--- Log opened Tue Nov 15 00:00:59 2005
00:01 < _Ragnar_> wb
00:02 < mnemoc> thx _Ragnar_ 
00:04 < mnemoc> rxr: t2-en.pdf... icecream?
00:07 < rxr> yeah
00:07 < mnemoc> tested by someone?
00:08 < rxr> http://wiki.kde.org/icecream
00:08 < mnemoc> 0# ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg minimal
00:08 < mnemoc> Error logs from minimal-2.1-stable-x86-64-generic:
00:08 < mnemoc> 166 builds total, 166 completed fine, 0 with errors.
00:08 < rxr> mnemoc: who cares - I used it once and when one asks it is integration in a matter of minutes ...
00:09 < rxr> so - 70 de and 50 en sheets are finished in some minutes ...
00:10 < rxr> and stuff packed - then I'm off
00:10 < mnemoc> i :)
00:10 < mnemoc> -i
00:10 < mnemoc> perl: usr/lib64/perl5/5.8.6 <--- uhm
00:10 < rxr> yes ?
00:10 < mnemoc> lib64 instead of lib
00:10 < rxr> yeah
00:11  * mnemoc looking for anything missing to merge
00:11 < rxr> it is a 53bit arch with multilib, right ?
00:11 < mnemoc> on perl
00:11 < mnemoc> i'm diffing 2.1.0 vs. 2.1-stable flists
00:11 < rxr> if you don't do so you have to patch perl module packages badly
00:11 < rxr> and there are binary modules also, right ?
00:11 < mnemoc> 2.1.0 minimal had perl on usr/lib
00:12 < _Ragnar_> perl has binary modules
00:12 < rxr> mnemoc: yes - this lib64 is explicitly intended by me
00:12 < mnemoc> uhm
00:13 < rxr> do you want it right or hardcoded /lib ?
00:13 < rxr> just working or to patch every third perl module package ?
00:13 < mnemoc> i just wanted to keep prefix _frozen_ between 2.1.x
00:13 < rxr> this is a fix
00:14 < rxr> and only affects 64bit platforms that have not been released with 2.1.0
00:14 < rxr> and fixes powerpc64 and sparc64 ,-)
00:14 < mnemoc> good point
00:15 < mnemoc> but there are other bin-only packages, which will expect lib64. but we decided to have lib/lib32.
00:15 < mnemoc> so, having perl on usr/lib64 is an inconcistensy
00:15 < rxr> where is lib32?
00:16 < rxr> we do not have such a thing
00:16 < mnemoc> .oO
00:16 < mnemoc> oh
00:16  * mnemoc puzzled
00:16  * mnemoc needs coffee
00:17  * rxr too - in the morning
00:17 < rxr> after 4h and a bit sleep
00:17 < _Ragnar_> :)
00:18 < mnemoc> rxr: about t2-en.... isn't better to add our sponsor as a logo on the side instead of part of the footer?
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00:23 < rxr> mnemoc: now they gone thru the laser ,-)
00:24 < mnemoc> next time :9
00:24 < mnemoc> :)
00:24 < rxr> yep
00:24 < rxr> when we have more sponsors ,-)
00:24 < rxr> cu
00:24 < rxr> n8 all
00:24 < mnemoc> n8 rxr :)
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04:11 < rxr> re
04:19 < rxr> so - forgot to print exactcode pr papers ,-)
04:19 < rxr> only flushed 70+50 t2 flyers to the laser last night ...
04:21 < mnemoc> no benefit for our sponsor?
04:22 < mnemoc> btw, what are you doing awake at this hour?
04:22 < rxr> grabbing stuff to leave to the train ...
04:46 < sparc-kly> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/mirror/t2/stable/2.1.0/G3/t2-desktop/ :) 
04:52 < rxr> cu 
05:01 < mnemoc> sparc-kly: any feedback is welcome
05:05 < mnemoc> rxr: on noisy/mnemoc there are a just finished 2.1 minimal and bootdisk for x86_64 if you want to spend some time finding why it doesn't boot :)
05:06 < mnemoc> gn8 
05:06 < mnemoc> happy world expo :)
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10:11 < valentin> moin
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10:25 < CIA-1> sebastian * r13371 /trunk/package/x11/mrxvt/mrxvt.desc: * updated mrxvt (0.4.1 -> 0.4.2)
10:40 < valentin> anyone knows a good stupid simple thumbnail gallery generator that creates _static_ html pages from a list of pictures ??
10:40 < valentin> or do i need to hack my own script for that ?
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11:33 < CIA-1> sebastian * r13372 /trunk/package/graphic/djvulibre/gcc-4.0.patch: * fixed djvulibre for gcc-4.0
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11:42 < owl> moin
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13:21 < rxr> re
13:22 < rxr> valentin: aI have that
13:22 < rxr> valentin: on gsmp
13:22 < rxr> you can use that if you like ...
13:22 < rxr> damn ICE was nears two hours late ...
13:22 < rxr> arived damn late here at the fari
13:22 < rxr> hi al and cu then ,-)
13:27 < CIA-1> rene * r13373 /trunk/architecture/mips64/ (config.in gcc-options.in): * added mips64 optimization settings
13:27 < jsaw> re
13:28 < jsaw> rxr: can you have a look at bash.conf, "which" is not installed here, seems like variable bash_which does not survive
13:29 < jsaw> rxr: change that variable to start with "SDECFG_..." solves the problem
13:29 < rxr> hm
13:29 < rxr> I take a look
13:29 < rxr> jsaw: we see you tomorrow morning ?
13:31 < jsaw> I'll try to take a RB which should arrive 9.50 a the central station (so, as far as I've seen the map, I'll be there 10-15min later)
13:33 < jsaw> rxr: other question, is x11-ng/xserver needed? or can it be set to "O" by default?
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13:38 < madtux> hello
13:41 < owl> hi madtux 
13:42 < madtux> Greetings Sandra
13:50 < jsaw> hi madtux, owl
13:52 < owl> hi jsaw 
13:53 < madtux> greetings J :)
14:10 < rxr> jsaw: can be O
14:13 < jsaw> rxr: being at it, x11-ng/xserver tries to include  $base/package/*/*/x11-modular-conf.in, that file does not exist...
14:14 < CIA-1> jsaw * r13374 /trunk/package/x11-ng/xserver/xserver.desc: * disable x11-ng/xserver by default (has to be fixed anyway if neede)
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14:57 [ jsaw    ] [ mtr   ] [ SerWou] [ valentin ] 
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15:00 < madtux> wb rxr
15:01 < SerWou> good afternoon the chan
15:11 < madtux> greetings SerWou
15:22 < mnemoc> moin!
15:26 < madtux> hi mnemoc
15:28 < mnemoc> moin madtux 
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15:29 < Xenos> mnemoc, hello :)
15:29 < mnemoc> hi Xenos 
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16:02 < jsaw> <- gone, cu (tomorrow at lwe)
16:10 < CIA-1> amery * r13375 /branches/2.1/target/bootdisk/build_stage1.sh: * added xfs and jfs modules to bootdisk
16:15 < Xenos> :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
16:15 < Xenos> yeaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaa
16:16  * Xenos wants new minimal iso :)
16:18 < Xenos> mnemoc, maybe earlier than 2 weeks? :>
16:18 < mnemoc> 2.1.1? nah :)
16:18 < mnemoc> 2 weeks
16:18 < mnemoc> but you can build your own bootdisk and minimal from 2.1 branch :)
16:19 < mnemoc> svn co http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/branches/2.1 2.1-stable
16:22 < Xenos> oh eh..
16:22 < Xenos> i'll wait for 2.1.1..
16:23 < Xenos> yesterday i copied all of my conf-files..
16:23 < mnemoc> up to you
16:23 < Xenos> & bucked up some data
16:23 < mnemoc> i need to backup to reinstall my laptop too
16:24  * Xenos is ready for 2t2-installation..
16:24 < Xenos> :)
16:24 < Xenos> heh
16:24 < Xenos> our ways are similiar..
16:24 < mnemoc> azazel-0.2 for p4 :)
16:24 < Xenos> :)
16:24 < Xenos> nice
16:26 < Xenos> but!!
16:26 < Xenos> i really want 2.1.1 ! :D
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16:26 < mnemoc> 2.1.1 has specific goals which are not yet achieved
16:27 < Xenos> i see..
16:27 < Xenos> i just need this
16:27 < Xenos> :CIA-1 > amery * r13375 /branches/2.1/target/bootdisk/build_stage1.sh: * added xfs and jfs modules to bootdisk
16:27 < Xenos> :)
16:33 < mnemoc> svn co http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/branches/2.1 2.1-stable    nad build your own copy of bootdisk
16:33 < Xenos> "nad"?
16:34 < mnemoc> and*
16:34 < Xenos> dunno
16:36 < mnemoc> dunno what?
16:36 < Xenos> to build or not to build - that is the question..
16:36 < Xenos> hmm
16:36 < Xenos> :mnemoc > 2.1.1 has specific goals which are not yet achieved
16:36 < Xenos> which goals?
16:38 < mnemoc> x86-64 and ppc64 booting desktops ISO and flawless builds. updated gnome (last 2.10.x) and updated kde (3.4.x)
16:38 < Xenos> AND only this?!
16:38 < mnemoc> yes, only this. other small updates will also leak in
16:39 < mnemoc> i haven't get more bug reports for 2.1.0
16:39 < Xenos> hah, then tell me what i need to build my own MINIMAL bootdisk :)
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16:39 < Xenos> please ;)
16:39 < mnemoc> svn co http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/branches/2.1 2.1-stable
16:39 < mnemoc> wb misl 
16:39 < misl> hi all
16:39 < Xenos> hello
16:40 < misl> new people? :) Hi Xenos
16:40 < Xenos> yeah, new one :)
16:40 < misl> :)
16:40 < Xenos> hmm
16:40 < Xenos> svn package needed :)
16:41 < mnemoc> all you need comes on t2-minimal iso
16:42 < Xenos> i need svn to ":mnemoc > svn co http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/branches/2.1 2.1-stable" :)
16:42 < mnemoc> and other stuff do download the sources, and other stuff to start your build
16:43 < Xenos> downloading subversion..
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16:44 < mnemoc> wb sparc-kly[WORK] 
16:46 < Xenos> hmm
16:46 < Xenos> but the size.. :/
16:46 < Xenos> can you bzip it? :>
16:47 < Xenos> for me.. or.. no time?
16:47 < Xenos> or, maybe, someone else could..
16:49 < mnemoc> Xenos: you already download 2.1.0 iso, install it.
16:49 < SerWou> little question, i wanna grab sources of my current kernel (2.6.11.12) and recompile it to active Promise Raid stuff, how i can do that ?  since t2 kernel 2.6.11.12 is patch; download  a fresh 2.6.11.12 kernel from kernel.org don't look like a good idea i bet
16:49 < Xenos> mnemoc?
16:49 < Xenos> on vmware?
16:50 < mnemoc> SerWou: on config/$config/linux.cfg add your missing linux config, and re-build linux26
16:50 < Xenos> i need fixed minimal iso for the server with correct xfs setup..
16:50 < mnemoc> SerWou: just the missing lines
16:50 < SerWou> good idea mnemoc  ;)
16:51 < SerWou> thanks
16:52 < mnemoc> SerWou: yw
16:52 < SerWou> damned, i don't have config/$config/linux.cfg, i left it on my old computer....
16:52 < SerWou> not in  /etc/ROCK-CONFIG/ neither
16:52 < mnemoc> it doesn't exist by default
16:53 < mnemoc> only if you need something 'special'
16:53 < SerWou> a ./script/Emerge-Pkg will create it ?
16:53 < mnemoc> nope, enable it on Config
16:54 < mnemoc> and then echo CONFIG_FOO=y >> config/$config/linux.cfg
16:54 < SerWou> basically what i have there must be compiled : http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/ATA-RAID-HOWTO/nativeraid.html
16:56 < SerWou> echo CONFIG_FOO=y >> config/$config/linux.cfg     i don't see how to make the link between CONFIG_FOO=y   and the table 3. on that webpage
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16:57 < Xenos> mnemoc, what's next after svn'ing?:)
16:58 < mnemoc> Xenos: read the quick-start document :)
16:58 < Xenos> :)
16:58 < Xenos> nice answer, ok
16:58 < mnemoc> SerWou: each [*] Use PCI DMA by default when available   line reference a  CONFIG_FOO
16:58 < mnemoc> Xenos: :)
16:58 < Xenos> :)
16:59 < mnemoc> SerWou: you could gret boot/kconfig_* to see what is missing
16:59 < mnemoc> grep*
16:59 < Xenos> mmmmmm, nice
16:59 < Xenos> then burn & install?
16:59  * _Ragnar_ did a Build-Pkg linux26, waited until it untarred, cd'ed into it, make menuconfig, cp .config config/myconf/linux.cfg
17:00 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: remember linux.cfg is _additive_ not replacing.
17:00 < Xenos> heh, i see, " Check for files named my_own_t2_cd[disc number].iso in the current directory, burn each one on a CD-R and boot the CD with the number 1."
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17:01 < Xenos> A full build of the desktop target takes about three days on a 3 Ghz Athlon 64.
17:01 < Xenos> =)))))))))))))))
17:01 < Xenos> nice..
17:01 < _Ragnar_> mnemoc: I wanted control of most of the options set
17:01 < karasz> moin all
17:01 < Xenos> karasz, hi
17:01 < SerWou> hello karasz 
17:01 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: good :)
17:01 < _Ragnar_> with a lot of CONFIG_XXX=n for things I really won't ever need ;)
17:02 < Xenos> mnemoc, i hope mininmal will take less time..
17:02 < SerWou> gonna try something, download a fresh kernel, and identify and make the link of what CONFIG_XXX i have to active
17:02 < mnemoc> Xenos: some hours
17:02 < Xenos> great
17:02 < Xenos> it will be tonight
17:02 < mnemoc> Xenos: but you need bootdisk and generic/minimal
17:03 < Xenos> ?
17:03 < Xenos> all from svn?
17:03 < _Ragnar_> it's better to use the kernel that's gonna be built in the build system, since patches like vserver will add new options you don't have in the default kernel
17:03 < mnemoc> yes, two configs from the same tree
17:03 < Xenos> yeah, i see it in the quicksttart guide..
17:03 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: vserver package enable it's options
17:04 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: "if you enabled the package, you want it working" is the policy :)
17:04 < _Ragnar_> in general, yes ;)
17:04 < mnemoc> that's was a big fight i had with clifford, he liked to bloat Config.
17:05 < _Ragnar_> ?
17:05 < _Ragnar_> inhowfar?
17:06 < mnemoc> hey, don't abuse... my english is poor
17:06 < _Ragnar_> ooh I see have lots of options in the Config script
17:06 < Xenos> hmm
17:06 < Xenos> removing .svn-dirs
17:07 < _Ragnar_> why would you do that? o_o
17:07 < Xenos> ? :)
17:07 < _Ragnar_> the removing .svn dirs?
17:08 < _Ragnar_> lack of space?
17:08 < _Ragnar_> uh brb, need breakfast
17:08 < Xenos> they are unnecessary
17:08 < Xenos> aren't they?:)
17:09 < _Ragnar_> well not if you want to do a svn up later :)
17:10 < Xenos> no..
17:11 < mnemoc> Xenos: they are absolutly necesary because without them you wont be able to get the new fixes
17:11 < Xenos> ?
17:11 < Xenos> i want to build & burn my own iso
17:11 < mnemoc> Xenos: if you want an static snapshot use svn export instead of svn co
17:13 < Xenos> hm, ok, thanks
17:16 < Xenos>  Keep in mind that this may consume some discspace (the desktop target takes about 2GB for example).
17:17 < Xenos> what's about of minimal?
17:17 < mnemoc> no idea
17:18 < mnemoc> i have a 40G partition to build on my build servers
17:18 < Xenos> configuring..
17:19 < Xenos> hm
17:19 < Xenos> what's about optimisations?
17:19 < Xenos> p4 really neded?
17:19 < Xenos> *ee
17:20 < mnemoc> not really much difference between running a p4 optimized machine and a ppro one
17:21 < Xenos> ppro <-> no special optimisations
17:21 < Xenos> more difference? :)
17:24 < Xenos> & then i must coose "minimalistic package selection" and "generic system" in conf-menu for the minimal iso, yeah?
17:24 < Xenos> *choose
17:24 < mnemoc> no special optimisations is like 386
17:24 < mnemoc> which _does_ difference
17:25 < mnemoc> generic/minimal is t2-minimal
17:25 < mnemoc> bootdisk is bootdisk
17:25 < Xenos> ?
17:25 < mnemoc> iso = bootdisk + something else
17:25 < Xenos> but where is "bootdisk" selection?
17:25 < mnemoc> instead of 'generic system'
17:26 < Xenos> "Boot-,Install- and Rescue-System"?
17:26 < mnemoc> yes
17:27 < Xenos> hmm
17:27 < Xenos> but
17:27 < Xenos> what i need to choose to build minimal iso?
17:27 < Xenos> only "Boot-,Install- and Rescue-System"?
17:27 < Xenos> not 'generic system'?
17:27 < mnemoc> you need to do _two_ builds
17:27 < Xenos> ah..
17:28 < mnemoc> i.e. _two_ different configs
17:28 < mnemoc> one for bootdisk, and one for generic/minimal
17:28 < Xenos> yep, i see, thanks
17:28 < Xenos> :)
17:28 < Xenos> hmm
17:28 < Xenos> the first will be boot..
17:28 < mnemoc> Cofnig -cfg boot
17:28 < mnemoc> Config -cfg minimal
17:29 < mnemoc> Downlaod -cfg boot -required
17:29 < mnemoc> Downlaod -cfg minimal -required
17:29 < mnemoc> Build-Target -cfg boot
17:29 < mnemoc> Build-Target -cfg minimal
17:29 < mnemoc> Create-ISO t2-minimal-Xenos boot minimal
17:32 < Xenos> hm
17:32 < Xenos> :mnemoc > Cofnig -cfg boot <- should i set here "Boot-,Install- and Rescue-System"?
17:32 < Xenos> and Config -cfg minimal 'generic system'?
17:32 < Xenos> yeah?
17:44 < mnemoc> -cfg name_of_your_config
17:44 < Xenos> :)
17:44 < mnemoc> a config named name_of_your_config can point to any target
17:44 < Xenos> but
17:44 < Xenos> i need 2
17:44 < Xenos> boot
17:44 < mnemoc> bootdisk and generic are targets, from targets/*
17:44 < Xenos> & generic/minimal
17:44 < Xenos> yep?
17:44 < Xenos> :))
17:45 < Xenos> yeah, thanks
17:45 < mnemoc> generic has an special config called 'template'
17:45 < mnemoc> and there is a template called 'minimal'
17:45 < Xenos> hmm
17:46 < mnemoc> t2-minimal iso is an iso produced by merging a build of 'bootdisk' and a build of 'generic' with 'minimal' template
17:46 < Xenos> ah
17:46 < Xenos> yeah
17:46 < Xenos> i chose it
17:47 < mnemoc> it's more clear now?
17:47 < Xenos> yep :)
17:48 < mnemoc> remeber T2 is a tool and a framework to build distributions, not a 'meta-fubar^Wdistribution'
17:48 < Xenos> :)
17:48 < Xenos> but
17:48 < Xenos> i think
17:49 < Xenos> I LOVE IT :>
17:53 < misl> I am heading home, cu all later.
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18:03 < Xenos> nice
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18:05 < mnemoc> Xenos: how is it going?
18:05 < Xenos> downloading glibc by "Download -cfg boot -required"
18:08 < valentin> hi
18:08 < mnemoc> hi valentin.... @lwe?
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18:11 < valentin> mnemoc: i will be there tomorow and thue
18:12 < mnemoc> valentin: when does it end?
18:14 < valentin> thu
18:26 < valentin> lunch
18:26 < valentin> bbl
18:28 < Xenos> valentin, bye
18:28 < Xenos> if "bbl" = "bye bye all"
18:28 < Xenos> :>
18:29 < mnemoc> be back later
18:32 < Xenos> :)
18:35 < Xenos> heh
18:35 < Xenos> downloading gcc..
18:45 < _Ragnar_> hi
18:46  * _Ragnar_ is back
18:46 < mnemoc> wb _Ragnar_ 
18:46  * Xenos welcomes _Ragnar_
18:48 < _Ragnar_> thanks :)
19:01 < mnemoc> jsaw: to me, bash did honor bash_which=1.
19:02 < valentin> re
19:02 < mnemoc> wb valentin 
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19:36 < jsaw> 18:35 < Xenos> downloading gcc..
19:36 < jsaw> 18:45 < _Ragnar_> hi
19:36 < jsaw> 18:46  * _Ragnar_ is back
19:36 < jsaw> 18:46 < mnemoc> wb _Ragnar_ 
19:36 < jsaw> up
19:36 < jsaw> sorry...
19:36 < jsaw> re 
19:36 < mnemoc> wb jsaw :)
19:36 < mnemoc> @lwe?
19:36 < valentin> hi jsaw 
19:36 < jsaw> not yet, tomorrow
19:37 < jsaw> hi valentin 
19:37 < _Ragnar_> :)
19:37 < mnemoc> poor rene is alone?
19:37 < valentin> cool, then we'll meet there :)
19:37 < jsaw> hi _Ragnar_ 
19:37 < valentin> poor rxr has susanne on his side
19:37 < jsaw> valentin: yes
19:37 < _Ragnar_> hi jsaw :)
19:37 < jsaw> valentin: the way you put it...sounds...eh...strange
19:38 < mnemoc> *G*
19:38 < valentin> that is your interpretation
19:38 < Xenos> hm
19:38 < valentin> i don't think he is poor with susanne
19:38 < jsaw> mnemoc: `which' is built for you? Hmm, strange.
19:38 < Xenos> so much pakages downloaded for the bootdisk.. :/
19:39 < mnemoc> jsaw: xtrace?
19:39 < mnemoc> Xenos: most are reused on minimal and desktop
19:39 < jsaw> mnemoc: nothing to see .oO
19:40 < mnemoc> jsaw: embutils disable bash's which, do you have embutils enabled on your build?
19:40 < jsaw> "Sponge Bob" over, gotta bring Marlene to bed, cu later
19:40 < jsaw> mnemoc: I'll check.
19:40 < mnemoc> cu jsaw 
19:42 < Xenos> gm
19:42 < Xenos> downloading packs for minimal..
19:42 < mnemoc> Xenos: you can start bootdisk's build in the mean time
19:44 < Xenos> i'll start it tonight
19:45 < Xenos> heh
19:45 < Xenos> gettext, zlib..
19:45 < Xenos> nice
19:45 < Xenos> zsh 4.2.5 - i love it
19:45 < Xenos> :)
20:07 < karasz> re
20:10 < Xenos> hi, karasz
20:10 < Xenos> mmm
20:10 < Xenos> mnemoc, here? :>
20:10 < Xenos> all downloaded
20:11 < Xenos> it's time to BUILD ;)
20:11 < Xenos> my own ISO, heh..
20:20 < mnemoc> Xenos: the ISO after the both builds
20:20 < mnemoc> # ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg desktop
20:20 < mnemoc> Error logs from desktop-2.1-stable-x86-64-desktop:
20:20 < mnemoc> [1] base/linux24
20:20 < mnemoc> 676 builds total, 127 completed fine, 1 with errors.
20:20 < mnemoc> hi karasz 
20:20 < karasz> hello
20:21 < karasz> i need an advice regarding a box on which i will build T2
20:21 < mnemoc> insteresting thing linux24 failed on stage 1 but passed on stage 5
20:21 < mnemoc> karasz: the better you can get
20:22 < karasz> for 64 bit builds i need an 64 bit architecture?
20:22 < Xenos> mnemoc ?
20:22 < karasz> i need to do standard 32 bit builds and ppc64
20:22 < mnemoc> karasz: for full builds, yes. cross compile only cover stages 0 and 1
20:23 < karasz> but it seems an ppc64 is out of my reach :(
20:23 < Xenos> any errors with linux24 ?
20:23 < mnemoc> karasz: ppc32 and ppc64?
20:23 < karasz> waaay too expensive for me
20:23 < karasz> no
20:23 < karasz> standard 32 and ppc64
20:23 < mnemoc> Xenos: on that static amd64, yes. linux24 fail to build on stage 1
20:23 < karasz> standard 32 means i386 or you name it
20:23 < mnemoc> karasz: what is standard? 
20:23 < mnemoc> :)
20:23 < Xenos> ah... amd64..
20:24 < Xenos> i think
20:24 < mnemoc> Xenos: considering it pass on stage 5 (which is inside chroot) i think it's a problem on host
20:24 < Xenos> maybe
20:25 < mnemoc> karasz: rxr has ppc64 working, so he can provide a nativly built desktop.
20:25 < mnemoc> karasz: but cross compiling it is not a good idea
20:25 < karasz> mnemoc: for ppc64 can i use x86-64?
20:25 < mnemoc> karasz: no
20:26 < karasz> i know that rxr has that ;)
20:26 < karasz> it seems that still it is an boot issue for openpower servers
20:27 < karasz> but still that ppc64 will vanish in some time :(
20:27 < karasz> i can't get hold of it
20:29 < karasz> so except of ppc64 nothing will do it for compiling ppc64....
20:29 < mnemoc> karasz: you can cross compile a 'base' to be injected on the disc, to continue the build natively
20:30 < karasz> that sound good
20:30 < karasz> and i supose that it can be compiled on anything, right?
20:30 < mnemoc> karasz: right
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20:31 < karasz> ok, back to work than
20:31 < karasz> i ment me ofcourse.. :)
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20:34 < mnemoc> :)
20:34 < Xenos> :)
20:34 < Xenos> building bootdisk..
20:34 < mnemoc> 676 builds total, 154 completed fine, 1 with errors.
20:35 < Xenos> amd64?
20:35 < mnemoc> desktop/x86_64
20:35 < Xenos> yep..
20:35 < mnemoc> minimal and bootdisk build flawless, but ISO doesn't boot
20:37 < jsaw> re
20:38 < Xenos> jsaw, hi
20:38 < jsaw> aren't directories removed from shared file detection???
20:38 < jsaw> hi Xenos 
20:38 < mnemoc> jsaw: it's just a crosses flist greping
20:38 < mnemoc> crossed*
20:39 < jsaw> usr/X11R7/lib/X11/app-defaults: gv xdu xfig xorg-server
20:39 < jsaw> ...
20:39 < jsaw> we didn't have this before, did we?
20:39 < mnemoc> xorg7 i guess
20:40 < mnemoc> gv xdu xfig have to be fixed to not touch usr/X11R7/lib/X11/app-defaults
20:41 < jsaw> I fear there will be a lot more packages like that...
20:42 < jsaw> I think, flist should ignore existing dirs
20:42 < jsaw> 2100 builds total, 780 completed fine, 6 with errors
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20:43 < MisterN> hi
20:43 < jsaw> hi MisterN 
20:43 < mnemoc> jsaw: rm -rf foo; mkdir foo <--- directory 'touched'
20:44 < jsaw> the directory is full.
20:44 < jsaw> so, no rm -rf on it.
20:44 < Xenos> mnemoc, are there any scripts
20:44 < Xenos> to get the sources from the mirrors, etc.?
20:45 < mnemoc> Xenos: scripts/Download ?
20:45 < Xenos> yep
20:45 < Xenos> but
20:45 < Xenos> when i'll install T2
20:45 < Xenos> i must dl packages while browsing offsites?
20:46 < mnemoc> i don't follow you
20:49 < Xenos> hm
20:49 < Xenos> when i'll install T2
20:49 < Xenos> & when i want to update my packages
20:49 < Xenos> what i must do?
20:50 < Xenos> dl them from offsites?
20:50 < Xenos> for example, gtk.org
20:50 < mnemoc> when you install, you install prebuilt packages which come from your CD
20:50 < Xenos> yep
20:50 < Xenos> but next
20:50 < mnemoc> when you update, you can grab a prebuilt package updated on your build server
20:51 < Xenos> hm
20:51 < mnemoc> or get a copy of t2 and 'Emerge-Pkg'
20:51 < Xenos> i see..
20:53 < karasz> rxr around?
20:53 < mnemoc> karasz: he is at lwe
20:53 < karasz> linux expo?
20:53 < mnemoc> yep
20:53 < karasz> kul
20:54 < karasz> how can i leave a memo for him?
20:54 < karasz> irc is kinda new for me...
20:54 < mnemoc> /msg rxr mem for you
20:54 < karasz> thanks
20:54 < mnemoc> karasz: but mail is a better chaoice
20:54 < mnemoc> choice
21:08 < Xenos> Create-ISO t2-minimal-vx boot minimal
21:08 < Xenos> hm
21:09 < mnemoc> once boot and minimal finish building successfully
21:09 < Xenos> currently building 2.6 kernel..
21:09 < Xenos> heh
21:09 < Xenos> with xfs :>
21:10 < mnemoc> kernel have always had xfs.... you could change it to build XFS built-in instead as module
21:11 < mnemoc> the problem was bootdisk was not copying it to initrd to save space
21:11 < Xenos> no.. it's ok
21:11 < Xenos> yep
21:11 < Xenos> i just told about xfs :>
21:16 < Xenos> mnemoc, what do u think about the kernels?
21:16 < Xenos> 2.6 vs. 2.4
21:16 < mnemoc> 2.4, stable but abandoned
21:17 < mnemoc> 2.6, if you freeze at a 2.6.x, it will be stable
21:17 < Xenos> is 2.6 good for the server?
21:17 < mnemoc> yes, but don't ever update it :p
21:18 < Xenos> update?!
21:18 < Xenos> update the kernel?!
21:18 < Xenos> heh
21:19 < mnemoc> yep 
21:19 < Xenos> hm
21:19 < mnemoc> anywayon, 2.1 i can't got further than 2.6.13
21:20 < mnemoc> due to devfs
21:20 < Xenos> yep
21:20 < Xenos> hm
21:20 < Xenos> =>
21:20 < Xenos> i'll use 2.6.11
21:20 < Xenos> in t2 2.1
21:20 < Xenos> :>
21:21 < Xenos> heh
21:21 < Xenos> really system development environment
21:21 < mnemoc> T2 2.2 use u/dev, so there is no restriction
21:21 < mnemoc> Xenos: ?
21:21 < Xenos> :)
21:22 < sepp> moin :)
21:22 < mnemoc> backup finished, time to install azazel 0.2 on my laptop
21:22 < mnemoc> bbl
21:22 < Xenos> cu, mnemoc
21:23 < mnemoc> cu sepp, Xenos 
21:23  * Xenos dunno what is azazel
21:23 < sepp> the devil
21:23 < sepp> :D
21:23 < Xenos> :>>>>>
21:23 < mnemoc> no no no
21:23 < sepp> no?
21:23 < mnemoc> that's a missconception
21:23 < sepp> lets ask wikipedia 
21:24 < mnemoc> azazel is a demon, created by the devil.... like adam
21:24 < mnemoc> to teach human the arts the other doesn't want them to learn
21:24 < mnemoc> like wepons, make up, seduction, etc...
21:24 < Xenos> hmm.. nice
21:25 < sepp> ok - child of devil ...
21:25 < karasz> :) mnemoc is right again :)
21:25 < mnemoc> my cute son :)
21:25  * mnemoc looking at wikipedia
21:25 < karasz> mnemoc: do you have horns?
21:25 < mnemoc> i hope not
21:25 < mnemoc> i should ask my wife
21:26 < karasz> not that way i meant :)
21:26 < karasz> literaly
21:26 < karasz> `mnemoc	my cute son :)`
21:26 < mnemoc> wow... big article
21:26 < Xenos> oh eh...
21:26 < Xenos> GTK 2.8.7 released
21:28 < CIA-1> sebastian * r13376 /trunk/package/graphic/yafray/ (. yafray.cache yafray.conf yafray.desc): * added yafray (0.0.8) - A free raytracer written in C++
21:29 < mnemoc> Commit.sh is nice
21:29 < sepp> yes that add [I] is nice
21:33 < mnemoc> but the code is discusting :p
21:34 < mnemoc> < arachnist> "if the solution is microsoft, i want my problem back"
21:35 < mnemoc> Error logs from desktop-2.1-stable-x86-64-desktop:
21:35 < mnemoc> [1] base/linux24
21:35 < mnemoc> 676 builds total, 220 completed fine, 1 with errors.
21:35  * mnemoc finally burning the CD
21:35 < Xenos> :>
21:35  * Xenos grants mnemoc
21:42 < jsaw> mnemoc: what channel was that?
21:42 < jsaw> (arachnist I mean)
21:53 < mnemoc> jsaw: i re-pasted from #rsbac
21:53 < jsaw> hehe
21:54 < mnemoc> but *he* is here on freenode
21:54  * mnemoc rebooting to reinstall
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22:51 < Xenos> hm
22:51 < Xenos> 'night all
22:54  * Xenos is away: dropped to bed..
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23:18 < CIA-1> sebastian * r13377 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtkglext/ (. gtkglext.cache gtkglext.desc): * added gtkglext (1.0.6) - An OpenGL extension to GTK+
23:18 < CIA-1> sebastian * r13378 /trunk/package/x11/glew/ (. glew.desc x11.patch): * added glew (1.3.3) - The OpenGL Extension Wrangler Library
23:28 < CIA-1> sebastian * r13379 /trunk/package/x11/glew/glew.cache: * added missing .cache file
23:51 < sepp> good night *
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