--- Log opened Wed Oct 19 00:00:28 2005 00:03 < CIA-2> pfister * r12676 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/kbd.sh: More languages codes 00:21 < CIA-2> pfister * r12677 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/kbd.sh: Finally, we have US,French,German,Italian,SwissGerman,SwissFrench,SwissItalian 00:30 < mnemoc> me hate to work lagged 00:32 < CIA-2> aldas * r12678 /trunk/package/graphic/vips/vips.desc: * updated vips (7.10.14 -> 7.10.15) 00:33 < CIA-2> aldas * r12679 /trunk/package/graphic/nip2/nip2.desc: * updated nip2 (7.10.10 -> 7.10.14) 00:35 < CIA-2> pfister * r12680 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/.fluxbox/menu: Added menu entries for ftp server 01:34 < CIA-2> aldas * r12681 /trunk/package/database/mysql/mysql.desc: * updated mysql (4.1.14 -> 4.1.15) 01:35 < Baldzius> good night :) 02:00 < _Ragnar_> rxr: why don't we have a GCC_WRAPPER_REPLACE like with the install wrapper? 02:19 < _Ragnar_> *lol* error: 'long long long' is too long for GCC 02:28 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: usually you add or remove to gcc, not rename like on install_wrapper 02:29 < _Ragnar_> s,/lib,/lib64, would be VERY good for that tho 02:30 < mnemoc> /lib6464 02:30 < _Ragnar_> blah 02:33 < _Ragnar_> s,/lib(?!64),/lib64, 02:47 < mnemoc> does apache .55 build on trunk? 02:48 < mnemoc> modules/generators/.libs/mod_cgi.a(mod_cgi.o)(.text+0x5cc): In function `run_cgi_child': 02:48 < mnemoc> mod_cgi.c: undefined reference to `apr_procattr_addrspace_set' 02:48 < mnemoc> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 02:49 < _Ragnar_> same here 02:50 < mnemoc> trunk or 2.1? 02:50 < _Ragnar_> trunk 02:50 < mnemoc> ok, i'll not update then :p 02:59 -!- karasz [n=chatzill@80.97.102.202] has quit [Excess Flood] 03:01 < CIA-2> amery * r12682 /trunk/package/games/freeciv/freeciv.desc: * updated freeciv (2.0.5 -> 2.0.6) 03:46 -!- _Lewelly1 [i=citrinin@cpe-24-221-168-7.ca.sprintbbd.net] has joined #t2 03:47 -!- _Lewelly1 is now known as lewellyn 04:50 -!- menomc [n=amery@200.75.27.120] has joined #t2 04:50 -!- mnemoc [n=amery@200.75.27.9] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 05:01 < CIA-2> amery * r12683 /branches/2.1/package/filesystem/unionfs/unionfs.desc: * updated unionfs (1.0.13 -> 1.0.14) 05:03 -!- menomc is now known as mnemoc 08:20 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@p54AFB2FD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 08:37 -!- mtr [n=Michael@p54AFADAD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:37 < rxr> re 08:45 < _Ragnar_> hi rene 08:46 < rxr> hey _Ragnar_ 08:58 < valentin> moin 09:06 < rxr> moin valentin 09:06 < rxr> valentin: my parents will stay at home ... 09:06 < rxr> valentin: the new access point will arrivve today 09:06 < rxr> valentin: Linksys WRT54G 09:27 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178143027.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 09:27 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-rc3 RELEASED! | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ 09:27 -!- Topic set by vilkacis [] [Sat Sep 17 20:47:59 2005] 09:27 [Users #t2] 09:27 [ _Lewellyn] [ Baldzius] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ nzg] [ rxr ] 09:27 [ _Ragnar_ ] [ CIA-2 ] [ lewellyn] [ mtr_ ] [ owl] [ valentin] 09:27 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal] 09:27 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 09:27 -!- [freenode-info] please register your nickname...don't forget to auto-identify! http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 09:27 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 6 secs 09:27 < rxr> re 09:33 < rxr> valentin: I might missed some stuff due reconnect ... 09:33 < rxr> 09:06 < rxr> valentin: my parents will stay at home ... 09:33 < rxr> 09:06 < rxr> valentin: the new access point will arrivve today 09:33 < rxr> 09:06 < rxr> valentin: Linksys WRT54G 10:13 < Baldzius> good morning 10:28 < CIA-2> aldas * r12684 /trunk/package/network/lftp/lftp.desc: * updated lftp (3.3.1 -> 3.3.2) 11:44 < CIA-2> rene * r12685 /trunk/architecture/sparc/archtest.sh: * compacted sparc architecture case 11:44 < CIA-2> rene * r12686 /trunk/package/x11/libgd/ (fontconfig.patch libgd.conf): 11:44 < CIA-2> * fixed libgd by removing a non-applying patch and inject 11:44 < CIA-2> the necessary include directories in the .conf file 11:44 < CIA-2> rene * r12687 /trunk/architecture/sparc64/parse-config: 11:44 < CIA-2> * improved sparc64 parse-config to allow fine grained arch_machine 11:44 < CIA-2> control for the 32bit multilib builds 11:44 < CIA-2> rene * r12688 /trunk/package/base/hotplug++/hotplug++.desc: * marked hotplug++ as DIETLIBC as needed 11:44 < CIA-2> rene * r12689 /trunk/package/base/gmp/sparc.patch: * cleaned the gmp/sparc.patch 11:44 < CIA-2> rene * r12690 /trunk/package/security/openssl/ (openssl.conf sparc.patch): 11:44 < CIA-2> * simplified openssl/sparc arch_machine case and made it aware of recently optimized 11:44 < CIA-2> settings within T2 11:44 -!- karasz [n=chatzill@80.97.102.202] has joined #t2 11:44 < rxr> moin Baldzius 11:44 < Baldzius> moin rxr :) 12:09 -!- karasz [n=chatzill@80.97.102.202] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68.5.1 [Firefox 1.4.1/undefined]"] 12:14 -!- karasz [n=icechat5@80.97.102.202] has joined #t2 13:38 -!- SerWou [n=serwou@laf31-2-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #t2 13:43 < karasz> moin all 13:43 < SerWou> good morning all 14:16 < jsaw> re 14:45 < rxr> hi jsaw ! 14:45 < jsaw> hi rxr 14:45 < jsaw> how are you doing? 14:49 < rxr> oh fine, thanks - and you? 14:51 < jsaw> since I changed to a more regular time table, I feel much better :) 14:51 < jsaw> which means: good, thanks 14:52 < rxr> ,-) 14:54 < rxr> jsaw: any chance to see you at the linux world expo ? 14:55 < jsaw> The family is also quite ok, only that autumn leaves its traces... (they are getting a cold etc.) 14:55 < jsaw> rxr: definitely, family is already informed that I'll leave to LWE for at least one day 15:08 < rxr> jsaw: ,-) 15:26 < rxr> I just hacked to get stage 0 builds ccached ,-) 15:26 < mnemoc> moin 15:27 < mnemoc> rxr: per arch? 15:27 < rxr> moin mnemoc 15:27 < mnemoc> moin rxr 15:27 < rxr> hm 15:27 < rxr> well - right now it would use the build/ccache-$arch 15:28 < rxr> that is indeed imperfect since building on a x86 host for powerpc would place them in build/ccache-$arch :-( 15:28 < rxr> build/ccache-powerpc that is I meant 15:28 < rxr> mnemoc: slept well? 15:29 < mnemoc> not really... my daughters are sick, and they don't let us sleep too much 15:30 < rxr> mnemoc: oh :-( What do they have ? 15:32 < mnemoc> both bronchitis and flu, and rafaella goes an alergic crisis again 15:32 < mnemoc> wow, 4 spam on one day :-) we are getting popular ;) 15:32 < rxr> mnemoc: that does not sound good 15:33 < rxr> mnemoc: ack - I do the mail server maintenance soon - maybe toda 15:33 < rxr> mnemoc: I wish I could help in some way 15:34 < mnemoc> if you can change the weather to eternal autumm it would be great :) 15:34 < rxr> mnemoc: ouhm 15:35 < rxr> == 15:22:48 =[0]=> Building base/gcc [4.0.2 2.2.0-alpha]. 15:35 < rxr> -> Compiler Cache Hits while pkg build: 2.31% (17 hits, 720 misses) 15:35 < rxr> == 10/19/05 15:33:27 =[0]=> Finished building package gcc. 15:35 < rxr> I try to do all the more difficult or nice-to-have task on the top of my T2 today until 2.2 ... 15:36 < rxr> mnemoc: are teddy tuxes good when your childs have alergics? 15:36 < mnemoc> no problem ;) 15:36 < rxr> mnemoc: or no house dust allery ? 15:37 < rxr> +r 15:37 < mnemoc> ack 15:37 < rxr> +g even 15:37 < rxr> mnemoc: ok 15:37 < rxr> I still think about getting a x86-64 board and placing my current athlon board in the package 15:37 < mnemoc> :D 15:38 < rxr> model name : AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2500+ 15:38 < rxr> cpu MHz : 1833.480 15:38 < mnemoc> sweet 15:38 < rxr> would that be of use? 15:38 < rxr> ok - guess that is a yes ... ,-) 15:38 < mnemoc> of course 15:39 < rxr> the only thing is that the on-board NIC got toasted in a thunderstorm when it was the exactcode.de server 15:39 < rxr> but it is running perfectly stable with a 3com NIC inserted ... 15:39 < rxr> I hope a toasted PHY of the NIC does not matter for you as it does not for me ? 15:40 < mnemoc> as far as it has slots to add another NIC, no problem :) 15:41 < rxr> ok 15:41 < rxr> so board, cpu, ram - a nic as well? 15:41 < rxr> no case and PSU I guess? 15:47 < mnemoc> ack :D 15:47 < rxr> good 15:48 * karasz slaps karasz with a cute little Gold Fish 15:51 < rxr> http://www.viaembedded.com/product/epia_dp_spec.jsp?motherboardId=321 15:51 < rxr> ^- cool ,-) 15:51 < mnemoc> rxr: comments about adding a text field to add all extra php options a $config may want? 15:52 < mnemoc> rxr: oh 15:53 < rxr> mnemoc: like --enable-xyz? 15:53 < rxr> mnemoc: for end users or targets ... 15:53 < mnemoc> rxr: --enable-gettext for example :\ 15:53 < rxr> mnemoc: in general - yes I recently learned php is really dumb and need a lot of --enable-xyzs ... 15:54 < rxr> mnemoc: is there a drawback enabling gettext by default if available? 15:54 < rxr> e.g. susan hat to rebuild php about 8 times until it was read for use with typo3 and xt:comerce 15:54 < rxr> I would like to prevent that in the future and fill the .conf with more pkginstalled xyz && var_append extraconfopt ' ' '--enble-xyz's ... 15:54 < mnemoc> i guess not, but enabling everything will produce a very fat PHP 15:54 < rxr> but in addition a additional tweak text field is ok 15:55 < rxr> but prevent people from rebuilding it 8 times .. 15:55 < mnemoc> then, i'll commit the pkginstalled i have already there :p 15:55 < rxr> e.g. it is not even able to detect libjpeg by default and such 15:55 < rxr> mnemoc: add the text field for temp. extra tweaking 15:55 < rxr> but I think we should enable the reasonable stuff when build in a system containing those deps ... 15:55 < mnemoc> php is monolitic, it builds as minimalistic as it can to avoid bloat 15:56 < mnemoc> ok 15:56 < rxr> mnemoc: those devels should be hit to load the stuff on the dly ... 15:56 < rxr> fly even 15:56 < mnemoc> php lost it's path long time ago 15:56 < rxr> I find it very unreasonable to let people rebuild their php 8 times to get a typical use-case running ... 15:57 < mnemoc> it was designed to be a monolitic and fast perl scripting for web 15:57 < mnemoc> now it's an slow and fat cow 15:58 < rxr> good that you say that - /me making a mental note never to dive deeper into it then ,-) 15:59 < mnemoc> avoid php if you can 16:01 < mnemoc> rxr: apache 2.0.55 builds for you on trunk? 16:01 < rxr> I think so 16:01 < rxr> do you want to update in 2.1 or does it fail for you on trunk ? 16:02 < CIA-2> amery * r12691 /trunk/package/develop/php/php.conf: * improved php package to enable gettext support if it's available 16:02 < mnemoc> fail on 2.1 16:02 < rxr> you need to update apr* on the wy 16:02 < rxr> way for it 16:02 < mnemoc> modules/generators/.libs/mod_cgi.a(mod_cgi.o)(.text+0x5cc): In function `run_cgi_child': 16:02 < mnemoc> mod_cgi.c: undefined reference to `apr_procattr_addrspace_set' 16:02 < mnemoc> looks so :) 16:02 < mnemoc> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 16:02 < rxr> is ti some apr unresolved dymbol? 16:02 < rxr> yep 16:03 < rxr> update apr* and it will work 16:03 < rxr> 0.9.6 -> 0.9.7 IIRC 16:03 < mnemoc> that goes against 2.1 policy :( 16:03 < mnemoc> damn apache 16:03 < mnemoc> damn apache 16:03 < mnemoc> damn apache 16:03 < rxr> well - only tiny changes it is not so bad 16:04 < rxr> I would vote for update it affects just a handful of apache related stuff ... 16:04 < rxr> subversion builds ... 16:04 < rxr> I think this is ok 16:04 < mnemoc> ok 16:12 < rxr> hm 16:13 < mnemoc> ? 16:13 < rxr> ccache thinkery 16:19 < rxr> hm - for an unkown reason my 0 cachery does not really work out right now :-( 16:55 < rxr> Error logs from default-2.2.0-alpha-sparc64-v9vis-desktop: 16:55 < rxr> [5] base/glibc [5] xorg/xorg-server 16:55 < rxr> 972 builds total, 306 completed fine, 2 with errors. 16:57 < mnemoc> at noisy? 16:58 < rxr> nope - my slow 270Mhz UltraSPARC is crawling thru the build 16:58 < rxr> the 360Mhz Uni models are all instable .. 16:59 < rxr> I really don't understand why the stage0 builds do not cache 16:59 < rxr> mostly cache misses strage thing 16:59 * rxr continuing to analyze that ... 17:00 < mnemoc> nah, native 17:00 < mnemoc> ah* 17:02 < SerWou> good afternoon mnemoc and rxr 17:03 < rxr> welcome back SerWou 17:03 < mnemoc> moin SerWou 17:03 < SerWou> i'm on my own t2 now ;) 17:04 < mnemoc> congratulations :) 17:05 < SerWou> thanks 17:06 < SerWou> small config with around 300 packets, i called it : netstation : oriented for simple desktop end user / basic student needs and Internet / p2p 17:09 < mnemoc> nice 17:09 < mnemoc> netstation.t2-powered.net :D 17:09 < SerWou> ;) 17:10 < SerWou> since i started linux 18 months ago, i'm pretty proud to have it done, up and working, certainly not perfect, but i will come a day ;) 17:13 < mnemoc> netstation-0.1 ;) 17:16 < SerWou> at least, it works very fine 17:16 < SerWou> i used a basic pkgsel done by a good linux t2 user 17:17 < mnemoc> now you have to tune usability and pre-configured stuff 17:17 < SerWou> only problem, my mplayer stay with a blue screen 17:17 < mnemoc> package selection is just the first step 17:18 < SerWou> ok 17:19 < mnemoc> SerWou: are you based on 2.1 or trunk? 17:20 < SerWou> my mplayer seems to be able to read .mpg but when i press play nothing, no error, no playing, if i click in the middle of the progress bar aera, it display me images of the movie, but can't play it normally 17:20 < SerWou> 2.1-stable 17:21 < mnemoc> uhm 17:21 < CIA-2> amery * r12692 /branches/2.1/package/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 17:21 < CIA-2> * merged 12599 from trunk: updated apache (2.0.54 -> 2.0.55) 17:21 < CIA-2> * merged 12606 from trunk: updated apr (0.9.6 -> 0.9.7) - needed by apache 17:21 < CIA-2> * merged 12606 from trunk: updated apr-util (0.9.6 -> 0.9.7) - needed by apache 17:49 < CIA-2> amery * r12693 /trunk/package/multimedia/mplayer/mplayer.desc: * updated mplayer (1.0pre7 -> 1.0pre7try2) 18:44 < CIA-2> aldas * r12694 /trunk/package/mail/sylpheed/sylpheed.desc: * updated sylpheed (2.0.2 -> 2.0.3) 19:00 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 19:00 < CIA-2> rene * r12695 /trunk/package/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 19:00 < CIA-2> * added a SYSCC wrapper to also allow transformation of system compiler runs 19:00 < CIA-2> in stage 0 - mostly intended for ccache utilization 19:00 < CIA-2> * adapted ccache/parse-config to utilize the new SYSCC wrapper 19:00 < CIA-2> * slightly cleaned and improfed efficency of ccache cleanup 19:00 < misl> hi folks 19:01 < rxr> hi misl 19:01 < rxr> misl: I just improved T2 to cache stage0 builds 19:02 < misl> rxr: :) great 19:02 < misl> How is noisy doing? 19:02 < rxr> I loaded your Opteron box the last days 19:02 < CIA-2> rene * r12696 /trunk/package/develop/ccache/libtool-options.patch: * improved our ccache tweaks to not hash more -M* flag cases 19:02 < rxr> I started a new regtest.sh build driver 19:03 < rxr> I lost my previous regression tester driver and postprocessing scripts due to too many server relocations 19:03 < misl> so now it start building on startup 19:03 < rxr> at some point those lingering scripts have not been backuped ... .-( 19:03 < rxr> misl: nope - I have not done that yet 19:03 < rxr> just manual start to get an overview 19:03 < rxr> about T2 cross build error list 19:03 < misl> make sure these scripts will not get lost this time ;) 19:04 < rxr> misl: how do you power the box down? immediate power loss or some software shutdown ? 19:04 < rxr> misl: ack 19:04 < misl> currently power loss 19:04 < rxr> we could test if acpi does suspend to RAM on your box and stop the fans spinning if so we might be able to suspend from linux and wakeup via RTC 19:04 < misl> maybe I should add a cron job to shut it down. 19:05 < rxr> though I fear such stuff is not implemented on server boards ... 19:05 < misl> RTC? 19:05 < rxr> root@noisy:/mnt/space/rene/t2-trunk# cat /sys/power/state 19:05 < rxr> standby mem disk 19:05 < rxr> misl: Real Time Clock 19:06 < misl> ahh 19:06 < rxr> misl: may I try suspending it? 19:06 < misl> sure 19:07 < misl> It's play time now. Merlyn wants some attention. 19:07 < misl> bbl 19:08 < rxr> hm - does nothing on attempt to suspend to ram :-( 19:26 < karasz> re hi 19:26 < karasz> hi rxr 19:32 < CIA-2> rene * r12697 /trunk/package/kde/k3b/k3b.desc: * updated k3b (0.12.4a -> 0.12.5) 19:34 < CIA-2> rene * r12698 /trunk/package/graphic/netpbm/netpbm.desc: * updated netpbm (10.29 -> 10.30) 19:37 < CIA-2> rene * r12699 /trunk/package/kde/k3b-i18n/k3b-i18n.desc: * updated k3b-i18n (0.12.4a -> 0.12.5) 19:48 < rxr> Baldzius: ocs might be easy to fix as well ,-) 19:49 < mnemoc> a? 19:56 < CIA-2> ragnar * r12700 /trunk/package/graphic/gle-graphics/gle-graphics.conf: * change lib to lib64 for x86-64 20:19 < Baldzius> rxr: ? :) 20:22 < CIA-2> rene * r12701 /trunk/package/graphic/gle-graphics/gle-graphics.conf: * fixed gle-graphics to use lib64 for all lib64 architectures and simplified it 20:22 < rxr> _Ragnar_: maybe you want to give that a try 20:23 < _Ragnar_> what? 20:23 < _Ragnar_> oh 20:28 < _Ragnar_> ok will do :) 20:30 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/stable/ :D 20:31 < _Ragnar_> I can't build stable and trunk at the same time, not enough disk space 20:31 < mnemoc> ocs has been there since ... february? :p 20:33 < _Ragnar_> ok? 20:34 < _Ragnar_> maybe because nobody uses it? :) 20:34 < mnemoc> :) 20:35 < CIA-2> aldas * r12702 /trunk/package/kde/k3b/uic-issue.patch: 20:35 < CIA-2> * removed uic-issue.patch from k3b package - we don't need it 20:35 < CIA-2> anymore 21:25 < rxr> == 10/19/05 21:23:46 =[9]=> Finished building package sge. 21:25 < rxr> built at least here now 21:25 < CIA-2> rene * r12703 /trunk/package/network/sge/ (fix.patch sge.conf): 21:25 < CIA-2> * decustmained sge, forced detection of linux as arch (did not detect 21:25 < CIA-2> anything with latest glibc - worst arch switch I ever saw), removed 21:25 < CIA-2> -Werror (due to warnings on buggy code with gcc-4.0) 21:33 < rxr> 2089 builds total, 1896 completed fine, 190 with errors. 21:33 < rxr> still some to go 21:33 < rxr> n8 all 21:45 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68a [Firefox 1.0.6/20050717]"] 21:50 < karasz> bye rxr 21:52 -!- SerWou [n=serwou@laf31-2-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:29 -!- karasz [n=icechat5@80.97.102.202] has left #t2 [] 22:45 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has joined #t2 23:06 < mnemoc> *yaaaaaaawn* 23:07 < owl> hi mnemoc ;) 23:07 < mnemoc> hi owl 23:15 < CIA-2> aldas * r12704 /trunk/package/themes/baghira/baghira.desc: * updated baghira (0.6e -> 0.7) 23:54 < CIA-2> aldas * r12705 /trunk/package/religion/bibletime/bibletime.desc: * updated bibletime (1.4.1 -> 1.5.2) 23:54 < CIA-2> amery * r12706 /branches/2.1/package/gnome2/ (5 files in 3 dirs): 23:54 < CIA-2> * merged 9364,10034,11074,11305,11895,11967,12175,12518 from trunk: updated gnumeric (1.5.0 -> 1.6.0) 23:54 < CIA-2> * merged 10035,11071,12174,12517 from trunk: added goffice (0.1.0) - needed by gnumeric 23:54 < CIA-2> * merged 10033,11070,12144,12516 from trunk: updated libgsf (1.11.1 -> 1.13.2) - needed by gnumeric --- Log closed Thu Oct 20 00:00:26 2005