--- Log opened Fri Nov 18 00:00:00 2005 00:00 < rxr> so - bed now 00:00 < rxr> cu all 00:00 < CIA-10> rene * r13415 /trunk/package/graphic/ogre3d/ (. ogre3d.cache ogre3d.conf ogre3d.desc): 00:00 < CIA-10> * added ogre3d (1.0-5) - A realtime 3d engine we have been asked for 00:00 < CIA-10> during the Linux World Expo 00:00 < jsaw> cu, rxr 00:14 -!- sparc-kly|Univ [n=mubex@66-50-123-218.prtc.net] has joined #t2 00:23 < jsaw> g'night 00:49 -!- sparc-kly|Univ [n=mubex@66-50-123-218.prtc.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:49 -!- Postal [i=Postal@ool-43562fd6.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:52 -!- Postal [i=Postal@ool-43562fd6.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #t2 00:52 < Postal> hey all 00:53 < Postal> anyone around? 00:53 * mnemoc looks around 00:53 < mnemoc> no 00:54 < mnemoc> :) 00:55 < Postal> lol, ive been playing around in Macromedia Studio 8 and wondered if anyone would object if i did some work for the T2 site? 00:57 < mnemoc> any free contribution on free format is welcomed 00:57 < Postal> Do you guys care if I throw some flash in there? 01:00 < Postal> I really enjoy flash pages 01:02 < mnemoc> you can do something on flash if you want 01:02 < Postal> nifty.. who do i talk to for uploading when its finished? 01:02 < mnemoc> but we can't have a site which can't be seen using our distributions 01:03 < Postal> ok 01:03 < Postal> umm, does T2 have flash support? 01:03 < mnemoc> flash plugin is not redistributable 01:03 < Postal> ah 01:03 < Postal> so in other words it could have it but does not by default 01:03 < Postal> ok 01:04 < mnemoc> yep 01:04 < Postal> ill just stick to W3C CSS and whatnot 01:04 < Postal> as any browser can display that by default 01:05 < Postal> who do i talk to when its finished for uplaoding? 01:05 < mnemoc> rene 01:05 < Postal> ok 01:05 < Postal> it will prolly be a week or so... 01:06 < mnemoc> :) 01:06 < Postal> But it is looking really nice already.. im hosting it internally on apache now for previewing and whatnot 01:08 < Postal> I have not figured out how to make apache host the site externally yet.. 01:09 < Postal> brb have to restart 01:09 -!- Postal [i=Postal@ool-43562fd6.dyn.optonline.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:10 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Xenos 01:11 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Xenos 02:02 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: axion, _Ragnar_, mtr, sparc-kly[WORK], valentin, jsaw, SerWou, mnemoc 02:03 -!- Netsplit over, joins: mnemoc, axion, mtr, sparc-kly[WORK], jsaw, valentin, _Ragnar_, SerWou 02:06 -!- [freenode-info] Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked, except to network staff, to services (NickServ, etc.), and to registered users who have unblocked them. Please see the freenode website for more information: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg 02:20 < CIA-10> amery * r13416 /branches/2.1/package/x11/xorg/ (xorg-conf.in xorg.conf xvfb-run): 02:20 < CIA-10> * merged 11390 from trunk: enabled Xvfb on xorg (3.4M), and added xvfb-run from debian 02:20 < CIA-10> * merged 13348 from trunk: fixed xvfb-run to use mktemp instead of tempfile 02:26 -!- ojh [n=omer@71-210-7-152.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #t2 02:38 -!- sparc-kly[g3] [n=mubex@64.237.254.42] has joined #t2 02:48 -!- ojh [n=omer@71-210-7-152.eugn.qwest.net] has left #t2 [] 02:56 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@p54AFC9A8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 03:05 -!- mtr [n=Michael@p54AFCBED.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:39 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.254.42] has joined #t2 04:21 -!- axion [n=axion@cpe-24-195-94-82.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit ["leaving"] 04:23 -!- CIA-10 [n=CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [Excess Flood] 04:24 -!- CIA-10 [n=CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #t2 04:28 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.254.42] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:39 -!- sparc-kly[g3] [n=mubex@64.237.254.42] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:54 -!- ojh [n=omer@71-210-7-152.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #t2 04:58 -!- sparc-kly[g3] [n=mubex@64.237.254.42] has joined #t2 05:04 < mnemoc> jsaw: can you see if my last change to embutils let you have `which`? 06:07 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178172162.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 06:07 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0 RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Give us a greeting and don't hesitate to ask any questions you have :-) 06:07 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Fri Nov 11 21:33:14 2005] 06:07 [Users #t2] 06:07 [ _Ragnar_] [ jsaw ] [ mtr_] [ sepp ] [ sparc-kly[g3] ] [ valentin] 06:07 [ CIA-10 ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ SerWou] [ sparc-kly[WORK]] [ Xenos ] 06:07 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal] 06:07 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 06:07 -!- [freenode-info] Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked, except to network staff, to services (NickServ, etc.), and to registered users who have unblocked them. Please see the freenode website for more information: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg 06:07 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 16 secs 06:19 -!- Postal [i=Postal@ool-43562fd6.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #t2 06:19 < Postal> Hey is anyone around? 06:36 < CIA-10> amery * r13422 /branches/2.1/package/ (5 files in 3 dirs): 06:36 < CIA-10> * merged 9876 from trunk: added $stagelevel 0 and 1 to the ccache directory name 06:36 < CIA-10> * merged 12695 from trunk: added SYSCC wrapper, and adapted ccache/parse-config it 06:36 < CIA-10> * merged 12696 from trunk: improved our ccache tweaks to not hash more -M* flag cases 06:41 -!- Postal [i=Postal@ool-43562fd6.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:41 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178179209.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 07:41 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0 RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Give us a greeting and don't hesitate to ask any questions you have :-) 07:41 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Fri Nov 11 21:33:14 2005] 07:41 [Users #t2] 07:41 [ _Ragnar_] [ jsaw ] [ mtr_] [ sepp ] [ sparc-kly[g3] ] [ valentin] 07:41 [ CIA-10 ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ SerWou] [ sparc-kly[WORK]] [ Xenos ] 07:41 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal] 07:41 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 07:41 -!- [freenode-info] Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked, except to network staff, to services (NickServ, etc.), and to registered users who have unblocked them. Please see the freenode website for more information: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg 07:41 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 16 secs 09:48 -!- Xenos [n=stealth@80.240.208.39] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 09:56 -!- Xenos [n=stealth@80.240.208.39] has joined #t2 10:16 < SerWou> good morning 10:19 < SerWou> i did a symlink in /dev from /dev/md/1 -> /dev/md1 and finally got something uniform for my soft RAID with /dev/md0 and /dev/md1, but the symlink disappear after the reboot, and i have filesystem errors because the kernel can't mount the whole /etc/fstab, RAID aeras are absents. How make this symlink persistent ? 10:30 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr 10:30 < mtr> moin 10:33 < mtr> SerWou: devfs? 10:33 * Xenos is back (gone 00:36:28) 10:33 < SerWou> devfs yes 10:33 < SerWou> t2 2.1.0 10:33 < Xenos> hloall 10:34 < SerWou> hello Xenos 10:37 < mtr> SerWou: look in /etc/devfs.d/compat, do you have a MKOLDCOMPAT entry for md/.* devices? 10:38 < mtr> hi Xenos 10:38 -!- geekitus [n=geekitus@83.179.202.143] has joined #t2 10:39 < SerWou> mtr : i've got that : http://pastebin.com/434116 10:45 < mtr> add the lines for md devices: http://pastebin.com/434120 10:45 < SerWou> hoo, thanks ;) 10:46 < SerWou> so, what it will make exactly ? keep the symlinks i did in /dev ? 10:47 < mtr> SerWou: it tells devfsd to create the symlinks for you 10:49 < SerWou> ok 10:49 < SerWou> thanks 10:49 < SerWou> between, have you ever run RaidSoftware ? 10:51 < mtr> SerWou: do you have LOOKUP md/.* IGNORE in your devfsd.conf? probably you should comment this out 10:51 < Xenos> hmm 10:51 < Xenos> while running firefox.. 10:51 < Xenos> /opt/firefox/firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory 10:51 < mtr> SerWou: sorry, no linux raid experience 10:51 < SerWou> Xenos , do you have GRSEC ? ;) 10:51 < Xenos> ? 10:51 < Xenos> what's this? 10:52 < SerWou> a security linux kernel patch ? 10:52 < Xenos> em 10:52 < Xenos> yep 10:52 < Xenos> but 10:52 < Xenos> but libstdc++.so.6 installed... 10:53 < SerWou> that's the first time you run firefox ? or you ran it before and it was working ? 10:53 < Xenos> yeah, first time.. 10:53 < Xenos> i installed t2 yesterday 10:53 < SerWou> try "paxctl +c /opt/firefox/firefox-bin" and "paxctl +m /opt/firefox/firefox-bin" 10:54 < Xenos> zsh: command not found: paxctl 10:54 < Xenos> :) 10:54 < Xenos> i can symlink libstdc++.so.5 10:54 < Xenos> ) 10:54 < Xenos> it works.. 10:54 < SerWou> whereis paxctl, locate paxctl 10:55 < SerWou> HO ;) 10:55 < SerWou> mtr , i don't have "LOOKUP md/.* IGNORE" in devfsd.conf 10:57 < mtr> SerWou: ok (i have no t2 2.1 around, so i guess this is an obsolete relict in 2.2) 10:57 < SerWou> good ;) 10:57 < SerWou> Thanks for the help 10:58 < SerWou> i would like to paste my RAID problem here, maybe you will have any idea 10:58 < SerWou> 1. 10:58 < SerWou> when i reboot, i've got RAID errors, (i'm setup-ing RAID1 software with 2 IDE HDs) i have to comment lines who talk about /dev/md* in /etc/fstab, boot, than run "raidstart /dev/md*.." by hand, than mount "mount /dev/md.. /home/...." to get it working... quite heavy 10:59 < SerWou> RAID1 is on my kernel 10:59 < SerWou> cat /boot/kconfig_2.6.11.12-dist | grep RAID1 10:59 < SerWou> CONFIG_MD_RAID1=y 10:59 < SerWou> i don't know if it's directly linked to the symlink devfs thing 11:01 -!- menomc [n=amery@200.75.27.53] has joined #t2 11:01 -!- mnemoc [n=amery@200.75.27.47] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 11:03 -!- menomc is now known as mnemoc 11:04 < SerWou> hello mnemoc 11:04 * Xenos calls mnemoc 11:04 < Xenos> yeaahaaaa!! :> 11:05 < mtr> SerWou: hmm, guess i cannot be a real help for your raid, sorry 11:06 < SerWou> thanks anyway mtr , i will bug mnemoc ;) ;) 11:30 -!- geekitus [n=geekitus@83.179.202.143] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:36 < rxr> re 11:38 < SerWou> hy rxr 11:41 < rxr> hi SerWou 11:42 < SerWou> any experience in RAID software rxr ? 11:43 < mtr> moin rxr 11:44 < rxr> moin mtr 11:54 < CIA-10> rene * r13423 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnumeric/gnumeric.desc: * updated gnumeric (1.6.0 -> 1.6.1) 11:56 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.216.140.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 12:01 < valentin> moin 12:02 < rxr> moin valentin 12:03 -!- geekitus [n=geekitus@83.179.202.143] has joined #t2 12:03 [Users #t2] 12:03 [ _Ragnar_] [ jsaw ] [ rxr ] [ SerWou ] [ valentin] 12:03 [ CIA-10 ] [ mnemoc] [ sepp ] [ sparc-kly[g3] ] [ Xenos ] 12:03 [ geekitus] [ mtr ] [ sepp_] [ sparc-kly[WORK]] 12:03 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal] 12:04 < valentin> hi rxr, how is live in Lauenau ? 12:05 < valentin> life even 12:05 < rxr> as usual 12:08 < rxr> I think our google pagerank increased 12:08 < rxr> from 4 to 5 ,-) 12:08 < valentin> and there was some mail on the ml from someone i think we talked too at lwe 12:10 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.217.241.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 12:11 < rxr> valentin: I packaged ogre3d (this neues wetter woman at lwe asked for) in the meantime 12:13 < valentin> nice 12:13 < valentin> *brunch* 12:18 -!- geekitus [n=geekitus@83.179.202.143] has quit ["Parti"] 12:18 -!- geekitus [n=geekitus@83.179.202.143] has joined #t2 12:19 -!- misl [n=chatzill@213-84-160-172.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #t2 12:19 < misl> hi folks 12:19 < Xenos> hello, misl 12:20 < misl> hi Xenos 12:22 -!- geekitus [n=geekitus@83.179.202.143] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:23 -!- geekitus [n=geekitus@83.179.202.143] has joined #t2 12:30 -!- misl [n=chatzill@213-84-160-172.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68.5.1 [Firefox 1.0.7/20050915]"] 13:06 < rxr> http://golem.de/0511/41731.html 13:06 < rxr> ^- GPL code in Sonys rootkit ? 13:12 < SerWou> hehehe 13:38 < rxr> I have jam, physfs and lincity-ng pending for commit 13:38 < rxr> just desc cleanup needed 13:38 < rxr> just to prevent duplicate work ... 13:58 < CIA-10> rene * r13424 /trunk/package/develop/jam/ (. jam.cache jam.conf jam.desc): * added jam (2.5) - Yet another make-like program 14:04 < CIA-10> rene * r13425 /trunk/package/filesystem/physfs/ (. physfs.cache physfs.desc): * added physfs (1.0.1) - A library to provide abstract access to various archives 14:15 < CIA-10> rene * r13426 /trunk/package/games/lincity-ng/ (. lincity-ng.cache lincity-ng.conf lincity-ng.desc): * added lincity-ng (1.0.2) - A city simulation game 14:37 < CIA-10> rene * r13427 /trunk/package/base/man-pages/man-pages.desc: * updated man-pages (2.13 -> 2.14) 14:38 < CIA-10> rene * r13428 /trunk/package/network/scmxx/scmxx.desc: * updated scmxx (0.8.1 -> 0.8.2) 14:38 < CIA-10> rene * r13429 /trunk/package/gnome2/libgnomemm/libgnomemm.desc: * updated libgnomemm (2.12.0 -> 2.12.1) 14:40 < CIA-10> rene * r13430 /trunk/package/audio/streamripper/streamripper.desc: * updated streamripper (1.61.15 -> 1.61.16) 14:42 < CIA-10> rene * r13431 /trunk/package/gnome2/quick-lounge-applet/quick-lounge-applet.desc: * updated quick-lounge-applet (2.12.0 -> 2.12.1) 14:50 < CIA-10> rene * r13432 /trunk/package/base/device-mapper/device-mapper.desc: * updated device-mapper (1.01.04 -> 1.02.00) 15:02 -!- Xenos [n=stealth@80.240.208.39] has quit ["There is intelligent life out there..."] 15:04 -!- Xenos [n=stealth@80.240.208.34] has joined #t2 15:16 -!- VX [n=stealth@80.240.208.34] has joined #t2 15:16 -!- Xenos [n=stealth@80.240.208.34] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 15:16 -!- VX is now known as Xenos 15:18 -!- Xenos [n=stealth@80.240.208.34] has quit [Client Quit] 15:18 < mnemoc> moin 15:19 -!- Xenos [n=stealth@80.240.208.34] has joined #t2 15:20 < mnemoc> SerWou: we have grsec, but not PAX yet. 15:21 < Xenos> mnemoc: :) 15:21 * Xenos is happy :> 15:22 < mnemoc> hi happy-xenos 15:22 < Xenos> :) 15:23 < Xenos> but 15:23 < Xenos> did u see some msgs while running network? 15:23 < Xenos> network works fine 15:23 < mnemoc> there is a duplication on network start 15:23 < Xenos> hm 15:24 < mnemoc> hotplug does it once, and network start does it again 15:24 < mnemoc> so, don't do network start :) 15:24 < Xenos> ? 15:24 < Xenos> remove network from all runlevels? 15:24 < mnemoc> ack 15:24 < Xenos> ack - ? 15:24 < Xenos> :) 15:24 < mnemoc> hotplug is doing it 15:24 < mnemoc> agree 15:25 < mnemoc> acknowledge 15:25 < Xenos> :) 15:26 < mnemoc> there is no good solution yet for your issue 15:26 < Xenos> ? 15:26 < mnemoc> " some msgs while running network" 15:26 < Xenos> ) 15:29 -!- keinek [n=keinek@201.250.236.98] has joined #t2 15:29 < keinek> hi guys 15:29 < keinek> morning 15:29 < mnemoc> hi keinek 15:29 * Xenos welcomes keinek 15:29 < Xenos> mnemoc: stone ownz :) 15:30 < keinek> rxr, i need pictures of t2 for a magazine, the magazine is Linux+ http://www.lpmagazine.org 15:30 < keinek> mnemoc give to me two .pdf with info for the note. 15:30 < keinek> but i like some picture. 15:31 < mnemoc> i'm inocent 15:31 < keinek> i write now the note for the magazine, about t2. 15:31 < keinek> :) 15:31 < keinek> you know... t2 is better than gentoo, gentoo and all linuxs is a shit. 15:31 < keinek> you need t2. 15:32 < keinek> and bla bla bla 15:32 < Xenos> yeah 15:32 < keinek> the people is happy reading that. 15:32 * Xenos agrred with keinek 15:32 * Xenos hates gentoo & python :> 15:32 < keinek> haha 15:33 < keinek> so i need pictures for the magazine 15:33 < Xenos> keinek: screenshots? 15:34 < Xenos> or logos? 15:34 < keinek> Xenos, no.... logos... and stuff like graphics with pda. 15:34 < Xenos> i see.. 15:35 < keinek> what logo is the real logo of t2? 15:35 < Xenos> but i can give u nice screen, that i made while configuring T2 :> 15:35 < Xenos> hm 15:35 < Xenos> www.t2-project.org ? ^_^ 15:35 < keinek> i can take all ? 15:35 < valentin> re 15:36 < keinek> but i need the word of rxr 15:36 < Xenos> hello, valentin 15:36 < keinek> i dont like to have a fight for the rights of the t2's logo. 15:36 < mnemoc> valentin: keinek wants to use images from t2-en.pdf on an article about t2 he is writting for http://www.lpmagazine.org 15:36 < keinek> :P 15:36 < keinek> thanks mnemoc 15:41 < mnemoc> http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/ 15:44 < valentin> mnemoc: go for it, but under one condition: make sure graphic's copyright remains at the t2 project 15:45 < valentin> s/ mnemoc / keinek 15:45 < mnemoc> keinek: ----^ 15:46 < valentin> when writing an article for a magazine, you usualy grant them the full copyright over that article for the money you get. 15:46 < valentin> so it is not legal for you to reuse that text in other ways 15:47 < valentin> but we want to use that graphic again 15:58 -!- geekitus [n=geekitus@83.179.202.143] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:59 < karasz> moin everyone 15:59 * Xenos welcomes karasz :) 16:00 -!- geekitus [n=geekitus@83.179.202.143] has joined #t2 16:00 < mnemoc> hi bronchitisman 16:01 * karasz receives wellcoming and thanks for it :) 16:02 < karasz> hi mnemoc 16:05 < Xenos> :) 16:06 < mnemoc> hi karasz :) 16:07 < karasz> how was linux expo? 16:15 -!- keinek_ [n=keinek@201.250.237.48] has joined #t2 16:16 < _Ragnar_> valentin: afaik at least in german law it is not possible to sign away your copyright that way 16:17 < valentin> _Ragnar_: that is not true. In fact you hold Uhrheberschaft 16:17 < valentin> but not copyright 16:18 < valentin> which contains the right to distribute the work 16:18 < valentin> i.e. you cannot sell one article to many magazines 16:19 < _Ragnar_> afaik you could, but that would mean none of the magazines would probably accept any later submissions from you 16:20 < _Ragnar_> unless you work for 1st magazine 16:29 < karasz> guys what happened to irc logs? 16:30 < karasz> they stop on october 15 16:31 -!- keinek [n=keinek@201.250.236.98] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:55 < valentin> ouhm 17:18 -!- keinek_ [n=keinek@201.250.237.48] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:50 < CIA-10> amery * r13433 /trunk/package/develop/mono/mono.desc: * updated mono (1.1.9.2 -> 1.1.10) 17:52 < CIA-10> amery * r13434 /trunk/package/develop/mono-xsp/mono-xsp.desc: * updated mono-xsp (1.1.9.2 -> 1.1.10) 17:52 < CIA-10> amery * r13435 /trunk/package/develop/mod_mono/mod_mono.desc: * updated mod_mono (1.1.9.2 -> 1.1.10) 17:53 < rxr> karasz: irclogs should be fixed 17:53 < rxr> an sync account was locked 17:55 < rxr> moin mnemoc 17:55 < mnemoc> moin rxr 18:09 < karasz> moin rxr 18:09 < karasz> just the guy i wanted to hear about :) 18:10 < karasz> rxr now is my last chanse, should I save something from openpower? 18:10 < rxr> nope ,-) 18:10 < karasz> goof 18:11 < karasz> good 18:11 < karasz> did you get the memo? 18:12 < rxr> mnemoc: I moved irclogs to: http://www.t2-project.org/irclogs/ 18:12 < rxr> to improve our future google rank 18:14 < rxr> karasz: oehm - I see no memo 18:14 < mnemoc> rxr: good :) 18:14 < karasz> nevermind i try to find it again 18:15 < karasz> here it is http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/debian-ppc64-devel/2005-September/000193.html 18:15 < karasz> it is kinda long but i guess it worth to read 18:15 < karasz> ;) 18:16 < karasz> by the way guys did you noticed the rank on distrowatch? 18:16 < karasz> 69 T2 71= 18:17 < mnemoc> 69 :) 18:18 * mnemoc wonders if something like T2 can get top 10 one day 18:18 < karasz> hmmm 18:19 < karasz> T2 by itself i doubt, but some T2 powered distro for beginners why not... 18:19 < rxr> I think even t2 18:19 < rxr> the included generic or desktop are very well 18:21 < mnemoc> Error logs from rafaella-2.1-stable-x86-pentium4-azazel: 18:21 < mnemoc> 329 builds total, 322 completed fine, 0 with errors. 18:21 < mnemoc> ^--- azazel 0.3 to be tested on my laptop tomorrow 18:22 < mnemoc> 100% target based 18:24 < rxr> ,-) 18:24 < mnemoc> my desktop target :) 18:28 < CIA-10> rene * r13436 /trunk/package/textproc/htdig/ (. htdig.cache htdig.desc): * added htdig (3.2.0b6) - WWW Search Engine Software 18:33 < jsaw> another logo proposal: http://htp20.homeip.net/~jsaw/t2-sde-1.jpg 18:34 < mnemoc> ugly :( 18:34 * mnemoc hides 18:34 < jsaw> :) 18:35 < jsaw> gotta pick up my daughter, cu later 18:37 < mnemoc> cu jsaw 18:39 < CIA-10> amery * r13437 /trunk/package/develop/mono-doc/mono-doc.desc: * updated mono-doc (1.1.9 -> 1.1.10) 18:40 < karasz> did you guys thought about a maskot for T2? 18:41 < mnemoc> which do you propose? 18:42 < mnemoc> i would love a maskot, and a logo with it 18:42 < karasz> definitely a penguin with pikes 18:43 < karasz> i mean in the end is a Tux right? and you say that your closest relative is OpenBSD.... 18:44 < karasz> it is kinda cool but now that i think more about it, it may be too complicated for a mascot... 18:44 < karasz> what do you think? 18:45 < karasz> or you were thinking of an abstract one? 18:47 * karasz wonders about a relation between bronchitis and lack of reasoning 18:47 < karasz> i don't know, but i kinda like that T2 18:48 < karasz> it is simple and apart... 18:49 < mnemoc> karasz: T2 is not linux 18:50 < SerWou> moin mnemoc ;) 18:50 < karasz> that is true :( 18:50 < mnemoc> moin SerWou 18:50 < mnemoc> SerWou: read the log, i said you something about grsec 18:53 < SerWou> SerWou: we have grsec, but not PAX yet. 18:53 < SerWou> ok 18:53 < mnemoc> to use pax, first you need to build your target using PIE 18:53 < mnemoc> which doesn't work fine currently 18:54 < SerWou> i see 18:54 < mnemoc> once that is done, you need paxctl which is a helper to tell the kernel what to randomize and what don't. 18:54 < mnemoc> but grsec is not just pax 18:54 < SerWou> i don't know what grsec do exactly too 18:55 < SerWou> but the error i saw remenber a grsec error i had a couple of time on my server 18:55 < mnemoc> http://www.grsecurity.org/ :) 18:56 < SerWou> i will check it later 18:56 < SerWou> got a RAID software issue for today ;) 18:57 < SerWou> maybe you know about that : 18:57 < SerWou> http://pastebin.com/434134 18:58 < mnemoc> so add raidstart to etc/rc.d/init.d/system .... close to vgchange from lvm 19:01 < SerWou> humm 19:02 < SerWou> in this part of the script ? http://pastebin.com/434489 19:02 < SerWou> my commands are "raidstart /dev/md0" "raidstart /dev/md1" "raidstart /dev/md2" 19:05 < mnemoc> for x in /dev/md/*; do [ -e $x ] && raidstart $x; done ? 19:06 < SerWou> that's japonese for me 19:06 < SerWou> ;) 19:06 < mnemoc> right after the if that checks for lvm 19:06 < mnemoc> bash scripting is not japonese :) 19:07 < SerWou> before " title "Activating Volume Groups..." " ? 19:07 < mnemoc> no 19:07 < mnemoc> that's inside LVM if 19:07 < SerWou> i had troubles with bash scripts when i was young, one rapped me when i went back to home after school and stoll all my sweets 19:09 < SerWou> give me the list on the pastebin url if you can 19:09 < mnemoc> right after the end of your paste 19:09 < mnemoc> for x in /dev/md/*; do 19:10 < mnemoc> if [ -e $x ]; then 19:10 < mnemoc> title "Activating RAID $x..." 19:11 < mnemoc> raidstart $x || error=$? 19:11 < mnemoc> status 19:11 < mnemoc> fi 19:11 < mnemoc> done 19:11 < mnemoc> that should work 19:19 < SerWou> ok 19:19 < SerWou> what do you think about that : http://pastebin.com/434504 ;) 19:20 < mnemoc> the 'done' is unporperly indented, but looks fine 19:21 < SerWou> http://pastebin.com/434506 19:21 < SerWou> lol 19:21 < mnemoc> ehm 19:21 < mnemoc> wait 19:21 < mnemoc> move the 'status' over 'swap', over your code snap 19:23 < SerWou> line 37 should be moved to ? 19:24 < mnemoc> no! 19:24 < mnemoc> 42 to 30 19:25 < valentin> hi 19:25 < SerWou> i'm so a bitch in script ;) 19:25 < SerWou> hello valentin 19:25 < valentin> who is Alexandre Paes ? someone from here ? 19:26 < SerWou> finally "http://pastebin.com/434511" ;) 19:26 < mnemoc> valentin: will you apply them? don't forget to remove the duplicated [D] 19:26 < valentin> mnemoc: i din't test them yet. 19:27 < valentin> i think i will not commit cache files, too. Or should I ? 19:27 < mnemoc> they seem to be real.... why not? 19:29 < valentin> ok 19:30 < valentin> +var_append makeinstopt ' ' "PREFIX=$root/usr" 19:30 < mnemoc> PREFIX=$root/$prefix 19:30 < valentin> there is another variable for that, right ? 19:31 < valentin> yep 19:31 < SerWou> thanks mnemoc , i will try it and keep you in touch 19:32 < mnemoc> SerWou: did it work? 19:32 < mnemoc> what's a 'freat' distribution? 19:32 < rxr> valentin: yes commit 19:32 < rxr> valentin: especially .cache files 19:32 < mnemoc> wb rxr 19:34 < SerWou> i will test it at the next reboot mnemoc , maybe tomorrow, i have to finish some stuff on that server first 19:34 < mnemoc> jsaw: did my change to embutils/pkg_bash.conf solved `which` problem? 19:34 < mnemoc> SerWou: good luck :) 19:35 < SerWou> maybe the mnemoc force be with me ;) 19:36 < mnemoc> *g* 19:36 < karasz> mnemoc: freat may be great with an *** adjective in front? 19:36 < valentin> rxr: i'll do those two modifications and commit 19:36 < mnemoc> i don't have much 'force' to share :p 19:36 < karasz> mnemoc: more you share more you have.. :) 19:36 < mnemoc> valentin: please comment those changes on the reply 19:37 < mnemoc> karasz: :) 19:37 < sepp_> freat is "great" if you hit f which is on many keyboards left of g :) 19:37 -!- sepp_ is now known as sepp 19:37 < sepp> moin :) 19:37 < mnemoc> sepp: :) 19:38 < valentin> hi sepp 19:38 < mnemoc> sepp: but k is also 'close' to t ,-) 19:39 < sepp> lol 19:39 < sepp> hi valentin 19:39 < valentin> maybe that is a word game with those too words 19:39 < mnemoc> what do you think about the idea of a maskot? a maskot logo can be highly more interesting than {'t','2','\0'} characters 19:40 < rxr> mnemoc: ack 19:40 < valentin> i'd like to have a nice mascot 19:40 < sepp> a caterpillar sitting on a tea? laef :P 19:41 < mnemoc> what's the favorite 'hippie' mascot? t2 is the favorite 'hippie' car :p 19:41 < valentin> a T2 bus :) 19:41 < mnemoc> like a transformer? 19:41 < karasz> sepp: s/tea/mushroom/ 19:42 < valentin> mnemoc: this one: 19:43 < sepp> a caterpillar eating a psychedelic mushroom with strange dreams? 19:43 < valentin> http://www.bulli.org/ 19:46 < mnemoc> sepp: i think we have to find the mascot first, and then characterize it. having a mascot we can make lot of different logos using it. 19:47 < karasz> but to find a mascot shouldn't you think of one and only one caracteristic of T2 that sets it apart? 19:48 < valentin> how about a cute penguine *g* 19:48 < karasz> could it be its morphing capabilities? 19:48 < mnemoc> .oO 19:49 < valentin> bchunk in extra/filesystem ? 19:49 < mnemoc> extra/tool i think 19:49 < mnemoc> but i hate our current categorizations :p 19:49 < mnemoc> karasz: what do you see when you look at a caterpillar? 19:49 < valentin> yes. imo we should think about multiple categorys per package 19:50 < valentin> and why always this 'extra' ? 19:50 < mnemoc> valentin: that's the idea, to have only one, use the repo name :p 19:50 < karasz> catepillar? 19:51 < mnemoc> valentin: i prefer a tree, to be able to do desktop/* or desktop/kde/* on package selection.... each level more grained 19:51 < karasz> lots of legs i guess.... 19:51 < valentin> mnemoc: well, if we'd do that, then we could skip that flag anyway 19:51 < mnemoc> desktop/kde/core .... 19:51 < mnemoc> multimedia/audio/library 19:52 < mnemoc> sepp: why do you think we are like a caterpillar? btw, i find it quite cool. 19:55 < karasz> caterpillars are also hairy... 19:55 < karasz> slow moving 19:55 < mnemoc> http://www.froghatstudios.com/art/caterpillar.jpg <--- LOL 19:56 < mnemoc> karasz: slim and tight, never fat :) 19:57 < mnemoc> simple 19:57 < karasz> hmmm never fat? 19:57 < karasz> simple yes 19:57 < mnemoc> i'm trying to map tit to t2 19:57 < sepp> mnemoc: i dont think so, but why is linux like a fat penguin ? 19:58 < mnemoc> fat and woosie 19:58 < karasz> sepp: because it is content 19:58 < karasz> http://www.sjbaker.org/tux/ 19:58 < karasz> ^^ that is why it is fat :) 19:59 < valentin> hm, where to put bchunk ? 19:59 < valentin> still into filesystem ? 20:00 < mnemoc> what do you think about a female human-like caterpillar? 20:00 < karasz> mnemoc: catepillars ? 20:00 < karasz> http://jrscience.wcp.muohio.edu/Photos/Catepillar.jpeg 20:00 < karasz> ^^ you do not wat that :) 20:00 < mnemoc> valentin: i think, yes. 20:01 < mnemoc> karasz: think in comics, all animals and insects can take human form 20:01 < karasz> that is right 20:01 < karasz> so you want some superhero like stuff? 20:01 < mnemoc> nah 20:01 < mnemoc> a mutant :p 20:01 < karasz> ack 20:02 < karasz> hmm mutant catepillar :) 20:02 * karasz wonders about its capabilities :) 20:02 < mnemoc> a girl caterpillar :p 20:02 -!- MisterN [n=MrN@p549CEAD5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 20:02 < karasz> switch legs with arms and you get a powerfull hug :D 20:02 < MisterN> hi 20:02 < mnemoc> there become something that fly after some time 20:03 < mnemoc> they* 20:03 < sepp> http://languages.arts.unsw.edu.au/japan/Andrew%20Beveridge_large/colour_japanese_catepillar.jpg <- radioactive cate 20:03 < karasz> butterflys are gracious and all 20:03 < karasz> but power? 20:03 < CIA-10> valentin * r13438 /trunk/package/filesystem/bchunk/ (. bchunk.cache bchunk.conf bchunk.desc): Alexandre Paes * added package bchunk (1.2.0) 20:04 < MisterN> karasz: you know, they make the weather. 20:04 < karasz> though i like the metaphore of catepillar becoming butterflys... 20:04 < mnemoc> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Emperor_Gum_Moth.jpg <--- this one looks strong 20:04 < valentin> prefix="opt/silc" 20:05 < mnemoc> valentin: why not? 20:05 < valentin> without any $root stuff ? 20:06 < mnemoc> prefix never have $root 20:06 < mnemoc> cp foo $root/$prefix/something/ 20:08 < valentin> sorry, confused :) 20:08 < valentin> i confused it with PREFIX for make 20:08 < mnemoc> rxr,valentin: what do you think about the caterpillar? 20:08 < valentin> the cook or as a gerneral concept ? 20:09 < karasz> mnemoc: http://www.hcjb.org/docs/saint/7-8_class/images/catepillar.jpg 20:09 < valentin> karasz: that one looks poisoned 20:10 < mnemoc> valentin: for a mascot 20:10 < valentin> well, caterpillars can be kind of cute 20:10 < valentin> and it would be quite unique i think 20:10 < valentin> mnemoc: i like that emperor moth 20:11 < karasz> it is poisoned 20:11 < valentin> mnemoc: not as a mascot, of course 20:11 < mnemoc> :) 20:12 < sepp> http://www.tomarma.com/Stock/Bugs/Closeups/Caterpillar.jpg :D 20:13 < karasz> http://www.jemsweb.com/exhibit_images/camphotos/mothgirl.jpg 20:13 < mnemoc> does anyone know to draw? 20:14 < sepp> with brush and color? 20:14 < karasz> :( 20:15 -!- Xenos [n=stealth@80.240.208.34] has quit ["There is intelligent life out there..."] 20:15 < mnemoc> sepp: with anything capable of doing a mascot character 20:15 < karasz> mnemoc: you have an ideea? 20:16 < karasz> maybe put a contest on www.t2-project.org 20:16 < sepp> well, i know howto sketch and model things 20:16 < mnemoc> i would love a humanoid character, and a caterpillar sounds like a great candidate 20:17 < CIA-10> valentin * r13439 /trunk/package/network/silc-client/ (. silc-client.cache silc-client.conf silc-client.desc): Alexandre Paes * added package silc-client (1.0.1) 20:18 < sepp> if we could agree on a idea ... 20:18 < karasz> humanoid +catepillar +tuxedo ? 20:19 < valentin> nice idea 20:19 < karasz> white gloves and stuff 20:19 < valentin> this alice in wonderland thing - he had a tuxedo too ? 20:19 < karasz> nope 20:19 < karasz> it was more like turkish 20:19 < valentin> karasz: any picture of the AiW one ? 20:20 < karasz> with that speciffic turkish hat and a water pipe 20:20 < valentin> ah i remember 20:20 < valentin> well, that one was not very sympathic, anyway 20:21 < karasz> what do you call a joben in english? 20:21 < karasz> that long black hat from 1800? 20:22 -!- Xenos [n=stealth@80.240.208.34] has joined #t2 20:24 -!- VX [n=stealth@80.240.208.34] has joined #t2 20:25 < karasz> i found it 20:25 < karasz> http://www.dilishop.nextra.ro/graphics/22570.jpg 20:25 < karasz> that is a joben 20:25 < karasz> so humanoid catepillar with tuxedo and joben 20:25 < karasz> ? 20:25 < karasz> how does it sound? 20:26 < sepp> like a mutant :p 20:26 < karasz> that was the ideea... 20:27 < sepp> :) 20:29 < karasz> joben=top hat 20:29 < karasz> http://www.hcandersen-homepage.dk/andersens-top-hat/HPIM6525.JPG top hat 20:30 < karasz> i think it must have one because it conferes distiction... 20:30 < karasz> it sets it appart 20:31 < rxr> http://www.csszengarden.com/?cssfile=/188/188.css&page=0 20:33 -!- Xenos [n=stealth@80.240.208.34] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20:33 -!- VX [n=stealth@80.240.208.34] has quit ["There is intelligent life out there..."] 20:33 -!- Xenos [n=stealth@80.240.208.34] has joined #t2 20:33 -!- Xenos [n=stealth@80.240.208.34] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:35 -!- Xenos [n=stealth@80.240.208.34] has joined #t2 20:35 < karasz> mnemoc: ? 20:36 < mnemoc> re 20:36 < mnemoc> karasz: ? 20:36 < karasz> what do you think? 20:36 * Xenos is away: outside 20:36 < karasz> so humanoid catepillar with tuxedo and top hat 20:37 < mnemoc> karasz: promising :) 20:37 < mnemoc> rxr: doing web programming? 20:37 < sepp> something like http://www.pixar.com/featurefilms/abl/index.html ? 20:38 < sepp> i mean the kind of human cg animal... 20:38 < mnemoc> i would prefer female and cute ,-) 20:38 < mnemoc> like the ant or like the caterpillar? :) 20:38 < sepp> ok, i mean in this style 20:38 < mnemoc> but yes, i like that style 20:39 < karasz> catepillar should be not fat, i guess... 20:39 < mnemoc> ack 20:39 < karasz> slim 20:39 < sepp> that doable 20:39 < karasz> but female? 20:39 < karasz> why female mnemoc? 20:40 < mnemoc> if it's human, and i can choose between man and woman, i choose woman. ,-) personal choices 20:40 < karasz> i thought more along asexuate type 20:41 < mnemoc> let see what sepp can do :) 20:41 < karasz> because is more doable in line scketch 20:41 < mnemoc> ok 20:41 -!- geekitus [n=geekitus@83.179.202.143] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:41 < mnemoc> no problem 20:41 < karasz> let' see 20:42 < mnemoc> what tools do you use for such quests? 20:42 < mnemoc> i have 6 targets with names that point to humanoid mytholicial beeings :) 20:43 < mnemoc> not all female btw 20:43 < karasz> mnemoc: do you have a Gheea target? 20:44 < mnemoc> i don't even know what that is :p 20:44 < karasz> O_O 20:45 < karasz> gheea, the mother of all 20:45 < karasz> mother earth 20:45 < sepp> even wikipedia does not know 20:45 < mnemoc> aha.... language problem :) 20:46 < valentin> karasz: i now gaia 20:46 < mnemoc> valentin: ack 20:46 < karasz> yep 20:46 < karasz> language problem sorry 20:47 < mnemoc> mnemosyne is the mother of my other targets :) 20:47 < karasz> here it came from greek 20:47 < karasz> Gaea 20:48 < mnemoc> sedu,lamassu, sheba, menrva and azazel 20:49 < mnemoc> well... sheba is a realm, not a character 20:49 < karasz> yes but in a way sedu,lamassu, sheba, menrva and azazel are children of gaea 20:49 < karasz> do you see my point? 20:50 < karasz> gaea is to all those what T2 is to your targets :) 20:50 < mnemoc> different cultures ,-) 20:51 < SerWou> "différentes cultures" ;) 20:51 < karasz> that is true mnemoc 20:51 < karasz> they belong to different cultures 20:51 < karasz> but still 20:52 < karasz> and gaea is female ;) 20:52 < karasz> thou i do not know how cute she is... 20:53 -!- geekitus [n=geekitus@83.179.202.143] has joined #t2 20:53 < mnemoc> for T2 i like the humanoid caterpillar with tuxido and hat ,-) 20:53 < sepp> ok ok ;) 20:54 < mnemoc> you can name your next target gheea :) 20:55 < karasz> i could not dare that mnemoc since my next target will be mother to none 20:55 < karasz> anyway along the discution mnemoc peek at http://karasz.pastebin.ca/29147 20:56 < mnemoc> yes, here she is called pachamama 20:56 < karasz> i didn't know that, and i find it fascinating... 20:56 < mnemoc> interesting thing is the common meaning of 'mama' with indoeuropean cultures 20:57 * karasz should read more about Latin American culture 20:57 < MisterN> mnemoc: in how far? 20:57 < mnemoc> MisterN: ? 20:57 < karasz> mnemoc: i think that is deeper that that 20:57 < MisterN> mnemoc: the mama-fact. 20:58 < MisterN> there are many common words :D 20:58 < karasz> hungarian is not indo european as far as i know... 20:58 < karasz> and they have `mama` 20:58 < mnemoc> :) 20:58 < karasz> though it may be a recent adition 20:58 < mnemoc> same meaning? 20:58 < karasz> since they have another word too for that 20:59 < karasz> yep 20:59 < karasz> same meaning 20:59 < karasz> edesanya=mama=mother 21:00 < karasz> funny they allways add edes in front of anya 21:00 < karasz> meaning sweet 21:00 < karasz> edesanya=sweetmother 21:00 < karasz> but enough of that ;) 21:00 < karasz> gotago 21:01 < karasz> cu tomorrow 21:01 < mnemoc> :) 21:01 < mnemoc> cu karasz 21:01 < mnemoc> MisterN: which other transcultural word do you know? 21:01 < sepp> bye bye karasz 21:02 < sepp> aa :) 21:04 < MisterN> mnemoc: oh well.. ok, i admit: none. but i could get my allknowing book :) 21:04 < mnemoc> MisterN: :) 21:04 < MisterN> and i do. 21:05 < mnemoc> http://www.notam02.no/~hcholm/altlang/ <--- the allknowing book 21:06 < MisterN> mine is called: "DUDEN Das Herkunftswörterbuch (Etymologie der deutschen Sprache)" :) 21:09 < mnemoc> does mother has an ethimology there? 21:09 < mnemoc> etymologie* 21:09 < MisterN> surely 21:10 < mnemoc> latin or greek for sure 21:10 < mnemoc> but why russian and quechua? 21:10 < MisterN> latin and greek _are_ indogerman iirc? 21:11 < mnemoc> indogerman *g*.... you always trying to change history :p 21:12 < MisterN> well i admit i don't understand the whole language developments due to a lack of knowledge 21:13 < MisterN> in my book, it is traced to old-indian (the asian subcontinent :), latin AND greek. nice, eh? 21:13 < MisterN> it is related to "mama" 21:14 -!- geekitus [n=geekitus@83.179.202.143] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:15 < mnemoc> http://www.proel.org/mundo.html <--- great linguistic resource, but in spanish 21:16 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Xenos 21:16 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Xenos 21:17 < MisterN> nice graphics 21:24 < mnemoc> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-World_language :) 21:26 < MisterN> it seems practically nothing stayed the same. 21:28 < mnemoc> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Map-of-human-migrations.jpg 21:29 < MisterN> thanks for the nice wikipedia session you made possible :) 21:29 < mnemoc> :) 21:30 < mnemoc> wikipedia is everyday a better resource 21:32 < rxr> mnemoc: ,-) 21:33 < mnemoc> rxr: hey! ... you said nothing about the caterpillar thing 21:35 * rxr was working 21:36 < mnemoc> if you have a minute, please write some lines on that topic 21:36 * Xenos is back (gone 01:00:20) 21:37 < sepp> i would like to know if we at least agree on the general idea - before i waste time doing it 21:37 < mnemoc> sepp: ack 21:39 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/handbook.html 21:39 < rxr> ^- handbook now in the t2-project.org domain to future raise the google rank ,-) 21:39 < rxr> mnemoc: ouhm - that is a lot to read scrollback, right ? 21:41 < mnemoc> rxr: to summarize, sepp proposed a caterpillar as mascot. at the end of the conversation a humanoid caterpillar with tuxido and hat was 'offered' 21:42 < rxr> graphic demo somewhere? 21:43 < sepp> general ides is pixar "a bugs life" style 21:43 < rxr> sure - would be nice to see some sketch of it ,-9 21:44 < mnemoc> we could start with a simple caterpillar, and after some time get the wonderfully modelled mascot 21:45 < sepp> sure, but it takes quite some time and i would like to know if we can agree on the general idea ... 21:46 < mnemoc> rxr? 21:47 < rxr> yep ? 21:47 < rxr> ah 21:47 < mnemoc> *G* 21:48 < rxr> yes 21:48 < rxr> might be vry nice 21:48 < mnemoc> :) 21:55 < Xenos> heh 21:57 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.212.227.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 22:01 < rxr> so+ 22:01 < rxr> re 22:05 -!- sepp__ [n=sepp@p213.54.206.48.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 22:06 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.212.227.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:14 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.216.140.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 22:15 -!- sepp__ is now known as sepp 22:20 < sepp> damn router ... 22:21 < sepp> so - should i start to play with the caterpillar idea this weekend? 22:31 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.195.201.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 22:31 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.206.48.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 22:32 -!- sepp_ is now known as sepp 22:40 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.195.201.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:41 < rxr> yes 22:42 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.205.180.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 22:52 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.205.180.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:55 < rxr> btw. I right now tweak t2-project.org css to look better 22:59 -!- valentin [n=valentin@port-212-202-41-64.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 23:00 -!- karasz [n=chatzill@80.97.102.202] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:03 -!- valentin [n=valentin@port-212-202-40-95.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #t2 23:04 < valentin> re 23:04 < valentin> damn reconnect 23:04 < valentin> did i miss sth ? 23:11 < rxr> don't think so 23:19 < jsaw> re 23:20 < valentin> hi jsaw 23:20 * valentin soon entering sleepmode 23:23 < jsaw> hi valentin 23:32 < valentin> cu 23:34 -!- Xenos [n=stealth@80.240.208.34] has quit ["There is intelligent life out there..."] 23:34 < rxr> n8 valentin 23:37 -!- TheBeast [n=io@unaffiliated/thebeast] has joined #t2 23:37 < TheBeast> hey 23:39 < jsaw> hi TheBeast 23:40 -!- Xenos [n=stealth@80.240.208.34] has joined #t2 23:42 < TheBeast> is it worth to install t2? 23:42 * TheBeast ex Gentoo user:D 23:44 < jsaw> hehe 23:44 < jsaw> Xenos: you just installed T2... 23:45 < Xenos> ;) 23:45 < Xenos> yeah 23:46 < Xenos> but i built my own iso :> 23:46 < jsaw> TheBeast: lemma quote Xenos: 23:46 < Xenos> about 2 days of building.. 23:46 < jsaw> 22:58 * Xenos is on T2 23:46 < jsaw> 22:59 < Xenos> the fastest distro that i used ;) 23:47 < jsaw> (two days ago) 23:47 < Xenos> :) 23:47 < Xenos> hm 23:47 < Xenos> i think, i'll go to sleep 23:47 < Xenos> 'night all 23:47 * Xenos is away: dropped to bed.. 23:48 < jsaw> Xenos: cu 23:48 < Xenos> bye ;) 23:48 < TheBeast> the fastest distro I ever used is CRUX 23:48 < TheBeast> :) 23:48 < TheBeast> was, actually 23:50 < jsaw> TheBeast: I can only recommend that you try it. 23:51 < jsaw> or do you want to know some more specific stuff? --- Log closed Sat Nov 19 00:00:00 2005