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00:37 < CIA-2> amery * r12707 /branches/2.1/package/network/sge/ (fix.patch sge.conf): * merged 12703 from trunk: decustmained and fixed sge - finally
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01:01 < Geekitus2> hi
01:01 < Geekitus2> any one awake ? for few quick questions ?
01:02 < mnemoc> just ask
01:03 < Geekitus2> :)
01:03 < Geekitus2> i wanto to create a new distro with few others students, do you think that t2 is a  good "start point" ?
01:04 < Geekitus2> your handbook is really big !!!!!!!
01:04 < Geekitus2> :)
01:04 < mnemoc> and outdated ;)
01:04 < Baldzius> :))
01:05 < Geekitus2> but do big :)
01:05 < Geekitus2> *s/do/so
01:05 < mnemoc> experimenting is better imo
01:07 < Geekitus2> yes, ..  do you really like your package managment ?
01:08 < mnemoc> mine?
01:08 < Geekitus2> all :p
01:08 < mnemoc> .gem will be deprecated on 2.2
01:08 < mnemoc> and i'm writting sam as remote-aware replacement
01:08 < mnemoc> i have to go
01:08 < mnemoc> back in 1h
01:08 < Geekitus2> bye
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01:17 < CIA-2> aldas * r12708 /trunk/package/develop/cln/gcc4.patch: * added gcc4.patch for cln
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01:45 < CIA-2> aldas * r12709 /trunk/package/develop/ginac/ (gcc4.patch ginac.desc): 
01:45 < CIA-2> * updated ginac (1.3.0 -> 1.3.2)
01:45 < CIA-2> * added gcc4.patch
01:46 < Baldzius> good night
01:55 < mnemoc> re
01:57 < Geekitus2> héhé , ypur packages are really very up2date  
01:57 < mnemoc> :)
01:58 < mnemoc> because we avoid patching as much as posible on generic, updating and customizing on targets is very easy
01:59 < Geekitus2> i don't see a system like a trigger : like when openssl is updated -> recompile some package also , 
01:59 < Geekitus2> so how do you do ?
02:00 < Geekitus2> like in the openssl package a var var like "trigger=wget" 
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02:15 < mnemoc> uhm
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06:10 < _Ragnar_> uuuhmmmm
06:10 < _Ragnar_> /usr/dietlibc/lib-i386/start.o: In function `_start':
06:10 < _Ragnar_> i386/start.S:(.text+0x0): multiple definition of `_start'
06:10 < _Ragnar_> /usr/dietlibc/lib-i386/start.o:i386/start.S:(.text+0x0): first defined here
06:10 < _Ragnar_> /usr/dietlibc/lib-i386/dyn_start.o: In function `_fini':
06:10 < _Ragnar_> dyn_start.c:(.fini+0x0): multiple definition of `_fini'
06:10 < _Ragnar_> /usr/dietlibc/lib-i386/dyn_start.o:dyn_start.c:(.fini+0x0): first defined here
06:10 < _Ragnar_> /usr/dietlibc/lib-i386/dyn_start.o: In function `_dyn_start':
06:10 < _Ragnar_> dyn_start.c:(.text+0x0): multiple definition of `_dyn_start'
06:10 < _Ragnar_> /usr/dietlibc/lib-i386/dyn_start.o:dyn_start.c:(.text+0x0): first defined here
06:10 < _Ragnar_> (sorry for the flood)
06:10 < _Ragnar_> this is 3-hotplug++
06:11 < _Ragnar_> how can that happen? O_O
08:11 < rxr> re
08:12 < rxr> _Ragnar_: I would need to take a look - what arch? x86-64?
08:13 < rxr> 2089 builds total, 1896 completed fine, 193 with errors.
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08:45 < CIA-2> rene * r12710 /trunk/package/network/at76c503a/at76c503a.conf: 
08:45 < CIA-2> * fixed at76c503a firmware installation by not trying to patch the
08:45 < CIA-2>  firmware with kernel driver patches ,-)
08:45 < rxr> 2089 builds total, 1898 completed fine, 191 with errors.
09:20 < _Ragnar_> rxr: no, normal x86
09:21 < _Ragnar_> seems to be a problem with /usr/dietlibc/lib-i386/start.o and similar being added to the linker line twice
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09:42 -!- Topic for #t2:  T2 | 2.1.0-rc3 RELEASED! | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/
09:42 -!- Topic set by vilkacis [] [Sat Sep 17 20:47:59 2005]
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09:53 < rxr> re
09:54 < _Ragnar_> re
09:54 < _Ragnar_> did you get what I wrot?
09:54 < _Ragnar_> +e
10:00 < rxr> the last line was 09:21 < _Ragnar_> seems to be a problem with /usr/dietlibc/lib-i386/start.o and similar being added to the linker line twice
10:03 < _Ragnar_> ok yea
10:09 < owl> moin
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10:16 < rxr> moin owl 
10:17 < valentin> moin
10:22 < owl> hi rxr , valentin 
10:25 < rxr> hiva
10:25 < rxr> hi valentin  even
10:26 < rxr> valentin: the new access point is here now - so you have the 700 for you
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10:26 < geekitus> hi
10:33 < _Ragnar_> nini folks
10:38 < geekitus> why do you use t2 here ?
10:38 < rxr> geekitus: because we needed s.th. better than available before and wrote it from scratch to fit our needs ...
10:38 < rxr> s.th. like that ,-)
10:39 < geekitus> i read all your big hanbook last night, there are reaaly good things !
10:45 < rxr> nice to hear ;-)
10:45 < geekitus> how to begin to contribute ?  create new packages or solve bugs ?
10:45 < rxr> though we have already a lot of new stuff that is not yet in the handbook
10:46 < rxr> whatever you prefer - bugs are at: trac.t2-project.org and if you miss s.th. a new package is also always welcome
10:46 < rxr> geekitus: did you already install t2?
10:46 < geekitus> i downloading it (84%) 
10:48 < valentin> cu later, *breakfast*
10:48 < geekitus> i know how to create or maintain packages (i have already be package maintener for the hedinux and archlinux distribution) so i will begin to contribut by solving build package errors
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11:21 < geekitus> humm, i downloaded the precompiled packages iso , what the esay way to install t2 on my hd ?
11:25 < rxr> usually boot and install
11:26 < rxr> do you want to skip the CD-boot cycle ?
11:26 < geekitus> when i launch "install to hd" nothing is do 
11:26 < geekitus> i can only boot on the livecd t2 
11:28 < geekitus> what should do "install to hd" ?
11:28 < geekitus> i have downloaded : http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/mirror/t2/unstable/t2-live-2.2.0-alpha-r16.iso
11:35 < rxr> oh - that is not the latest live cd anyway
11:35 < rxr> the latest is in stable/ somewhere
11:35 < rxr> labelled -beta or so
11:35 < rxr> anyway the livecd releases so far do not come with an installer :-(
11:36 < rxr> howwever you could install it manually using rsync or so to copy the files to the disk 
11:36 < geekitus> so they don't have any precompiled iso that i can install ?
11:37 < geekitus> if i can't use a precompiled version i will build from sources, it's not a provlem
11:37 < geekitus> *problem
11:38 < rxr> the non-live CDs are installable ,-)
11:39 < rxr> and the next live-cd to be released in a week or so will be as well
11:39 < geekitus> humm, can you give me a url of an installable iso ?
11:40 < Baldzius> good morning
11:43 < CIA-2> aldas * r12711 /trunk/package/filesystem/jfsutils/jfsutils.desc: * updated jfsutils (1.1.9 -> 1.1.10)
12:00 < rxr> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/ftp/t2/stable/2.1.0-rc3/
12:00 < rxr> geekitus: -^
12:02 < geekitus> "stable" -->i have don't  wait, i download the unstable svn trunk, and launched the build ..
12:02 < geekitus> rxr, but thanks
12:11 < rxr> wow - hacked xorg-server - the modular X.org to build on sparc ... ph
12:11 < rxr> puh even
12:13 < geekitus> xorg 6.9  ?
12:16 < rxr> 7.0
12:16 < rxr> T2 trunk:HEAD does already utlize modular X.org R7.0
12:16 < rxr> the monolythic package is still there but disabled (by default)
12:17 < rxr> T2 2.2-stable to be released in november is: gcc-4.0.x, glibc-3.4-CVS, X.org 7.0 and so on
12:19 < geekitus> :)
12:24 < geekitus> i don't where i can edit the package list which will be compiled/installed (i see that it download zsh...)
12:24 < geekitus> +find
12:24 < rxr> in the scripts/Config
12:24 < geekitus> i don't understand why it download zsh like i have selected minimalist install
12:24 < rxr> select expert and custom package selection
12:25 < geekitus> it ask for create new rules .. but i dob"t know how to do rules :)
12:25 < rxr> X pkg
12:25 < rxr> O pkg
12:25 < rxr> X selects O deselects
12:26 < geekitus> oh ok :) 
12:26 < rxr> and "- pkg" removes it from additional parsing so it can never be enabled by e.g. target rules 
12:26 < rxr> I know this selection needs improvements - and speedups ...
12:28 < geekitus> you can always add improvement, just need time to do :)
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12:45 < sepp> hi
12:48 < rxr> hi sepp 
12:48 < sepp> hi rxr
12:49 < sepp> do you have flists for the 23k xorg packages?
12:49 < rxr> yep I have flists - why ?
12:50 < sepp> which one has rman ?
12:50 < rxr> none
12:50 < rxr> develop*/rman has it
12:50 < sepp> ohh 
12:50 < sepp> thanks :)
12:50 < rxr> sepp: no problem ,-)
13:15 < CIA-2> sebastian * r12712 /trunk/package/audio/ladspa/mkdir.patch: * patched ladspa to use mkdir -p and not mkdirhier
13:16 < rxr> mkdirhier?
13:16 < sepp> solves some other ladspa plugins, librdf and ardour :)
13:17 < sepp> yes that was a xorg `mkdir -p` like thing missing in the new one
13:18 < rxr> oh
13:18 < rxr> hahahahaha
13:18 < rxr> sepp: or we package mkdirhier ,-)
13:19 < rxr> would make a lovely "yet another crappy package" near gccmakedep
13:19 < sepp> lol i did not even knew what it is for
13:21 < geekitus> yep, for glibc : 
13:21 < geekitus> from <stdin>:1:
13:21 < geekitus> nptl/sysdeps/x86_64/tls.h:61:3: error: #error "TLS support is required."
13:21 < rxr> crappy old-style Makefile dependency generation
13:21 < rxr> an ugly wrapper for gcc ...
13:21 < rxr> as unneeded as - well - whatever
13:21 < rxr> geekitus: oehm
13:21 < rxr> geekitus: what did you try to build?
13:22 < rxr> I built x86-64 just some days ago
13:22 < rxr> sepp: vnc also fails with mkdirhier
13:22 < rxr> sepp: could you patch that as well?
13:22 < geekitus> i glibc
13:23 < geekitus>  [*]      Enable ld --as-needed    
13:24 < sepp> ahh more mkdirhier :P
13:24 < rxr> sepp: the only one beside ladspa in my ref build *.err
13:24 < rxr> geekitus: what target?
13:25 < geekitus> target ? 
13:25 < geekitus> "glibc must not be compiled with -ffast-math" ^^
13:25 < rxr> geekitus: what target did you select in Config ?
13:25 < rxr> where did you enable fast-math? in the additional compiler options ?
13:25 < geekitus> yes
13:26 < geekitus> with some others
13:26 < geekitus>   x x          (x86-64)   AMD64 / x86-64                                               x x  
13:26 < geekitus>   x x          (k8)       Optimised for generic K8 
13:26 < rxr> what kind of distribution ? generic?
13:26 < geekitus> yes
13:26 < geekitus>   x x          (generic)  Generic System                                               x x  
13:26 < geekitus>   x x          (minimal)  Minimalistic package selection 
13:28 < CIA-2> rene * r12713 /trunk/package/base/glibc/glibc.conf: * remove -ffast-math in glibc.conf since glibc does not like beeing built with it
13:28 < rxr> geekitus: how was glibc configured? grep Running build/your-build-id/var/adm/log/1-glibc.err
13:29 < geekitus> http://pastebin.com/399691
13:30 < CIA-2> sebastian * r12714 /trunk/package/gnome2/clearlooks/: * removed clearlooks, its part of gtk-engines
13:30 < rxr> geekitus: can you paste the whole log there?
13:30 < rxr> the pasted parts look good
13:34 < geekitus> http://pastebin.com/399696
13:35 < geekitus> and the end : 
13:35 < geekitus> http://pastebin.com/399697
13:37 < rxr> sepp: thanks for resolving another bunch of build errors with the ladspa patch ,-)
13:37 < geekitus> i try without gcc flags : -fsmath
13:37 < geekitus> same error :/
13:38 < rxr> how good are your configure and programming skills ?
13:39 < geekitus> the glibc of my gentoo is compiled without tls, maybe the problem ?
13:40 < rxr> no - it should not depend on the host system
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13:41 < rxr> can you look for the config.staatus or config.log files in the src.glibc... directory and paste them in the bin?
13:42 < rxr> geekitus: did you disable "pseudo cross compilation" ?
13:44 < geekitus> [ ]        This is a cross-build between architectures 
13:44 < geekitus> [*]      Build and use a (pseudo-)cross compiler                                                                                   
13:45 < rxr> ok  that is good ,-)
13:45 < rxr> I think I rename the option for clarity ,-)
13:46 < geekitus> =*=      Enable c-compiler multilib support,   and i enable : Chroot-Jailing Options                                                                                                       
13:46 < rxr> .oO
13:47 < rxr> those chroot-jailing are not that tested in the last years ...
13:47 < sepp> Chroot-Jailing is pretty dead and will break a lot 
13:47 < rxr> maybe not enable them until you get some more experience with T2 ...
13:47 < geekitus> ok :)
13:47 < sepp> i made a test build some time ago and that was not ok
13:48 < sepp> e.g. qt will fail if you jail mysql ...
13:49 < geekitus> checking for x86-64 TLS support... no
13:49 < rxr> sepp: the jailing is a nice feature - maybe we should clean it up
13:49 < rxr> sepp: e.g. build everything as normal and copy the neded stuff into the /jail directory additionally or so ...
13:50 < rxr> well - anyway - not my primary business right now
13:50 < sepp> yes but i gave up because it was not that important for my laptop ...
13:50 < rxr> geekitus: can you pastebin the config.log / config.status of your src.glibc.... ?
13:52 < CIA-2> rene * r12715 /trunk/scripts/ (config.hlp config.in): 
13:52 < CIA-2> * hopefully made the CROSSCC option '(pseudo-)cross compiler' more
13:52 < CIA-2>  obvious
13:52 < geekitus> yes ;)
13:55 < geekitus> i don't have config.log / config.status in src.glibc.system.20051020.154757.26473.geekitus/glibc-20050919/
13:56 < rxr> look in objdir ,-)
13:58  * rxr back in a few minutes
14:01 < geekitus> humm, i don't have this : geekitus t2-trunk # find * |grep config.in |grep glibc
14:03 < geekitus> oh, i found !
14:05 < geekitus> config.status : http://pastebin.com/399710
14:05 < geekitus> '--with-tls'
14:10 < rxr> it is not what I need
14:10 < rxr> one moement - let me take a look on the glibc build on the SPARC
14:11 < rxr> oh - damn cleaned it already
14:11 < geekitus> running configure fragment for sysdeps/x86_64/elf
14:11 < geekitus> checking for x86-64 TLS support... no
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14:18 < rxr> geekitus: config.log ?
14:18 < geekitus> i try in 32bits (athlonXP) not in amd64
14:18 < geekitus> it's not a true amd64 that i have
14:19 < geekitus> seems to be good in 32bits
14:20 < geekitus> so it's a problem with the 64bits :/
14:20 < geekitus> humm
14:21 < geekitus> why in 64bits the ./configure don't find TLS :/
14:24 < rxr> geekitus: is your CPU 64 bit or not ?
14:24 < geekitus> yes, 
14:24 < rxr> it is what? Athlon 64 or what?
14:25 < rxr> well - paste me the config.log of the failed build ,-)
14:25 < geekitus> hemm, it's a semprom 3300 (it use the AMD64bits arch) , but the special 64 bits instructions is disables, so i use the flag -m 32 (to build in 32 bits mode) in gcc
14:26 < geekitus> i do this in gentoo and this work, but i shoud maybe don't do that ..
14:26 < geekitus> it's a k8 arch but in 32 bits mode ..
14:26 < rxr> ehrm
14:27 < rxr> if it is not 64 bit it does not make sense to build a 64bit multilib system wich defaults to 32bit ...
14:27 < rxr> that is just well, ..
14:29 < geekitus> ok
14:30 < sepp> yuck vnc has a own xfree86 version in it that fails with: /usr/X11/include/xf86drm.h:39:17: error: drm.h: No such file or directory
14:30 < sepp> xfree 4.3.0
14:31 < sepp> and i was wondering why it takes ages to build vnc 
14:31 < sepp> lol
14:31 < Baldzius> :)
14:32 < geekitus> arf, my error was too stupid like me sometimes :/
14:37 < Baldzius> ok , i'm going todo quite big directfb* related update
14:39 < Baldzius> should be 7 commits
14:39 < karasz> moin everyone
14:39 < karasz> question abt svn
14:39 < Baldzius> hi karasz
14:40 < karasz> i tried to download a working copy of trunk yesterday
14:40 < karasz> unfortunately using various windows clients :(
14:41 < karasz> is this posible?
14:41 < geekitus> karasz, the svn work there are two hours
14:42 < karasz> ?
14:42 < Baldzius> i can hardly help anything related to windows :)
14:42 < karasz> i do not understand...
14:42 < geekitus> i import the svn tree this morning but under linux
14:43 < karasz> i am trying to understand if the falioure is due to windoze or not
14:43 < geekitus> ^^ bad english 
14:43 < geekitus> it's windows 
14:43 < karasz> i never had any problems doing that under linux
14:43 < CIA-2> aldas * r12716 /trunk/package/contrib/fusionsound/fusionsound.desc: * updated fusionsound (0.9.22 -> 0.9.23)
14:44 < karasz> good than
14:44 < karasz> another job at which windoze fails briliantly
14:44 < karasz> where do you want to go today? cause it is sure that you won't get anywhere ...
14:45 < geekitus> the only good progs under windows is 'paint'  ^^
14:45 < karasz> nope
14:45 < karasz> notepad is better
14:45 < karasz> :)
14:45 < geekitus> :)
14:47  * karasz will try to rewrite windoze
14:47 < CIA-2> aldas * r12717 /trunk/package/contrib/dfb-lite/ (dfb-lite.conf dfb-lite.desc): * updated dfb-lite (2005-02-26 -> 0.6.1)
14:47  * karasz 's first step is format c:
14:48  * karasz oh wait... format c: fails too
14:49 < geekitus> lol
14:49 < CIA-2> aldas * r12718 /trunk/package/contrib/dfb-linux-fusion/dfb-linux-fusion.desc: * updated dfb-linux-fusion (2005-01-03 -> 1.1)
14:51 < CIA-2> aldas * r12719 /trunk/package/contrib/dfb-extra/dfb-extra.desc: * updated dfb-extra (0.9.22 -> 0.9.23)
14:52 < CIA-2> aldas * r12720 /trunk/package/contrib/dfb-examples/dfb-examples.desc: * updated dfb-examples (0.9.22 -> 0.9.23)
14:53 < CIA-2> aldas * r12721 /trunk/package/contrib/dfb++/dfb++.desc: * updated dfb++ (0.9.22 -> 0.9.23)
15:01 < CIA-2> aldas * r12722 /trunk/package/contrib/directfb/ (dfb_types.patch directfb.conf directfb.desc): 
15:01 < CIA-2> * updated directfb (0.9.22 -> 0.9.23)
15:01 < CIA-2> * adapted dfb_types.patch for new version - needs testing on
15:01 < CIA-2>  x86-64, compiles on 32 bit system
15:01 < CIA-2> * added LDFLAGS in .conf to search libsysfs.so in /lib -
15:01 < CIA-2>  libtool issue
15:16 < mtr> re
15:16 < rxr> maybe I should build with -O1 on the SPARC, -O2 optimization takes soooo long on the 270Mhz CPU ...
15:16 < rxr> hi mtr 
15:16 < mtr> Baldzius: thanks for updating DirectFB, you've been 1h ahead :)
15:16 < mtr> hi rxr 
15:17 < Baldzius> hi mtr :)
15:18 < geekitus> Apply patch /home/t2/svn/t2-trunk/package/archiver/gzip/gzip-1.3-rsync.patch ...
15:18 < geekitus> Get file deflate.c from Perforce with lock? [y] 
15:18 < geekitus> sh: p4: command not found
15:18 < geekitus> patch: **** Can't get file deflate.c from Perforce
15:19 < rxr> ?
15:20 < rxr> I never saw such a thing ...
15:20 < geekitus> me too ^^
15:20 < geekitus> really strange
15:23 < geekitus> i want to download a file with perforce ^^
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15:27 < rxr> it should not - anything special with your gentoo system?
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15:28 < geekitus> i don't think
15:29 < SerWou> good afternoon rxr and others ;)
15:29 < geekitus> and i don't have perforce on my gentoo box
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15:35 < mnemoc> moin
15:36 < SerWou> hello mnemoc ;)
15:38 < mnemoc> hi SerWou 
15:38 < Baldzius> hi mnemoc
15:40 < mnemoc> hi Baldzius 
15:40 < rxr> moin mnemoc 
15:42 < mnemoc> moin rxr 
15:47 < CIA-2> sebastian * r12723 /trunk/package/multimedia/cinelerra/gcc-4.0.patch: * patched cinelerra for gcc-4
15:51 < CIA-2> rene * r12724 /trunk/package/network/bmon/gcc-4.0.patch: * fixed bmon for gcc-4.0
15:52 < rxr> I wonder what happened to morfoh - I did not reach him on his cell for some time now .-(
15:52 < mnemoc> sepp: i was about to merge clearlooks to 2.1 :p
15:52 < mnemoc> rxr: oh
15:53 < sepp> mnemoc: afaics its the same thing as in gtk-engines but they dont tell it on clearlooks.sf.net
15:53 < geekitus> since how many time T2 exist ? 
15:54 < mnemoc> geekitus: T2 was forked from ROCKLinux on june 2004
15:54 < sepp> they fooled me :/
15:54 < geekitus> why do you fork ?
15:55 < mnemoc> geekitus: openness and stabilization need
15:55 < geekitus> you are only 7 dev ?
15:56 < geekitus> to maintain a lot of packages !
15:56 < mnemoc> you are welcome to help
15:56 < mnemoc> geekitus: http://svn.exactcode.de/big.png <--- you can compare commit activity on both projects here
15:56 < geekitus> i just to sucessfull  install it ^^
15:57 < geekitus> +need
15:57 < mnemoc> that's a good start :
15:57 < mnemoc> )
15:57 < geekitus> ^^
15:57 < rxr> geekitus: there are 14 or 15 people already with write access to the SVN tree ...
15:58 < geekitus> oh, i seem to remenber 7 in the doc
15:58 < mnemoc> .oO( geekitus sound like an asterix character )o
15:58 < mnemoc> geekitus: in the doc
15:58 < mnemoc> ?
15:58 < geekitus> but it was too late whan i read it (4h AM last night ^^)
15:58 < geekitus> handbook 
15:59 < mnemoc> handbook is mainly RL2.0 age
15:59 < CIA-2> rene * r12725 /trunk/package/xorg/xorg-server/ (configure.patch sparc.patch x86_64.patch): 
15:59 < CIA-2> * fixed xorg-server for sparc (by injecting missing files and fixing configure and a
15:59 < CIA-2>  Makefile.in - renamed configure.patch to x86-64.patch to reflect what it does
16:01 < rxr> == 12:56:14 =[5]=> Building xorg/xorg-server [6.99.99.900 2.2.0-alpha].
16:01 < rxr> == 10/20/05 15:34:58 =[5]=> Finished building package xorg-server.
16:01 < rxr> ^- sparc64
16:01 < mnemoc> rxr: :)
16:03 < geekitus> ^^
16:05 < rxr> mnemoc: every time I do a new sparc build the box feels slower
16:05 < rxr> mnemoc: guess gcc generation 4 is too much for the tiny old CPU ...
16:06 < mnemoc> rxr: good reason to improve crossbuildability :)
16:08 < rxr> or to buy a new sparc ...
16:08 < rxr> .o(or get Sun donate one)
16:13 < geekitus> it's a big problem for the build the : Cksum ERROR: download/mirror/s/services-20040211.txt.cksum-err (2310052126) ?   i downloaded this package three time, but i have always the same error, so i think that is the checksum in the package which is false
16:14 < geekitus> ?
16:14 < mnemoc> geekitus: what mirror are you using?
16:15 < mnemoc> geekitus: and what tree?
16:15 < rxr> autsch - the fedora core mysql.init is ugly - my oh my ...
16:15 < mnemoc> rxr: everything on fedora is implemented _ugly_
16:16 < rxr> mnemoc: when I look into my CVS checkout of it for inspiration I get that feeling as well
16:17 < geekitus> mnemoc, i don't know what's  miror
16:17 < geekitus> Downloading sysfiles:download/mirror/s/services-20040211.txt ...
16:17 < geekitus>  unrecognized!
16:17 < geekitus> INFO: download from mirror failed, trying original URL.
16:17 < geekitus> ######################################################################## 100,0%
16:17 < geekitus> Finished downloading 503572 bytes in 4,867 seconds (103458,000 bytes/sec). 
16:17 < geekitus> WARNING: Unkown file extension: download/mirror/s/services-20040211.txt
16:17 < geekitus> cksum-test (raw): download/mirror/s/services-20040211.txt
16:17 < geekitus> Cksum ERROR: download/mirror/s/services-20040211.txt.cksum-err (2310052126)
16:17 < rxr> cat download/Mirror
16:18 < geekitus> geekitus t2-2.1.0-rc3 # cat download/Mirror
16:18 < geekitus> 2.1.0-rc3 2.1.0-rc3
16:21 < mnemoc> uhm
16:21 < mnemoc> rm it and download sysfiles again
16:21 < mnemoc> pasting (on pastebin.com or 42.vg) the whole message
16:23 < rxr> oehm
16:24 < rxr> maybe my server side mirror multiplexer got broken
16:26 < geekitus> http://pastebin.com/399821
16:27 < mnemoc> geekitus: rm download/Mirror
16:28 < geekitus> INFO: Auto-detecting best mirror ...
16:28 < geekitus> INFO: Downloading mirror-list from exactcode.de.
16:28 < geekitus> curl: (52) Empty reply from server
16:28 < geekitus> ./scripts/Download: line 218: src/Download-Mirror-List: Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type
16:28 < mnemoc> Empty reply from server?!
16:28 < rxr> mnemoc: I track this already
16:28 < rxr> 16:23 < rxr> oehm
16:28 < rxr> 16:24 < rxr> maybe my server side mirror multiplexer got broken
16:28 < mnemoc> ok :)
16:29 < rxr> my server maintenance including big updates and https for svn.exactcode.de seems to have cuased this regression
16:29 < rxr> might take some minutes++ to dive thru the apache config ...
16:29  * rxr fresh coffee or tea ...
16:30 < geekitus> go to the shop , retry and maybe see you after 
16:31 < mnemoc> geekitus: if rxr haven't fixed when you return, and i can tell you what to inject on that file
16:31 < geekitus> ok thanks
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16:50 < rxr> /opt/apache/sbin/httpd: relocation error: /opt/apache/sbin/httpd: undefined symbol: apr_procattr_addrspace_set
16:50 < rxr> ack - that is my problem
16:51 < mtr> Xorg RC1 is ready, RC2 scheduled for November 9, http://www.golem.de/0510/41137.html
16:53 < rxr> mtr: already read it
16:53 < rxr> I sed'ed the xorg packages but a sources/UpdateList did not reviel an update
16:53 < rxr> AFAIHS
16:57 < mtr> rxr: you prepend releases to the path: s#/X11R7.0-RC0#/releases/X11R7.0-RC1# ?
16:58 < geekitus>   re
16:59 < rxr> mtr: oh - I might have missed that ..
16:59 < rxr> .ack I rerun the update cecker
16:59 < rxr> checker
17:00 < rxr> mtr: ,-) that produces more update
17:00 < rxr> mtr: thanks
17:00 < mtr> :-)
17:01 < rxr> SVN is down due to apache rebuild ...
17:06 < mnemoc> rxr: you may get a cert from cacert.org to promote that initiative
17:12 < geekitus> ok, when you will have solved the problem of INFO: Downloading mirror-list from exactcode.de. ; curl: (7) couldn't connect to host. Just say me, i will retry :)
17:15 < mnemoc> geekitus: echo "http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/mirror/t2-source/2.1/ 2.1.0-rc3" > download/Mirror
17:17 < rxr> mirror problem solved
17:17 < karasz> hi rxr
17:17 < karasz> are you `in`?
17:18 < geekitus> mnemoc, now i want to use the svn tree to install, it's the name mirror ?
17:19 < mnemoc> geekitus: svn co http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/branches/2.1 t2-stable
17:19 < geekitus> in the mirror ?
17:19 < mnemoc> geekitus: to get the svn tree of 2.1 stable branch
17:19 < geekitus> oh, ok
17:20 < rxr> geekitus: the mirror is a place mirroring the source tarballs ...
17:20 < rxr> just rm the file again and retry the Download
17:20 < rxr> I fixed the cgi stuff on my server
17:21 < rxr> # ./scripts/Download gtk+
17:21 < rxr> INFO: Auto-detecting best mirror ...
17:21 < rxr> INFO: Downloading mirror-list from exactcode.de.
17:21 < rxr> INFO: Testing <Germany - gsmp.tfh-berlin.de (HTTP)> ... ok 215629.000
17:21 < rxr> INFO: Testing <Germany - nexus.tfh-berlin.de (HTTP)> ... ok 170082.000
17:21 < rxr> INFO: Testing <Chile - www.geeks.cl (HTTP)> ... ok 16991.000
17:21 < rxr> INFO: Testing <Chile - t2.geeks.cl (HTTP)> ... ok 19677.000
17:21 < rxr> INFO: Using mirror <http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/mirror/t2-source/2.2>.
17:21 < geekitus> :)
17:21 < mnemoc> rxr: https is not working
17:23 < rxr> but now
17:23 < rxr> Emerge overwrote my twekaed apache init ...
17:23 < rxr> mnemoc: should we place apache -D defines in /etc/conf/apache or so? and source that on init - so I do not loose my init that often?
17:25 < mnemoc> Emerge shall backup/restore them
17:25 < CIA-2> sebastian * r12726 /trunk/package/x11/fluxbox/fluxbox.conf: * completed r12644 - removed `if pkginstalled blackbox; then` ... from .conf
17:25 < mnemoc> if not, it's a severe bug which not only affect apache
17:25 < geekitus> ok, now all work fine , thanks
17:26 < mnemoc> geekitus: good luck :)
17:27 < rxr> mnemoc: I did -noupdate to overwrite whatever apr* fluff might be lingering ,-)
17:27 < rxr> I know that is not what everyone should do ,-)
17:27 < rxr> and in fact it was old apr* lingering in placed noone wants them - so my situation was not a everyday situation anyway
17:28 < rxr> I just wondered if /etc/conf/{httpd,apache} might be handy
17:28 < geekitus> how do you to maintain a LOT of arch for a LOT of packages with few dev ? 
17:28 < geekitus> you never sleep ?
17:34 < mnemoc> rxr: i think we should not put non-core config at /etc/conf
17:34 < mnemoc> geekitus: ack
17:42 < CIA-2> amery * r12727 /trunk/package/base/sysfiles/sysfiles.desc: * updated sysfiles/services (20040211 -> 20041220)
17:46 < mnemoc> Baldzius: http://www.go-ooo.org/packages/OOO680/ <--- if you feel you want to update ooo to 2.0.0 (aka m3) :-)
17:48 < Baldzius> mnemoc: i'am trying to keep away from ooo :)
17:49 < Baldzius> it's a monster and i'am afraid of it :)
17:52 < sepp> :'( abiword 2.4 now needs gnome *** and there is no --disable-gnome switch
18:05 < rxr> geekitus: we archive this with the most powerful build system underneath and a lot of automatics ...
18:07 < mnemoc> _lot_ :p
18:08 < geekitus> when would like to test this now, but it compile .. compile .. compile ... too slow for me ^^ 
18:08 < geekitus> -when
18:10 < mnemoc> geekitus: start building generic/minimal to get 'trained'
18:10 < geekitus> i do that 
18:10 < mnemoc> bbl
18:10 < geekitus> i don't like kde gnome ..  i use fluxbox with some minimalist apps like ROX 
18:11 < geekitus> i like to have a minimalist system 
18:17 < geekitus> where can i find a updated doc of all functions of your packages manager ? 
18:22 < sepp> you can check the handbook but its not 'updated'
18:23 < geekitus> i read it since last night , but it's too big ^^
18:25  * geekitus should a text_to_speech engine like festival to don't need to read but only listen :)
18:25 < geekitus> +use
18:25 < mnemoc> re
18:25 < mnemoc> geekitus: i use xfce
18:26 < mnemoc> geekitus: read the handbook, then the source, then ask, and finally update the documentation :)
18:26 < geekitus> it's the best way :)
18:27 < CIA-2> rene * r12728 /trunk/package/xorg/ (270 files in 270 dirs): (log message trimmed)
18:27 < CIA-2> * updated modular X.org (R7RC0 -> R7RC1), including:
18:27 < CIA-2> * updated xlsfonts (0.99.0 -> 0.99.1)
18:27 < CIA-2> * updated xfd (0.99.0 -> 0.99.1)
18:27 < CIA-2> * updated fslsfonts (0.99.0 -> 0.99.1)
18:27 < CIA-2> * updated xkill (0.99.0 -> 0.99.1)
18:27 < CIA-2> * updated lbxproxy (0.99.0 -> 0.99.1)
18:27 < mnemoc> geekitus: www3.t2-project.org is a 'bit' slow from there, but i hope it replace www.t2-project.org soon
18:28 < geekitus> "rene" is the "leader" , did he come here sometimes ?
18:28 < mnemoc> rene=rxr
18:28 < geekitus> oh :)
18:28 < mnemoc> we are IRC-centric, all development decitions are taken here
18:28 < geekitus> since i'am here i speak to the "big boss" ^^
18:28 < mnemoc> and just 'formal' proposals get mailed
18:28 < geekitus> ok
18:29 < rxr> mnemoc: oehm well - the mailing ist is equally important ,-)
18:29 < mnemoc> rxr: sure, but we don't use it too much :p
18:29 < mnemoc> geekitus: we don't have hierarchies
18:29 < rxr> mnemoc: I try to - I prefer async communication - it is just that the most important people are around here often enough
18:30 < rxr> I think some time soon with mroe people this will change and make the list more important ...
18:30 < mnemoc> i hope too
18:35 < mnemoc> rxr: your xorg update is melting my dsl line :/
18:41 < geekitus> you use hotplug for your livecd , no ?
18:41 < mnemoc> nope
18:41 < mnemoc> hotplug++
18:41 < geekitus> :)
18:41 < geekitus> do you know lshwd ?
18:42 < geekitus> really more more quick than hotplug and hotplug++
18:42 < rxr> I doubt it is quicker than hotplug++
18:43 < rxr> hotplug++ consumes CPU cycles in the ms range ...
18:43 < geekitus> lshwd detect all in 1s .. 
18:43 < _Ragnar_> does it work again?
18:43 < geekitus> next only the modprobe time
18:43 < rxr> real    0m0.028s
18:43 < rxr> user    0m0.016s
18:43 < rxr> sys     0m0.012s
18:43 < mnemoc> *G*
18:44 < geekitus> lshwd come from a archlinux dev, and it is used on the archie live cd .. you should try 
18:44 < rxr> so lshw (whatever it is) is about 50 times slower ;-)
18:44 < geekitus> humm
18:44 < rxr> the above is from my fully populated workstation with a lot of usb and PCI devices ...
18:44 < geekitus> i will compare  :)
18:44 < rxr> includign a DVB-T and analog tuner, an additional ethernet nic
18:44 < geekitus> o my desktop 
18:44 < rxr> a 10 channel sound card, ...
18:44 < rxr> SCSI and so on
18:45 < rxr> I doubt anything will be faster than hotplug++
18:45 < mnemoc> rockplug is slow, because it's written on bash, but hotplug++ is _very_ fast
18:45 < geekitus> or "hwd" -> detect harware , display description, show the module name and can generate a xorg.conf :)
18:45  * rxr booting a archivista live-cd for mysql replication hackery - /me not that repsonsive anymore then
18:46 < rxr> geekitus: hotplug++ without arguments also lists hardware and matched modules
18:46 < rxr> xorgt2conf or so generates a xorg.conf (until the X server will do that alone - sigh)
18:46 < rxr> xcfgt2 even
18:46 < geekitus> ok, so no need hwd or lshwd :)
18:48 < mnemoc> yep
18:48 < geekitus> anothers thing, do you know how frugalware (the distro) do  for find what packages need to be updated ?
18:48 < mnemoc> no
18:49 < geekitus> up2date="lynx -dump $url | grep 'Current Version' | cut -d ' ' -f 4"
18:49 < geekitus> a line in the package file with a web text navigator and a regexp :)
18:49 < mnemoc> we don't need that
18:49 < geekitus> how do you do ?
18:50  * geekitus in learn mode
18:50 < rxr> lynx dump?
18:50 < rxr> why not curl or wget ... ?
18:50 < mnemoc> bloat :p
18:51 < geekitus> i don't know why ^^
18:51  * sepp is curious what will happen with this xorg version, the last one immediately freezed my kernel 
18:51 < mnemoc> geekitus: we have an spider that notify to t2-updates list only depending on .desc files
18:51 < sepp> on via hardware ...
18:51  * geekitus go to subscribe to this list ..
18:53 < Baldzius> sepp: my friend had problems running X server on DFI motherboard with via chipset
18:53 < mnemoc> [12:29:01] <geekitus> how do you to maintain a LOT of arch for a LOT of packages with few dev ?
18:53 < mnemoc> [13:06:14] <rxr> geekitus: we archive this with the most powerful build system underneath and a lot of automatics ...
18:53 < Baldzius> he had slackware and BIOS update helped him
18:54 < sepp> the unichrome via driver works good, only what they mered from it into xorg made a lot of trouble 
18:55 < rxr> sepp: did you tell the xorg devels?
18:55 < rxr> opened a bugzilla issue ?
18:56 < sepp> hehe you got me :p
18:57 < geekitus> arf, the same error that the first time for gzip :
18:57 < geekitus> Apply patch /home/t2/svn/t2-trunk/package/archiver/gzip/gzip-1.3-rsync.patch ...
18:57 < geekitus> Get file deflate.c from Perforce with lock? [y] 
18:57 < geekitus> sh: p4: command not found
18:57 < geekitus> it's not a good day for me
18:58 < mnemoc> Perforce??
18:58 < sepp> p4 ?
18:58 < geekitus> this most be because i use Perforce and i have some export P4= in my .bashrc
18:58 < geekitus> yes P4 perforce is laike cvs svn 
18:58 < geekitus> *like
18:59 < mnemoc> well, unset it
18:59 < geekitus> it' s like i have do 
19:00 < geekitus>  i unset the four export P4= in my .bashrc
19:00 < geekitus> but it's the same error
19:01 < mnemoc> btw, you have to do your builds as root
19:01 < geekitus> i do already as root
19:02 < mnemoc> cleanup your env
19:02 < mnemoc> set | grep -i p4
19:02 < geekitus> geekitus t2-trunk # set | grep -i p4
19:02 < geekitus> P4CLIENT=Geekitus
19:02 < geekitus> P4EDITOR=vi
19:02 < geekitus> P4PASSWD=geekcactus
19:02 < geekitus> P4PORT=perforce.smee.org:1666
19:02 < geekitus> P4USER=sebastien_le_guillerm
19:02 < geekitus> arf
19:04 < geekitus> arf, i have unset it for my user but i forgot that i put also the P4= in the /etc/profile 
19:04 < geekitus> too stupid error
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19:24 < misl> hi folks
19:32 < mnemoc> wb misl 
19:32 < CIA-2> rene * r12729 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/etc/opt/apache/httpd.conf: * added ErrorDocument as demanded for the latest Archivista Box
19:32 < misl> hi mnemoc
19:32 < rxr> hi misl 
19:33 < misl> hi rxr
19:33 < misl> rxr: what is noisy currently doing? I do not recognize the output.
19:37 < rxr> output ?
19:39 < misl> Processing sparc64 ...
19:39 < misl> Creating configuration script.
19:39 < misl> T2 2.2.0-alpha configuration ...
19:39 < misl> New config written to config/regtest-sparc64/*.
19:39 < misl> Cleaning up. Configuration finished.
19:39 < misl> Running build ...
19:39 < rxr> misl: automated regresion testing ,-)
19:40 < misl> ahh
19:40 < rxr> cross building the toolchain and base system
19:40 < rxr> there are quite some issues to be solved with those seldom used architectures
19:40 < rxr> especially getitng  the linux kerel build for some - and glibc for other (m68k and cris)
19:48 < mnemoc> .oO( damn neck sorrow )o
19:49 < rxr> mnemoc: I have it with my back ... :-(
19:49 < rxr> Error logs from default-2.2.0-alpha-sparc64-v9vis-desktop:
19:49 < rxr> [5] base/glibc
19:49 < rxr> 972 builds total, 465 completed fine, 1 with errors.
19:50 < mnemoc> rxr: :)
19:51 < rxr> maybe we have fully bootable and such UltraSPARC ISOs for 2.2 ?
19:52 < mnemoc> and on 2.1.2
19:53 < rxr> did I mention I right now test database replication and such for archivista from live cd ...
19:53 < rxr> T2 is soo great ,-)
19:55 < mnemoc> does livecd at trunk work?
19:56 < rxr> mostly
19:56 < mnemoc> nice
19:56 < rxr> archivista is a installable livecd
19:56 < rxr> I started to build trunk livecd and wanted to release a latest tools + modular X livecd that is installable next wek
19:56 < rxr> +e
19:57 < mnemoc> btw, can you version those independently of t2 version used?
19:57 < mnemoc> to mark the separation
19:58 < rxr> archivista has no T2 version
19:58 < rxr> they are at 5.something
19:58 < rxr> from their windows rich client world ...
19:58 < mnemoc> :)
19:59 < _Ragnar_> xextproto and xproto fail to dl?
20:01 < rxr> do they have a checksum ?
20:03 < _Ragnar_> huh?
20:03 < _Ragnar_> no
20:14 < mnemoc> rxr: can you set stage 9 on your looping build please?
20:35 < CIA-2> amery * r12730 /branches/2.1/target/mnemosyne/: * removed mnemosyne target
20:44 < CIA-2> rene * r12731 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/ (8 files in 4 dirs): 
20:44 < CIA-2> * reworked archivista MySQL replication, do not longer setup the
20:44 < CIA-2>  server, just write lock the tables, mysql init overlday to loop
20:44 < CIA-2>  on start and stop, always do log-bin (for commercial reasons) and
20:44 < CIA-2>  adapted the menu - disabling master mode was removed - needs a
20:44 < CIA-2>  final test
20:48 < CIA-2> ragnar * r12732 /trunk/package/xorg/xproto/xproto.desc: * fixed download path for xproto
20:50 < CIA-2> ragnar * r12733 /trunk/package/xorg/xextproto/xextproto.desc: * fixed download path for xextproto
20:54 < CIA-2> rene * r12734 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/ (backup-restore.sh net-backup-restore.sh net-backup.sh): 
20:54 < CIA-2> * removed remaining sleep / loop for mysql termination now that archivista
20:54 < CIA-2>  has a mysql init script overlay that works
21:28 < rxr> ok - cu folks /me off to susan
21:30 < mnemoc> 0301922cu rxr 
21:32 < _Ragnar_> cu
21:32 < _Ragnar_> hotplug++ still failing *hint*
21:46 < mnemoc> what kind of 'still failing'?
21:50 < _Ragnar_> 211042 < _Ragnar_> /usr/dietlibc/lib-i386/start.o: In function `_start':
21:50 < _Ragnar_> 211042 < _Ragnar_> i386/start.S:(.text+0x0): multiple definition of `_start'
21:50 < _Ragnar_> and so on
21:51 < _Ragnar_> 09:21 < _Ragnar_> seems to be a problem with /usr/dietlibc/lib-i386/start.o and similar being added to the linker line twice
21:51 < mnemoc> cmd_wrapper.log agrees?
21:52 < _Ragnar_> - gcc -nostdlib -static -L/usr/dietlibc/lib-i386 /usr/dietlibc/lib-i386/start.o /usr/dietlibc/lib-i386/dyn_start.o -O2 -static -D__dietlibc__ -nostdlib -static -L/usr/dietlibc/lib-i386 
21:52 < _Ragnar_> /usr/dietlibc/lib-i386/start.o /usr/dietlibc/lib-i386/dyn_start.o -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -fno-use-cxa-atexit -Wall
21:52 < _Ragnar_> + gcc -O2 -static -D__dietlibc__ -nostdlib -static -L/usr/dietlibc/lib-i386 /usr/dietlibc/lib-i386/start.o /usr/dietlibc/lib-i386/dyn_start.o -static -D__dietlibc__ -nostdlib -static -L
21:52 < _Ragnar_> /usr/dietlibc/lib-i386 /usr/dietlibc/lib-i386/start.o /usr/dietlibc/lib-i386/dyn_start.o -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -fno-use-cxa-atexit -Wall
21:54 < geekitus>  checking whether autoconf works... no
21:54 < geekitus> configure: error: The installed version of autoconf does not work.
21:54 < geekitus> for automake
21:55 < CIA-2> aldas * r12735 /trunk/package/develop/itcl/itcl.desc: * updated itcl (3.2.1 -> 3.3)
22:04 < mnemoc> geekitus: what stage?
22:04 < mnemoc> err
22:04 < geekitus> the unstable svn tree
22:04 < mnemoc> you need to install development tool on your host machine
22:04 < geekitus> it dont find the t2 autoconf , i think
22:05 < mnemoc> binutils, flex, bison, m4, gcc, automake, autoconf...
22:05 < sepp> /usr/dietlibc/lib-i386/dyn_stop.o:dyn_stop.c:(.init+0x0): first defined here
22:05 < sepp> ???
22:05 < mnemoc> geekitus: from your host distribution
22:05 < geekitus> mnemoc, i have this .. 
22:05 < geekitus> autoconf-2.59-r6  ; automake-1.9.6-r1
22:05 < mnemoc> pastebin the whole log
22:06 < sepp> i think i dont like dietlibc :(
22:07 < geekitus> http://pastebin.com/400230
22:09 < mnemoc> geekitus: please publish config.log file
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22:10 < geekitus> mnemoc, where cab i find it ?
22:10 < geekitus> s/cab/can
22:11 < geekitus> humm, i don't have config.log for it
22:12 < mnemoc> src.automake.system.20051021.000653.2650.geekitus/automake-1.9.6/config.log
22:13 < geekitus> i don't have src.automake
22:14 < _Ragnar_> sepp: same with me, someone borked diet
22:15 < geekitus> humm, i cancel the build before the end , now i have the file .;
22:15 < geekitus> http://pastebin.com/400239
22:16 < geekitus> #
22:16 < geekitus> configure:2208: eval autoconf --version
22:16 < geekitus> #
22:16 < geekitus> autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.59
22:16 < mnemoc> #
22:16 < mnemoc> NONE:0: /usr/bin/m4: `changeword' from frozen file not found in builtin table!
22:16 < mnemoc> #
22:16 < mnemoc> autom4te: /usr/bin/m4 failed with exit status: 1
22:16 < geekitus> arf, yes, i just see this
22:17 < mnemoc> there is a workaround commented on m4.conf iirc
22:17 < mnemoc> minute
22:17 < geekitus> yes , thanks
22:17 < sepp> # on some machines (gentoo,ubuntu) 1-m4 has to be built with --enable-changeword 
22:17 < sepp> ;)
22:18 < geekitus> héhé :)
22:18 < geekitus> how to recompile it ?
22:18 < mnemoc> geekitus: uncomment that line and reschedule m4
22:18 < geekitus> ok
22:19 < mnemoc> Create-ErrList -cfg system -newdelete
22:19 < mnemoc> or -remove m4
22:19 < mnemoc> and Build-Target again
22:19 < CIA-2> aldas * r12736 /trunk/package/scientific/graphviz/graphviz.desc: * updated graphviz (2.4 -> 2.6)
22:20 < CIA-2> aldas * r12737 /trunk/package/scientific/maxima/maxima.desc: * updated maxima (5.9.1 -> 5.9.2)
22:21 < geekitus> mnemoc, sepp thanks ! 
22:21 < mnemoc> Baldzius: iirc there is a problem on graphviz 2.6
22:21 < mnemoc> geekitus: yw
22:22 < Baldzius> mnemoc: i've compiled imagemagick & maxima, everything compiles 
22:22 < Baldzius> i can compile all left dep
22:22 < Baldzius> s
22:23 < mnemoc> ok
22:24 < Baldzius> hm thereis left 2: log4cpp & log4cxx
22:24 < Baldzius> i don't think they are important :)
22:24 < mnemoc> :)
22:25 < Baldzius> hm what kind of problem?
22:25 < sepp> aqsis needs log4cpp - but that really not important in the t2 world ...
22:25 < Baldzius> compile?
22:26 < Baldzius> well i compiled those 3 packages all day
22:26 < Baldzius> seems everything is ok
22:26 < mnemoc> Baldzius: runtime iirc.... check their ML :)
22:26 < Baldzius> ah :)
22:26 < Baldzius> that's bad
22:27 < Baldzius> i will take a look
22:27 < mnemoc> thanks
22:42 < Baldzius> mnemoc: anything suspicious related 2.6 version
22:42 < Baldzius> and log4cpp compiles too
22:43 < Baldzius> nothing :)
22:44 < Baldzius> jc 
22:46 < Baldzius> brb, need to test xfce4 patch
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22:47 < Baldzius> looks good
23:00 < CIA-2> aldas * r12738 /trunk/package/xfce4/libxfcegui4/toolbar-fix.patch: 
23:00 < CIA-2> * added toolbar-fix.patch for libxfcegui4 to fix labels exceed
23:00 < CIA-2>  on taskbar, gtk >=2.6.0 issue
23:01 < CIA-2> amery * r12739 /trunk/package/network/djbdns/ (config.in djbdns.conf djbdns.desc): * improved djbdns to support dnscache_dumpcache patch, even when sighup patch is already applied
23:04 < CIA-2> sebastian * r12740 /trunk/package/security/loop-aes/ (pkg_linux26_post.conf pkg_linux26_pre.conf): * changed loop-aes 3rd party kernel mod from 26_post.conf -> 26_pre.conf to build it if you select loop-aes
23:08 < sepp> now loop-aes is really usefull :)
23:08 < CIA-2> amery * r12741 /trunk/package/network/djbdns/ (config.in djbdns.conf djbdns.desc): * improved djbdns package to support fwdzone patch
23:09 < mnemoc> sepp: :)
23:12 < SerWou> if i need the lpr commands, lprng will answer to my needs, right ?
23:20 < geekitus> when i will understand more how work the packages system , i will try to do a "quickstart for creating and maintain packages"
23:21 < SerWou> geekitus, i made something too : http://serwou.free.fr/t2/
23:21 < SerWou> an online .desc generator ;)
23:22 < geekitus> héhé , :) 
23:22 < SerWou> check it out
23:22 < SerWou> tele2.fr  = bonjour geekitus même ;)
23:23 < geekitus> lu :)
23:23 < geekitus> "envoyé" envoit où ? (ça affiche juste ?)
23:23 < geekitus> dpn't speak french here please ^^
23:24 < SerWou> try it and see ;)
23:24 < geekitus> ok :)
23:25 < geekitus> great :) 
23:26 < SerWou> ;)
23:27 < SerWou> an application need lpr/lpstat to run, but only found lprng, looks not enough, what i can do ?
23:27 < geekitus> a great apps also will be : http://frugalware.org/packages.php
23:27 < geekitus> "search package and package wich contain a file" , on the website
23:28 < geekitus> reaaly usefull sometimes
23:28 < SerWou> yes
23:28 < SerWou>   you should check out  : ./misc/archive/Find.sh  ;)
23:30 < SerWou> a pkgsel generator, you check a package, it auto-check others packages to solve dependencies ;)  when you're done, you export it as the pkgsel file format ;)
23:30 < geekitus> whe you try a new distro you need to learn how use the packages tools, what's their name, howto build and maintain it .. :/ take a lot of time, and it seems to don't have a lot of doc, i hope that is not too hard :/ 
23:30 < SerWou> i don't know a lot too
23:31 < geekitus> i discovered T2 only last night at 4Am :)   you should do more "pub"  like on linux.com or linuxfr.org 
23:31 < SerWou> tell that to rxr ;)
23:31 < geekitus> this distro is exactly like i want , she seems to be really good
23:32 < Baldzius> she? :)
23:32 < geekitus> and packages are very uptodate
23:32 < geekitus> for me a distro is a femal ^^
23:32 < Baldzius> _l0l_
23:32 < SerWou> i'm a linux newbie since 18 months, but i just did 3 t2 for my needs, and it's awesome
23:32 < sepp> good night *
23:33 < geekitus> sepp, 'night
23:33 < Baldzius> gn8 sepp
23:33 < geekitus> me i use linux since 6 years, and i like to create tools or build and maintain new packages
23:34 < SerWou> i'm too bad to maintain something yet ;)
23:34 < SerWou> just, i need lpr/lpstats   i can't find a package with it :(
23:34 < geekitus> ^^
23:35 < geekitus> i don't know , i never see the packages of T2 , i only launch the build since 3 hours .;
23:35 < Baldzius> SerWou: what about lprng?
23:35 < geekitus> now it build the kernel for the second time
23:35 < SerWou> i compiled it, but i still have a printing problem
23:36 < SerWou> it will rebuilt it a couple of more time geekitus  ;)
23:36 < geekitus> ugh :/
23:36 < geekitus> but it need only two pass to build a system .. i don't understand ..
23:37 < geekitus> (on the LFS book)
23:37 < SerWou> there are "stages" on t2
23:37 < SerWou> stage 0 built the tree and basic tool, after it chroot and rebuilt, etc...
23:38 < geekitus> i only downloaded the svn tree and launche the build 
23:38 < SerWou> but i'm the wrong person to help you, i'm the more newbie here
23:38 < SerWou> maybe not since you are here now ;)
23:38 < geekitus> ^^
23:38 < SerWou> more = biggest*
23:40 < geekitus> i understand the "bad english" or the "franglais"  .. like i'am really bad in english ..
23:40 < SerWou> hehe
23:40 < SerWou> oké
23:40 < SerWou> okais
23:40 < SerWou> ;)
23:44 < geekitus> during the build i will go to see "antitrust" to see a good film about computers and programming story 
23:44 < SerWou> how long is that movie ? 15h ? ;)
23:45 < geekitus> i like this film :)
23:45 < geekitus> ^^
23:45 < SerWou> what kind of CPU are you running ?
23:45 < geekitus> a 3.6Ghz 32bits and 1Go of ram, and  i build a "minimlist"
23:45 < geekitus> system
23:46 < SerWou> i wonder how long it will take
23:46 < SerWou> 5h ? 10h ?
23:46 < geekitus> hope 5h ..
23:47 < SerWou> well
23:47 < SerWou> gtg now
23:47 < SerWou> see you later
23:47 < geekitus> bye :)
23:47 < geekitus> glad to see you :)
23:47 < geekitus> a french boy :)
23:49 < SerWou> see you soon
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