--- Log opened Fri Dec 02 00:00:03 2005 00:00 < Xenos> hello, rxr ;) 00:01 < Xenos> i made the last (i hope) screenshot of my fully-configured T2 ;> what's about of your email? 00:05 < rxr> sure - send it over ,-) 00:09 < karasz> got to re-start sleep cycle 00:10 < karasz> so cu later 00:10 < Xenos> rxr: i forgot it, sorry.. :/ 00:10 < Xenos> cu, karasz 00:11 < karasz> i forgot 00:11 < rxr> Xenos: rene@exactcode.de 00:11 < karasz> mnemoc: or any spanish speacking guys out there 00:11 < karasz> what is che? 00:12 < karasz> no one? 00:12 < karasz> ok, the off i go 00:13 < Xenos> rxr: done 00:13 < Xenos> & i'll go to sleep 00:13 < Xenos> 'night all 00:14 * Xenos is away: dropped to bed.. -_- 00:14 < rxr> cu Xenos 01:10 < rxr> .oO(has now 15 channels open in irrsi ...) 01:13 < _Ragnar_> only 15? 01:13 < mnemoc> re 01:13 < mnemoc> karasz: pong 01:14 < mnemoc> karasz: 'che' is an argentinian-ism to say 'guy' 01:14 < mnemoc> karasz: or 'pal'... depending on the sentence 01:22 < rxr> mnemoc: dual core apple is not yet supported by linux :-( 01:42 < mnemoc> rxr: o.o 01:48 < rxr> mnemoc: master benh just got a device dump and ordered one himself - guess it will soon work 01:48 < rxr> and we can do pr to have the first dual core installable CD then ,-) 01:48 < rxr> *eveil grin* 01:48 < mnemoc> :) 01:54 < rxr> so - bedtime 01:57 < mnemoc> pray to saint benh 01:57 < mnemoc> sleep well rxr 01:57 < rxr> you two 01:58 < rxr> so - lot's of irssi windows closed ... 01:58 < rxr> n8 all 02:11 -!- ojh [n=omer@67-42-54-222.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #t2 02:14 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.241.55] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:29 -!- demian [n=demian@201.206.44.210] has joined #t2 02:31 < demian> hi 02:40 < mnemoc> hi demian 02:41 < demian> next week i will plan to integrate all services to ldap :s 02:41 < demian> scares me.. 02:42 < mnemoc> nah 02:42 < mnemoc> isn't that hard 02:42 < demian> i consider the only hard thing is to setup an initial ldap directory... never did that. 02:43 < demian> but ive joined several services before with pam_ldap, mod?auth?ldap and that ones 02:44 < demian> migarte subversion, samba pdc, unix accounts, mail (with qmail i have no idea..), web auth, .. 02:45 < mnemoc> don't doubt to ask ,-) 02:46 < demian> maybe after that i could try t2.. 02:47 < mnemoc> i have a target for that... is called menrva 02:48 < mnemoc> (but without apache) 02:49 < demian> what does it includes ? 02:50 < demian> dmanit.. after adding around 230 users by hand to apache mod_authz file.. someone told me about a tool for doing that automatically. 02:51 < mnemoc> runit,samba-ldap,qmail-ldap,posixacl,lvm,bincimap,djbdns,sasl2 and heimdal 02:52 < mnemoc> i want to add jabberd, but i haven't done it yet 02:52 < demian> really cool. 02:52 < mnemoc> it's not yet 'out-of-the-box' but at least has all the tools 02:53 < demian> that target is by default configured-- maybe having a look at that target packages i could take an idea how to integrate those services.. 02:54 < demian> or the other way.. install that t2 target :p 02:54 < mnemoc> you would need to add to svn:externals to 2.1/target 02:54 < demian> and maybe give some help on it.. 02:55 < mnemoc> to add two* 02:55 < mnemoc> and you could help me to improve it :) 02:56 < demian> archivista desktop embedded livecd reference uboot 02:56 < demian> bootdisk dreamcast generic psion-pda router 02:56 < demian> have those targets.. listed there ? 02:56 < mnemoc> it's external 02:56 < demian> svn url? 02:56 < mnemoc> mnerva http://svn.exactcode.de/mnemosyne/menrva/trunk 02:57 < mnemoc> mnemosyne http://svn.exactcode.de/mnemosyne/mnemosyne/trunk 02:57 < mnemoc> you need both, because mnerva is mnemosyne based 02:57 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.241.55] has joined #t2 02:58 < demian> how can i merge my existing t2 working copy with that source using svn? 02:59 < mnemoc> svn pedit svn:externals t2-2.1-working-copy/target/ 03:00 < mnemoc> svn up t2-2.1-working-copy 03:03 < demian> umm.. 03:03 < mnemoc> what is confusing you? 03:03 < demian> that command was literal ? 03:04 < mnemoc> t2-2.1-working-copy is the location of your t2 2.1 working copy :) 03:04 < mnemoc> the rest is literal 03:04 < demian> doesnt work then.. 03:04 < demian> svn pedit svn:externals trunk/ 03:04 < mnemoc> did you get 'vim' on pedit ? 03:04 < mnemoc> no! 03:04 < demian> yes.. 03:05 < demian> not trunk.. ? 03:05 < mnemoc> t2-2.1-working-copy/target/ 03:05 < mnemoc> 2.1 03:05 < mnemoc> the stable branch 03:05 < mnemoc> and target subfolder, not t2-root 03:05 < demian> jvargas@spica:~/t2> svn cleanup 03:05 < demian> jvargas@spica:~/t2> svn up 03:05 < demian> waiting.. 03:06 < mnemoc> 2.1? 03:06 < mnemoc> grep sdever scripts/parse-config 03:07 < mnemoc> mnemosyne doesn't work on T2 2.2 03:07 < mnemoc> yet 03:07 < demian> relevant changes ? 03:07 < mnemoc> deep changes 03:07 < demian> i wont build, just take a look atm.. 03:08 < demian> using 2.2 03:09 < mnemoc> full modularity, xorg7, broken bootdisk, udev, gcc 4.0 close to change to 4.1, weekly glibc update, ... 03:10 < demian> btw.. last time built a project working with gcc 3, and then tried it with gcc 4.0.2 and the runtime behaviour failed 03:11 < demian> viceversa.. from 4 to 3. 03:11 < mnemoc> you can't mix them 03:12 < demian> seems that gcc 4.0 assumed some '#include's directives.. with bultin functions or dunno.. but adding the #includes explicitly.. worked.. 03:12 < mnemoc> did you get the externals? or still having troubles? 03:13 < demian> still doing svn up 03:20 < demian> i hope out inet provider increase bandwidth next week to 512Kb at least.. 03:20 < demian> 128Kb is a crap. 03:20 < mnemoc> 64k here 03:20 < demian> poor one. 03:20 < mnemoc> and shared with a neightbor 03:22 < demian> jaja. 03:23 < demian> what kind of connection, isdn, adsl, ? 03:24 < mnemoc> he has cable, and i get there via wifi 03:41 < demian> ? 03:41 < demian> i left doing svn update on trunk.. and now it's updating also tags/ 03:41 < demian> tags/2.1.0-rc1/packa .. 03:42 < mnemoc> ehm 03:42 < mnemoc> are you grabbing the whole svn tree? 03:43 < mnemoc> that doesn't make much sense :p 03:43 < mnemoc> svn co http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/branches/2.1 t2-2.1 03:43 < mnemoc> svn co http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/trunk t2-trunk 03:44 < mnemoc> svn pedit svn:externals t2-2.1/target 03:44 < mnemoc> svn up t2-2.1/target 03:44 < mnemoc> a usefull tweak after that is 03:44 < mnemoc> mkdir t2-download 03:45 < mnemoc> mkdir t2-download/{2.1-stable,2.2-alpha} 03:45 < mnemoc> ln -s ../t2-download/2.1-stable t2-2.1/download 03:45 < mnemoc> ln -s ../t2-download/2.2-alpha t2-trunk/download 03:46 < mnemoc> and when you do Download -cfg foo, always append -alt-dir ../t2-download 03:46 < mnemoc> so you get hardlinks to all common files 03:54 < demian> fucking subversion.. seems that a SIG_INT in this version doesnt respond.. 03:54 < demian> i stopped it and i am downloading 2,1 tree 03:54 < demian> i got to go, let? talk about this later. thanks 03:54 -!- madtux [i=miguel@pf0.hostarica.com] has joined #t2 03:55 < mnemoc> wb madtux 03:55 < madtux> thx 04:29 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@p54AFD030.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 04:45 -!- mtr [n=Michael@p54AF888F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:02 < CIA-11> amery * r13721 /trunk/package/mail/crm114/crm114.desc: * updated crm114 (20041231.BlameSanAndreas -> 20051001-BlameRaulMiller) 05:08 < CIA-11> amery * r13722 /trunk/package/mail/crm114/crm114.desc: * marked crm114 as Stable, and maintainship taken. 05:26 -!- ojh [n=omer@67-42-54-222.eugn.qwest.net] has left #t2 [] 05:30 < CIA-11> amery * r13723 /trunk/package/mail/crm114/parallelism.patch: * fixed parallelism problem on crm114 05:30 * Xenos is back (gone 05:16:47) 06:58 -!- madtux [i=miguel@pf0.hostarica.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 07:41 -!- mipe [n=mipe@k170.ip2.netikka.fi] has joined #t2 07:58 -!- mipe_ [n=mipe@k170.ip2.netikka.fi] has joined #t2 08:11 -!- mipe [n=mipe@k170.ip2.netikka.fi] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:57 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr 08:57 < mtr> moin 08:58 < Xenos> moin, mtr 09:18 < rxr> moin 09:19 < Xenos> heh 09:20 < Xenos> hi, rxr, what about of my new screen? :) & what about of the screen-page? ;) 09:40 < rxr> yep - I know - I need to do the screenshot page ... 09:43 < Xenos> :) 09:54 < rxr> Apache 2.2.0 Released 09:56 < Xenos> yeah 09:56 * Xenos downloaded it 3 hours ago 09:56 < Xenos> but i prefer lighttpd.. 09:59 -!- geekitus [n=geekitus@ARennes-251-1-101-170.w86-199.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #t2 10:00 < CIA-11> rene * r13724 /trunk/package/base/module-init-tools/module-init-tools.desc: * updated module-init-tools (3.2-pre9 -> 3.2.1) 10:06 < CIA-11> rene * r13725 /trunk/package/filesystem/fuse/fuse.desc: * updated fuse (2.4.1 -> 2.4.2) 10:25 < CIA-11> rene * r13726 /trunk/package/x11/ (mesa/mesa.desc mesa-demos/mesa-demos.desc): 10:25 < CIA-11> * updated mesa (6.4 -> 6.4.1) 10:25 < CIA-11> * updated mesa-demos (6.4 -> 6.4.1) 10:26 < rxr> Error logs from reference-2.2.0-alpha-x86-pentium-mmx-reference: 10:26 < rxr> [5] xorg/xf86-video-cirrus 10:26 < rxr> 4161 builds total, 750 completed fine, 1 with errors. 10:26 < rxr> and that is just my patch not applying anymore 10:26 < rxr> need a rediff .. 10:26 < rxr> trivial one 10:26 < rxr> do that after breakfast ... 10:26 < owl> moin 10:30 < rxr> moin owl 10:38 < owl> hi rxr 10:50 < mipe_> rxr: could you merge valgrind to 2.1 branch? or is it just r11541? 10:51 < mipe_> rxr: mnemoc sayed that its ok if its just changed itself ie no abi changes and no needed changes to ones that depend it 10:51 -!- mipe_ is now known as mipe 11:10 < mipe> uhm, transfig errors out in wierd way 11:10 < mipe> install -c fig2dev /usr/X11R6/bin/fig2dev 11:10 < mipe> + mkdir -p /usr/lib64/X11/xfig/bitmaps 11:10 < mipe> mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/lib64/X11': File exists 11:10 < mipe> Copying bitmap files for tk to /usr/lib64/X11/xfig/bitmaps 11:10 < mipe> install: cannot create regular file `/usr/lib64/X11/xfig/bitmaps': No such file' 11:11 < mipe> /usrc/lib64/X11 -> ../X11/lib64/X11 11:11 < mipe> /usr/* 11:13 -!- maro [n=mark@0x55511dab.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 11:15 < mipe> tho the link should probably point to ../X11/lib/X11 since most of the X stuff is there 11:22 -!- geekitus_ [n=geekitus@ARennes-251-1-75-141.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #t2 11:32 < rxr> mipe: when stable populats X11/lib instead of X11/lib64 there is a but in xorg I think 11:32 < rxr> maybe some change from trunk missing ... 11:32 < mipe> i 11:32 < mipe> i'm building 2.1 11:32 < mipe> ah yes... 11:33 -!- geekitus [n=geekitus@ARennes-251-1-101-170.w86-199.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Connection timed out] 11:33 < rxr> are most libs in lib/ ? 11:33 < mipe> yep 11:33 < rxr> hm 11:33 < rxr> I did changes in that area 11:34 < rxr> I would have assumed they made it into stable ... 11:34 < mipe> IIRC most of them where on lib64 but didnt we change it because of fonts stuff 11:34 < mipe> to install lib 11:35 < rxr> no 11:35 < rxr> I changed just the fonts IIRC 11:36 < mipe> hmm, yeah you are right. I have bad memory... 11:44 < mipe> usr/X11/lib64 gets only populated by lesstif 11:45 < rxr> so stable misses the xorg lib64 modifications ... ? 11:45 < mipe> but xorg makes the lib/ symlink, but it should make lib64 link,shouldnt it? 11:46 < mipe> trunks xorg is on xorg/xorg-server? 12:03 < rxr> runks xorg is totally different 12:03 < rxr> it is the modular 12:03 < rxr> there are no such custom install things like in 2.1 ... 12:04 < rxr> you need to compare with the last revisions before xorg was removed from trunk 12:14 < mipe> yep, have to take a look next week, leaving soon for the weekend... 12:18 < rxr> ic - have fun then 12:18 < mipe> well, lesstif is fixed by not populating lib64, so it get installed to lib... 12:19 < rxr> lib64 is right however 12:19 < rxr> please do not commit 12:19 < rxr> let's tweak xorg accordingly 12:19 < mipe> hmm, so we want fonts to get installed to lib and other stuff to lib64? 12:20 < mipe> if so, theres a patch in xorg dir, that defines that we dont want to have lib64 hier 12:28 -!- geekitus_ [n=geekitus@ARennes-251-1-75-141.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ["Leaving"] 12:40 -!- mtr [n=Michael@p54AFD030.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:53 -!- mipe [n=mipe@k170.ip2.netikka.fi] has quit ["leaving"] 13:38 < karasz> re all 14:22 < rxr> hi karasz 14:23 < karasz> oh 14:23 < karasz> hi rxr 14:27 < rxr> oh ? 14:27 < rxr> karasz: my dual core G5 is not yet supported by linux ... 14:27 < rxr> need some days to hopefully get a patch from benh ... 14:28 < karasz> o_O 14:28 < karasz> why? 14:28 < rxr> new chipset I think - mostly ... 14:50 < karasz> benh? 14:52 < karasz> benh from ppc? 14:53 < karasz> i mean penguinppc 14:53 < karasz> Benjamin Herrenschmidt? 14:55 < mnemoc> moin 14:56 < karasz> hello mnemoc 14:56 < karasz> :( gotta go 14:56 < karasz> be back in 1 hour 14:56 < mnemoc> cu karasz 15:01 < rxr> moin mnemoc 15:01 < mnemoc> moin rxr 15:01 < rxr> karasz: yes 15:02 * mnemoc survives his second days coming on bike to office 15:02 < mnemoc> but wife's bike is a bit short to me :( 15:03 < rxr> mnemoc: why now by bike ? 15:04 < mnemoc> walking i took 1:40h.... about 3h per day lost 15:04 * mnemoc *tired* 15:05 -!- Xenos [n=stealth@80.240.208.36] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:05 -!- VX [n=stealth@80.240.208.63] has joined #t2 15:06 < rxr> mnemoc: you always walked ? 15:09 < mnemoc> everyday last two months 15:09 < rxr> why? 15:09 < rxr> you took the bus before ? 15:09 < mnemoc> first days i took around 45 minutes, but the last i was over 1:30 15:09 < mnemoc> yes 15:09 < rxr> .oO 15:09 < rxr> why ? 15:10 < mnemoc> i need to reduce expences 15:10 < rxr> ouhm 15:10 * rxr needs to hire some people for ExactCODE ,-) 15:10 < mnemoc> bike will be a good thing when i get used to it 15:10 < rxr> yep 15:10 < mnemoc> and when i rise the sit 15:11 < mnemoc> i'm 1.92 and my wife 1.61 :p 15:11 < rxr> ,-) 15:14 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:41 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178188017.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 15:41 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0 RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Give us a greeting and don't hesitate to ask any questions you have :-) 15:41 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Fri Nov 11 21:33:14 2005] 15:41 [Users #t2] 15:41 [ _Ragnar_] [ jsaw ] [ owl ] [ SerWou ] [ valentin] 15:41 [ CIA-11 ] [ karasz] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly ] [ VEXation] 15:41 [ demian ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr_] [ sparc-kly[WORK]] 15:41 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal] 15:41 -!- [freenode-info] Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked, except to network staff, to services (NickServ, etc.), and to registered users who have unblocked them. 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16:16 < jsaw> thesis is finished since about three weeks, I'm currently preparing for defense...hard core learning 16:18 < mnemoc> aditional papers also finished? 16:19 < jsaw> one's out in review process, the other one has to wait... 16:19 < mnemoc> :) 16:24 -!- VEXation is now known as Xenos 16:24 -!- Xenos [n=stealth@80.240.208.49] has quit ["There is intelligent life out there..."] 16:24 -!- Xenos [n=stealth@80.240.208.49] has joined #t2 16:25 < rxr> mnemoc: just because your bus expenses cut 16:26 < mnemoc> rxr: i need to find a better job 16:27 < rxr> wasn't that what I was talking about .. ,-) 16:28 < mnemoc> :) 16:43 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has quit [Excess Flood] 17:01 < demian> brb 17:02 -!- demian [n=demian@201.206.44.210] has quit ["leaving"] 17:04 < mnemoc> jsaw: i don't understand why to did package support on Copy-Patch that complex 17:04 < mnemoc> jsaw: and neither why the result is different 17:04 < jsaw> ? 17:05 < jsaw> different results? 17:05 < mnemoc> -# T2 SDE: package/.../crm114/parallelism.patch 17:05 < mnemoc> +# T2 SDE: ./package/.../crm114/parallelism.patch 17:06 < jsaw> how did you invoke it? 17:06 < mnemoc> with ./ but old version (2.1) trimmed it 17:07 < jsaw> hmmm 17:08 < jsaw> I only inserted the package -> file expansion, it shouldn't change anything else....oO(?) 17:09 < mnemoc> my mistake... old version didn't hide ./ 17:09 < mnemoc> but it should :p 17:09 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.241.55] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:09 < mnemoc> jsaw: but why adding every file on $confdir/* instead of $confdir ? 17:10 < jsaw> wait a sec 17:12 < mnemoc> - for i in $*; do 17:12 < mnemoc> + for i; do 17:12 < mnemoc> + i=${i#./} 17:12 < mnemoc> ? 17:13 < mnemoc> or files="$files ${i#./}" ? 17:15 -!- geekitus [n=geekitus@d83-179-2-225.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #t2 17:15 < CIA-11> jsaw * r13729 /trunk/scripts/Create-CopyPatch: * remove leading ./, and tiny cleanup 17:16 < mnemoc> another thing... set $files 17:16 < mnemoc> $files can be empty 17:16 < jsaw> no 17:16 < mnemoc> yes 17:16 < jsaw> how? 17:16 < mnemoc> echo Cannot find \'$i\', ignoring. 1>&2 17:19 < mnemoc> and btw, there is a nice 'elif' statement :) 17:20 < mnemoc> set -- $files solves the empty $files issue 17:21 < jsaw> no really 17:21 < jsaw> not * 17:22 < mnemoc> not really what? 17:22 < mnemoc> [ "$files" ] || exit ? 17:22 < jsaw> a "[ $# = 0 ] && exit" must follow 17:22 < jsaw> :) 17:22 < mnemoc> :) 17:23 < CIA-11> jsaw * r13730 /trunk/scripts/Create-CopyPatch: 17:23 < CIA-11> * make it empty-argument-due-to-typo safe 17:23 < CIA-11> * further cleanup as requested by mnemoc 17:24 < mnemoc> files="$files $each/." <--- ? $each is a subdir then? 17:25 * mnemoc pissing off jsaw :p 17:25 < jsaw> just as it is done if no argument was given 17:25 < mnemoc> yes, but you are looping on $confdir/* 17:25 < mnemoc> so you add $confdir/*/. 17:25 < jsaw> no, $confdir/. 17:26 < jsaw> the * is in the repo 17:26 < mnemoc> oh, yes 17:26 < mnemoc> :) 17:26 < jsaw> but it's wrong anyway 17:26 < jsaw> could be a repo script... 17:26 < jsaw> the /. is wrong 17:26 < mnemoc> for each there is to use package-names patterns? 17:27 < mnemoc> confdir=$( echo package/*/$i ) 17:27 < mnemoc> if [ -d $confdir ]; then echo known; else echo unknown ; fi ? 17:29 < mnemoc> i don't understand why that for :p 17:36 < jsaw> left-over from previous processing, change as you like :p 17:37 < mnemoc> i wasn't imposing anything.... just trying to understand the reason for that complexity :p 17:37 < jsaw> :) 17:39 < mnemoc> :) 17:40 -!- misl [n=chatzill@cc478814-d.mp1.dr.home.nl] has joined #t2 17:41 < misl> hi folks 17:42 < jsaw> hi misl 17:42 < jsaw> gotta go and c the family, cu 17:43 < misl> hibye jsaw 17:44 < mnemoc> bye jsaw 17:44 < mnemoc> hi misl 17:47 < misl> hi mnemoc :) 17:54 < rxr> hey misl 17:55 < misl> hi rxr :) 18:16 < misl> rxr: glibc still fails, although the cause seems different since the upgrade 18:21 < misl> :) I now have internet in my summerhouse as well. 18:21 < mnemoc> :) 18:22 < mnemoc> is 'summer house' a legal term? i see you passing more time there that at 'real house' 18:22 < misl> mnemoc: Only till januari :) 18:22 < misl> then the contract ends 18:23 < misl> hehe, but they don't want me to look for an other contract :) 18:23 < mnemoc> :) 18:23 < misl> they might offer me a contract in another of these offices. Thursday I have an intake in their Amsterdam office. 18:24 < misl> Then it will be a real summerhouse. 18:25 < mnemoc> :) 18:25 < mnemoc> but noisy will sleep 18:25 < misl> :( unfortunately 18:26 < misl> I should look for a 19" cabinet for some noise reduction. 18:27 -!- demian [n=demian@201.206.44.210] has joined #t2 18:28 < misl> mnemoc: will it matter if noisy is only on daytimes? I hardly see access by you or rxr. 18:30 < mnemoc> i do fixing more than building there.... but my latency is too high 18:31 < mnemoc> rxr run his regression tests 18:31 < mnemoc> which don't need atendance 18:31 < misl> let's see how they did :D 18:32 < misl> nothing changes since 2 days 18:36 < mnemoc> jsaw: did you have files copyrighted to you somewhere on t2 tree? i can't find them now.... 18:43 < _Ragnar_> moin 18:50 < misl> mnemoc: how is your eclipse package doing? 18:51 < mnemoc> fail on install... after .tar.gz is created 18:51 < mnemoc> it calls -jar startup.jar and froze 18:52 < mnemoc> i'll commit to trunk so you can review 18:54 < CIA-11> amery * r13731 /trunk/package/java/eclipse/eclipse.conf: * cleaned eclipse.conf, but still failing to install with kaffe 18:54 < mnemoc> i discovered i'm alergic to ant so... if you can take a deeper look, great 18:55 < _Ragnar_> for me it doesn't even compile - just loops forever 18:57 < mnemoc> o.o 18:57 < mnemoc> what java? 18:57 < mnemoc> 00-java-dirtree installed? 19:04 < _Ragnar_> kaffe 19:04 < _Ragnar_> and yes 19:05 < rxr> _Ragnar_: yes - kaffe-bin loops for me here on ppc as well, often 19:05 < rxr> _Ragnar_: what arch do you have that let's kaffe inf. loop ? 19:05 < _Ragnar_> athlon x86 19:06 < misl> mnemoc: I am afraid it will be a bit hard for me to have a look. I have no decent environment in which to build since noisy does not properly build a trunk target 19:06 < _Ragnar_> btw rxr didn't you say you fixed that /.libs/libacl.so prob in kdelibs? 19:07 < mnemoc> misl: try on 2.1 19:07 < mnemoc> misl: just svn cp eclipse 19:07 < mnemoc> misl: i test it on 2.1 19:08 < misl> mnemoc: I could try to emerge on noisy? 19:09 < mnemoc> does noisy has the proper enviroment? 19:09 < mnemoc> misl: i have an almost built desktop on my home... you could pkgsel java there 19:09 < mnemoc> but it's x86_64 19:10 < misl> define proper :) 19:12 < mnemoc> working java and ant 19:13 < misl> :) yes. I have latest sun jdk 1.5 19:13 < mnemoc> it would be nice to see if it builds with sun's 19:14 < rxr> cu all - /we all off for dinner 19:14 < misl> just started it 19:14 < misl> rxr: enjoy your dinner :) 19:14 < demian> cu rxr 19:20 < demian> are firefox and current browsers supporting TLS ? 19:24 -!- MisterN [n=MrN@p549CC9D3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 19:25 < misl> == 12/02/05 19:17:59 =[9]=> Finished building package eclipse. 19:28 < misl> hmm, eclipse flist is a bit short :( 19:34 < misl> mnemoc: This does not appear to be right 19:34 < misl> [mkdir] Created dir: /mnt/space/t2/trunk/src.eclipse.minimal-x86.20051202.19 19:34 < misl> 0848.30058.noisy/eclipse-3.1.1/plugins/org.eclipse.swt.win32.win32.x86/temp.fold 19:34 < misl> er/@dot.bin 19:34 < misl> There is Win32 in there 19:34 < misl> ohh, seems to be doing it for every arch. hpux in there as well. 19:35 < mnemoc> o.o 19:35 < mnemoc> -arch $arch may need mangling 19:54 < karasz> re hi 19:54 < karasz> hunting finished :) 20:01 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.241.55] has joined #t2 20:47 < karasz> Dilon's Cron `This is the standard cron distributed with most distributions of Linux.` ??? 20:47 < karasz> what about Vixie Cron? 20:49 < mnemoc> vixie is the sucking standard 20:50 < mnemoc> is Dilon's Cron is 'dcron'.... it's far away from standard... it doesn't even support /etc/crontab 20:50 < mnemoc> if* 20:50 < mnemoc> http://untroubled.org/bcron/bcron.html#SEC2 20:58 -!- geekitus [n=geekitus@d83-179-2-225.cust.tele2.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:01 < karasz> teah i thought that vixi is the default, but freshmeat say that i thought wrong ;) 21:03 < mnemoc> fm doesn't even know what 'dilon' is 21:04 < mnemoc> http://freshmeat.net/projects/dcron/ 21:04 < mnemoc> Dillon's Cron is a multi-user cron written from scratch, similar to vixie-cron but with major differences. Attention is paid less to feature-creep and more to usability and reliability. This is the standard cron distributed with most distributions of Linux. 21:04 < mnemoc> bah 21:04 < mnemoc> "but with major differences" 21:05 < karasz> :) 21:05 < karasz> fcron supports i guess crontab files 21:06 < karasz> at least he say so ab v 3.0 on the site 21:07 < mnemoc> i prefer bcron separation anyway :) 21:07 < karasz> i am not trying to convince you about anything here 21:08 < karasz> i am just trying to colect stuff to port to T2 when my machine arives 21:08 < mnemoc> i do :p 21:08 < karasz> interested in a list? 21:08 < mnemoc> sure 21:10 < karasz> http://karasz.pastebin.ca/32136 21:10 < karasz> mainly to Iso convertors , fcron and sylpheed-claws 21:11 < mnemoc> looks good 21:12 < karasz> btw beside being opensource and GPL'ed i should watch out for anything else? 21:12 < mnemoc> more important than license... which we can handle using [D] attributes, it's your willing to maintain them. 21:13 < karasz> ok, i understood that 21:13 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.205.215.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 21:14 < sepp> moin 21:14 < karasz> i visit konversation.kde.org regulary 21:14 < karasz> moin sepp 21:14 < sepp> hi karasz 21:14 < sepp> someone tried a uclibc build lately? 21:16 < sepp> 1-pdksh goes in a inf. loop running "/bin/sh/*TOOLCHAIN/tools.cross/diet-bin/i686-t2-linux-uclibc-gcc --version" 21:23 < karasz> yawn 21:24 < owl> my words. hi karasz 21:24 < karasz> hi owl 21:33 < demian> mnemoc: u have mike's mail? 21:33 < owl> hi demian ! 21:33 < mnemoc> demian: mike@hsol.net 21:33 < mnemoc> hi demian, owlita 21:34 < sepp> what does "bash(Build-Pkg).sh(tools.c).open64:" mean? 21:34 < sepp> i mean tools.c 21:35 < demian> miss owl ;-) 21:35 < demian> how are things going owl? 21:35 < mnemoc> bash source file ? 21:36 < sepp> hmm 21:40 < sepp> open64: /dev/tty, fopen: /etc/passwd, open64: diet-bin/i686-t2-linux-uclibc-gcc, execve: diet-bin/i686-t2-linux-uclibc-gcc 21:40 < sepp> thats the loop 21:41 < CIA-11> amery * r13732 /trunk/scripts/Create-CopyPatch: * cleaned Create-CopyPatch patch generation, improved to preserve any Copyright (C) line on the note and added .lua support 21:41 < mnemoc> that looks senseless 21:45 < sepp> i have no clue what going on but i686-t2-linux-uclibc-gcc line 3 "exec i686-t2-linux-uclibc-gcc "$@"" somehow starts the loop 21:46 < sepp> with --version 21:46 < sepp> hmmm 21:46 < mnemoc> can you compare $0 and `type -p i686-t2-linux-uclibc-gcc` ? 21:47 < sepp> in debug.sh "/bin/sh .../tools.cross/diet-bin/i686-t2-linux-uclibc-gcc" - loop 21:55 < sepp> outside the sandbox i can compile a empty main(), inside i686-t2-linux-uclibc-gcc loops :( 21:58 < mnemoc> type -p i686-t2-linux-uclibc-gcc ? 21:59 < sepp> TOOLCHAIN/tools.cross/diet-bin/i686-t2-linux-uclibc-gcc 22:00 < sepp> i can not run it from outside but "./i686-t2-linux-uclibc-nm a.out" looks good 22:01 < sepp> weird 22:02 < mnemoc> i have to go... 22:02 < karasz> bye mnemoc 22:02 < karasz> cu 22:02 < mnemoc> that should be controlled by wrapper's PATH mangling 22:02 < misl> cu mnemoc 22:02 < sepp> cu :) 22:03 < sepp> strace shows lots of open lstat etc ("") 22:05 < sepp> that seems to cause the loop inside the uclibc-gcc 22:09 < CIA-11> amery * r13733 /trunk/scripts/Create-CopyPatch: * changed Create-CopyPatch to use only one year when $since -eq $until, and improved copyright renewal to support this next year. 22:10 < rxr> re 22:12 < rxr> oh - lot's of scrollback 22:12 < misl> hi rxr, how was your dinner :) 22:13 < rxr> oh - great 22:13 < rxr> thank 22:13 < rxr> misl: how are you ? 22:13 < misl> rxr: fine thank you 22:14 < misl> seems like they appreciate me at work. They offered me something else after this project is done :) 22:15 < misl> but it will be in their Amsterdam office. Guess this will have implications for noisy :( 22:21 < rxr> misl: want to have noisy in a datacenter? 22:21 < rxr> ~30 EUR/month ... 22:21 < rxr> 1 HE rack-space, aircon and ups ... 22:22 < rxr> or we finally build some cabinet for the box ,-) 22:22 < misl> nahh, I want my own cabinet 22:22 < demian> an apache question.. is there a wildcard to indicate "any hosname" in the ServerName directive for a vhost ? 22:22 < rxr> yep - I think so 22:22 < rxr> demian: do you only have one? or many? 22:22 < misl> rxr: maybe add some foam on the inside to eat the noise. 22:22 < rxr> if you use have one you need no vhoat at all ... 22:23 < demian> rxr: i want to have several vhosts.. but if no vhost matches, the apply the "any" vh0ost config.. which always will be SSL, to eb more paranoic. 22:24 < demian> the point is to allow not-ssl connections from my trusted (specified) vhosts. 22:24 < rxr> demian: you need no additional vhost 22:24 < rxr> if none matches the default one is used 22:24 < rxr> IIRC this is just the first one you defined 22:24 < rxr> or so 22:24 < rxr> I can look that up if you need help 22:24 < demian> ill try and ill tell u after that. 22:34 < demian> vhosts are supposed to inherit configuration from global one ? 22:42 < rxr> to some degree I think 22:43 < demian> DocumentIndex directive is not being inherited.. 22:46 * misl off to bed, sleep well all 22:46 -!- misl [n=chatzill@cc478814-d.mp1.dr.home.nl] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68a [Firefox 1.0.6/20050717]"] 23:09 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.241.55] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:19 < mnemoc> rehi 23:19 < Xenos> rehello, mnemoc 23:19 < Xenos> :) 23:20 < mnemoc> demian: the first vhost read is the 'default' when no other match the request 23:20 < mnemoc> hi Xenos 23:20 < Xenos> :) 23:21 < mnemoc> demian: non-vhost config is passed to vhosts, so that could be considered 'inherence' 23:22 < Xenos> mnemoc 23:22 < mnemoc> Xenos: 23:22 < Xenos> http://newage.gcnet.ru/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=266684 23:22 < Xenos> :) 23:22 < Xenos> check it out 23:23 < demian> [warn] _default_ VirtualHost overlap on port 443, the first has precedence 23:23 < mnemoc> you can't have vhosts and SSL 23:24 < mnemoc> only using pound 23:24 < mnemoc> Xenos: i'll not register 23:24 < Xenos> argh, sorry 23:24 < Xenos> 5 sec 23:25 < demian> mnemoc: may i specify a wildcard for certain network mask ? 23:25 < Xenos> http://newage.gcnet.ru/uploads/img-970-desktop.png 23:25 < mnemoc> demian: VirtualHost decition on apache is taken _before_ decrypting, and before decrypting you can't know what is requested 23:25 < demian> in a vhost. 23:25 < mnemoc> Xenos: you will hurt your eyes soon 23:25 < Xenos> :) 23:25 < mnemoc> Xenos: but looks cool 23:25 < mnemoc> :) 23:25 < Xenos> so small fonts? 23:25 < Xenos> ;> 23:26 < mnemoc> demian: you can specify what ip to listen, not what ip (network mask) to answer. 23:27 < demian> ok. but can i do specify a domain mane then, *.mydomain.com _ 23:27 < demian> ? 23:27 < mnemoc> ServerAlias iirc 23:28 < demian> ok 23:28 < mnemoc> but that is _one_ vhost for all 1.2.3.4:443 23:29 < mnemoc> the second vhost on 1.2.3.4:443 will be _ignored_ 23:29 < Xenos> mnemoc: r u about too small fonts? ;) 23:29 < Xenos> *about of 23:29 < Xenos> :) 23:29 < mnemoc> Xenos: 9pt :) 23:29 < Xenos> 8 23:29 < Xenos> :) 23:29 < demian> ok. i want a vhost for lan, and another for the rest. 23:30 < mnemoc> demian: bind them to different IPs 23:30 < mnemoc> but, as i said before, pound is the only elegant solution 23:31 < demian> da u think pound will simplify the filtering by IP and domains and that stuff, so apache just will take care about vhost config? 23:32 < mnemoc> yes 23:32 < mnemoc> and you get also load balancer for the same price 23:33 < demian> pound is very small.. 23:33 < mnemoc> simple tools to do simple jobs 23:33 < demian> --enable-msdav ? this will have trouble with mod_dav in apache ? 23:33 < mnemoc> nope, pound is just a proxy 23:34 < mnemoc> but filters what it think can be undesired 23:34 -!- jsaw_ [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 23:34 -!- jsaw [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:34 < demian> i mean.. it has a congiuration option.. do outside users and inside users go at the server by the same 23:34 < demian> name? 23:34 < mnemoc> in that case you tell it to let ms extensions of WebDAV pass 23:35 < demian> sorry.. dismiss that last line. 23:35 < demian> mnemoc: ok.. 23:35 < mnemoc> demian: yes, iptables does the rest 23:35 < mnemoc> demian: 10/8 can reach :80, 0/0 can reach 443 23:36 < demian> in the vhost definition how does it goes? this way: 23:36 < demian> VirtualHost 10/8:80 23:36 < mnemoc> vhost is just a 'Host' header on an http request 23:37 < demian> VirtualHost 0/0:43 .. or a different syntax 23:37 < mnemoc> wtf? 23:37 < demian> gonna read sth. ill be back when i get sth.. 23:39 < demian> ok. how can i redirect connection on port 80 to 443 inside a vhost config ? 23:39 < demian> Redirec / ??? 23:40 < demian> Redirec / 443:/ 23:40 < mnemoc> ?? 23:40 < mnemoc> what syntax is that? what tool are you using? 23:45 < demian> could u try to test both http and https on testingsoft.dnsalias.com ? 23:45 < demian> it should tell an error message for connection on 80.. and on 443 see a stupid text web page. 23:46 < rxr> mnemoc: the 2.1.0 ISO does boot on a iBook - however not on an Mac mini 23:46 < rxr> for a strange, unknown reason 23:46 < rxr> but release it anyway 23:46 < rxr> I have not installed it - struggel enough to find what historic reason boots on the mac mini 23:47 < rxr> however the freshly downloaded 2.1.0-rc3 does also not boot on the mac mini - but on the iBook 23:47 < rxr> where the now re-find -rc3 from my shelf _DOES_ boot on the mac mini 23:47 < mnemoc> o.o 23:47 < rxr> so maybe it is just OS suX that misburned the CD in some evil way ... 23:47 < rxr> however - just move it to the release area 23:47 < rxr> it will work for most people I think 23:48 < mnemoc> done 23:49 < mnemoc> 8394df00a0097808b55ecc2a87b0911c ../../stable/2.1.0/G3/t2-desktop/t2-desktop-2.1.0-G3_cd1.iso 23:51 < Xenos> mnemoc: what about of 2.1.1 ? :DDD 23:51 < CIA-11> rene * r13734 /trunk/package/powerpc/mac-fdisk/mac-fdisk.desc: * updated mac-fdisk (0.1-12 -> 0.1-13) 23:53 < mnemoc> Xenos: :p 23:53 < Xenos> =) 23:55 < CIA-11> amery * r13735 /trunk/package/mail/qscanq/qscanq.conf: * fixed qscanq to do the needed chmod before installing (setuid) --- Log closed Sat Dec 03 00:00:15 2005