--- Log opened Wed Dec 07 00:00:16 2005 01:49 -!- ojh [n=omer@70-56-252-149.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #t2 04:27 -!- kristian [i=kristian@62.4.70.142] has joined #t2 04:29 < kristian> just wantetd to tell you that you are the best, i think i am going to use hotplug++ - since i am really pissed by all that hotplug and dbus stuff which is just unusable for embedded systems. keep that good work! :-) 04:34 < kristian> though i still have to test it - since it is not really finished. is it? - i need an aoutomount feature for mmc/sd in an backported sd-2.6.12 environment. 05:24 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.197.145.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 05:38 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.198.207.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:08 < ojh> Announce: Initial specifications, design and mockup for the Zirconium Desktop Environment are public at http://zirconium.xisystems.net/ 07:25 -!- ojh [n=omer@70-56-252-149.eugn.qwest.net] has left #t2 [] 07:27 -!- ojh [n=omer@70-56-252-149.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #t2 07:27 -!- ojh [n=omer@70-56-252-149.eugn.qwest.net] has left #t2 [] 07:48 -!- ojh [n=omer@70-56-252-149.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #t2 08:26 -!- ojh [n=omer@70-56-252-149.eugn.qwest.net] has left #t2 [] 08:27 -!- mipe [n=mipe@k170.ip2.netikka.fi] has joined #t2 08:50 < rxr> re 08:51 < rxr> Demian: mnemoc: current subversion can lock documents 08:57 < mipe> http://85.157.36.170:5901/regressions/desktop/regressions.html 09:02 < mipe> hmm, thats wierd, librep finds ncurses during configure but not on build stage 09:04 -!- mubex_ [n=mubex@64.237.246.175] has joined #t2 09:25 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.241.55] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:36 < kristian> 'morning guys 09:38 < kristian> rxr can you give me a short status info on hotplug++? - is it usable? can it be used to automount devices? 09:45 < rxr> yes useable - we use it in trunk for over half a year now including commecrial projects 09:45 * rxr breakfast and off to office - cu then 09:45 -!- geekitus [n=geekitus@d213-103-228-167.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #t2 09:49 < kristian> cu 09:59 -!- VEXation [n=stealth@80.240.209.21] has joined #t2 10:07 -!- Xenos [n=stealth@80.240.209.21] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 10:30 -!- mipe_ [n=mipe@k170.ip2.netikka.fi] has joined #t2 10:43 -!- mipe [n=mipe@k170.ip2.netikka.fi] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:53 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:15 * VEXation is back (gone 01:16:24) 11:18 -!- VEXation [n=stealth@80.240.209.21] has quit ["There is intelligent life out there..."] 11:18 -!- Xenos [n=stealth@80.240.209.21] has joined #t2 11:44 -!- antimac [n=argon@dslb-084-060-033-226.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #t2 11:45 * Xenos welcomes all 11:52 < kristian> hi Xenos 11:52 < Xenos> hello, kristian :) 11:52 < Xenos> new t2-user? 11:52 < Xenos> ;) 11:52 < Xenos> i didn't remember u 11:53 < kristian> maybe an hotplug++ user soon. - after i fixed my kernel. ;) 11:53 < kristian> Xenos well i am in university with rxr and when i read about hotplug++ i just came in. 11:53 < Xenos> heh, nice :) 11:54 < Xenos> u r welcome :> 11:55 < rxr> kristian: you are on my uni ? 12:52 -!- rene [n=rene@e178173069.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 12:52 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0 RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Give us a greeting and don't hesitate to ask any questions you have :-) 12:52 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Fri Nov 11 21:33:14 2005] 12:52 [Users #t2] 12:52 [ _Ragnar_] [ geekitus] [ mipe_ ] [ mubex_] [ SerWou ] 12:52 [ antimac ] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ owl ] [ sparc-kly[WORK]] 12:52 [ CIA-9 ] [ karasz ] [ mtr ] [ rene ] [ valentin ] 12:52 [ Demian ] [ kristian] [ mtr_ ] [ sepp_ ] [ Xenos ] 12:52 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 20 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 20 normal] 12:52 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 12:52 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 1 secs 12:52 -!- [freenode-info] If you're at a conference, please contact freenode staff to make sure we've made special allowance for many users coming into our network from a single internet address ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp ). 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Thanks! --- Log closed Wed Dec 07 12:52:39 2005 --- Log opened Wed Dec 07 12:55:29 2005 12:55 -!- mtr [n=Michael@p54AFC19D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:55 -!- You're now known as rxr 12:58 -!- mipe_ [n=mipe@k170.ip2.netikka.fi] has quit ["leaving"] 13:06 < CIA-9> rene * r13803 /trunk/package/base/automake/parse-config: * do not run config.guess check for sysfiles 13:09 < owl> moin 13:14 < Xenos> moin, owl 13:18 < karasz> hello owlita :) 13:18 < owl> hi karasz , Xenos 13:33 -!- VX [n=stealth@80.240.209.21] has joined #t2 13:33 -!- Demian [n=demian@201.206.44.210] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:57 -!- VX [n=stealth@80.240.209.21] has quit ["There is intelligent life out there..."] 14:07 -!- mubex_ is now known as sparc-kly 14:20 -!- demian [n=demian@201.206.44.210] has joined #t2 14:24 < demian> hi 14:24 < mnemoc> moin 14:25 < mnemoc> rxr: https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/smadm.cgi?i=2005120713245513037 14:26 < demian> at what hour did i quit from here? (read error) 14:27 < mnemoc> i have daily reconnections every 27h 14:27 < mnemoc> rxr: i think fixing .la to honor .a relocation is better than keeping .a at /lib. 14:28 < rxr> mnemoc: hm 14:28 < rxr> mnemoc: ok - so I revert the removal of this code in trunk and add a generic sed translation ? 14:29 < mnemoc> rxr: feels fine 14:29 < rxr> 2005120714241530817 [by netrunner] 14:29 < rxr> 14:29 < rxr> Andreas V. Meier: 14:29 < rxr> add hal 14:29 < mnemoc> :) 14:29 < rxr> hehe - half a year after t2 ... 14:29 < rxr> 2005120713502813504 [by netrunner] 14:29 < rxr> 14:29 < rxr> Andreas V. Meier: 14:29 < rxr> add dbus 14:29 < rxr> whohoo 14:29 < mnemoc> their users base is every day smaller 14:29 < Xenos> rxr: t2 rules the world 14:30 < Xenos> :) 14:30 < Xenos> hi mnemoc, rxr 14:30 < mnemoc> hi vixen 14:30 < Xenos> hmmm :) 14:30 < Xenos> mnemoc: nice idea to change my nick 14:30 < Xenos> :) 14:31 < mnemoc> :) 14:31 < Xenos> :( 14:31 < CIA-9> rene * r13804 /trunk/package/network/whois/whois.desc: * updated whois (4.7.8 -> 4.7.9) 14:31 < Xenos> /msg nickserv info vixen 14:31 < Xenos> =((( 14:31 < demian> Xenos: ? 14:31 < Xenos> this nick is already registered.. 14:32 < mnemoc> Senos: is VX also registered? 14:32 < Xenos> VX is mine :) 14:32 < Xenos> heh, ok, i'll be VX 14:32 < demian> doing some stats at #commits, mono gentoo and gnome are the projects with more commited changes i think. 14:33 < Xenos> =NickServ= Linked Nicknames (first is master): 14:33 < Xenos> =NickServ= 1) Xenos 14:33 < Xenos> =NickServ= 2) VX 14:33 < Xenos> =NickServ= The master nickname for your link has been changed to [VX] 14:33 < Xenos> :) 14:35 < demian> i have around a year without change freenode services or account info i think. are there new features that one could appreciate ? 14:35 -!- Xenos is now known as VX 14:35 < VX> :> 14:35 < CIA-9> rene * r13805 /trunk/package/network/curl/curl.desc: * updated curl (7.15.0 -> 7.15.1) 14:35 < VX> hi, mnemoc 14:36 < VX> :) 14:36 < VX> hi, rxr 14:37 < mnemoc> hi vixen 14:37 < VX> :) 14:37 < karasz> hi mnemoc 14:37 < VX> hi karasz 14:37 < mnemoc> hi karasz 14:37 < VX> :) 14:37 < VX> :))))))))))) 14:37 < VX> nice 14:37 < CIA-9> rene * r13806 /trunk/package/printing/cups-pdf/ (AllAnonUser.patch ForcedUserpatch): 14:37 < CIA-9> * removed the AllAnonUser.patch for cups-pdf and implemented a more 14:37 < CIA-9> universally useful ForcedUser option that allows enforing any 14:37 < CIA-9> user including the AnonUser if a invalid one is enforced and 14:37 < CIA-9> AnonUser allowed 14:37 < demian> VX is cool. 14:38 < VX> :) 14:38 < VX> hi demian 14:39 < demian> hi VX 14:43 < rxr> ouhm - damned the last commit patch is misnamed ... 14:43 * rxr should Build-Pkg the patchse I do ... 14:43 < rxr> f*ck 14:43 < mnemoc> ForcedUserpatch... very osX name 14:44 < rxr> the name of the option 14:44 < rxr> just the dot missing 14:44 < rxr> the rest if sine 14:44 < rxr> is fine 14:44 < mnemoc> *g* 14:45 < rxr> mnemoc: aporpos the first patches for the new dual core Macs hit my inbox 14:45 < mnemoc> :D 14:46 < karasz> :D 14:46 < rxr> but as far as I heared the fans will spinn at full speed and thus very loudly until fan control is implemented ... 14:46 < rxr> but I try to boot it this evening / night 14:46 < rxr> first contract work .. 14:49 < CIA-9> rene * r13807 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/etc/cups/cups-pdf.conf: 14:49 < CIA-9> * changed the archivista target to preconfigure the new ForcedUser 14:49 < CIA-9> option of cups-pdf and print PostScript instread of PDF that can 14:49 < CIA-9> be post-processed using ghostscript 14:50 < CIA-9> rene * r13808 /trunk/package/printing/cups-pdf/ (ForcedUser.patch ForcedUserpatch): * renamed the cups-pdf/ForcedUserpatch to include a dot 14:55 < CIA-9> rene * r13809 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/status.sh: * added the mail server to the archivista status overview 15:21 < CIA-9> rene * r13810 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/cups-setup.sh: * changed archivista/cups-setup.sh, now we use a raw queue in cups 15:25 < CIA-9> rene * r13811 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/.fluxbox/keys: * added alt-tab window toggling to archivista 15:34 < CIA-9> rene * r13812 /trunk/target/archivista/kernel.conf.sh: 15:34 < CIA-9> * disabled eth1394 for the archivista target since we do not want to let 15:34 < CIA-9> it accidently take over eth0 15:35 < rxr> mnemoc: any proposal for a tiny as possible mail command line tool that sends mail directly to the smtp server of the specified "To:" ? 15:36 < mnemoc> uhm 15:37 < mnemoc> why directly? 15:37 < rxr> archivista box mail notifications - as least setup possible and least stuff that can break over time 15:38 < mnemoc> nullmailer + smtp auth & archivista? 15:38 < mnemoc> s/\&/@/ 15:39 < rxr> amtp auth ? 15:39 < rxr> smtp 15:40 < rxr> optionally a mail server (I choose exim because I know it best) can be setup on the box anyway to inject content via mail into the database 15:40 < mnemoc> i mean nullmailer set on archivista box 15:41 < rxr> though I configured it to accept mail for any domain by default - so one does not need to perform setup taks for the mail server 15:41 < mnemoc> to deliver via smtp-auth to a fixed smtp-auth server on archivista 15:41 < rxr> and the mail can sent to whatever domain an internal nameserver might point to 15:41 < mnemoc> uhm 15:42 < rxr> I wonder if the user should rather specify some domain setup so I can use exim to send mail out ... 15:42 < rxr> damn 15:42 < mnemoc> btw, the best command line mail client is 'nail' 15:42 < rxr> video recorder a-like setup for a full blown document management solution in a box is quite - well - non-sraightforward ... 15:42 < mnemoc> http://nail.sourceforge.net/ 15:42 < rxr> this old BSD something thing ? 15:43 < mnemoc> nope 15:43 -!- VX [n=stealth@80.240.209.21] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 15:43 < mnemoc> it even has bayesian spam control and off-line imap :) 15:43 < rxr> upports SMTP to send messages directly to a remote server. 15:43 < rxr> ^- neat 15:43 < rxr> so nail and let it deliver the mail that way 15:43 < rxr> should work, right ? 15:44 < mnemoc> yes 15:44 < rxr> # ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg nail 15:44 < rxr> checking nail ... Not installed. Added. 15:44 < rxr> Packages scheduled to build: nail 15:44 < rxr> cool 15:44 < rxr> even packaged ,-) 15:45 < mnemoc> :) 15:47 < rxr> nail is derived from Berkeley Mail 15:47 < rxr> 15:42 < rxr> this old BSD something thing ? 15:47 < rxr> so yes 15:47 < mnemoc> yes, but it's not mailx 15:47 < mnemoc> it's far more 15:47 < rxr> when I want far less ... 15:48 < rxr> but well - aynthing that does just send via smtp is taken ... 15:49 < mnemoc> having a fixed smtp/smtp-auth server, nullmailer+mailx is the best choice 15:49 < rxr> ahm - nail wants a smtp server 15:50 < rxr> that is not what I need - I wanted to sent to the MX record server not to some gateway 15:50 < mnemoc> mail++ 15:50 < rxr> mail++? 15:50 < mnemoc> @exactcode.de 15:50 < rxr> google or I should start coding ? 15:50 < rxr> haha - no thanks ,-) 15:50 < mnemoc> :) 15:50 < rxr> # mine -rf nail 15:50 < rxr> bash: mine: command not found 15:51 < rxr> I love this archivista box - free of legacy ,-) 15:51 < mnemoc> o.o 15:51 < mnemoc> :) 15:51 < mnemoc> bize ? 15:51 < rxr> cut -d ' ' -f 2 /var/adm/flists/nail | xargs rm -v 15:51 < rxr> mnemoc: it is a live cd with complete system install - no package manager at all 15:51 < mnemoc> expectable 15:52 < rxr> cut -d ' ' -f 2 /var/adm/flists/nail | xargs rm -vr <- for googlers ... 15:52 < rxr> so - darn 15:52 < rxr> what do I do with this mail thingy ... 15:52 < rxr> I think just configure exim to a fixed domain and thus let it send out mail just fine ... 15:53 < mnemoc> why not nullmailer? 15:53 < rxr> I do not want another complex daemon and on exactcode.de I have the problem that it dies sometimes from sysv init ... 15:54 < mnemoc> nullmailer is designed to run supervised 15:54 < rxr> that is why sometimes (mostly after power-down reboots) nullmailer is fucked up there ... 15:54 < mnemoc> ok, exim. 15:54 < rxr> mnemoc: so what? for true 15:54 < rxr> loop in nullmailer.init ? 15:54 < rxr> I had no spare time and fun to track that ... 15:55 < mnemoc> uhm... 15:55 < mnemoc> the problem on the loop is how to stop it 15:55 < rxr> 2005-12-07 15:54:10 1Ek0g4-0004bx-24 ** rene@exactcode.de R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp: SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:: host mx1.exactcode.de [212.202.42.30]: 550-Verification failed for \n550-Unrouteable address\n550 Sender verify failed 15:55 < rxr> 2005-12-07 15:54:10 1Ek0gM-0004c3-FU <= <> R=1Ek0g4-0004bx-24 U=exim P=local S=1246 15:55 < rxr> 2005-12-07 15:54:10 1Ek0gM-0004c3-FU ** root@localhost: Unrouteable address 15:56 < rxr> ok - my own mail server is too strict to take such bare messags without a real domain in it ... 15:57 -!- VX [n=stealth@80.240.209.21] has joined #t2 15:58 < mnemoc> nullmailer use 'me' 'defaultdomain' and 'defaulthost' config files 16:02 < rxr> i know 16:03 < mnemoc> :) 16:04 < rxr> that was sent via exim 16:07 < mnemoc> why archivista.ch can't provide smtp to their clients? 16:07 < rxr> the clients are world wide and it can be security related 16:07 < rxr> you don't want to let those mails go half around the world when it is just backup or so notifications for in-house use 16:08 < mnemoc> ok 16:08 < mnemoc> and what about asking for an smtp during installation? 16:11 < rxr> mnemoc: I think I go nullmailer 16:12 < rxr> and yes, there is various setup in the right click desktop menu 16:12 < rxr> if setup is needed it goes there 16:12 < rxr> but you know joe users, I want it as least breakable and dumb as possible otherwise those joes will not garsp it ... 16:13 < mnemoc> default smtp at archivista.ch, 'advanced' users can change it to a closer one? 16:13 < rxr> I doubt they want to provide a mail relay ... 16:13 < mnemoc> smtp at archivista.ch can pre-pend a text reminding users to change their smtp 16:14 < mnemoc> just to have a working default. 16:28 < CIA-9> amery * r13813 /trunk/package/perl/perl-io-zlib/ (. perl-io-zlib.desc): * added perl-io-zlib (1.04) - IO:: style interface to Compress::Zlib 16:29 < CIA-9> amery * r13814 /trunk/package/perl/perl-archive-tar/ (. perl-archive-tar.desc): * added perl-archive-tar (1.26) - perl module for manipulations of tar archives 16:36 -!- VX [n=stealth@80.240.209.21] has quit ["There is intelligent life out there..."] 16:48 -!- VX [n=stealth@80.240.209.21] has joined #t2 16:48 < VX> hi all again :) 16:54 < rxr> hi VX 17:06 < demian> wb VX 17:10 < rxr> damn - just pulled the wrong, outdated ppc64 git tree .. 17:10 < rxr> damn - how I hate git fluff ... 17:11 < mnemoc> are you using the helper? 17:11 < mnemoc> or git-* ? 17:12 < rxr> git 17:12 < rxr> and I only clone, I'll never use it to manage or contribute code 17:12 < rxr> I'll not waste my precious time with this crappy versioning wannabe .. 17:13 < mnemoc> cogito makes it usable 17:13 < mnemoc> at least a bit more :) 17:14 < rxr> I only want to try out code - the people can get a unified diff if I work on code 17:15 < rxr> something less usable then subversion is not for me 17:15 < rxr> the only other thing is SANE CVS, where I have to push my code in a few times a year 17:15 -!- jsaw [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:15 -!- jsaw [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 17:15 < rxr> and my intermediate code is in a svn repository ... 17:15 < rxr> until they move to SVN they get a multple hundred kB CVS commit every quater ... 17:17 < demian> need a free svn repository server for some days, know about one? 17:17 < demian> not for opensource projects. 17:18 < rxr> berlios or gnu savanah 17:18 < rxr> if it is something for the public you can get one on http://svn.exactcode.de 17:18 < rxr> if it is not for the public you can use it locally on file:///... 17:18 < demian> ok, it will be public but encripted then, thanks. 17:19 < demian> i want it to be hosted on internet to allow access from several locations.. just as a back up repository really. 17:27 < rxr> hm 17:27 < rxr> damn - our x86 kernel lack apple partition support and thus I can not inject files onto the powermac mounted via firewire with the big box in target disk mode ... - damn 17:29 < rxr> I also wonder why I get two firewire devices - think the mac only has one HD ... 17:29 < rxr> strange 17:29 < mnemoc> fully modular? ,-) 17:37 < mnemoc> build/ref-2.1-stable-x86-pentium4-generic/var/adm/flists/dbus:dbus: usr/lib/mono/gac/dbus-sharp/0.33.0.0__9eef2692033670f5/dbus-sharp.dll 17:37 < mnemoc> ^--- yuck 17:46 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.218.218.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:49 < mnemoc> rxr: any news about morfoh? 18:24 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr 18:26 < rxr> mnemoc: nope 18:32 -!- geekitus [n=geekitus@d213-103-228-167.cust.tele2.fr] has quit ["Parti"] 18:37 < karasz> cu tommorow 18:37 < karasz> bye 18:39 < rxr> re 18:45 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68.5.1 [Firefox 1.5/undefined]"] 19:01 -!- VX [n=stealth@80.240.209.21] has quit ["There is intelligent life out there..."] 19:04 -!- VX [n=stealth@80.240.209.21] has joined #t2 19:06 < demian> bye 19:36 < rxr> setjump stuff in dietlibc is broken on ppc64 :-(/ 19:37 < rxr> pdksh fails to built with it ... 19:38 -!- VX [n=stealth@80.240.209.21] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 19:39 -!- demian [n=demian@201.206.44.210] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:45 < mnemoc> fefe would be glad to receive your fixes :) 19:47 < rxr> right now I would be glad about a life-sign from him 19:48 < rxr> I sent some stuff without answer and there is no mail on the dietlibc list from him for months ... 19:48 < rxr> quite annoying 19:48 -!- VX [n=stealth@80.240.209.21] has joined #t2 19:48 < mnemoc> oh 19:50 < rxr> if more people in berlin start to disappear I should move soon to another city ... 19:50 < rxr> however fefe did other stuff - e.g. some netboot howto on his homepage 19:51 < rxr> so he is at least doing something 19:51 < rxr> though I wonder why anyone with his knowledge would publish a PAX howto ... 19:54 * rxr grabbing the next git tree 19:54 < rxr> damn kernel development 19:55 < rxr> where one never knows what strange freeky tree people use the day (tm) and the usual git war ... 19:56 < rxr> soon 20 git trees will consume more psace on the HD than the two t2 trees with it's associated downloads ... 19:58 < mnemoc> development administrations i hate: mozilla, ooo, eclipse, linux, glibc. 19:58 < rxr> dietlibc is not on the list ? *g* 19:59 < mnemoc> single-man-projects are excluded :) 20:01 < CIA-9> amery * r13815 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtk-sharp2/gtk-sharp2.desc: * downdated gtk-sharp2 (2.5.92 -> 2.4.0) - no reason to use an old development branch (current is 2.7.1 anyway) 20:07 -!- VX [n=stealth@80.240.209.21] has quit ["There is intelligent life out there..."] 20:08 -!- VX [n=stealth@80.240.209.21] has joined #t2 20:30 < mnemoc> rxr: perl needs bdb available to build DB_File, but perl is built on stage 3 and bdb on stage 5. suggestions? 20:31 < mnemoc> rxr: move packages needed DB_File to stage 7? 20:31 < mnemoc> needing* 20:37 < mnemoc> does fefe really beliave in this? http://www.xenu.net/archive/leaflet/Xenu-A4.pdf 20:39 < mnemoc> rxr: and the last question, what's the module that emulates oss over alsa? 20:39 < _Ragnar_> re 20:40 < mnemoc> wb _Ragnar_ 20:40 < _Ragnar_> thx mnemoc ;) 20:41 < _Ragnar_> move bdb to 3 and build before perl? 20:42 < _Ragnar_> or is that another can of worms? 20:44 < mnemoc> X ---3---7-- 104.400 perl perl 5.8.6 / base/development DIETLIBC NOPARALLEL FPIC-QUIRK 0 20:44 < mnemoc> O -----5---- 104.700 database bdb33 3.3.11 / base/library 0 20:44 < mnemoc> X -----5---- 107.000 database bdb 4.3.28 / base/library 0 20:45 < mnemoc> i would like to move bdb before perl on stage 3.... but i'm not sure about the problems it may produce 20:45 < CIA-9> amery * r13816 /branches/2.1/package/perl/ (6 files in 2 dirs): 20:45 < CIA-9> * merged 13814 from trunk: added perl-archive-tar (1.26) - perl module for manipulations of tar archives 20:45 < CIA-9> * merged 13813 from trunk: added perl-io-zlib (1.04) - IO:: style interface to Compress::Zlib 20:53 < rxr> mnemoc: hm - move perl to stage 5 I would say 20:53 < rxr> snd-pxm-oss 20:53 < rxr> snd-mixer-oss 20:54 < rxr> mnemoc: yeah - or add bdb there ... 20:54 < mnemoc> moving bdb to 3-104.300 seems safer than pushing perl to stage 5 20:55 < rxr> well - perl was there for linux and suxh 20:55 < rxr> however in the meantime we build a cross perl in stage 1 ... 20:55 < rxr> but leaving it in stage 3 is indeed safer 21:02 < CIA-9> rene * r13817 /trunk/package/network/vblade/vblade.desc: * updated vblade (9 -> 10) 21:14 < rxr> GCC 3.4.5 has been released 21:14 < mnemoc> 2.1.2 :) 21:15 < rxr> ack 21:15 < mnemoc> rxr: did builddir php patch actually moved the files into the right dir? 21:16 < rxr> I think so 21:16 < rxr> doesn't it work for you ? 21:16 < mnemoc> Installing build environment: /usr/lib/php/build/ 21:16 < mnemoc> i get that ---^ 21:16 < mnemoc> but flist inside the files are misslocated 21:16 < mnemoc> insist* 21:16 < rxr> hm 21:31 < mnemoc> .oO( why xscreensaver depends on everything? )o 21:32 < _Ragnar_> I asked myself that, too 21:45 < mnemoc> jsaw,rxr: does rockplug honor modprobe.conf ? somehow i can't re-do what alsaconf set 21:55 < CIA-9> amery * r13818 /branches/2.1/package/ (7 files in 7 dirs): (log message trimmed) 21:55 < CIA-9> * updated gtk-sharp2 (1.9.5 -> 2.4.0) 21:55 < CIA-9> * merged 11821,12884,13433 from trunk: updated mono (1.1.8.3 -> 1.1.10) 21:55 < CIA-9> * merged 11822,12887,13435 from trunk: updated mod_mono (1.0.9 -> 1.1.10) 21:55 < CIA-9> * merged 11823,12886,13434 from trunk: updated mono-xsp (1.0.9 -> 1.1.10) 21:55 < CIA-9> * merged 12885,13437 from trunk: updated mono-doc (1.0.7 -> 1.1.10) 21:55 < CIA-9> * merged 12882 from trunk: updated gtkmozembed-sharp (0.10 -> 0.11) 22:06 < rxr> mnemoc: ? rockplug only calls modprobe - of course that does ue modprobe.conf 22:06 < mnemoc> that's what i thought... 22:07 < mnemoc> lsmod before and after alsaconf are identical 22:07 < mnemoc> but before alsaconf audio doesn't work, but after it does. 22:09 < CIA-9> amery * r13819 /branches/2.1/package/powerpc/mac-fdisk/install-man.patch: * fixed mac-fdisk to install man pages, forgotten on r13742 22:14 < mnemoc> rxr: did you notice emacs is broken on 2.1? http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/stable/log/5-emacs.err.txt 22:15 * VX is away: dropped to bed.. -_- 22:16 < VX> 'night all ;) 22:16 < mnemoc> gn8 vixen 22:41 < CIA-9> amery * r13820 /branches/2.1/package/xfce4/xfmedia/ (. xfmedia.desc xfmedia.desc): * merged 13312 from trunk: added xfmedia (0.9.1) 22:54 < CIA-9> amery * r13821 /trunk/package/gnome2/gst-editor/gst-editor.desc: * fixed gst-editor's [U] 22:59 < rxr> netbooting Apple's stinks 22:59 < CIA-9> amery * r13822 /trunk/package/zope/cpssharedcalendar/ (. cpssharedcalendar.desc): * added cpssharedcalendar (1.0.0) - An advanced, flexible calendaring component for CPS3 22:59 < rxr> sgi is way more comfortable and pleasant experience 23:02 < rxr> how often do I build software on my router: 23:02 < rxr> Found 707 new/updated files in source tree: 23:02 < rxr> -> ** list truncated to save space on the terminal ** 23:03 < mnemoc> :) 23:07 < rxr> ah - so - finally 23:07 < rxr> netloaded yaboot on the dual core box 23:07 < rxr> (and I should be long in bed=) 23:07 * rxr wonders where valentin was today ... 23:08 < mnemoc> can you sleep with that fan? 23:09 < rxr> mnemoc: I have 2 rooms in my flat 23:09 < rxr> I never sleep near the roaring rs6k and athlon 23:10 < rxr> not to speak when the ultra sparc 30 or sgi Octane is up ... 23:10 < mnemoc> what's more noisy? 23:14 < rxr> when the new g5 falls back into emergency "all fans on" mode (due to no update of fan controls for 2minutes or so) it is the louded 23:14 < rxr> the sgi octane and sparc are equally noisy - followed by the rs6k and athlon 23:15 * rxr bad 23:15 * rxr bed 23:15 < rxr> n8 all 23:15 < mnemoc> gn8 rxr 23:20 < CIA-9> amery * r13823 /trunk/package/zope/cpssharedcalendar/cpssharedcalendar.desc: * updated cpssharedcalendar (1.0.0 -> 1.3.3) --- Log closed Thu Dec 08 00:00:40 2005