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00:00 < CIA-11> amery * r13783 /trunk/package/graphic/texturize/texturize.desc: * fixed texturize's [U]
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00:05 < sepp> oops sorry for the outdated [U] :/
00:08 < mnemoc> :)
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08:27 < mtr> moin
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11:45 < rxr> re
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11:58 -!- Topic for #t2:  T2 | 2.1.0 RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Give us a greeting and don't hesitate to ask any questions you have :-)
11:58 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Fri Nov 11 21:33:14 2005]
11:58 [Users #t2]
11:58 [ _Ragnar_] [ geekitus] [ owl ] [ sepp           ] [ valentin] 
11:58 [ CIA-11  ] [ mnemoc  ] [ rxr ] [ SerWou         ] [ VEXation] 
11:58 [ demian  ] [ mtr     ] [ rxr_] [ sparc-kly[WORK]] 
11:58 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal]
11:58 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug  8 21:15:33 2004
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12:25 < rxr> hi sepp_ 
12:25 < CIA-11> rene * r13784 /trunk/package/network/bittorrent/bittorrent.desc: * updated bittorrent (4.2.0 -> 4.2.1)
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12:37 < sepp_> hi rxr
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12:55 < karasz> hi
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13:54 < jsaw> re
13:56 < CIA-11> rene * r13785 /trunk/package/base/sysfiles/ (etc_conf_sound.txt etc_group.txt): 
13:56 < CIA-11> * removed obsole SOUND_SYSTEM config file (there is only ALSA in the
13:56 < CIA-11>  future) and renamed the sound group to audio to match other
13:56 < CIA-11>  distributions and thus avoid our own config tweks, such as udev
13:56 < CIA-11>  and alsarc
13:58 < jsaw> oh, X11R7 RC3...
14:05 < rxr> oh - that will fix the cirrus "not applying patch" since it was accpeted upstream ;-)
14:05  * rxr running auto-update
14:06 < jsaw> :)
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14:57 < owl> moin
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15:26 < CIA-11> rene * r13786 /trunk/package/audio/icecast/icecast.desc: * updated icecast (2.3.0 -> 2.3.1)
15:26 < CIA-11> rene * r13787 /trunk/package/audio/bio2jack/bio2jack.desc: * updated bio2jack (0.7 -> 0.8)
15:27 < rxr> moin owl 
15:30 < CIA-11> rene * r13788 /trunk/package/xorg/ (270 files in 269 dirs): (log message trimmed)
15:30 < CIA-11> * updated xorg to X11R7 RC3, including:
15:30 < CIA-11> * updated xlsfonts (0.99.1 -> 0.99.2)
15:30 < CIA-11> * updated fslsfonts (0.99.1 -> 0.99.2)
15:30 < CIA-11> * updated xfd (0.99.1 -> 0.99.2)
15:30 < CIA-11> * updated xkill (0.99.1 -> 0.99.2)
15:30 < CIA-11> * updated libxtrap (0.99.1 -> 0.99.2)
15:42 < owl> hi rxr 
15:42 < jsaw> hi owl 
15:43 < owl> hi jsaw 
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16:00 < CIA-11> rene * r13789 /trunk/package/graphic/ogre3d/ogre3d.desc: * updated ogre3d (1.0-5 -> 1.0-6)
16:01 < demian> re
16:05 < rxr> hi demian 
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17:26 < jsaw> cu later
17:32 < rxr> cu jsaw 
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18:07  * Xenos is away: ...
18:59  * Xenos is back (gone 00:52:19)
19:07 < rxr> hi
19:07 < Xenos> hello, rxr :)
19:07 < _Ragnar_> hi rene
19:08  * Xenos wanna see the scrpage :>
19:12 < Demian> wb rxr 
19:24 < Demian> bye
19:25  * karasz sends everybody a chocolate St. Nicholas :)
19:26 < Xenos> :)
19:26  * karasz lookin' for boots...
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20:18 < misl> hi folks
20:21 < Xenos> hi, misl 
20:22 < misl> hi Xenos
20:23 < rxr> hi misl 
20:23 < misl> hi rxr
20:30 < mnemoc> moin
20:31 < rxr> moin mnemoc 
20:33 < mnemoc> hi rxr 
20:33 < mnemoc> hi misl, Xenos 
20:33 < Xenos> :))
20:33 < Xenos> hi, mnemoc 
20:34 < Xenos> nice greetings
20:34 < Xenos> )
20:34 < mnemoc> uhm?
20:34 < Xenos> mnemoc: how r u?
20:34 < Xenos> :)
20:34 < mnemoc> big headache
20:34 < mnemoc> and you?
20:34 < Xenos> :?
20:34 < Xenos> :/
20:34 < Xenos> me? fine..
20:35 < mnemoc> your nick sounds funny in spanish
20:36 < misl> hi mnemoc
20:36 < Xenos> mnemoc: ? :)
20:36 < Xenos> what does it mean?
20:37 < mnemoc> tits
20:37 < mnemoc> :)
20:37 < Xenos> lol
20:37 < Xenos> :))
20:37 < misl> hehe, in the netherlands we have a shop called Xenos
20:37 < mnemoc> closer to 'boobs' anyway
20:38 < mnemoc> misl: what does it sell?
20:38 < misl> home stuff, candles, pottery
20:38 < misl> no tits :(
20:39 < rxr> .oO
20:43 < _Ragnar_> who wants tits anyway?
20:43 < mnemoc> bah
20:43  * karasz sends everybody a chocolate St. Nicholas :)
20:43  * karasz lookin' for boots...
20:43 < karasz> hi mnemoc rxr misl :)
20:43 < misl> karasz: Do you have St. Nicholas over there?
20:43 < misl> hi karasz
20:44 < karasz> yup
20:44 < Xenos> hello karasz 
20:44 < Xenos> :)
20:44 < karasz> hi mr boobs ;)
20:44 < misl> Do you celebrate it like Santa Claus?
20:44 < Xenos> mnemoc, misl - time to be VX :)
20:44 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: i prefer tits, no hairy legs :p
20:44 < karasz> misl: kinda
20:44 < Xenos> VX is my 2nd nick.. :)
20:44 < CIA-1> rene * r13790 /trunk/package/shells/zsh/zsh.desc: * updated zsh (4.2.5 -> 4.2.6)
20:44 < misl> karasz: We celebrate it big time here in the Netherlands
20:45 < karasz> misl: it is a little jumbo mumbo here beetween Santa and St Nicholas...
20:45 < misl> Xenos: like Vixen?
20:45 < Xenos> :)))
20:45 < Xenos> no
20:45 < Xenos> just VX
20:45  * _Ragnar_ hands mnemocs wife a lady shaver
20:45  * karasz hides
20:45 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: :p
20:48 < karasz> rxr how is going with G5?
20:48  * karasz un-hides
20:48 < Xenos> mnemoc: how is going with 2.1.1 ? :>>>>
20:48  * Xenos hides
20:48 < Xenos> :)
20:49 < karasz> misl: here is more like a kid's holyday
20:50 < karasz> the real one is Santa Claus
20:50 < rxr> karasz: the G5 is not going far, since not yet supported by the linux kernel .-(((
20:50 < karasz> btw misl i liked your other nick more
20:51 < rxr> I wait for benh doing some hardware init tweaks as soon as he gets the box as well - in some days I hope ...
20:51 < karasz> no patch yet?
20:51 < karasz> ohum
20:51 < karasz> i see
20:52 < karasz> but isn't G5 supported by YelowDog?
20:52  * karasz checks
20:53 < mnemoc> Xenos: i have some bugs to fix... and 9 broken packages from desktop on x86_64
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20:53 < Xenos> hm.. ok.. i just asked..
20:53 < mnemoc> Xenos: http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/stable
20:54 < karasz> hihi
20:54 < mnemoc> glabels, planner and gdesklets are simple if you want to send the patch :)
20:54 < mnemoc> hi karasz 
20:54 < karasz> is supported but not o_O
20:54 < karasz> http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/support/hardware/breakdown/index.php?hw_cat_id=9
20:54 < rxr> G5 yes
20:54 < Xenos> mnemoc: i see.. :/
20:54 < rxr> not the dual core ones ...
20:55 < rxr> they are new - only some weeks old 
20:55 < mnemoc> master benh doesn't have a patch?
20:55 < rxr> the iMac, old single and dual G5 PowerMacs and so on work
20:55 < rxr> mnemoc: not yet
20:55 < rxr> mnemoc: he wrote he is waiting for the box to hit his desk to do some trial'n error cut'n pasint until it works (tm)
20:55 < mnemoc> rxr: but working on t?
20:55 < mnemoc> rxr: ic
20:55 < rxr> and that I should do something else for a week if I do not want to waste time ,-)
20:56 < mnemoc> :)
20:57 < _Ragnar_> fix trunk :)
20:57 < mnemoc> x86_64 at 2.1 is waiting for you :)
20:57 < _Ragnar_> 8)
20:58 < misl> karasz: My other nick is my real name :) but someone else uses it too.
20:58 < karasz> nice 
20:58 < karasz> minto sounds like mind in my lang...
20:59 < mnemoc> .oO( does mnemoc sound like anything on any language? )o
20:59 < karasz> dunno
20:59 < rxr> _Ragnar_: trunk looks good
20:59 < karasz> but i doubt it...
21:00 < karasz> i don't speack boshiman...
21:00 < misl> mnemoc: maybe in klingon :)
21:00 < rxr> 4161 builds total, 1850 completed fine, 110 with errors.
21:00 < _Ragnar_> klingon :)
21:00 < _Ragnar_> 1200oops
21:00 < _Ragnar_> 1850 + 110 = 4161 ? :)
21:01 < mnemoc> :D
21:01 < mnemoc> Error logs from desktop-2.1-stable-x86-64-desktop:
21:01 < mnemoc> 679 builds total, 670 completed fine, 9 with errors.
21:01 < misl> mnemoc: eclipse has lots of uname in it build scripts :(
21:02 < mnemoc> fake it
21:02 < misl> how?
21:02 < karasz> s/boshiman/bushman
21:02 < misl> fake? isn't he still on rock?
21:03 < mnemoc> making a funcion called uname :p
21:03 < mnemoc> bash will load function first
21:03 < mnemoc> misl: yes, he is at rock
21:03 < misl> are there any packages already doing this?
21:03 < karasz> mnemoc: maybe mnemoc means some really cool stuff in !Kung
21:03 < misl> for inspiration
21:03 < mnemoc> misl: i doubt
21:04 < misl> :(
21:04 < rxr> maybe rather a wrapper than just function
21:05 < mnemoc> yes, a real wrapper would be better but may be confusing
21:07 < mnemoc> misl: did you implement eclipse installer on .conf?
21:08 < misl> mnemoc: not yet, I am looking into it, but I have little time.
21:09 < misl> reference 32 bits config resulted into linux-gtk-x86_64-sdk.tar.gz
21:11 < mnemoc> o.o
21:12 < misl> I guess because it uses uname all the time.
21:12 < mnemoc> why does it ask arch then?
21:13 < misl> dunno, counted 63 calls to uname in the complete t2 source.
21:13 < mnemoc> can build.xml be fixed?
21:13 < mnemoc> o.o
21:13 < mnemoc> #eclipse :)
21:14 < mnemoc> it should use 'installArch' var
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21:37 < mnemoc> wb vixen
21:38 < VX> :)
21:38 < VX> hi
21:38 < misl> Hey Super Vixen
21:39 < VX> argh..
21:39 < VX> :/
21:39 < VX> )
21:39 < Xenos> wanna find a nice gtk2 theme!
21:40 < mnemoc> cleanlook :)
21:40 < Xenos> i want smthng extraordinary
21:40 < Xenos> :)
21:43 < Xenos> mnemoc: smthng nice found
21:43 < Xenos> http://gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=19710&file1=19710-1.png&file2=&file3=&name=g5-ish
21:44 < sepp> clearlooks that i learned is part of gtk-engines ;)
21:44 < Xenos> yep..
21:45 < mnemoc> sepp: :)
21:46 < mnemoc> too apple
21:46 < Xenos> mbmb..
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21:50 < sepp> http://art.gnome.org./themes/gtk2/1064 <- i use this one but i changed the blue to grey ...
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21:55 < mnemoc> looks nice
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22:04 < sepp> http://home.arcor.de/t2_/dark-nonblue.jpg ;)
22:05 < mnemoc> a caterpillar!
22:05 < sepp> :D
22:06 < Xenos> simple theme.. :)
22:09 < mnemoc> http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/mnemoc.png
22:09 < mnemoc> :)
22:09 < Xenos> i say yours :)
22:09 < Xenos> *saw
22:10 < mnemoc> yes? when?
22:10 < Xenos> hmm
22:10 < Xenos> i mean.. your gtk theme
22:10 < Xenos> 2 weeks ago
22:11 < mnemoc> :)
22:12 < sepp> thats a active irssi 
22:13 < mnemoc> uhm?
22:13 < sepp> on your screenshot
22:13 < rxr> hm
22:14 < rxr> pixie again caused the kernel to OOM kill half of my system .-(
22:14 < mnemoc> sepp: :)
22:14 < sepp> rxr: i updated to latest version on my laptopn but it only renders dresden at night
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22:15 < VX> nice
22:15 < rxr> sepp:  ?
22:15 < VX> but heavy theme
22:15 < VX> :/
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22:15 < sepp> rxr: even a simple sphere with default light renders 100% black image so i did not update this
22:15 < misl> Genie steh auf
22:16 < sepp> or commit because its somehow useless version
22:16 < misl> wir mussen raus aus them Wald
22:16 < rxr> sepp: no thanks - no useless versions please
22:16 < sepp> pixie 1.5.5 ...
22:16 < rxr> misl: ?
22:16 < misl> Falco on the Radio
22:16 < mnemoc> Falco?
22:16 < misl> rxr knows
22:17 < misl> I guess
22:17 < misl> It is a German singer
22:17 < rxr> misl: ah ,-)
22:17 < Xenos> :)
22:18 < karasz> Falco is good ;)
22:18 < karasz> s/is/was, but still is , you know
22:18 < sepp> rxr: no, i test all updated i make - thats why i did not updated to pixie 1.5.* ;)
22:18 < misl> Guess I am not the only one that likes this song
22:18 < karasz> and i think Austrian, not German...
22:19 < misl> Might be dunno
22:19 < karasz> Wienna ;)
22:19 < karasz> Mozart, and so on
22:19 < karasz> definitely austrian
22:20 < karasz> at least he used to live in Wienna a lot
22:21 < misl> Wien in German, Vienna in English
22:22 < mnemoc> Wienna on karasz's :)
22:22 < misl> :)
22:23 < karasz> :D
22:23 < karasz> Wienna in englman "D
22:23 < mnemoc> viena in spanish
22:23  * misl wonders what it is in Klingon
22:24 < karasz> i do not speack klingon
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22:24 < misl> me neither :)
22:24 < karasz> only  !Kung
22:24 < karasz> :D
22:24 < misl> what is !Kung?
22:24 < misl> Fu?
22:25 < karasz> nope
22:25 < karasz> http://www.ucc.uconn.edu/~epsadm03/kung.html
22:25 < mnemoc> http://soultrek.net/faq/klindictionary.htm
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22:26 < karasz> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%21Kung
22:26 < karasz> mnemoc: beated you to wikipedia :D
22:26 < mnemoc> :)
22:29 < karasz> actually y should have said Viena ;)
22:30 < misl> :)
22:30 < mnemoc> :)
22:30 < karasz> anyway regardles of me being capable of spelling Wien or not Falco was a great singer
22:30 < misl> :)
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22:32  * VX pokes mnemoc
22:32 < VX> http://art.gnome.org/preview.php?image=thumbnails/gtk2/GTK2-marble-look-Shot.png
22:32 < VX> what do u think about this?
22:32 < VX> :)
22:32 < karasz> VX poking people is wrong
22:32 < VX> karasz: ? :)
22:33 < karasz> ping is better...
22:35 < Xenos> karasz: i think, it's just for fun, isn't it?
22:35 < mnemoc> :)
22:35 < mnemoc> vixen: too dark for me
22:35 < karasz> anyway, i think pinging is somewhat more apropriate
22:36 < mnemoc> karasz: ack
22:36  * karasz thinks that he has swalowed a stick
22:36 < Xenos> :/
22:36 < mnemoc> o.o
22:36 < karasz> Xenos: feel free to ignore me
22:36 < Xenos> ?
22:37 < karasz> i had a very bad day and i think i am a little grounchi
22:37 < mnemoc> noone is ignored at #t2
22:37  * Xenos agreed with mnemoc 
22:37 < Xenos> karasz: all is ok ;>
22:38 < karasz> Xenos: i whish that it would be ok ;(
22:38 < mnemoc> #t2 deserves a sociologic study
22:38 < Xenos> :)
22:38  * Xenos pokes himself
22:39 < karasz> today i almost survived a big servers meltdown :'(
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22:42 < misl> mnemoc: Eclipse might install something now. But I have to got to bed. You can check /opt/eclipse if you like.
22:42 < misl> sleep well all.
22:43 < mnemoc> gn8 missile
22:45 < Xenos> 'night, misl 
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22:48  * misl is curious, but build still not finished.
22:48 < misl> cu all tomorrow, bye bye 
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22:59 < karasz> mnemoc: do you have something similar to St. Nicholas there?
23:00 < mnemoc> karasz: coca cola version
23:00 < karasz> ?
23:01 < mnemoc> the fat old man on red
23:01 < karasz> does anybody have a slim young girl as St. Nicholas?
23:01 < karasz> sure it is the old red man...
23:02 < mnemoc>  the old red man was invented by coca cola
23:02 < mnemoc> http://www2.coca-cola.com/heritage/cokelore_santa.html
23:02 < karasz> hmmm... 
23:02 < mnemoc> http://www.stnicholascenter.org/Brix?pageID=35
23:04 < karasz> so coca cola it is
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23:04 < karasz> same here, despite of being an orthodox country
23:05 < mnemoc> cocacola power
23:05 < karasz> yup
23:05 < rxr> awkward scrolling on that page ...
23:06 < sepp> rxr: that was a athlon-xp with 768mb ram, that died with pixie?
23:06 < rxr> 512 real 256 swap
23:07 < rxr> just comiling it btw. not running ,-)
23:07 < sepp> i tested it on my notebook - athlon-xp 512mb ram, swapoff - kernel kills g++
23:07 < sepp> yes i mean compiling
23:07 < sepp> uhm g++ bug?
23:07  * karasz hates coka cola
23:08  * karasz hates all cola and all coke
23:09 < rxr> g++ "just" eating a lot memory
23:10 < sepp> hmm but why does it kill your box?
23:10 < rxr> eating enough memory to let the kernel kill what it finds hoogs it up
23:10 < rxr> Out Of Memory ...
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23:11 < sepp> .oO
23:11 < mnemoc> that's why i build on a limited vserver :p
23:11 < rxr> Dec  5 21:33:00 haudraufinix kernel: Out of Memory: Killed process 15116 (klauncher).
23:11 < rxr> Dec  5 21:33:03 haudraufinix kernel: Out of Memory: Killed process 15134 (kwin)
23:11 < sepp> i can not reproduce that with 512mb ram and no swap
23:11 < rxr> yeah - just ignore it
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23:23 < Xenos> 'night all ;)
23:23 < karasz> gn8 Xenos 
23:23  * Xenos is away: dropped to bed
23:24 < karasz> night all
23:24 < mnemoc> gn8 Xenos, karasz 
23:43 < rxr> mnemoc: http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/t2-talk.jpg
23:44 < mnemoc> rxr: and the public?
23:44 < rxr> valentin only shoot me ... ,-)
23:45 < mnemoc> :(
23:45  * rxr did not do pics from the audience ...
23:45 < rxr> mnemoc: when some person from some EU report writer called me back due t2 on the linux world expo our presentation could not be that bad ,-)
23:46 < mnemoc> you have gate's gift :)
23:46 < rxr> what ?
23:47 < mnemoc> bill gate's gift of convinsing people
23:48 < rxr> ah ,-()
23:53 < sepp> good night * 
23:53 < mnemoc> gn8 sepp 
23:55 < rxr> mnemoc: let's hope one day we have as many users as Bill has ,-)
23:55 < mnemoc> :-)
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