T2 IRC Log: 2005-12-18

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--- Log opened Sun Dec 18 00:00:13 2005
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00:48 < CIA-9> rene * r13983 /trunk/target/install/ (build_initrd.sh init):
00:48 < CIA-9> * further next-gen install/ implementation, mostly functional - most
00:48 < CIA-9> important missing part is just gunzip to decompress the 2nd_stage
00:48 < rxr> n8 all
01:27 < mnemoc> rehi
01:37 < MisterN> n8
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02:27 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0 RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Give us a greeting and don't hesitate to ask any questions you have :-)
02:27 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Fri Nov 11 21:33:14 2005]
02:27 [Users #t2]
02:27 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-9 ] [ karasz ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ]
02:27 [ _Ragnar_] [ dalibor] [ kristian] [ mtr ] [ valentin]
02:27 [ Baldzius] [ jsaw ] [ LMJ ] [ owl ] [ Xenos ]
02:27 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal]
02:27 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004
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03:10 < ojh> Hi. Anyone know anything about a 'libffi' ? I read that it is part of GCC but it does not appear to be in my T2 2.1.0 install.
03:22 < dalibor> ojh: yes! I do!
03:22 < dalibor> it is part of gcc.
03:23 < dalibor> green wrote it
03:23 < dalibor> he's on #classpath
03:23 < dalibor> it's a foreign function call interface
03:23 < ojh> dalibor: Thanks :) How do I get it on T2?
03:23 < dalibor> oh.
03:24 < dalibor> that i dn't know, sorry ;(
03:24 < dalibor> but, on a side note, what are you using it for?
03:25 < ojh> dalibor: I found the package's main page on redhat.com so I guess I'll write a DESC file and add it myself :)
03:25 < ojh> dalibor: Building the LUA-GTK2 interface package.
03:27 < ojh> http://luaforge.net/projects/lua-gtk/
03:45 < dalibor> nice
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05:32 < kristian> moin
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09:14 < misl> morning all :)
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10:40 < rxr> re
10:45 < kristian> re rxr
10:46 < CIA-9> rene * r13984 /trunk/package/gnome2/vte/vte.desc: * updated vte (0.11.15 -> 0.11.16)
10:46 < CIA-9> rene * r13985 /trunk/package/editors/auctex/auctex.desc: * updated auctex (11.55 -> 11.82)
10:47 < CIA-9> rene * r13986 /trunk/package/develop/autogen/autogen.desc: * updated autogen (5.7 -> 5.8)
10:50 < mtr> hi
10:51 < rxr> moin mtr
10:51 < mtr> hi rxr
10:53 -!- misl [n=chatzill@cc478814-d.mp1.dr.home.nl] has joined #t2
10:53 < mtr> mnemoc complains about my nvidia driver update :(
10:54 < mtr> thereby was the support for legacy chipsets like TNT2 already dropped in previous releases
10:55 < mtr> mnemoc: please check the 7676-README: "Below are the legacy GPUs that are no longer supported in the unified driver... RIVA TNT RIVA TNT2/TNT2 Ultra ..."
10:56 < rxr> nvidia should at least release specs for those they consider legacy - crappy company ...
10:56 * rxr breakfast
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11:50 < CIA-9> rene * r13987 /trunk/package/filesystem/parted/parted.desc: * updated parted (1.6.24 -> 1.6.25.1)
11:55 < CIA-9> rene * r13988 /trunk/package/x11/rxvt-unicode/rxvt-unicode.desc: * updated rxvt-unicode (5.8 -> 5.9)
12:01 < CIA-9> rene * r13989 /trunk/target/generic/pkgsel/00-minimal.in: * added mine to the minimal package selection
12:02 < CIA-9> rene * r13990 /trunk/package/perl/perl/perl.desc: * fixed perl priority to build befoer auto* in stage 3
12:05 * VX is back (gone 02:40:36)
12:05 -!- VX is now known as Xenos
12:08 < rxr> hi Xenos
12:09 < Xenos> hello, rxr ;)
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12:41 < rxr> cu+
12:41 < kristian> rxr or a special version just for these boards
12:42 < LMJ> hello the chan
12:43 < kristian> rxr ati is not really better but they have some persons sending patches for the kernel at least
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13:18 < rxr> re
13:19 < rxr> kristian: any binary is crap - a special version for old bords as well
13:19 < rxr> we want the SPEC and nothing else
13:19 < rxr> kristian: ati has at least historically be open up to the 9200 and new open source driver up to 9600 and other X-press cards ...
13:19 < rxr> R300 silicon that is ..
13:20 < rxr> anything not open-SPEC is inacceptable ...
13:20 < rxr> also this binary only junk from nvidia also did not work for all cards
13:20 < rxr> esepcially one at a client and with binary junk we're not able to debug it at all
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13:28 < misl> hi all :)
13:32 < rxr> hi misl
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13:48 < CIA-9> rene * r13991 /trunk/target/install/build_stage2.sh: * fixed cleaning up 2nd_stage_small from a previous run
14:34 < CIA-9> aldas * r13992 /trunk/package/network/lighttpd/lighttpd.desc: * updated lighttpd (1.4.7 -> 1.4.8)
14:45 < CIA-9> aldas * r13993 /trunk/package/network/prozilla/prozilla.desc: * updated prozilla (2.0.0 -> 2.0.3)
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15:19 < rxr> hey - new installer is mostly there now
15:19 < rxr> boot up into 2nd_stage now
15:28 < rxr> ok - only one more fix and the normal 2nd_stage should be functional
15:29 < rxr> but after lunch
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15:43 < CIA-9> aldas * r13994 /trunk/package/develop/cln/cln.desc: * updated cln (1.1.10 -> 1.1.11)
15:49 < mnemoc> moin
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15:50 < VX> mnemoc: here?
15:50 < VX> --- [mnemoc] idle 00:00:25, signon: Sun Dec 18 10:14:50 :)
15:50 < mnemoc> 6wb vixen
15:50 < VX> i said
15:51 < VX> no more vixen
15:51 < mnemoc> i thought you haev died
15:51 < VX> )
15:51 < mnemoc> .oO
15:51 < VX> wait i min
15:51 < mnemoc> ok, wb xenos-alterego
15:52 * VX pokes mnemoc
15:52 < VX> http://www.ilpi.com/msds/vx.html
15:52 < VX> :)
15:53 < mnemoc> C11 H26 N O2 P S
15:54 < VX> but
15:54 < VX> i just want to say that i found a nice clearlook gtk2 theme :D
15:54 < misl> so VX killed vixen and use nerve gas :)
15:54 < VX> )
15:54 < VX> hi, misl
15:54 < misl> hi VX
15:54 < misl> hi mnemoc
15:54 < mnemoc> hi missile
15:55 < misl> yes, but this missile does not carry nerve gas :D
15:55 < mnemoc> misl: guillem got the same OOM i had installing eclipse :)
15:55 < mnemoc> misl: :)
15:56 < misl> :) So it will be fixed shortly?
15:56 * VX pokes mnemoc
15:56 < VX> http://newage.gcnet.ru/uploads/img-1304-tish.png
15:56 < VX> look
15:56 < CIA-9> aldas * r13995 /trunk/package/network/csync2/csync2.desc: * updated csync2 (1.24 -> 1.28)
15:56 < mnemoc> misl: i hope
15:57 < VX> & a very nice firefox theme.. https://addons.mozilla.org/themes/moreinfo.php?application=firefox&category=Top%20Rated&numpg=10&id=664
15:57 < valentin> hi
15:57 < valentin> VX: no antialiased fonts ?
15:57 < valentin> in http://newage.gcnet.ru/uploads/img-1304-tish.png
15:57 < VX> hi, valentin nope :)
15:57 < VX> only clear
15:58 < VX> pixel-fonts, i mean
15:58 < misl> hi valentin
15:58 < mnemoc> wb valentin
15:58 < misl> I have to go now, bbl
15:58 < VX> http://artwizaleczapka.sourceforge.net/
15:58 < VX> ^^-- valentin :)
15:59 < VX> mnemoc: wha da ya think about this theme? :)
15:59 < valentin> VX: so the fonts are supposed to look like 80s text terminal computer fonts :)
15:59 < VX> :)
15:59 < VX> yep
15:59 < mnemoc> less dark
16:00 < VX> but i like small pixel fonts
16:00 < VX> mnemoc: ?
16:00 < VX> look at the theme, not at the x-chat background)_
16:01 < mnemoc> .oO( i don't see the difference )o
16:01 < Baldzius> :)
16:02 < mnemoc> hi Baldzius
16:02 < VX> mnemoc: between what?
16:02 < Baldzius> hi mnemoc
16:02 < mnemoc> VX: older and current
16:02 < VX> lol
16:02 < mnemoc> VX: will you pacjage artwizaleczapka ?
16:02 < VX> http://newage.gcnet.ru/uploads/img-1304-tish.png
16:03 < VX> http://newage.gcnet.ru/uploads/img-1105-desktop.png
16:03 < VX> look
16:03 < VX> mnemoc: nope
16:03 < VX> valentin doesn't like it :P
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16:06 < valentin> VX: that is no excuse for not packaging it
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16:06 < VX> )
16:06 < VX> i see
16:06 < VX> valentin: can u make a scrrenshot of your desk?:)
16:07 < valentin> just don't hope i'll ever use that package
16:07 < valentin> VX: naahh, it is sooo boring
16:07 < VX> :/
16:07 < valentin> KDE with plastic theme + t2 background bitmap
16:07 < VX> mnemoc's desktop is very nice :)
16:09 < mnemoc> :)
16:10 < mnemoc> default xfce without taskbar, plus a few plugins on the panel
16:10 < mnemoc> and clearlooks
16:11 < VX> :D
16:12 * VX pokes ChanServ
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16:12 < VX> :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDd
16:13 < VX> lol
16:13 < mnemoc> ,oO
16:13 < mnemoc> what have you done? poor ChanServ
16:13 < VX> )
16:13 < VX> mnemoc: /just /m chanserv set #t2 guard off
16:13 < VX> :)
16:14 < VX> or /cs set #t2 guard off
16:15 < mnemoc> bah
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16:24 < rxr> hi mnemoc
16:27 < mnemoc> hi rxr
16:29 < CIA-9> rene * r13996 /trunk/package/filesystem/udev/50-udev.rules: * fixed latest u/dev rules for to rename tty[0-9]* to vc/*
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16:32 < rxr> so - this udev fix fixes 2nd stage
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16:34 < mnemoc> :D
16:37 < CIA-9> rene * r13997 /trunk/target/install/ (6 files in 3 dirs):
16:37 < CIA-9> * first working version of the new install/ installer, completely
16:37 < CIA-9> loads the 2nd_stage - only missing part: compression of the 2nd_stage
16:37 < CIA-9> due to statically decompressor needed in the initramfs
16:37 < CIA-9> rene * r13998 /trunk/target/install/build_image.sh: * removed install/build_image.sh, unused copy from livecd/
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16:56 < CIA-9> aldas * r13999 /trunk/package/network/webmin/webmin.desc: * updated webmin (1.240 -> 1.250)
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17:47 < rxr> mnemoc: have you found anything looking at the gnome problems in t2 ?
17:48 < rxr> valentin: have you done any coding today?
18:03 < CIA-9> rene * r14000 /trunk/target/generic/pkgsel/00-minimal.in:
18:03 < CIA-9> * added kbd and fget to the minimal template, the later is needed for
18:03 < CIA-9> the installer
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18:04 < CIA-9> rene * r14001 /trunk/target/install/ (build_stage2.sh init):
18:04 < CIA-9> * added keyboard maps and terminal files to the 2nd_stage, copying
18:04 < CIA-9> the kernel modules from the first stage and polished some texts
18:13 < CIA-9> rene * r14002 /trunk/package/mail/thunderbird/ (freetype.patch gcc-4.0.patch): * adapted thunderbird patches for latest version update
18:27 < rxr> oh 14k this weekend ,-)!
18:27 < rxr> I have not believed in this myself when joked that ...
18:28 < Baldzius> :)
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18:43 < CIA-9> jsaw * r14003 /trunk/package/network/fget/fget.conf: * add "$root" prefix to cp destination (for stage 1)
18:46 < CIA-9> aldas * r14004 /trunk/package/mail/libesmtp/libesmtp.desc: * updated libesmtp (1.0.3r1 -> 1.0.4)
18:46 < rxr> jsaw: thanks
18:46 < jsaw> re (for a couple of secs)
18:46 < jsaw> rxr: np
18:47 < CIA-9> rene * r14005 /trunk/scripts/Create-ISO: * fixed Create-ISO to gracefully handle empty lines in isofs.txt files
18:47 < jsaw> rxr: can we remove .gem creation ?
18:50 < CIA-9> aldas * r14006 /trunk/package/gnome2/balsa/ (balsa.desc compile-fix.patch):
18:50 < CIA-9> * updated balsa (2.3.6 -> 2.3.7)
18:50 < CIA-9> * added compile-fix.patch
18:50 < rxr> jsaw: compelte remove?
18:51 < rxr> completely that is
18:51 < jsaw> rxr: removing the options in config.in and build-target, so yes
18:51 < rxr> yes - we could
18:51 < jsaw> I mean, we have anyway deprecated that format...
18:52 < rxr> +1 from my side
18:56 < rxr> Shared: 441 kB in 2 files
18:56 < rxr> Disk 1: 143158 kB in 1063 files (boot)
18:56 < rxr> Total: 143599 kB in 1065 files
18:56 * rxr praying
19:03 < rxr> woohoo
19:04 < rxr> ok - now I need to patch gasgui to not assume .gem ,-)
19:04 < jsaw> cu later
19:05 < CIA-9> rene * r14007 /trunk/target/generic/build.sh: * let the generic target combine other isofs files
19:05 < CIA-9> rene * r14008 /trunk/target/install/ (build.sh build_stage2.sh):
19:05 < CIA-9> * fixed the new install/ "target" backend code to yield a correct
19:05 < CIA-9> isofs.txt
19:23 < rxr> anyone here wanting to test the 2.2 installer ?
19:25 < Baldzius> i am out of space :)
19:25 < rxr> would need some hours to publish anyway
19:25 < Baldzius> need to revise my hdd
19:25 < Baldzius> someday
19:37 < rxr> yeah
19:37 < rxr> now gasgui installs the tars ,-)
19:39 < CIA-9> rene * r14009 /trunk/package/archiver/mine/gasgui-any-archiver.patch: * further patched mine so that gasgui installs our tarballs
19:47 < rxr> Track 01: Total bytes read/written: 174526464/174526464 (85218 sectors).
19:47 < rxr> so - soon on real silicon instead of qemu ...
19:49 < rxr> cu then
20:15 < CIA-9> aldas * r14010 /trunk/package/audio/xmms2/xmms2.desc: * updated xmms2 (0.1DR2.2 -> 0.2DrAlban)
20:37 < CIA-9> aldas * r14011 /trunk/package/graphic/xsane/xsane.desc: * updated xsane (0.98 -> 0.98b)
20:39 < CIA-9> aldas * r14012 /trunk/package/graphic/sane-backends/sane-backends.desc: * updated sane-backends (1.0.16 -> 1.0.17)
20:56 < valentin> yeah - got the preferences in domain de.exactcode.avision-osx finaly
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21:05 < LMJ> good evening
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21:19 < LMJ> any tried to compile gaim 2.0 beta crap ? i would to try it if it coredumped just like 1.5 on my system
21:19 < CIA-9> aldas * r14013 /trunk/package/gnome2/libgksu/libgksu.desc: * updated libgksu (1.3.6 -> 1.3.7)
21:20 < CIA-9> aldas * r14014 /trunk/package/gnome2/libgksuui/libgksuui.desc: * updated libgksuui (1.0.6 -> 1.0.7)
21:20 < Baldzius> LMJ: not me
21:20 < LMJ> i'm trying
21:20 < LMJ> ;)
21:21 < Baldzius> good luck :)
21:21 < LMJ> :-/
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22:06 < MisterN> hi
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22:20 < rxr> re
22:28 < Baldzius> rxr: can i update nfs-utils 1.0.7 -> 1.0.8-rc1 ??
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22:43 < owl> moin
22:52 < misl> rxr: is t2 capable of building inside a chroot jail?
22:54 < misl> I'd better crawl into bed now, I come back on the subject later.
22:54 < misl> sleep well all.
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23:31 < valentin> what was the operator again to printf a '%' ? was it %% ?
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23:39 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0 RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Give us a greeting and don't hesitate to ask any questions you have :-)
23:39 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Fri Nov 11 21:33:14 2005]
23:39 [Users #t2]
23:39 [ _Ragnar_] [ dalibor] [ kristian] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ]
23:39 [ Baldzius] [ jsaw ] [ LMJ ] [ mtr_ ] [ valentin]
23:39 [ CIA-9 ] [ karasz ] [ MisterN ] [ owl ] [ Xenos ]
23:39 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal]
23:39 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004
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23:41 < MisterN> n8
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