoc> Bart-: globbing, if an order is needed, do the right naming :)
20:32 < CIA-2> aldas * r14937 /trunk/package/scientific/scilab/ (compile-fix.patch scilab.conf scilab.desc): 
20:32 < CIA-2> * updated scilab (3.1.1 -> 4.0-rc1)
20:32 < CIA-2> * added compile-fix.patch
20:32 < mnemoc> Bart-: a patchlist is generated, which you can alter before it's used
20:32 < mnemoc> Bart-: currently no package needs hackery on the patchlist
20:33 < Bart-> mnemoc, no file called "patchlist". Where can I find it? I'm sure it needs some hackery ;]
20:35 < Bart-> build just crashed on dietlibc
20:35 < mnemoc> Bart-: no file, an enviromental variable $patchfiles
20:35 < mnemoc> Bart-: i really doubt a patch reordering would afect that
20:35 < Bart-> wasn't touched yet
20:36 < Bart-> you have a typo or so
20:36 < CIA-2> aldas * r14938 /trunk/package/network/net-snmp/net-snmp.desc: * updated net-snmp (5.3 -> 5.3.0.1)
20:36 < mnemoc> Bart-: publish the error log and we can review
20:37 < Bart-> mnemoc, http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/SbH8VY26.html
20:37 < mnemoc> Bart-: at least another 30 lines above
20:38 < mnemoc> Bart-: better if you publish a regressions report 
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20:39 < mnemoc> if you can't publish a regressions report, please paste your config/system/config
20:40 < CIA-2> aldas * r14939 /trunk/package/network/libidn/libidn.desc: * updated libidn (0.5.19 -> 0.5.20)
20:41 < Bart-> mnemoc, http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/fRZrRE25.html
20:42 < mnemoc> Bart-: i see all patches applying perfectly :) ..... are you using trunk:HEAD ? paste your config please
20:42 < Bart-> I guess some patch needs hackery ;]
20:43 < mnemoc> why your paste has a blank area?
20:44 < Bart-> where? on the right?
20:45 < karasz> yup
20:45 < karasz> on the right
20:45 < Bart-> maybe somethings wrong with mrxvt or with my mouse ;]
20:45 < Bart-> never seen this before ;]
20:46 < Bart-> mnemoc, which one is config? config/system/config ?
20:46 < owl> hm. mrxvt? wrong? what?
20:47 < mnemoc> Bart-: the real error log is at /t2/t2-trunk/build/system-2.2.0-alpha-x86-athlon-xp-generic/var/adm/logs/1-dietlibc.err
20:49 < karasz> mnemoc: could you look at http://karasz.pastebin.ca/37646
20:49 < karasz> ?
20:53 < mnemoc> karasz: and what happen after that?
20:53 < Bart-> mnemoc, http://paste.husk.org/5051
20:54 < karasz> nothing much
20:54 < Bart-> blaks show up again
20:54 < karasz> i am just woried about that error
20:54 < Bart-> *blanks
20:54 < karasz> Trying to move old root to /initrd ... failed
20:54 < karasz> mostly about that... ^^
20:55 < mnemoc> Bart-: can you paste your /t2/t2-trunk/build/system-2.2.0-alpha-x86-athlon-xp-generic/TOOLCHAIN/tools.cross/wrapper/i686-t2-linux-gnu-strip
20:55 < Bart-> I don't see error in it
20:56 < mnemoc> Bart-: is it an script or binary?
20:57 < Bart-> sh script, hang on, I'm pasting
20:57 < Bart-> mnemoc, http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/VdIriz38.html
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20:59 < mnemoc> Bart-: /bin/sh --version
20:59 < Bart-> do I need bash? Oh no!
21:00 < mnemoc> type -p bash ?
21:00 < Bart-> maszyna bart ~ $ /bin/sh --version
21:00 < Bart-> /bin/sh: /bin/sh: --: unknown option
21:00 < Bart-> ;]
21:01 < Bart-> its pkdsh 5.2.14 
21:01 < mnemoc> pdksh 
21:01 < Bart-> I forgot that I may need bash
21:01 < Bart-> pdksh with ksh features disabled 
21:01 < mnemoc> :)
21:01 < Bart-> to behave like pure sh
21:02 < Bart-> wth hex arithmetics which come in patch ;]
21:02 < mnemoc> seems that wrapper aint 'pure bourne shell'
21:02 < Bart-> all, riht, i can uninstall it
21:02 < Bart-> but it is faster than bash ;]
21:03 < Bart-> mnemoc, how can I continue?
21:03 < mnemoc> Build-Target again
21:03 < mnemoc> Bart-: and you blaming poor $patchfiles
21:05 < Bart-> well, I have own way of building packages
21:05 < Bart-> but it's not autopmate and I'm tired of doing all this stuff manually
21:06 < Bart-> does T2 support UTF8? mine packages do
21:07 < mnemoc> Bart-: you are welcome to send patches to make /bin/sh scripts 'pure bourne shell' capables
21:07 < mnemoc> Bart-: yes
21:09 < karasz> hmm does it matter that i am in kde?
21:10 < karasz> i mean for the build?
21:10 < Bart-> mnemoc, well, I'not sure it behaves like sh, I just believe it does
21:11 < Bart-> mnemoc, http://www.smlw.pl/~wytnijto/nosrc/misc/pdksh/
21:11 < Bart-> mostly from PLD
21:12 < mnemoc> since they managed to screw shadow and pam i don't really trust them
21:12 < karasz> i have 2634 Jan 20 22:37:29 karasz modprobe: FATAL: Module /dev/snd not found.
21:12 < karasz> in /var/log/messages
21:13 < mnemoc> karasz: o.o
21:13 < karasz> but /dev/snd is a directory not a file...
21:13 < Bart-> mnemoc, they hate stable systems
21:13 < karasz> i guess alsa don't know that...
21:13 < Bart-> mnemoc, shadows author is also a PLD developer
21:14 < karasz> ofcourse not all 2634 are on the same date...
21:14 < Bart-> mnemoc, but this sh is stable and well tested ;]
21:16 < mnemoc> Bart-: http://www.thkukuk.de/pam/pwdutils/
21:16 < Bart-> which one is in T2?
21:16 < mnemoc> Bart-: see what changes are needed to run our selfcalled /bin/sh scripts with your minimalistic sh.... if it still run on mine, the patch will be applied
21:17 < mnemoc> Bart-: t2 is a system development enviroment, you choose what packages to use.
21:17 < mnemoc> Bart-: de-facto standards are also t2 defaults, but it's just a thing of package selection
21:18 < Bart-> rotfl, so I shouldn't have to download 50% of packages I have now in downloads directory
21:19 < mnemoc> Bart-: 1) learn what is T2, 2) learn how to use T2, 3) learn how to customize T2, 4) learn how to package for T2, 5) learn how to make your own target using T2
21:19 < mnemoc> on what step are you?
21:20 < Bart-> mnemoc, right now I'm trying to be patient but why the h* build system downloaded 2 kernels?
21:20 < Bart-> 2.6.12 and 2.6.15 <- one is not sufgficient?
21:20 < mnemoc> Bart-: linux-header can be != than linux26
21:21 < Bart-> mnemoc, well, I have 2x2.6 and I'm not going to use any of them
21:21 < mnemoc> Bart-: currently linux-header != linux26, because the last version needs lot of extra sanitization to be used to build a system
21:22 < Bart-> mnemoc, what glibc-headers you use?
21:22 < mnemoc> Bart-: btw, linux is not he only kernel
21:23 < Bart-> but I thing one 2.6.x is enough
21:23 < mnemoc> we PLD calls 'glibc-headers' is a satinized versions of linux26's .h files, stupidly called 'glibc-headers'
21:23 < mnemoc> 2.6.12 on trunk iirc
21:23 < mnemoc> on T2 2.1 both are 2.6.11.10
21:24 < mnemoc> any libc needs the headers of it's kernel, not just glibc
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21:28 < Bart-> mnemoc, ok, I don't have much time
21:28 < Bart-> I'll try to find out what;'s wrong with this script
21:28 < Bart-> brb
21:30 < Bart-> mnemoc, looks like there is no sed-like // substitution in this sh
21:30 < Bart-> at all
21:31 < Bart-> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/VdIriz38.html
21:42 < LMJ> GTG
21:42 < LMJ> see you tomorrow guys
21:42 < mnemoc> Bart-: that's *bad*
21:42 < owl> bye LMJ 
21:43 < mnemoc> cu LMJ 
21:43 < karasz> cu SerWou
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21:43 < Bart-> mnemoc, s/bin\/sh/bin\/bash/
21:47 < mnemoc> Bart-: scripts/Build-Tools:177
21:47 < mnemoc> Bart-: svn diff will be your friend
21:48 < Bart-> I'll better patch manually since I have only diff
21:51 < mnemoc> Bart-: if you really plan to use T2 you will need svn
21:52 < Bart-> I hope T2 has one ;]
21:54 < mnemoc> Bart-: ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg -deps=none apr apr-util neon subversion
21:54 < Bart-> wow :]
21:54 < sepp> is there a "smart" way to inject a kernel config option from a 3rd party mod?
21:55 < sepp> CONFIG_FOO=m e.g.
21:55 < mnemoc> sepp: $confscripts
21:56 < mnemoc> package/base/linux24/linux-conf.in:78:  for x in $confscripts ; do
21:56 < mnemoc> package/base/linux24/linux-conf.in-79-          echo "  running: $x"
21:56 < mnemoc> package/base/linux24/linux-conf.in-80-          sh $x .config
21:56 < mnemoc> package/base/linux24/linux-conf.in-81-  done
21:56 < sepp> ahh thanks :)
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21:57 < karasz> :(
21:57 < Bart-> ok guys, thx for yuor time
21:57 < mnemoc> ?
21:57 < Bart-> cu
21:57 < karasz> re emerged kdelibs and kdebase
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21:57 < karasz> kmail works not ;(
21:57 < mnemoc> karasz: uh
21:57 < Baldzius> same error?
21:57 < karasz> yup
21:59 < karasz> `The process for the smtp://80.97........ protocol died unexpectedly`
21:59 < karasz> openssl was re emerged
22:02 < karasz> i am runnin' out of ideeas...
22:03 < Baldzius> well you have one left
22:03 < Baldzius> update to kde 3.5
22:03 < karasz> do not tell me to reinstall the cd's please
22:04 < karasz> again mixing trunk with 2.1?
22:04 < karasz> mnemoc: would kill me for sure
22:04 < Baldzius> just kde
22:05 < karasz> hmmm emerge from trunk?
22:05 < karasz> kdelibs kdebase?
22:05 < karasz> but they have dependencies like hell
22:05 < Baldzius> -nodeps
22:05 < Baldzius> sh!t
22:05 < Baldzius> -deps=none :)
22:06 < karasz> they need openssl and other stuff iirc
22:06 < Baldzius> you have openssl
22:06 < mnemoc> karasz: afais your openssl is missing symbols, that's not related to kdefluf
22:07 < karasz> but?
22:07 < karasz> i re emerged openssl from 2.1
22:08 < mnemoc> probably libtool intrinsic-brokenness
22:09 < karasz> but it worked.... :'(
22:10 < Baldzius> so what you did before it stoped?
22:10 < karasz> before my move from /usr/lio to /usr/lib
22:10 < mnemoc> oh
22:10 < mnemoc> what ldd to libcrypto say?
22:11 < karasz> ?
22:11 < karasz> ldd /usr/lib/libcrypto.so
22:11 < karasz>         libdl.so.2 => /lib64/libdl.so.2 (0x00002aaaaad0f000)
22:11 < karasz>         libc.so.6 => /lib64/libc.so.6 (0x00002aaaaae12000)
22:11 < karasz>         /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x0000555555554000)
22:12 < mnemoc> just that? :(
22:12 < mnemoc> uhm
22:12 < mnemoc> wait
22:12 < mnemoc> /usr/lib/libcrypto.so depending on /lib64 ??
22:12 < karasz> seems like it...
22:13 < demian> hi
22:13 < karasz> ldd /usr/lib/libcrypto.so
22:13 < karasz>         libdl.so.2 => /lib64/libdl.so.2 (0x00002aaaaad0f000)
22:13 < karasz>         libc.so.6 => /lib64/libc.so.6 (0x00002aaaaae12000)
22:13 < karasz>         /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x0000555555554000)
22:13 < karasz> root@karasz:~# ldd /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0
22:13 < karasz>         libdl.so.2 => /lib64/libdl.so.2 (0x00002aaaaad0f000)
22:13 < karasz>         libc.so.6 => /lib64/libc.so.6 (0x00002aaaaae12000)
22:13 < karasz>         /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x0000555555554000)
22:13 < karasz> root@karasz:~# ldd /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.7
22:13 < karasz>         libdl.so.2 => /lib64/libdl.so.2 (0x00002aaaaad0f000)
22:13 < karasz>         libc.so.6 => /lib64/libc.so.6 (0x00002aaaaae12000)
22:13 < karasz>         /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x0000555555554000)
22:13 < mnemoc> karasz: no idea how will you fix that
22:14 < karasz> it is normal to have libcrypto.so.0 and libcrypto.so.0.9.7 ?
22:14 < mnemoc> symlinks
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22:14 < mnemoc> hi demian
22:14 < karasz> yes symlinks
22:15 < karasz> mnemoc:  but what is wrong?
22:18 < mnemoc> ls {/usr,}/lib64/libcrypto.*
22:19 < karasz> root@karasz:~# ls {/usr,}/lib64/libcrypto.*
22:19 < karasz> ls: /usr/lib64/libcrypto.*: No such file or directory
22:19 < karasz> ls: /lib64/libcrypto.*: No such file or directory
22:19 < karasz> root@karasz:~# ls {/usr,}/lib64/libcrypto.*
22:19 < karasz> ls: /usr/lib64/libcrypto.*: No such file or directory
22:19 < karasz> ls: /lib64/libcrypto.*: No such file or directory
22:19 < sepp> good night * :)
22:20 < mnemoc> ehm, ok
22:24 < karasz> gn8 sepp 
22:25 < Baldzius> karasz: check paths in /etc/ld.so.conf
22:25 < karasz> /usr/lib64
22:25 < karasz> /usr/lib
22:25 < karasz> /usr/X11/lib64
22:25 < karasz> /usr/X11/lib
22:25 < demian-unpunishe> bye, cu next week
22:25 < karasz> /opt/*/lib64
22:25 < karasz> /opt/*/lib
22:26 < karasz> /usr/local/lib64
22:26 < karasz> /usr/local/lib
22:26 < Baldzius> where is "/lib64" ?
22:26 < karasz> first line
22:26 < Baldzius> oh :)
22:26 < karasz> i must have droped it
22:27 < karasz> /usr/lib64
22:27 < karasz> /usr/lib
22:27 < karasz> /usr/X11/lib64
22:27 < karasz> /usr/X11/lib
22:27 < karasz> /opt/*/lib64
22:27 < karasz> /opt/*/lib
22:27 < karasz> /usr/local/lib64
22:27 < karasz> /usr/local/lib
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22:27 < karasz> nah 
22:27 < karasz> it was interpreted as a irc command
22:28 < Baldzius> 'k
22:28 < Baldzius> out of ideas :)
22:28 < karasz> i was out of ideeas some 2 hours ago ;(
22:29 < Baldzius> looks like you broked smtg if it worked
22:29 < karasz> i must have broked smth by trying to tidy up
22:35 < karasz> i will must use thunderbird
22:35 < karasz> that is it
22:35 < karasz> saddly but i do not know what else to do
22:37 < Baldzius> TB is not bad
22:37 < karasz> i don't like the way it handles rules
22:38 < karasz> i have some dirs and i like to automaticali move emails to them
22:38 < karasz> it allways put it in Inbox and then if i say apply rules it moves them ;(
22:39 < Baldzius> hm can't say anything, don't use here any rules :)
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23:12 < madtux> hi
23:14 < karasz> hello madtux 
23:14 < madtux> hello karasz 
23:53 < morfoh> gn8 folks
23:53 < owl> gn8 morfoh :p
23:53 < morfoh> gn8 owl :p
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23:55 < mnemoc> rehi
23:56 < karasz> rehi senor mnemoc 
23:57 < karasz> cu all guys
23:57 < mnemoc> hi kmail
23:57 < karasz> nah
23:57 < karasz> Thunderbird now
23:57 < karasz> i couldn't get KMail on again :(
23:58 < mnemoc> karasz: let's prepare a 2.1.2 to you :) so you can reinstall for good
23:58 < karasz> i am awaiting that :)
23:59 < karasz> mnemoc: i have some more minutes
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