--- Log opened Mon Jan 02 00:00:00 2006 00:01 -!- menomc [n=amery@200.75.27.92] has joined #t2 00:01 -!- mnemoc [n=amery@200.75.27.10] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 00:02 < jsaw> everything ok... 00:02 < rxr> strace ? 00:02 < jsaw> no 00:02 < menomc> rxr: uhm.... minimal+basic_desktop has xmms?? 00:02 < jsaw> is strace in initramfs? 00:03 < jsaw> menomc: correct your nick :) 00:03 < jsaw> confuses me... 00:03 -!- menomc is now known as mnemoc 00:03 < mnemoc> keepnick.pl does it for me ,-) 00:03 < mnemoc> we it can 00:03 < mnemoc> when* 00:04 < jsaw> mnemoc: ic 00:04 * mnemoc think his altnick is cool 00:04 < mnemoc> ${nick}_ are boring 00:04 < jsaw> confusing ppl is always fun... 00:04 < mnemoc> :) 00:04 < jsaw> rxr: I have no idea what happens there... 00:04 < jsaw> I 00:04 < rxr> hm 00:04 < jsaw> damn new kbd 00:05 < rxr> I have to sleep 00:05 < rxr> cu all 00:05 < jsaw> I'll try again tomorrow 00:05 < jsaw> g`night rxr 00:06 < mnemoc> gn8 rxr 00:06 * jsaw thinks he switches altnick to wasj 00:06 < mnemoc> good luck tomorrow at uni 00:06 < mnemoc> was j. :) 00:06 * jsaw starts dreaming... university... good ol times :p 00:07 * mnemoc wonders if univeristy will be on his future 00:07 < CIA-9> rene * r14402 /trunk/package/ (base/recode/recode.desc textproc/libunicode/libunicode.desc): 00:07 < CIA-9> * marked recode and libunicode AUTOMAKE-QUIRK, needed for at least 00:07 < CIA-9> x86_64 due to autodated config.{sub,guess} 00:07 < jsaw> aha 00:07 < jsaw> rxr went to bed... 00:09 < rxr> hm - maybe we should always copy libtool and autojunk due to outdated files and mark those that shold not be updated ... 00:09 < mnemoc> i said that about a month ago :p 00:09 < mnemoc> but you said we want to save cycles 00:10 < rxr> yeah - let's see how many it will become 00:10 < rxr> at least this way we know what is outdated due to explicit tags 00:10 < rxr> formerly I had mostly no idea due to grep thru all packages files 00:10 < rxr> so - /me needs sleep 00:10 < rxr> cu 00:10 < jsaw> *g* 00:10 < mnemoc> :) 00:10 < mnemoc> cu rxr 00:11 < jsaw> .oO(so wtf is the problem with LIBTOOL=/usr/bin/libtool) 00:11 < jsaw> cu rxr, have fun at uni 00:11 < jsaw> and keep your eyes straight on the letters in your script ;) 00:12 < mnemoc> script? 00:12 < jsaw> lecture script (we use that term here, maybe it's not correct english) 00:13 < mnemoc> what is it about? 00:14 < jsaw> I don't know what lectures rxr takes... 00:15 < jsaw> but at least he shouldn't look at da other girlz 00:16 < jsaw> (men never do that, so, it was a superfluous recommendation...) 00:16 < mnemoc> i thought he had to write one :) 00:16 < mnemoc> :) 00:16 < jsaw> mnemoc: I hope he sooner or later writes one :) 00:16 < mnemoc> have you? 00:17 < jsaw> no. not yet. 00:17 < jsaw> I only did a course "physics for biologists" 00:17 < jsaw> nothing written, only teaching 00:18 < mnemoc> what are you doing now? working for your teacher? 00:18 < jsaw> no. I'll finish another publication, wait for one to come back from review, then fix that, publish my thesis, continue doing experiments... 00:19 < mnemoc> ic 00:19 < jsaw> in science it is like that: "publish or perish" ... 00:19 < jsaw> so I have to continue doing some good experiments... then publish 00:19 < mnemoc> but someone has to pay for your hours so your family can eat :9 00:19 < mnemoc> :) 00:20 < jsaw> two groups, one in america and one nearby are waiting for some prototypes of my microscope... 00:20 < jsaw> so a lot to do 00:20 < mnemoc> "prototypes of my microscope..." :o 00:21 < jsaw> I'll get a foundation the next three month, then my boss will employ me full time 00:22 < jsaw> I'll get a foundation the next three month, then my boss will employ me full time 00:22 < jsaw> ups 00:22 < jsaw> mnemoc: yes. A group in america might use it with oct for endoscopy 00:22 < mnemoc> employ you double full time :) 00:22 < jsaw> (OCT = optical coherence tomogaphy) 00:22 < jsaw> mnemoc: hehe 00:23 < jsaw> in Max-Planck-Society you can spent millions for an experiment, because the ppl doing the experiments don't cost anything 00:23 < jsaw> :P 00:24 < jsaw> oh, I forgot, the admins are waiting for a talk on T2 00:24 < mnemoc> do they want to sponsor t2 too? :) 00:24 < jsaw> no. But maybe I can convince them to use it :) 00:25 < jsaw> And when we have one brick in the wall, we might get other institutes too 00:25 < mnemoc> :) 00:35 -!- axion [n=axion@cpe-24-195-94-82.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:51 < jsaw> o_O 00:52 < jsaw> hotplug++ in initramfs is dynamic ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? 01:08 -!- axion [n=axion@cpe-24-195-94-82.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #t2 01:22 < jsaw> aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 01:23 < jsaw> hotplug++ in stage1 is dynamically linked.... and survices in the initrd created in linux26 01:23 < jsaw> rxr: --^ 01:28 < jsaw> rxr: another thing that might be a problem: cpio doesn't allow overwriting, so adding init a second time may sooner or later lead to a problem (see output of "zcat TOOLCHAIN/isofs/boot/initrd*.img |cpio -i -v") 01:32 < mnemoc> uhm 01:33 < CIA-9> jsaw * r14403 /trunk/package/base/hotplug++/hotplug++.desc: 01:33 < CIA-9> * sort hotplug++ before linux* to make sure the right hotplug++ 01:33 < CIA-9> is included in the linux*'s initrd 01:33 < CIA-9> (review needed: hotplug++ is linked dynamically in stage 1) 01:37 < jsaw> hmmm.... 01:37 < jsaw> now that I think about it, maybe this is an as-needed problem? 01:40 < jsaw> still, the stage5 hotplug++ should be included in the initrd, so the priority change should be ok 02:11 < jsaw> testing installation, cu later 02:12 < mnemoc> cu jsaw 02:53 < jsaw> re 02:54 < mnemoc> running 2.2? 02:54 < jsaw> yep 02:54 < jsaw> finally 02:55 < jsaw> but I'm a bit disappointed about the runit integration 03:01 < jsaw> mnemoc: btw runit, review klogd, there's an echo in the exec line that should not be there 03:12 < mnemoc> # cat packages/socklog-klog.tail 03:12 < mnemoc> input /proc/kmsg 03:12 < mnemoc> log kernel 03:12 < mnemoc> run socklog ucspi 03:13 < mnemoc> $ cat /service/klog/run 03:13 < mnemoc> #!/bin/sh 03:13 < mnemoc> exec 2>&1 03:13 < mnemoc> exec < /proc/kmsg 03:13 < mnemoc> exec socklog ucspi 03:13 < mnemoc> what echo? 03:14 < mnemoc> i stoped integration runit log ago waiting for time to implement a good 'tail' format and installer 03:14 < mnemoc> which have not happen 03:18 < mnemoc> i want to be able to generate from a _minimal_ file init scripts for sysvinit, minit and runit 03:20 < mnemoc> what part of runit integration disappointed you? 03:33 < jsaw> the last line of /etc/runit/klogd/run was 03:33 < jsaw> exec echo $USER ... 03:33 < jsaw> here 03:34 < mnemoc> sysklogd maybe? 03:34 < mnemoc> i use socklog :( 03:34 < jsaw> yep, sysklogd 03:35 < mnemoc> # cat sysklogd-runit-klogd_run.txt 03:35 < mnemoc> #!/bin/sh 03:35 < mnemoc> exec 2>&1 03:35 < mnemoc> LXVER=`uname -r` 03:35 < mnemoc> if [[ "$LXVER" = 2.4.* ]]; then USER="chpst -Unobody" 03:35 < mnemoc> else # on 2.6 you have to use root USER= 03:35 < mnemoc> fi 03:35 < mnemoc> exec echo $USER D_sbindir/klogd -n 03:35 < jsaw> I remove the echo now 03:35 < mnemoc> yes 03:35 < mnemoc> thanks :) 03:35 < mnemoc> commit :p 03:37 < jsaw> eh, no, I can't 03:38 < mnemoc> :( 03:38 < mnemoc> ok, i'll do :) 03:38 < jsaw> subversion missing a library... 03:38 < jsaw> ??? 03:39 < mnemoc> does sysklogd work on runit after that change? 03:39 < mnemoc> i have not used sysklogd in years 03:40 < jsaw> yes 03:40 < CIA-9> amery * r14404 /trunk/package/base/runit/packages/sysklogd-runit-klogd_run.txt: * fixed runit/sysklogd init script, it had abandoned debugging instructions. 03:40 < jsaw> you asked about the disappointments 03:41 < jsaw> e.g. no keyboard settings 03:41 < mnemoc> yes, tell me 03:41 < mnemoc> ? here init.d/system does that 03:41 < jsaw> where's the rocknet script? 03:41 < mnemoc> senseless because rockplug/hotplug++ start interfaces anyway 03:42 < jsaw> init.d/system ? how is that called? 03:42 < mnemoc> /etc/runit/1.d 03:42 < jsaw> mnemoc: sadly they do not... 03:42 < mnemoc> on 2.1 they do 03:42 < jsaw> harhar 03:43 < mnemoc> in fact, network script on 2.1 _fail_ due to redifinitions, because rockplug did initizalization before 03:44 < jsaw> it fails since ages, I know 03:44 < jsaw> but here it's not even called... 03:44 < mnemoc> symlink sysvinit's to etc/runit/1.d to start and 3.d to stop 03:45 < mnemoc> ugly hack, but without a unified thing i had to introduce that 03:45 < jsaw> hmmm 03:46 < mnemoc> 1: configure the box 03:46 < mnemoc> 2: run services 03:46 < mnemoc> 3: deconfigure the box 03:47 < jsaw> yeah, I know 03:47 < jsaw> u already taught me :) 03:47 < mnemoc> *g* 03:48 < jsaw> but I expect to have at least a minimal working system.... 03:48 < mnemoc> hotplug++ doesn't call ifup? 03:48 < jsaw> don't know 03:48 < jsaw> with udev things got more complicated... 03:48 < mnemoc> on 2.1 you get perfectly running systems, if you do the proper pkgsel ,-) 03:48 < jsaw> udev calls hotplug calls x calls y 03:49 < mnemoc> uhm 03:49 < jsaw> .oO(?) 03:49 < jsaw> looks like I will switch back to 2.1... 03:50 < mnemoc> http://svn.exactcode.de/mnemosyne/mnemosyne/trunk/pkgsel/Core/ <--- look at these pkgsel modules 03:52 < jsaw> tomorrow... okay? I'll do the checkout now, only. 03:52 -!- nzg [n=tschmidt@p54AFEB50.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:52 < mnemoc> sure, i'll be here if you have troubles 03:53 < jsaw> :) 03:55 < mnemoc> :) 03:55 < mnemoc> i fear i have only tested those packages on mnemosyne and it's extenders 03:59 < jsaw> :) 04:00 < jsaw> I'm tired, need sleep, 04:00 < jsaw> cu 04:00 < mnemoc> sleep well jsaw 04:02 < jsaw> oh, before I go to bed, 04:03 < jsaw> don't you want to add the external links to mnemosyne target in branches/2.1 ? 04:03 < mnemoc> i'm not sure... externals are unconfortable for people 04:03 < mnemoc> and externals to targets people don't need are even more unconfortable 04:04 < jsaw> hmmm 04:04 < jsaw> ok, anyway 04:04 < jsaw> g'night :) 04:04 < mnemoc> they are also points of breakage, because if i set svn:External as http:// http will be used, even if person _needs_ svn or https to get the tree 04:05 < mnemoc> gn8 jsaw ,-) 04:08 < mnemoc> btw, mnemosyne is just the 'generic' target, i have other 5 targets which extend mnemosyne... i should have to add 6 svn:externals :) 04:09 < mnemoc> i want t2-powered.net to add an index and documentation about adding external targets to trees 06:12 -!- sparc-kly_ [n=mubex@64.237.245.27] has joined #t2 06:25 -!- mipe [n=mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has joined #t2 06:29 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.241.16] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:52 < rxr> re 07:05 < mipe> hi rxr 07:43 < LMJ> good morning 08:08 < mipe> good morning LMJ 08:08 < LMJ> how are you mipe 08:08 < LMJ> ? 08:08 < mipe> good thanks, and you? 08:18 < LMJ> pretty fine ;) 10:05 -!- mipe_ [n=mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has joined #t2 10:15 -!- mipe [n=mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:27 -!- mipe_ [n=mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:28 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 10:28 < misl> hi folks 10:54 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178188221.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 10:54 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 wish you all a very happy 2006! | 2.1.1 TAGGED and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Give us a greeting and don't hesitate to ask any questions you have :-) 10:54 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Dec 31 17:55:11 2005] 10:54 [Users #t2] 10:54 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-9 ] [ karasz] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ valentin] 10:54 [ axion ] [ demian] [ LMJ ] [ mtr ] [ rxr_ ] [ zod ] 10:54 [ Baldzius] [ jsaw ] [ misl ] [ owl ] [ sparc-kly_] [ _Ragnar_] 10:54 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 18 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal] 10:54 -!- [freenode-info] if you need to send private messages, please register: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg 10:54 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004 10:55 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 26 secs 11:06 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178168142.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:17 < mtr> @!&4%9=&3?-}=l... 11:17 < mtr> moin 11:21 < mtr> why the he** do appear the pkgs/*.gem files now in src/invalid-files.lst ??? 11:36 < mtr> r14025: simplified binary package format selection and associated code <--- !!! 11:38 < mtr> hmmm, best would be to rebuild all binary pkg files using the flists, and switch to another SDECFG_PKGFILE_TYPE :( 12:24 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178143084.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 12:24 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 wish you all a very happy 2006! | 2.1.1 TAGGED and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Give us a greeting and don't hesitate to ask any questions you have :-) 12:24 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Dec 31 17:55:11 2005] 12:24 [Users #t2] 12:24 [@ChanServ] [ demian] [ mipe ] [ owl ] [ valentin] 12:24 [ axion ] [ jsaw ] [ misl ] [ rxr ] [ zod ] 12:24 [ Baldzius] [ karasz] [ mnemoc] [ rxr_ ] [ _Ragnar_] 12:24 [ CIA-9 ] [ LMJ ] [ mtr ] [ sparc-kly_] 12:24 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 19 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 18 normal] 12:24 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004 12:24 -!- [freenode-info] if you're at a conference and other people are having trouble connecting, please mention it to staff: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp 12:24 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 21 secs 12:28 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178188221.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 12:29 < mipe> rxr: you happen to have 2.1.1 or so iso? 12:29 < jsaw> re 12:29 < rxr> mipe: not for ppc 12:29 < rxr> for x86-64 yes 12:29 < rxr> but I shoudl rebuild some parts to make mnemoc entierly happy 12:29 < rxr> hi all 12:29 < jsaw> hi there 12:30 < mipe> rxr: how soon will you release x64 iso? 12:30 < rxr> next days 12:30 < rxr> though 12:30 < rxr> I think i resynced it already 12:30 < rxr> gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/ftp/incoming 12:30 < rxr> might have it 12:31 < rxr> but till release I'll update it slightly 12:31 < mipe> but works? no show stoppers from using it? 12:31 < LMJ> moin rxr 12:31 < jsaw> rxr: have you read the hotplug++ thing ? 12:32 < rxr> mipe: I had not enough free partitions on the subnotebook to test it - but it booteed 12:32 < rxr> jsaw: yes 12:32 < mipe> rxr:i'll download and test it :) 12:32 < rxr> hotplug++ shoudl never accidently be build dynamic 12:32 < rxr> how did it happen ? 12:32 < jsaw> rxr: did you see sth. like that before 12:32 < rxr> nope 12:32 < rxr> it always became static for me 12:32 < jsaw> rxr: don't ask me ... :( 12:33 < jsaw> strange things do happen... 12:34 < jsaw> the difference between my lab and home computer is enormous 12:35 < jsaw> even though the actual process frequency is lower, the machine at home is way faster 12:36 < jsaw> rxr: other question, do you have /dev/sg* devices (for cdrecord) ? 12:36 < rxr> depends 12:36 < jsaw> on what? 12:36 < rxr> oh - sh 12:36 < rxr> sg even 12:36 < rxr> well 12:36 < rxr> do you have sata os scsi ? 12:36 < jsaw> atapi cd/dvd-rw, but it doesn't show up as sg as it used to 12:37 < rxr> atapi as in ide ? 12:37 < jsaw> yes 12:37 < rxr> scsi emualtion is deprecated and defect in 2.6 12:37 < jsaw> hmmm 12:37 < rxr> just tell cdrecord to use /dev/cdrom /dev/hdcX and it will just work 12:37 < jsaw> damn 12:37 < rxr> and way better than ever 12:37 < rxr> with DMA and such 12:38 < rxr> btw. I exlusively use cdrecord dev=/dev/xyz no the pseudo id syntax 12:38 < rxr> despte the ugly texts cdrecord spits out it works just fine 12:38 < jsaw> I was just wondering about the cdrecord complaints... 12:38 < jsaw> I know it works. 12:38 < rxr> we should patch it away 12:38 < rxr> schilys cruft just stinkgs ... 12:38 < rxr> stinks ... 12:38 < jsaw> yep 12:39 < rxr> though he added some strange if you remove this the license is no longer GPL os so comment around is anti-Linux advertising ... 12:39 < jsaw> what abut dvd-r tools? any besides Schily crap 12:40 < rxr> yes we have a package 12:40 < rxr> but I think they can not burn cds 12:40 < rxr> I also never burned a dvd yet - thus I never tested those .. 12:40 < jsaw> ... 12:42 < jsaw> rxr: can you make a note, that the 2.2 final should automatically install the boot loader in case the user forgets on installation...? 12:42 < jsaw> or, better, ask the user to do so 12:44 < rxr> I think I already have this in my .plan 12:44 < rxr> you could add it to trac ,-) 12:59 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@p54AF9EA0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 13:04 < LMJ> t2 seels LCD now ? ;) 13:18 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178156001.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 13:18 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 wish you all a very happy 2006! | 2.1.1 TAGGED and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Give us a greeting and don't hesitate to ask any questions you have :-) 13:18 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Dec 31 17:55:11 2005] 13:18 [Users #t2] 13:18 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-9 ] [ karasz] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ valentin] 13:18 [ axion ] [ demian] [ LMJ ] [ mtr_ ] [ rxr_ ] [ zod ] 13:18 [ Baldzius] [ jsaw ] [ mipe ] [ owl ] [ sparc-kly_] [ _Ragnar_] 13:18 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 18 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal] 13:18 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004 13:18 -!- [freenode-info] if you're at a conference and other people are having trouble connecting, please mention it to staff: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp 13:19 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 25 secs 13:19 < axion> i've been reading some guides...none of which are very detailed, about doing optimized source builds from scratch (without t2). Besides CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS what else am I supposed to do? Aren't I to change the target triplet to i686, but when? Any good guides out there? 13:19 < karasz> hello again 13:19 < karasz> any news about libtool? 13:21 < karasz> jsaw, can i use that solution that you reverted for pcre? 13:21 < karasz> or it will work just for pcre? 13:25 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178143084.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:31 < jsaw> karasz: eh, yeah, try it 13:31 < karasz> but it wiil work just for pcre right? 13:31 < jsaw> wait a sec 13:32 < jsaw> karasz: currently I inserted: 13:32 < jsaw> makeopt="$makeopt LIBTOOL=/usr/bin/libtool" 13:33 < karasz> i mean i have a lot of stuff failin' for that matter... 13:33 < jsaw> into scripts/functions.in/init_vars_and_hooks 13:33 < karasz> ahm... so it will benefit other packages... 13:33 < jsaw> at line 979 13:33 < jsaw> works here (TM) 13:33 < karasz> :) 13:33 < karasz> i'll try 13:36 < karasz> hmmm i have flistdel="$flistdel |`echo $base | sed s,^/,,`/.*| at 979 13:36 < jsaw> axion: don't know. But there are corss build tools out there, do not remember exactly, but sth. like "crosstool" or so? Maybe you can read the source to get an idea 13:36 < jsaw> karasz: yes, right before that line (I only enable it after stage 1) 13:37 < jsaw> karasz: I mean, insert it at this line 13:37 < karasz> got it 13:37 < axion> ok thanks 13:40 < karasz> it works here too(TM) 13:41 < jsaw> :) 13:41 < karasz> i am curious thou if all cfg will build.... 13:42 < jsaw> hmmm 13:42 < jsaw> curious too 13:42 < jsaw> ;) 13:42 < karasz> not ot worry i will post a regression... 13:44 < mipe> there was some posts on gcc bug page, that libtool was "broken" in gcc since 4.0 in a away that the libtool used generated wrong data... (some libstdc++.la brokenness) 13:44 < mipe> libtool shipped in gcc that is 13:45 < mipe> and since i only have seen lib brokenness on libstdc++, not in any other lib... 13:46 < jsaw> that's a good hint 14:08 -!- YeT2 [i=daemon@border.prologistik.com] has joined #t2 14:09 -!- YeT2 [i=daemon@border.prologistik.com] has left #t2 [] 14:12 -!- YeT2 [i=daemon@border.prologistik.com] has joined #T2 14:16 -!- YeT2 [i=daemon@border.prologistik.com] has left #t2 [] 14:16 -!- YeT2 [i=daemon@border.prologistik.com] has joined #T2 14:16 -!- YeT2 [i=daemon@border.prologistik.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:17 -!- nzg [n=tschmidt@p54AFF038.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 14:18 -!- YeT2 [i=daemon@border.prologistik.com] has joined #T2 14:18 -!- YeT2 [i=daemon@border.prologistik.com] has left #T2 [] 14:19 -!- YeT2 [i=daemon@border.prologistik.com] has joined #t2 14:19 < YeT2> hi 14:22 < rxr_> hi 14:24 < YeT2> rxr_ : on a 2.2.0-epsilon minimal system gcc ist with dietlibc ... right ? 14:26 -!- You're now known as rxr 14:27 < karasz> hmmm not lookin' very good :( 14:27 < rxr> YeT2: _ 14:27 < rxr> ? even 14:29 < YeT2> rxr: ... no not really ... was just trying to find entry :) 14:29 < rxr> what is your question? 14:29 < rxr> on a normal build gcc is not linked or so with dietlibc - all is normal 14:29 < rxr> only some stuff is built with dietlibc, those that is used on the inird ... 14:29 < rxr> modutils and such 14:30 < rxr> you can build single files using dietlibc adding diet before the normal gcc execution 14:30 < rxr> diet gcc hello.c 14:30 < rxr> axion: hi 14:30 < rxr> axion: what is your i686 question about ? 14:33 < karasz> arts fail to build... anyone cares to take a look at http://karasz.pastebin.ca/35526 14:36 < YeT2> rxr : when i ran a build in a 2.2.0-epsilon minimal i had a hang in stage1 with pdksh ! and a core dump ... build base is trunk from thursday last week (beffore BIG chage of mnemoc regarding sysfiles) 14:36 < rxr> YeT2: yes pdksh is linked with dietlibc 14:37 < rxr> because it is the /bin/sh used on the initrd 14:37 < rxr> YeT2: do you build on the installed epsilon minimal? 14:37 < rxr> or on some other linux system ? 14:38 < axion> rxr: i was just wondering if i had to do anything besides set CFLAGS to do an optimized build without t2 14:38 < axion> rxr: i noticed how Gentoo changes the target triplet from i386 to i686 in a CHOST env var 14:38 < YeT2> rxr: ok ... now I'm crosschecking the same build on a gentoo-based system ... just to check if the base system(what i assume) is the troupbel maker) 14:39 < jsaw> karasz: seen that also, but didn't care too much... 14:39 < YeT2> rxr: will give you feedback when I am over this point .. 14:39 < rxr> axion: axion the target trippled is used by some packages (openssl, glibc, ...) to select inline assembly 14:39 < rxr> but that is rate 14:39 < rxr> rare 14:39 < rxr> usual "CFLAGS" are enough 14:39 < rxr> though many Makefiles do not honor CFLAGS and / or do additional stuff 14:40 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@p54BECD6E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 14:40 < rxr> that is why we did never bother to rely on them but use a generic transformation mechanism thru wrappers to inject wat we want automatically 14:40 < karasz> http://www.x5.ro/regression/minimal/regressions.html <- minimal +xorg+basic descktop 14:40 < morfoh> moin moin 14:40 < karasz> jsaw, no arts->no kde 14:40 < axion> i see 14:41 < YeT2> bye 14:41 < karasz> moin morfoh 14:41 -!- YeT2 [i=daemon@border.prologistik.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:41 < morfoh> hey karasz :) 14:42 < karasz> yo! morfoh ;) 14:43 < rxr> karasz: hm - your arts error loogs strange 14:43 < rxr> karasz: I fix the gcc package to cure the libstdc++.la issue in some minutes++ 14:43 < karasz> if you want to see the whole you can check the regression 14:43 < rxr> but that needs some minutes to get one of my boxes lightly loaded enough to do that 14:44 < rxr> /usr/lib64/gcc/powerpc64-t2-linux-gnu/4.0.2/../../../../powerpc64-t2-linux-gnu/b 14:44 < rxr> in/ld: ../../../../dist/lib/libxpt.a(xpt_arena.o)(.text+0x208): unresolvable R_P 14:44 < rxr> PC64_REL24 relocation against symbol `memcpy@@GLIBC_2.3' 14:44 < rxr> /usr/lib64/gcc/powerpc64-t2-linux-gnu/4.0.2/../../../../powerpc64-t2-linux-gnu/b 14:44 < rxr> in/ld: final link failed: Nonrepresentable section on output 14:44 < rxr> hm 14:44 < rxr> ppc64 firefox 14:44 < jsaw> not only ppc64 14:45 < jsaw> same error on athlon64, rxr 14:45 < rxr> but ? 14:45 < mipe> i think i saw that on gcc bug tracking... 14:45 < rxr> jsaw: built in the past 14:45 < rxr> but maybe I have not yet tried firefox 1.5 14:45 < rxr> the former built 14:46 < karasz> rxr as ususal if yopu need number crunchin' i can give access to a box with trunk:HEAD ;) 14:46 < karasz> but i know you don't want that ;) 14:47 < rxr> karasz: it is I have to get some gui browser onto the new ppc64 box to be more productive again 14:47 < rxr> otherwise enough cpu cycles around 14:48 < karasz> hmm and you try to get ff 1.5 workin'? 14:48 < rxr> kde needs more stuff 14:48 < rxr> I just want anything right now 14:48 < rxr> usually I'm on kde 14:49 < rxr> but all the work here and there took enough time to not let me Emerge enough for the new system so far 14:50 < karasz> rxr http://www.muhri.net/skipstone/ tried this one? 14:51 < rxr> karasz: whats that lightweight www gui 14:51 < rxr> based on what engine ? 14:51 < karasz> gtk + gecko 14:51 < karasz> `SkipStone is a Gtk+ Web Browser that embeds Mozilla's rendering component Gecko. It aims to be light and fast with few dependencies.` 14:51 < rxr> well when I emerged mozilla for gecko I need no skipstone anymore ... 14:52 < rxr> there are also galeon and epiphany also 14:52 < rxr> though galeon is declared dead 14:53 < axion> Kazehakase is nice 14:53 < morfoh> there is also the dillo browser which is quite small too 14:53 < rxr> axion: also a browser ? 14:53 < axion> yes 14:53 < rxr> based on ? 14:53 < axion> http://kazehakase.sourceforge.jp/screenshots/ss20040828.png 14:54 < axion> oh crap...moz 14:54 < axion> i forgot 14:54 < axion> what about dillo if you need one quick? 14:54 < axion> or links -g 14:56 < rxr> jsaw: mozilla builds longer on ppc64 14:56 < rxr> we now in 20 minutes ++ if it goes thru 14:56 < axion> i dont think dillo renders frames, so links -g would be better i think 14:57 < rxr> axion: dillo also has no javascript IIRC 14:57 < rxr> well links -g on ppc64 has some strange colors 14:57 < rxr> most probably byte order ... 14:57 < axion> hmm 14:57 < rxr> but well - I need something that displays the sides in reasonable quality ... :-( 14:57 < rxr> think I have that on my new workstation in 20 minutes ... 14:57 < rxr> I can get some lunch in the meantime 14:58 < rxr> and then I also have to fix firefox for 64bit CPUs then ... 14:58 < rxr> mnemoc: subversion 1.3.0 is out 14:59 < rxr> Baldzius: amule 2.1.0 if you want to test that update 15:01 < Baldzius> rxr: thanks , i know :) 15:01 < rxr> jsaw: did mozilla fail for you as well ? 15:02 < rxr> Baldzius: just scrolled voer freshmeat ... 15:02 < jsaw> rxr: didn't yet try. Still struggling to get a minimal installed. 15:03 < Baldzius> yeah, i am waiting for 17.00 till then i have to pay for downloaded MB's :( 15:04 < Baldzius> i'll test amule, abiword and more i have here 15:25 -!- YeT2 [i=daemon@border.prologistik.com] has joined #T2 15:27 -!- madtux [i=miguel@pf0.hostarica.com] has joined #t2 15:28 < karasz> o_O ???? 15:28 < karasz> Google `We're sorry... 15:28 < karasz> ... but we can't process your request right now. A computer virus or spyware application is sending us automated requests, and it appears that your computer or network has been infected. ` 15:29 < jsaw> karasz: hehe 15:29 < rxr> read about that 15:29 < rxr> some sort of ip grabber protection 15:30 < jsaw> see e.g. http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/67842 15:32 < Baldzius> can i add hook in .desc ? or should i create .conf for that? 15:33 < Baldzius> 1 choise looks more "clean" 15:33 < rxr> you can 15:33 < rxr> O tag 15:33 < morfoh> Baldzius: you have to do it in a .conf file 15:33 < Baldzius> so O tag or .conf? :) 15:33 < rxr> [O] hook_add postmake 5 "echo hello world" 15:33 < rxr> .desc 15:33 < rxr> but only use for tiny stuff 15:34 < rxr> not abute 15:34 < rxr> abuse 15:34 < rxr> that is not implant entire scripts there ,-) 15:34 < Baldzius> it's simple hood, just sed one line 15:34 < rxr> what do you actually sed ? 15:34 < Baldzius> makefile 15:34 < rxr> can it not be done with setting a variable ? 15:37 < rxr> aside overwriting a variable, var_append makeopt var=val you can do such stuff in the cOnf tag ... 15:38 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178191100.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 15:38 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 wish you all a very happy 2006! | 2.1.1 TAGGED and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Give us a greeting and don't hesitate to ask any questions you have :-) 15:38 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Dec 31 17:55:11 2005] 15:38 [Users #t2] 15:38 [@ChanServ] [ demian] [ madtux] [ mtr_] [ rxr_ ] [ zod ] 15:38 [ axion ] [ jsaw ] [ mipe ] [ nzg ] [ sparc-kly_] [ _Ragnar_] 15:38 [ Baldzius] [ karasz] [ mnemoc] [ owl ] [ valentin ] 15:38 [ CIA-9 ] [ LMJ ] [ morfoh] [ rxr ] [ YeT2 ] 15:38 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 22 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 21 normal] 15:38 -!- [freenode-info] if you need to send private messages, please register: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg 15:38 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004 15:39 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 27 secs 15:40 < Baldzius> rxr_ did you see? :) 15:44 < rxr_> 15:34 < rxr> can it not be done with setting a variable ? 15:44 < rxr_> 15:37 < rxr> aside overwriting a variable, var_append makeopt var=val you can do such stuff in the cOnf tag ... 15:47 < mnemoc> moin! 15:47 < rxr_> moin mnemoc ! 15:48 < rxr_> mnemoc: now udhcpd on my router ... 15:50 < morfoh> moin mnemoc 15:50 < mnemoc> moin rxr_ morfoh :) 15:51 < mnemoc> rxr_: soon bcron :p 15:53 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178156001.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:53 -!- You're now known as rxr 15:53 [Users #t2] 15:53 [@ChanServ] [ demian] [ madtux] [ mtr_] [ sparc-kly_] [ _Ragnar_] 15:53 [ axion ] [ jsaw ] [ mipe ] [ nzg ] [ valentin ] 15:53 [ Baldzius] [ karasz] [ mnemoc] [ owl ] [ YeT2 ] 15:53 [ CIA-9 ] [ LMJ ] [ morfoh] [ rxr ] [ zod ] 15:53 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 21 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 20 normal] 16:00 < mnemoc> Error logs from minimal-2.2.0-alpha-x86-pentium-mmx-generic: 16:00 < mnemoc> [5] audio/xmms [5] graphic/ghostscript [5] multimedia/mplayer 16:00 < mnemoc> 516 builds total, 513 completed fine, 3 with errors. 16:00 < mnemoc> ^--- minimal+basic_desktop 16:00 < mnemoc> why xmms?? 16:00 < rxr> mnemoc: no idea 16:00 < rxr> stip it 16:00 < rxr> and the old gtk+12 stuff if present as well 16:01 < mnemoc> no gtk+12 stuff there 16:03 < rxr> wonderful 16:03 < rxr> why the hell so I only have to endure all the crap code out there 16:03 < rxr> mozilla tried to assemble x86 assemblly on ppx64 16:03 < rxr> because they have no ppc64 conditional in their f*cking makefiles 16:03 < rxr> and fall back to x86 ... 16:03 < mnemoc> :) 16:04 < rxr> my my my 16:04 < rxr> I really start a ExactOS with just reviewed line by line code ... 16:05 < mnemoc> code a few dynamic loaders for dietlibc first ,-) 16:05 < rxr> har har 16:06 < rxr> I should have emerged kdebase ... 16:06 < rxr> less crappy code lingering in it ... 16:06 < rxr> guess it will be next when I have mozilla up and gcc libstdc++.la fixed 16:07 -!- mipe [n=mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has quit ["leaving"] 16:07 < mnemoc> desktop-2.1/ppc? 16:07 < rxr> you can scratch this 16:07 < mnemoc> uhm 16:08 < mnemoc> i prefer not to scratch that :) 16:08 < rxr> I can provide a one post 2.1.1 16:08 < rxr> mnemoc: I can not compile gcc 3.4 here ... 16:08 < mnemoc> oh 16:08 < rxr> I started to tinker together a old user-land but I need to download an old iso then first 16:11 < rxr> mnemoc: I continue to get 2.1 built on my ppc box here - when it is ready I'll built isos 16:11 < rxr> but it may take up to a week 16:11 < rxr> just let's get 2.1.1 out first 16:11 < rxr> I provide a new x86-64 iso tomorrow I hope 16:11 < mnemoc> "lychee punch"? "drunk peter"? ..? 16:12 < rxr> the first sound good 16:12 < rxr> I looked into gcc bugzilla but found nothing about such miscompilation with ppc 16:14 < mnemoc> rxr: can you tarball the tag? 16:14 < rxr> mnemoc: lets do a 2.1.2 as soon as I have ppc ISOs with full g5 support 16:14 < rxr> that would be in 1-2 weeks 16:14 < rxr> release quickly release often is good (tm) 16:14 < rxr> mnemoc: ack 16:15 < mnemoc> the bottleneck is the ISO building process 16:16 < rxr> I think we do not need a ISO for each arch when we release often 16:16 < rxr> if 2.1.2 has mostly ppc changes then we mostly do ppc ISOs ... 16:16 < mnemoc> i know but i take 4 days on building and uploading a desktop 16:17 < rxr> mnemoc: if I throw an athlon 2500+ into the uni as gsmp., would you use it to build the official ISOs ? 16:18 < mnemoc> sure 16:19 < rxr> ok 16:19 < rxr> xen or vserver for virtual partitions ? 16:30 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178139106.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 16:30 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.1 TAGGED and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Give us a greeting and don't hesitate to ask any questions you have :-) 16:30 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Mon Jan 2 15:21:42 2006] 16:30 [Users #t2] 16:30 [@ChanServ] [ demian] [ madtux] [ nzg ] [ valentin] 16:30 [ axion ] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ owl ] [ YeT2 ] 16:30 [ Baldzius] [ karasz] [ morfoh] [ rxr ] [ zod ] 16:30 [ CIA-9 ] [ LMJ ] [ mtr_ ] [ sparc-kly_] [ _Ragnar_] 16:30 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 20 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 19 normal] 16:30 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004 16:30 < karasz> then xmms is stupid? 16:30 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 20 secs 16:31 < mnemoc> # grep glib-config build/ref-2.1-stable-x86-pentium4-generic/var/adm/flists/* 16:31 < mnemoc> build/ref-2.1-stable-x86-pentium4-generic/var/adm/flists/glib12:glib12: opt/gnome/bin/glib-config 16:31 < mnemoc> build/ref-2.1-stable-x86-pentium4-generic/var/adm/flists/glib12:glib12: opt/gnome/man/man1/glib-config.1 16:31 < karasz> or someone should show it the way.... 16:31 < mnemoc> glib12 is not the only package needed to get a gtk+12 env 16:32 < karasz> i have only /opt/gnome2/bin/ 16:32 < mnemoc> you don't have glib12 package 16:33 < karasz> right, i have only glib 16:33 < mnemoc> O -----5---- 113.000 gnome14 glib12 1.2.10 / extra/development AUTOMAKE-QUIRK AUTOMAKE-QUIRK 0 16:33 < rxr> two times automake-quirk ? 16:34 < mnemoc> *G* 16:34 < mnemoc> no clue why 16:35 < karasz> mnemoc, i get it, minimal +xorg +basic desktop shouldn't have xmms at all, because lackin' dependencies... 16:35 < rxr> because it is not a minimal desktop - with old junk lime xmms included ... 16:35 < rxr> of course we could add it's deps 16:36 < rxr> but having such and imprefect choice of an music player in minimal-desktop is not that good in the first place 16:37 < mnemoc> package/gnome14/glib12/glib12.desc:26:[F] AUTOMAKE-QUIRK <--- why you have it duplicated? 16:37 < mnemoc> .oO 16:37 < rxr> I only have one 16:38 < rxr> I only have one 16:39 < karasz> so for music player in minimal desktop? 16:39 < karasz> mplayer? 16:39 < rxr> at least not such an rotting one 16:39 < rxr> xmms2 or none or whatever 16:39 < rxr> mnemoc: ? 16:40 < karasz> hmm... let's say i can compile minimal+xorg+desktop and install it 16:41 < karasz> what if i need other packages? (and i will i am sure) 16:41 < karasz> emerge? 16:41 < rxr> jep 16:41 < mnemoc> and pkgsel 16:41 < mnemoc> i packaged xmms2 but i haven't tried it 16:41 < karasz> pkgsel after install? 16:41 < mnemoc> before 16:42 < rxr> well I would just disable the template ... 16:42 < karasz> that means that i have to think before... 16:42 < rxr> that is select generic and emerge ... 16:42 < rxr> karasz: well - install, select generic, emerge what you need 16:42 < rxr> btw mozilla on ppc64 is crashing ... 16:42 < rxr> early on with a segfault ... 16:43 < karasz> i really want to know the difference between emerge and pkgsel ... 16:43 < mnemoc> emerge, builds and install locally 16:43 < karasz> i know that mnemoc 16:43 < mnemoc> pkgsel add packages to build-target schedule 16:44 < mnemoc> so you get them on the final iso 16:44 < karasz> i am more concerned of the enviroment diferences between them... 16:44 < karasz> iirc build builds in other enviroment that emerge 16:44 < mnemoc> emerge is too greedy for me, i prefer to be explicit 16:45 < mnemoc> emerge builds on host, build-target on sandbox 16:45 < karasz> that's right 16:45 < karasz> and usualy host<>sandbox... 16:45 < rxr> karasz: technically Emerge does use the same backend, all builds start Build-Pkg in the background that does the job 16:45 < karasz> but if i install my build than will be host=previous sandbox? 16:46 < mnemoc> yes 16:46 < karasz> good 16:46 < karasz> than my_wannabe_host=my_old_sandbox 16:46 < mnemoc> flistdel may do a difference 16:47 < mnemoc> same files installed by `make install` are filtered out of package file list, then those files are not packages, and then not installed 16:48 < mnemoc> packaged* 16:50 < mnemoc> # ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg minimal 16:50 < mnemoc> Error logs from minimal-2.2.0-alpha-x86-pentium-mmx-generic: 16:50 < mnemoc> [5] graphic/ghostscript 16:50 < mnemoc> 515 builds total, 514 completed fine, 1 with errors. 16:51 * mnemoc wonders why arts built for me and failed for you, and ghostscript fails for me and built for you 16:51 < karasz> you as in me mnemoc ? 16:51 < mnemoc> yes 16:51 < mnemoc> you = karasz 16:52 < karasz> ghostscript failed here also... 16:52 < karasz> i am on x86-64.... 16:52 < mnemoc> that makes more sense 16:53 < karasz> who told you that ghost built here? 16:53 < rxr> mnemoc: even a hand-built gcc does include sich f*cked up pathes in the libstdc++.la 16:53 < rxr> just reviewed 16:53 < rxr> I try to weak gcc's libtool copy not to do that 16:53 < mnemoc> [12:24:48] mnemoc, http://www.x5.ro/regression/minimal/regressions.html ;) 16:54 < karasz> say pending, not OK 16:54 < mnemoc> :) 16:54 < rxr> otherwise I hack the crap away bruth force, e.g. by running sed over what libtool throws on us ... 16:54 < mnemoc> i only saw error list 16:54 < rxr> those people should learn to code before they throw such a crap into the world ... 16:54 < mnemoc> rxr: there is a .la auto-fixing code on scripts/ 16:54 < mnemoc> ack, libtool is harmful crap 16:55 < rxr> you mean the moving of /lib -> usr/lib ? 16:55 < rxr> libtool and auto* 16:55 < rxr> worst stuff the GNU consortium brought to us 16:55 < mnemoc> yes, but other fixing can be done on the same place 16:55 < rxr> hehe 16:56 < mnemoc> :) 16:56 < rxr> my name is t2 and I can auto-fix most crap you throw on me ... 16:56 * rxr patenting auto-crap-code-fixup (tm) (r) and become rich 16:57 < Baldzius> :)))) 16:57 < mnemoc> i doubt that can make you rich :) 16:58 < rxr> wait unil M$ hears about that ... 16:58 < rxr> they will throw $$$$$ on me ... 16:58 < mnemoc> *headache* 16:58 < mnemoc> they will kill you 16:58 < rxr> what for? 16:59 < mnemoc> fixing autocrap you would make opensource stronger :) 16:59 < rxr> claiming prior art since they allow random segfault pointers in certain places of recent windozes due to otherwise seg-faulting Office.exe's ? 17:01 < mnemoc> ms quality 17:01 < mnemoc> *headache* 17:01 < rxr> why ship an office update when you can quirk here and there in your OS ,-) 17:02 < rxr> mnemoc: real headache or just headache reading about M$ practise ? 17:02 < mnemoc> real :( 17:02 < rxr> bummer 17:02 < mnemoc> M$ practise just make me sad 17:02 < rxr> due to hot sunshine ? 17:02 < CIA-9> aldas * r14406 /trunk/package/gnome2/abiword/abiword.desc: * updated abiword (2.4.1 -> 2.4.2) 17:03 < mnemoc> no, it's not too hot today 17:04 < mnemoc> just my body taking revange for bad eating and lack of sleep 17:05 < rxr> mnemoc: new eve family meeting was not good eat ? 17:07 < mnemoc> too much people to eat 17:07 < rxr> peope to eat ? 17:07 < mnemoc> nah, people makes me unable to eat 17:07 < rxr> hehehe - ah ok 17:07 < mnemoc> more than 4-6 aditional people is too much for me 17:08 < karasz> rxr you might want to take a look at sane-backends.desc 17:08 < karasz> `This package contains the low-lever 17:08 < karasz> [T] scanner driver` 17:09 < mnemoc> ? 17:09 < karasz> i guess that should be low-level... 17:09 < mnemoc> :) 17:10 < karasz> what? mnemoc you said once that nothing is too small.... 17:10 < CIA-9> amery * r14407 /trunk/package/graphic/sane-backends/sane-backends.desc: * fixed typo on sane-backends' description 17:10 < mnemoc> nothing is too small 17:10 < rxr> heh 17:11 < karasz> so i will specialize in microscopical ... :D 17:11 < rxr> there is another typo in there 17:11 < rxr> I fix and polish 17:11 < mnemoc> better give write access to karasz so he can fix them :p 17:12 < karasz> parpot? 17:12 < rxr> ack 17:12 < mnemoc> parpot? 17:13 < karasz> PARPOT and USB scanner 17:13 < CIA-9> rene * r14408 /trunk/package/graphic/sane-backends/sane-backends.desc: 17:13 < CIA-9> * fixed another typo in sane-backends, polished the text and 17:13 < CIA-9> updated the URL 17:16 < CIA-9> rene * r14409 /trunk/package/graphic/sane-frontends/sane-frontends.desc: * fixed sane-frontends accordingly 17:27 < karasz> mnemoc, http://www.x5.ro/regression/minimal/regressions.html 17:27 < jsaw> rxr: may I change extend_initrd to do real extraction? 17:27 < rxr> jsaw: yes 17:27 < rxr> I already thought about this ... 17:28 < rxr> as you see I have a "space optimization comment there already IIRC" 17:28 < jsaw> the problem with append is, that cpio does not overwrite previously added stuff 17:28 < rxr> yes 17:28 < rxr> though I think the kernel extractor does not care 17:28 < jsaw> ah, ok 17:28 < jsaw> anyway... 17:28 < rxr> but for space optimization and to make the resulting cpio image more easy to use I agree 17:29 < jsaw> is it okay to extract it to "$initrd.dir" ? 17:29 < rxr> I also saw the warning file not newer than previously extracted not extrating or so warning when cpio is used to extract it e.g. for debugging ... 17:29 < jsaw> or should I use /tmp/whatever? 17:29 < rxr> jsaw: well - just .dir I would say 17:29 < jsaw> k 17:30 < CIA-9> aldas * r14410 /trunk/package/network/amule/amule.desc: * updated amule (2.0.3 -> 2.1.0) 17:30 < rxr> my my my 17:31 < rxr> the final libstdc++ command line for linking looks soo crappyy ... 17:31 < rxr> ... -lm -lm -lm -lm -lgcc -lc -lgcc -lm -lm -lgcc -lc -lgcc -lm -lm -lm -lm -lm -lm -lm -lgcc -lc -lgcc -lm -lm -lgcc -lc -lgcc -lm -lgcc -lc -lgcc -lm -lm -lm -lm -lm -lgcc -lc -lgcc -lm -lm -lgcc -lc -lgcc -lm -lgcc -lc -lgcc -lm -lgcc -lc -lgcc -lm /usr/lib64/../lib/.libs/libstdc++.so -lm -lm -lm -lm -lgcc -lc -lgcc -lm -lm -lgcc -lc -lgcc -lm -lgcc -lc -lgcc -lm -lgcc -lc -lgcc -lm ... 17:31 < mnemoc> :D 17:31 < _Ragnar_> *lol* 17:31 < rxr> and he path is wrong additionally ... 17:31 < _Ragnar_> fixit;) 17:35 < rxr> it is libtool crap 17:35 < rxr> I'll have fun fixing that ... 17:37 -!- YeT2 [i=daemon@border.prologistik.com] has left #T2 [] 17:38 < karasz> libtool: link: libtool library `sudo_noexec.la' must begin with `lib' 17:38 < mnemoc> hahha 17:38 < mnemoc> package? 17:38 < karasz> sudo 17:39 < karasz> you find it in my regression 17:39 < karasz> http://www.x5.ro/regression/minimal/regressions.html 17:57 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178164078.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 17:57 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.1 TAGGED and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Give us a greeting and don't hesitate to ask any questions you have :-) 17:57 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Mon Jan 2 15:21:42 2006] 17:57 [Users #t2] 17:57 [@ChanServ] [ demian] [ madtux] [ nzg ] [ sparc-kly_] 17:57 [ axion ] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ owl ] [ valentin ] 17:57 [ Baldzius] [ karasz] [ morfoh] [ rxr ] [ zod ] 17:57 [ CIA-9 ] [ LMJ ] [ mtr_ ] [ rxr_] [ _Ragnar_ ] 17:57 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 20 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 19 normal] 17:57 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004 17:57 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 26 secs 18:03 < karasz> mnemoc, i am a little list here 18:03 < rxr_> hm 18:03 < rxr_> damn w-lan router I use beside the geode does reconnect strangely ... 18:03 < karasz> i don't see the kde packages, either failed or pending... 18:03 < rxr_> guess I need to get a t2wrtg sooner than later ... 18:04 < rxr_> could even use the geode for s.th. else if irssi is on the router itself ... ,-) 18:05 < rxr_> cp -a libstdc++-v3/config/cpu/i{4,3}86/atomicity.h 18:05 < rxr_> aha - redhat way to build a i386 version, let it include 486 assembly ... 18:06 < rxr_> guess they do not want their stuff run on old i386 silicon then ... ,-) 18:08 < CIA-9> aldas * r14411 /trunk/package/base/dump/dump.desc: * updated dump (0.4b40 -> 0.4b41) 18:09 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178139106.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:10 -!- mipe [n=mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has joined #t2 18:10 < mipe> so 2.1.1 is running 18:10 < mipe> btw. theres no gasgui only the minimal version on x64 iso 18:10 < mipe> and minimal version doesnt check disk changes 18:11 < rxr_> ah yes 18:11 < rxr_> need to rebuild since I fixed that post build on trunk first ... 18:11 -!- You're now known as rxr 18:13 -!- sparc-kly__ [n=mubex@64.237.244.104] has joined #t2 18:14 < rxr> i really wonder why the gcc people use libtool at all 18:14 < rxr> it is totally broken for cross builds inside gcc ... 18:14 < rxr> even look into host systems .la of libraries build inside gcc and such .. 18:15 < rxr> unfortunatly dropping a latest libtool into the build does not really cure that 18:15 < _Ragnar_> O_O 18:15 < mipe> so the problem was/is on gcc libtool? 18:16 < rxr> yes 18:16 < rxr> look into your libstdc++.la files 18:16 < rxr> the depend line is full of junk ... 18:16 < rxr> 1000+ chars of repeated pure harmful noise 18:17 < mipe> yep, i tryed a patch i found on gcc bug tracking page but that didnt work either... 18:17 < rxr> mipe: any link to that page ? 18:17 < rxr> I have not found any 18:17 < mipe> rxr: i'll look if find it again, i think i bookmarked it... 18:22 < mipe> rxr:http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=5291 18:23 < mipe> rxr: was actually a patch to get rid of -L references from libstdc++.la from build dir 18:24 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178173117.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 18:24 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.1 TAGGED and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Give us a greeting and don't hesitate to ask any questions you have :-) 18:24 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Mon Jan 2 15:21:42 2006] 18:24 [Users #t2] 18:24 [@ChanServ] [ demian] [ madtux ] [ mtr_] [ rxr_ ] [ zod ] 18:24 [ axion ] [ jsaw ] [ mipe|away] [ nzg ] [ sparc-kly_ ] [ _Ragnar_] 18:24 [ Baldzius] [ karasz] [ mnemoc ] [ owl ] [ sparc-kly__] 18:24 [ CIA-9 ] [ LMJ ] [ morfoh ] [ rxr ] [ valentin ] 18:24 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 22 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 21 normal] 18:24 -!- [freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 18:24 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004 18:24 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 26 secs 18:24 < mipe|away> rxr:http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=5291 18:24 < mipe|away> rxr: was actually a patch to get rid of -L references from libstdc++.la from build dir 18:25 < mipe|away> now, i'm really away for bit 18:29 -!- sparc-kly_ [n=mubex@64.237.245.27] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:32 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178164078.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 18:34 < mnemoc> re 18:34 < CIA-9> aldas * r14412 /trunk/package/network/lftp/lftp.desc: * updated lftp (3.3.5 -> 3.4.0) 18:36 < mnemoc> rxr_: can i remove generic x86? glibc and linux26 don't build for it 18:40 -!- mipe|away is now known as mipe 18:43 < rxr_> mnemoc: hehe 18:43 < rxr_> mnemoc: no - I rather would like to fix it some day 18:43 < rxr_> mnemoc: I guess you mean trunk where generic fails on glibc due to thread local storage stuff ? 18:43 < mnemoc> yes 18:44 < mnemoc> or change the default value to a safe one 18:44 < rxr_> mnemoc: ok 18:44 < mnemoc> 386? pmmx? 18:44 < rxr_> 486 should build 18:44 < rxr_> 386 shoudl fail as generic does, no ? 18:44 < mnemoc> not sure, but iirc 386 passed 18:44 < rxr_> hm - 386 should fail as generic does 18:44 < rxr_> since generic mostly means 386 ... 18:45 < mnemoc> mostly :) 18:45 < mnemoc> so, i486? 18:45 < rxr_> ack 18:45 -!- You're now known as rxr 18:47 < CIA-9> amery * r14413 /trunk/architecture/x86/config.in: * changed default x86 to i486, because generic makes some troubles 18:50 < karasz> mnemoc, i am in a dead end, i could use a foot in my backside... 18:52 < mnemoc> o.o 18:52 < rxr> ouhm 18:53 < rxr> in gcc libtool is even generated from ltconfig 18:53 < mnemoc> :) 18:53 < rxr> this generated crap by crappy generators gets on my nerves majorly ... 18:54 < rxr> mnemoc: mind if I rm -rf the Makefile.* of gcc and throw an ExactBuild makefile set over it ? 18:54 < mnemoc> :) 18:54 < karasz> mnemoc, they sai that every kick in your backside also means a step forward... 18:55 < rxr> can indent indent shellcode ? 18:55 < mnemoc> uhm? 18:55 < rxr> Build-Target is wrongly indented 18:56 < mnemoc> but people change indentation _only_ on that commit 18:56 < mnemoc> please* 18:56 < rxr> hm? 18:56 < rxr> I know, indentation not mixed with other commits, of course 18:56 < mnemoc> but please change indentation _only_ on that commit 18:57 < mnemoc> yes, that :) 18:57 < rxr> just that I wonder wher the parallel cluster hackery actually ends ... 18:57 < mnemoc> first reindent all, then remove cluster hackery 18:57 < mnemoc> or on the other way :) 18:58 < mnemoc> jsaw: 1-perl still broken :( 18:59 < LMJ> good evening guys 18:59 < mnemoc> missing -lpthreads for miniperl now 18:59 < mnemoc> hi LMJ 18:59 < rxr> welcome LMJ 18:59 < LMJ> how are you guys ? 19:00 < LMJ> i'm curious to know if someone tested QOS someday ? 19:00 < LMJ> to get feedback 19:00 < mnemoc> QOS where? 19:01 < rxr> # ./scripts/Build-Target -cfg embedded 19:01 < rxr> ./scripts/Build-Target: line 171: syntax error near unexpected token `}' 19:01 < rxr> ./scripts/Build-Target: line 171: `}' 19:01 < rxr> well that was the wrong chunk 19:01 < mnemoc> :) 19:01 < rxr> but Build-Target gets quite nice with the fat Cluster code stripped ... 19:01 < LMJ> Quality Of Service for network, bandwith management with priority 19:02 < mnemoc> i though you had added QoS to rocknet :) 19:02 < rxr> depends - /me did some basic bandwdith management once 19:04 < rxr> hm 19:05 < rxr> I should open kate on the file 19:05 < rxr> this kde editor has quite nice folding 19:05 < LMJ> and it worked rxr ? 19:05 * rxr wonders if would be able to parse this extreme piece of shell code at all ... 19:08 < rxr> LMJ: this basic iproute2 based parameters yes 19:08 < rxr> what do you want to do ? 19:11 < CIA-9> rene * r14414 /trunk/scripts/ (Build-Target config.hlp config.in): * removed remaining chunks of obsolete, rotting cluster code 19:16 < CIA-9> rene * r14415 /trunk/scripts/Build-Target: 19:16 < CIA-9> * minimal set of changes to fix indention and thus readability of 19:16 < CIA-9> the Build-Target pkgloop() function 19:17 * rxr shortly off hunting for dinner - cu soon 19:27 < karasz> re 19:41 < karasz> ufff.... 19:46 < rxr> re 19:52 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178132218.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 19:52 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.1 TAGGED and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Give us a greeting and don't hesitate to ask any questions you have :-) 19:52 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Mon Jan 2 15:21:42 2006] 19:52 [Users #t2] 19:52 [@ChanServ] [ demian] [ madtux] [ mtr_] [ rxr_ ] [ _Ragnar_] 19:52 [ axion ] [ jsaw ] [ mipe ] [ nzg ] [ sparc-kly__] 19:52 [ Baldzius] [ karasz] [ mnemoc] [ owl ] [ valentin ] 19:52 [ CIA-9 ] [ LMJ ] [ morfoh] [ rxr ] [ zod ] 19:52 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 21 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 20 normal] 19:52 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004 19:52 -!- [freenode-info] if you need to send private messages, please register: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg 19:53 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 25 secs 19:54 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 19:54 < rxr_> hm 19:54 < rxr_> this reconnects due to linksys hickup are a bit annoying 19:55 < misl> hi folks 19:56 < karasz> mnemoc, libtool: link: warning: `/usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/4.0.2//libstdc++.la' seems to be moved 19:57 < karasz> it is outside the sandbox isn't it? 19:57 < mnemoc> atage? 19:57 < mnemoc> stage* 19:57 < karasz> shouldn't it searched inside the sandbox? 19:57 < karasz> 5 19:57 < mnemoc> it is inside the sandbox 19:58 < karasz> then i must miss the definition of sandbox :( 19:58 < karasz> i thought that sandbox is inside /usr/src/t2..... 19:58 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178173117.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:58 < mnemoc> stage-5 is completly done inside a chroot 19:59 < mnemoc> of course each sandbox looks like a normal machine 19:59 < owl> hi karasz 20:00 < karasz> hi owlita 20:05 < rxr_> "Also aclocal will remake aclocal.m4 from your installed libtool.m4, but you still have ltmain.sh (and ltconfig) from the distributers version. We have recommended that packagers should `cat /usr/share/aclocal/libtool.m4 >> acinclude' to make sure that the packaged ltmain.sh matches the macros. If the package has done this you will also need to remove acinclude.m4 and rebuild it from libtool.m4 (and perhaps other files) to match the new ltmain.sh pulled in by libtoolize. Oh, and don't forget to rerun aclocal to remake aclocal.m4." 20:06 < _Ragnar_> O_O 20:06 < rxr_> remake or remake of regen ... and finallly you have a generator generating crappy crap and fun finding out where which crappy chunk comes from 20:06 < _Ragnar_> *g* 20:13 < karasz> mnemoc, so if not that why does arts fail? 20:13 < karasz> i am greppin' through arts.err.txt at no avail... 20:13 < mnemoc> karasz: do you have that file? 20:14 < karasz> and now my eyes look like o_O 20:14 < karasz> what file? 20:14 < mnemoc> /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/4.0.2//libstdc++.la 20:14 < karasz> yes 20:14 < mnemoc> build/foo-*/... 20:14 < karasz> without the `//` 20:14 < mnemoc> then the problem is on it's content 20:15 < karasz> kul 20:15 < karasz> so it is not solvable by me... 20:15 < mnemoc> publish it ,-) 20:16 < karasz> what? 20:16 < karasz> if you talk off regression you can find it 20:16 < karasz> http://www.x5.ro/regression/minimal/regressions.html 20:16 < mnemoc> know, i talk about build/minimal-2.2.0-alpha-x86-64-em64t-generic//usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/4.0.2/libstdc++.la 20:17 < mnemoc> s/know/no/ 20:17 < karasz> moment 20:19 < karasz> hmmm 20:20 < karasz> but why build/minimal....... since the report is about /usr/lib64/gcc/4.0.2//libstdc++.la ? 20:20 < mnemoc> because that is where your sandbox lives 20:21 < karasz> http://www.x5.ro/regression/minimal/libstdc++.la 20:23 < jsaw> re 20:24 < jsaw> how can svn be linked to libxml2, if libxml2 was not build? 20:24 < jsaw> .oO(?) 20:25 < mnemoc> neon? 20:25 < jsaw> don't know 20:26 < jsaw> I only know svn does not work on a fresh installation of minimal (due to missing libxml2.so.2) 20:35 < jsaw> starting over without as-needed... 20:38 < jsaw> mnemoc: may I change vserver to be able to apply more than one patch to the kernel? 20:38 < karasz> patch-2.6.15-rc7.bz2 ?? 20:39 < mnemoc> jsaw: isn't that done by linux26.conf itself? 20:39 < jsaw> there's a fix needed for patch-2.6.15-rc7.bz2 on 64bit platforms 20:39 < jsaw> no, it's in pkg_linux_pre.conf 20:40 < mnemoc> a patch for vserver or for linux kernel? 20:40 < jsaw> a patch for the vserver kernel patch... 20:41 < jsaw> or let's say, a supplementary patch 20:41 < jsaw> mnemoc: IÄ'll commit, then you can look at it 20:41 < mnemoc> :) 20:41 < mnemoc> please don't break the world :) 20:41 < jsaw> ? 20:42 < jsaw> can I do that with vserver? 20:42 < jsaw> explosive package! 20:42 < mnemoc> :) 20:44 < mnemoc> http://asteriskathome.sourceforge.net/ <--- i want a target for that 20:44 < CIA-9> jsaw * r14416 /trunk/package/security/vserver/ (pkg_linux_pre.conf vserver.desc): 20:44 < CIA-9> * sort and comment [D] tags 20:44 < CIA-9> * add 64bit fix 20:44 < CIA-9> * change pkg_linux_pre.conf to accept additional fixes 20:45 < jsaw> mnemoc: 20:44 < Bertl> jsaw: works fine here ... 20:45 < jsaw> ^-- in #vserver channel 20:45 < mnemoc> :) 20:45 < karasz> so mnemoc any ideeas about that arts? 20:45 < karasz> it is the thing that stops me from moving on... 20:46 < jsaw> karasz: looks like a missed dependency 20:46 < jsaw> karasz: try to find out, which library (in the arts tree) has those symbols 20:46 < jsaw> and add it after libartsflow.la 20:48 -!- axion [n=axion@cpe-24-195-94-82.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit ["leaving"] 20:53 < jsaw> I'm giving up 20:53 < mnemoc> ? 20:53 < jsaw> on one box it works, on the other not 20:53 < jsaw> *gah* 20:55 -!- mipe [n=mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has quit ["leaving"] 21:06 < CIA-9> jsaw * r14417 /trunk/package/security/vserver/pkg_linux_pre.conf: 21:06 < CIA-9> * fix matching of patch fixes 21:06 < CIA-9> * remove set -x, left over from debugging... 21:07 < jsaw> ok. 21:07 < jsaw> next stop 1-perl. 21:16 < karasz> jsaw, i was tryin to find a source file that defines function `Object_base` at no avail... 21:21 < jsaw> it's in mcop/object.cc 21:22 < jsaw> do you still have the src.art* directory? 21:22 < jsaw> please list all .la files here 21:26 < rxr_> hm 21:26 < rxr_> if we are lucky the gcc libstdc++ issue is due our xgcc-wrapper 21:27 < mnemoc> if we are lucky? 21:27 < CIA-9> jsaw * r14418 /trunk/package/perl/perl/perl.conf: 21:27 < CIA-9> * remove the "libs=..." passed to make hack, 21:27 < CIA-9> libs is filled by the Configure script, so Configure has 21:27 < CIA-9> to be fixed 21:28 < jsaw> karasz: still around? 21:28 < karasz> yes 21:28 < jsaw> see 21:23 21:28 < jsaw> or +- n*1h 21:28 < karasz> please list all .la files here ? 21:28 < jsaw> yep 21:28 < karasz> i am doin that 21:29 < rxr_> reminds me I have to get a ntp client onto the geode ... 21:29 < rxr_> mnemoc: any tiny ntp client ? ,-) 21:29 < jsaw> hehe 21:29 -!- You're now known as rxr 21:29 < rxr> ntp is ugly and not very diet friendly and openntpd not cross compile ready ... 21:30 -!- nzg [n=tschmidt@p54AFF038.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:31 < jsaw> rxr: clockspeed 21:31 < jsaw> ? 21:31 < jsaw> package/network/clockspeed 21:31 < mnemoc> :) 21:32 < jsaw> quoting .desc "...sntpclock is the simplest available NTP/SNTP client" 21:32 < mnemoc> clockspeed is great, once it get sync-ed you don't need to resync 21:32 < mnemoc> sntpclock doesn't even resolve names :p 21:33 < mnemoc> sntpclock `dnsip myntp` | clockadd 21:33 < karasz> libartsflow.la 21:33 < karasz> libartsflow_idl.la 21:33 < karasz> libartsflow.la 21:33 < karasz> libartsflow.lai 21:33 < karasz> libartsflow_idl.la 21:33 < karasz> libartsflow_idl.lai 21:33 < karasz> libgsl.la 21:33 < karasz> libgsl.la 21:33 < karasz> libgslpp.la 21:33 < karasz> libgslpp.la 21:33 < karasz> libltdlc.la 21:33 < karasz> libltdlc.la 21:34 < karasz> libmcop.la 21:34 < karasz> libmcop.la 21:34 < karasz> libmcop.lai 21:34 < karasz> libmcop_mt.la 21:34 < karasz> libmcop_mt.la 21:34 < karasz> libmcop_mt.lai 21:34 < karasz> ls -a1R | grep '\.la' 21:34 < jsaw> karasz: is libmcop in the dependency_libs variable inside libartsflow.la ? 21:36 < CIA-9> jsaw * r14419 /trunk/misc/lua/sde/ (desc.lua hooks.lua): * add two more TODO items 21:37 < karasz> yes jsaw 21:38 < karasz> # Libraries that this one depends upon. 21:38 < karasz> dependency_libs=' -L/opt/kde3/lib64 -L/opt/qt33/lib -L/usr/X11R7/lib64 -L/opt/gnome2/lib64 -L/TOOLCHAIN/src.gcc.minimal.20051230.204918.8560.karasz/gcc-4.0.2 21:38 < karasz> ******* 21:38 < jsaw> karasz: try adding it manually after libartsflow.la at the point where the linking fails 21:39 < karasz> in which file? 21:39 < jsaw> Makefile 21:40 < karasz> Makefile of libartsflow? 21:40 < jsaw> no 21:40 < jsaw> at the point where you get the linking error 21:42 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:43 < karasz> hmm from what i can see kmedia2 is failing 21:43 < karasz> so i checked out its Makefile 21:43 < jsaw> same errors, or less? 21:43 < jsaw> ah 21:43 < karasz> INCLUDES = -I$(top_srcdir)/mcop -I$(top_builddir)/mcop -I$(top_srcdir)/flow \ 21:43 < karasz> -I$(top_builddir)/flow -DEXECUTE=\"$(artsdpath)\" $(all_includes) 21:43 < jsaw> forget the last sentence... 21:44 < jsaw> karasz: no, somewhere among LIBS? 21:45 < jsaw> libkmedia2_la_DEPENDENCIES 21:46 < jsaw> add $(top_builddir)/mcop/libmcop.la 21:46 < rxr> mnemoc: I saw you use sysfiles btee on runit ... 21:46 < rxr> mnemoc: but do you also use rc, or can I move that to sysvinit ? 21:47 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 21:47 < mnemoc> only btee 21:48 < karasz> libkmedia2_la_DEPENDENCIES = libkmedia2_idl.la $(am__DEPENDENCIES_1) 21:48 * jsaw is throwing a "*" into the air at home (now, shoot mnemoc, here's the target) 21:48 < mnemoc> rc doesn't make sense on runit 21:48 < rxr> sure nto 21:48 < jsaw> karasz: yes 21:48 < rxr> just wanted to be sure 21:48 < mnemoc> jsaw: ?? 21:48 < jsaw> 20:45 < mnemoc> http://asteriskathome.sourceforge.net/ <--- i want a target for 21:48 < jsaw> that 21:49 < jsaw> "*" = asterisk 21:49 < mnemoc> jsaw: :D 21:49 < karasz> jsaw, how should i add that? 21:49 < karasz> i suppose we want the value as it is and add to it... 21:49 < jsaw> simply add at the end: $(top_builddir)/mcop/libmcop.la 21:50 < jsaw> the make, and see if some of the link errors disappear 21:50 < jsaw> if so, 21:50 < CIA-9> rene * r14420 /trunk/package/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 21:50 < CIA-9> * added ether_aton to dietlibc (mostly taken from glibc) 21:50 < CIA-9> * tweaked udhcpd to link with gcc (needed for dietlibc build) 21:50 < CIA-9> * marked udhcpd to build with -lcompat and BSD defines with 21:50 < CIA-9> dietlibc 21:50 < CIA-9> * marked udhcpd DIETLIBC 21:51 < jsaw> karasz: if so, try finding other missing .la libs and create a patch for Makefile.in ... 21:51 < jsaw> karasz: am I making sense to you? 21:51 < karasz> i recognize some words... 21:52 < rxr> what was proposed to me? cockspeed ? 21:52 < rxr> clockspeed even ? 21:52 < jsaw> :D 21:52 < jsaw> :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 21:52 < jsaw> :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 21:52 < jsaw> Freudian? 21:52 < mnemoc> :D 21:53 < mnemoc> rxr: _clock_speed, is not an ntp client, but includes a very simple and portable ntp client 21:53 < CIA-9> rene * r14421 /trunk/package/network/clockspeed/clockspeed.desc: * fixed clockspeed.desc I and T tags slightly 21:54 < mnemoc> *HEADACHE* 21:54 < mnemoc> tr a-z A-Z by the heat 21:54 < rxr> mnemoc: .oO what to do with you? send some snow over? 21:54 < rxr> mnemoc: the package did not arrive so far? 21:54 < mnemoc> i'll try to sleep early today 21:54 * jsaw hands C9H8O4 to mnemoc 21:55 < mnemoc> rxr: nope, nothing yet 21:55 < rxr> mnemoc: the sleep sound like a plan 21:55 < mnemoc> jsaw: what c9 h8 o4 is? 21:55 < jsaw> aspirin 21:55 < mnemoc> :) 21:55 < mnemoc> i thought it was more complex 21:56 < jsaw> blood brain barrier... 21:56 < jsaw> molecules have to be small to get into the brain 21:56 < mnemoc> :D 21:57 < jsaw> .oO(typing blood brain barrier is easier then spelling... I had so many knots in my tongue the last year when I learned that term) 21:58 < mnemoc> http://nautilus.fis.uc.pt/cec/molecularium/stereo/moleculas/c9h8o4.jpg 21:58 < jsaw> s/spelling/pronouncing/ 21:58 < mnemoc> is it me, or that image is hard to see? 21:58 < karasz> hmm jsaw my build extracted again source and of course it failed... 21:58 < jsaw> oh 21:59 < mnemoc> karasz: use debug.sh 21:59 < jsaw> sorry, so I was not explicit enough 21:59 < jsaw> karasz: yep, execute ./src.*/debug.sh 21:59 < jsaw> then you are inside the build environment 22:00 < jsaw> mnemoc: do you have stereo glasses? 22:00 -!- sparc-kly__ [n=mubex@64.237.244.104] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:00 < mnemoc> jsaw: that's it? 22:00 < mnemoc> jsaw: 3d? 22:00 < jsaw> mnemoc: one eye red, one eye green 22:00 < jsaw> mnemoc: yes, 3d 22:00 < rxr> cockspeed is not a bit cross aware 22:00 < jsaw> :D 22:01 < mnemoc> *G* 22:01 < rxr> runs gcc hardcoded in the ugly compile script 22:01 < jsaw> rxr rxr 22:01 < rxr> stupid crap 22:01 < rxr> did I mention I cross build on the powerpc64 to everything else now 22:01 < rxr> ... 22:01 < mnemoc> rxr: djb has that bad habit 22:02 < rxr> b0rke d... 22:02 < rxr> # ./compile tryrdtsc.c 22:02 < rxr> tryrdtsc.c: In function 'main': 22:02 < rxr> tryrdtsc.c:14: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function '_exit' 22:02 < rxr> tryrdtsc.c:11: error: impossible constraint in 'asm' 22:02 < rxr> tryrdtsc.c:12: error: impossible constraint in 'asm' 22:02 < mnemoc> uhm 22:02 < rxr> mnemoc: this f*cked compile script on ppc ... 22:03 < rxr> of course ppc64 gcc does not have a clue about x86 asm ... 22:03 < rxr> mnemoc: mind if I hack this compile fluff away ? 22:03 < mnemoc> np 22:03 < rxr> conf-cc conf-ld warn-auto.sh 22:03 < rxr> ( cat warn-auto.sh; \ 22:03 < rxr> echo CC=\'`head -n 1 conf-cc`\'; \ 22:03 < rxr> echo LD=\'`head -n 1 conf-ld`\' \ 22:03 < rxr> ) > auto-ccld.sh 22:03 < rxr> ouhm 22:03 < rxr> wonderful way to configure this ... 22:03 < mnemoc> :) 22:03 < mnemoc> echo crap crap > conf-cc 22:03 < rxr> could have dumped the makefile CC variable at last ... 22:05 < mnemoc> after some years you get used to that kind of configure scripts 22:05 < rxr> configure ? 22:05 < karasz> debug.sh gives me some sort of shell... 22:05 < rxr> hm 22:06 < rxr> karasz: ack 22:07 < mnemoc> karasz: a shell inside the sandbox 22:07 < mnemoc> karasz: with the enviroment used by t2 to build the package 22:07 < rxr> cockspeed is x86 and slowlaris only I think 22:07 < karasz> and i am suposed to manual build in that? 22:07 < mnemoc> what about sntpclock and clockadd specificly? 22:08 < mnemoc> karasz: reproduce what .conf does 22:09 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:09 < rxr> # ./sntpclock 17.254.0.31 22:09 < rxr> Ï:w.s(U 22:09 < karasz> # workaround for gcc-4.0 22:09 < karasz> var_append GCC_WRAPPER_REMOVE " " "-fno-common -fvisibility=hidden -fvisibility-inlines-hidden" 22:09 < rxr> is that the intended output ? 22:09 < karasz> this is all in .conf 22:10 < karasz> so i make a ./configure with thoose? 22:10 < mnemoc> rxr: yes 22:10 < mnemoc> rxr: | clockview or | clockadd 22:10 < rxr> ouhm 22:10 < rxr> # ./sntpclock 17.254.0.31 | ./clockview 22:10 < rxr> before: 2006-01-02 22:11:42.733496000000000000 22:10 < rxr> after: 2006-01-02 22:11:44.833575999888166784 22:11 < rxr> that is ppc64 not yet dietlibc ... 22:11 < mnemoc> closer :) 22:12 < mnemoc> btw, clockview just display. clockadd does the change 22:12 < rxr> no make clean even 22:12 < rxr> mnemoc: figured ... 22:12 < karasz> GCC_WRAPPER_REMOVE means that thoose are defaults for configure and we want to remove them? 22:12 < rxr> what kind of software distribution is that ? 22:12 < mnemoc> rxr: DJB-style :) 22:12 < rxr> not el-cheapo but el-ninio ... 22:13 < mnemoc> *G* 22:13 < jsaw> karasz: just type make after the change to am__DEPENDENCY_Ãœ* 22:14 < karasz> i do not need to configure? 22:14 < jsaw> karasz: that should suffice in most cases to see if a change works 22:14 < jsaw> karasz: actually you shouldn't 22:14 < jsaw> karasz: you just want to see if the build continues 22:15 < karasz> :( 22:15 < jsaw> karasz: if it does, you can create a patch to the Makefile.in 22:15 < karasz> nice 22:15 < karasz> super nice even 22:15 < karasz> /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/4.0.2/../../../../x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib64/../lib/libdl.so when searching for -ldl 22:15 < karasz> /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/4.0.2/../../../../x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib64/../lib/libdl.a when searching for -ldl 22:15 < karasz> /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/4.0.2/../../../../x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib64/../lib/libpthread.so when searching for -lp thread 22:15 < karasz> /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/4.0.2/../../../../x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib64/../lib/libpthread.a when searching for -lpt hread 22:15 < karasz> /usr/lib64/../lib/libstdc++.so: could not read symbols: File in wrong format 22:16 < jsaw> o.O 22:16 < jsaw> which stage? 22:16 < mnemoc> 6/usr/lib64/../lib/libdl.so ?? 22:17 < jsaw> hmmm, cross compile...? 22:18 < jsaw> seems, you have to provide the right CC CXX and so on :( 22:18 < karasz> i do not cross compile 22:18 < karasz> i am on x86-64 22:18 < jsaw> then just kick libtool 22:18 < karasz> nah 22:18 < mnemoc> LIBTOOL-QUIRK? 22:18 < karasz> i guess rxr will kick it for me too 22:18 < jsaw> try: make LIBTOOL=/usr/bin/libtool 22:19 < karasz> that worked for pcre 22:19 < jsaw> try it here, too 22:19 < jsaw> on the cli 22:20 < karasz> now i got back the old error 22:20 < jsaw> all of them, or less? 22:20 < karasz> many 22:20 < jsaw> Object_base still part of it? 22:20 < karasz> i do not know if are all, but are quite similar 22:20 < karasz> yes\ 22:20 < jsaw> :( 22:21 < jsaw> <- running out of ideas 22:21 * karasz <- hasn't got any ideeas... 22:23 * rxr wonder is select() is not implemented in dietlibc for ppc/ppc64 ... 22:24 < rxr> syscalls.s/select.S:#ifdef __NR_select 22:24 < rxr> syscalls.s/select.S:syscall(select,select) 22:24 < rxr> hm - or that generic code does work .. 22:25 < mnemoc> :) 22:27 < rxr> 0x0000000010004240 <.select+0>: li r0,82 22:27 < rxr> 0x0000000010004244 <.select+4>: b 0x100041cc <__unified_syscall> 22:27 < rxr> ok - not too bad 22:27 < rxr> Single stepping until exit from function __unified_syscall, 22:27 < rxr> which has no line number information. 22:27 < rxr> 0x00000000100041d4 in error_unified_syscall () 22:27 < rxr> hm 22:28 < rxr> well / me then blindly hacking this cruft to build with dietlibc without this x86 only part and hope the best when I run it on the geode ... 22:29 < rxr> and if that even works note that I need to review select on at least ppc64 then ... 22:34 < rxr> mnemoc: what should I play nice and fill the conf-* stuff of cockspeed or hack the whole Makefiel crap away ? 22:36 < mnemoc> fill conf-* 22:37 < mnemoc> clockspeed is not GPL 22:37 < rxr> by godness 22:38 < rxr> have you seen the install procedure ??????????????????? 22:38 < mnemoc> yeah :) 22:38 < rxr> it links it's own f*cked install C application and starts that ???????????????????????????????? 22:38 < rxr> sorry my stoarch turns over 22:38 < mnemoc> :) 22:39 < rxr> please farther of all mighty - please do not let me see such stuff that often ... 22:39 < rxr> drugs are to cheap - really 22:39 < rxr> too eve 22:39 < rxr> n 22:39 < rxr> my oh myu 22:39 < rxr> ok - either abondone clockspeed for my use 22:40 < rxr> or do not let it install itself this ill way ... 22:40 < rxr> that is convert to shell code in clockspeed.conf ... 22:40 < mnemoc> exactclock :) 22:41 < rxr> well with such fluff around it is not too unlikly ... 22:41 * jsaw hands benzodiazepine to rxr 22:41 < rxr> mnemoc: do you use clockspeed ? 22:41 < rxr> == 22:21:51 =[1]=> Building base/glibc [20051128 2.2.0-alpha]. 22:41 < rxr> == 01/02/06 22:39:51 =[1]=> Finished building package glibc. 22:41 < mnemoc> rxr: yes 22:41 < rxr> at least the other build is going quickly .. 22:42 < rxr> mnemoc: so what? do an own install ? 22:42 < mnemoc> rxr: i use clockspeed package 22:51 < karasz> http://www.x5.ro/regression/minimal/regressions.html 22:51 < karasz> still no minimal desktop :( 22:51 < karasz> pending should be read failed... 22:52 < karasz> today i didn't took any steps further...:( 22:53 < rxr> clockadd.c:15: warning: return type of 'main' is not 'int' 22:53 < rxr> ... 23:00 < rxr> this auto_home crap also wants to run a compiled binary ... 23:00 < rxr> my oh my 23:00 < rxr> that Makefile crap is even more bullshit than the typical auto* hackery .. 23:03 < mnemoc> ) 23:03 < mnemoc> :) 23:05 < rxr> so 23:05 < rxr> mostly there 23:05 < rxr> that was a pain .. 23:06 * karasz wonders when will he be able to movein the new wks... .oO 23:11 < mnemoc> karasz: t2-2.1 :) 23:11 < rxr> ? 23:12 < karasz> mnemoc, hmmm right now it sounds tempting.... 23:14 < karasz> but no x86-64-desktop on 2.1 23:14 < karasz> i mean isos 23:14 < mnemoc> rene has one 23:14 < mnemoc> 2.1.1 23:15 < rxr> it is in incoming on gsmp 23:15 < rxr> told mipe already 23:15 < rxr> he said mostly ok 23:16 < rxr> but I want to rebuild the things you mentioned before it moves to official 23:16 < rxr> == 01/02/06 23:16:47 =[1]=> Finished building package clockspeed. 23:16 < mnemoc> svn diff ? 23:17 < rxr> not yet ready 23:17 < rxr> files did not install due to thinko 23:17 < karasz> 2.1.1 has no modular xorg iirc... 23:17 < rxr> nope 23:17 < rxr> but 2.1 is stable ,-) 23:17 < karasz> ;( 23:18 < mnemoc> 2.2 is cool, but coolness has it's price 23:18 < karasz> price that seems i cannot pay... 23:18 < rxr> mnemoc: last week 2.2 was even perfeclty use and buildable 23:19 < rxr> then some freaks came and freaked it up ... 23:19 < mnemoc> hey, my changes were not responsable of that 23:19 < rxr> nope 23:19 < rxr> most probable libtool gcc quirks ... 23:19 < mnemoc> :) 23:19 < rxr> and / or lingering around a longer time unnoticed - uncovered by some sideffect 23:19 < mnemoc> i guess that is 23:20 < karasz> why does stuff tend to break when i am around? 23:20 < karasz> guess it's my aura... ;( 23:20 < rxr> hah! 23:20 < rxr> karasz presence was it ... 23:21 < karasz> i confess 23:21 < karasz> it was me. 23:21 < karasz> guilty as charged. 23:21 < karasz> -#-O.O-#- 23:21 < rxr> # svn diff package/network/clockspeed/ | diffstat 23:21 < rxr> clockspeed.conf | 25 +++++++++++++++++-------- 23:21 < rxr> x-cross.patch | 21 +++++++++++++++++++++ 23:21 < rxr> 2 files changed, 38 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-) 23:22 < CIA-9> rene * r14422 /trunk/package/network/clockspeed/ (clockspeed.conf clockspeed.desc x-cross.patch): 23:22 < CIA-9> * fixed clockspeed to cross build and even with dietlibc 23:22 < CIA-9> * fixed clockspeed for non-x86 / non-solaris builds 23:22 < mnemoc> "karasz, t2 karma" 23:23 < karasz> i am T2's karma? 23:23 < karasz> then T2 is doomed 23:24 < karasz> guys pack it up and find smthing else to do 23:24 < rxr> root@geode:~# sntpclock 17.254.0.31 | clockview 23:24 < rxr> before: 2006-01-02 23:24:21.730189000000000000 23:24 < rxr> after: 2006-01-02 22:25:16.187292999927811324 23:24 < rxr> weeeeeeeee 23:24 < rxr> so I have to review select on ppc* :-(((( 23:24 < rxr> but we can built clockspeed with dietlibc and cross now ... 23:25 < rxr> it might miss one or two state files in the flist 23:25 < rxr> but I had not build to compare ... 23:25 < rxr> due to the f*cked build system it did not bulid on any box powered up ... 23:25 < rxr> well - ok - maybe gsmp would have done remotely ... 22:27 < rxr> mnemoc: clockspeed is used now ? 22:27 < rxr> how even ? 22:27 < mnemoc> /usr/bin/clockspeed & for you 22:28 < mnemoc> it use /var/state/clockspeed/adjust to keep the machine on time 22:28 < rxr> hm 22:28 < rxr> well - have to go to bed ... 22:28 < rxr> need sleep - got too much djb ... 22:28 < morfoh> cat /usr/doc/clockspeed/INSTALL 22:28 < jsaw> mnemoc: 1-perl should build again 22:28 < rxr> at least the basics work ... 22:28 < morfoh> sleep well rxr 22:28 < rxr> cu 22:28 < jsaw> cu rxr 22:28 < rxr> morfoh: oh - sorry for messing up your clock package ... 22:29 < morfoh> rxr: np ... you can mess up what ever you want ;) 22:29 < karasz> cu rxr 22:29 < morfoh> .oO( at least ... as long as it builds with dietlibc )o :p 22:31 < CIA-9> jsaw * r14423 /trunk/package/security/vserver/pkg_linux_pre.conf: * fix matching of additional patches 22:36 < rxr> btw. it is neither of our gcc tweaks 22:36 < jsaw> O.O 22:36 < rxr> this happens also with this local diff: 22:36 < rxr> - # libtool injects -lstdc++ or even a absolute patch /usr/lib/libstdc++ 22:36 < rxr> - # for multilib builds while building stdc++ ... 22:36 < rxr> - # :-( so we strip it again :-(( 22:36 < rxr> - var_append GCC_WRAPPER_REMOVE ' ' '-nostdlib?-lstdc++' 22:36 < rxr> - var_append GCC_WRAPPER_REMOVE ' ' '-nostdlib?/usr/lib*/libstdc++.so' 22:36 < rxr> # create and set up the xgcc cmd_wrapper 22:36 < rxr> - setup_xgcc_wrapper 22:36 < rxr> +# setup_xgcc_wrapper 22:37 < mnemoc> o.o 22:39 -!- CIA-1 [i=cia@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #t2 22:39 < rxr> I give up on this libstdc++.la hackery for tonight ... 22:39 < rxr> and I have lots of stuff to do tomorrow ... 22:40 < mnemoc> how was uni? 22:40 < rxr> also 22:40 < mnemoc> ready for you? 22:40 < rxr> but mostly usb debugging for archivista 22:40 < rxr> what is ready ? 22:40 < mnemoc> your new? university 22:42 -!- nzg [n=tschmidt@p54AFF038.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 22:43 < rxr> ah - was, ... 22:43 < rxr> yes was there 22:44 < rxr> lecture started with an amazing low of 2 people ... 22:44 < mnemoc> you and the teacher? 22:44 < rxr> no two listeners 22:44 < rxr> a 3rd 15m after the beginning ... 22:44 < rxr> finallly 6 or so after 3h ... 22:45 < mnemoc> 3h on the same lecture? 22:45 < mnemoc> here they are 1:20h 22:46 < rxr> at the applied science thing I'm they are 1:30 but this theory lecture is two blocks ... 22:47 < rxr> so - geode clock set accurately enough for now. .. 22:47 < rxr> n8 all 23:03 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178130009.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 23:03 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.1 TAGGED and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Give us a greeting and don't hesitate to ask any questions you have :-) 23:03 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Mon Jan 2 15:21:42 2006] 23:03 [Users #t2] 23:03 [@ChanServ] [ demian] [ LMJ ] [ morfoh] [ owl ] [ zod ] 23:03 [ Baldzius] [ jsaw ] [ madtux] [ mtr_ ] [ rxr ] [ _Ragnar_] 23:03 [ CIA-1 ] [ karasz] [ mnemoc] [ nzg ] [ valentin] 23:03 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal] 23:03 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004 23:03 -!- [freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 23:03 * karasz feels good 23:03 < jsaw> karasz: RUN, GRAB madtux' HAND!!!!!!!!!! FAST!!!!!!!!!!! 23:03 < karasz> thanks madtux 23:03 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 26 secs 23:03 < jsaw> karasz: and don't let him go away anymore ;) 23:04 < jsaw> mnemoc: apropos vserver, did you patch strace? (see #vserver chan) 23:04 < madtux> karasz, well just ask 23:05 < karasz> madtux, if you really want you can find my regression at http://www.x5.ro/regression/minimal/regressions.html 23:05 < madtux> 23:05 < jsaw> madtux: the arts compilation needs some attention 23:05 < karasz> mainly is arts failing 23:05 < mnemoc> jsaw: uhm, no.... i don't do anything outside vserver for vserver 23:06 < jsaw> mnemoc: so, I'll make a note on my TODO 23:06 < karasz> madtux, the history is that jsaw pointed me some resolution 23:06 < madtux> mm... 23:06 < karasz> but after aplying it i came across the real problem 23:07 < karasz> some stuff related to libstdc++ 23:07 < madtux> i see.. 23:07 < karasz> if i understood corectly what rxr said it is a gcc bug 23:07 < karasz> but maybe i am wrong 23:07 < karasz> jsaw, 23:07 < karasz> ? 23:08 < rxr> http://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/data//2005/12/0422142713519.patch 23:09 < rxr> ^- when this continues at this pace and they force do to it differently from t2, t2 and rock will barely compare in 1y 23:10 < mnemoc> now i gonna vomit 23:10 < jsaw> o.O 23:11 < rxr> mnemoc: ? 23:12 < madtux> mnemoc, yeah let it all come out.. 23:13 < karasz> madtux, i am beaten, i must sleep now but your helpwish is allways appreciated 23:13 < jsaw> karasz: i understand it the same way 23:13 < mnemoc> i don't like how fake solves the issues 23:13 < mnemoc> now i have to move home 23:13 < madtux> karasz, ok 23:13 < karasz> cu guys tommorow 23:13 < karasz> bye 23:13 < morfoh> cu karasz 23:13 < morfoh> cu mnemoc 23:13 < rxr> cu 23:14 < mnemoc> in fact the duplicated and ugly cpp call was what made me vomit 23:14 < mnemoc> ok, cu :) 23:14 < morfoh> ;) 23:15 * mnemoc want foo-%! 23:15 < mnemoc> bye 23:15 < madtux> morfoh, what are u smilling at? 23:15 < madtux> go back to code! 23:15 < jsaw> cu mnemoc 23:16 < madtux> *g* 23:16 < morfoh> madtux: I will never smile anymore ... sorry 23:18 < madtux> morfoh, i'm just kidding bro... 23:18 < madtux> how are u ? :) 23:19 < morfoh> madtux: just kidding too ... I'm quite fine ... thanks ;) 23:19 < morfoh> you too ? 23:19 < madtux> yeah thanks. 23:19 < madtux> :) 23:20 < morfoh> good :) 23:25 < jsaw> gah I'm blind 23:25 < jsaw> I just saw "Building base/libtool" passing by on screen 23:26 < morfoh> mnemoc: yeah .. foo-% is needed ... especially for some more optimized targets 23:47 < CIA-1> aldas * r14424 /trunk/package/games/allegro/allegro.desc: * updated allegro (4.2.0-rc2 -> 4.2.0) 23:52 < CIA-1> aldas * r14425 /trunk/package/develop/alternatives/ (Makefile.patch alternatives.desc): 23:52 < CIA-1> * updated alternatives (0.2.0rc3 -> 0.2.0) 23:52 < CIA-1> * removed Makefile.patch - obsolete 23:55 < CIA-1> aldas * r14426 /trunk/package/network/bind/bind.desc: * updated bind (9.2.5 -> 9.3.2) --- Log closed Tue Jan 03 00:00:36 2006