T2 IRC Log: 2005-10-14

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--- Log opened Fri Oct 14 00:00:27 2005
00:02 < rxr> == 10/13/05 23:59:18 =[1]=> Finished building package glibc.
00:02 < rxr> ^- ok x86 builds as well
00:09 < CIA-2> aldas * r12567 /trunk/package/multimedia/linphone/html-build.patch: * added html-build.patch to fix linphone compile failure
00:09 < Baldzius> -1 from reference error list :)
00:12 < rxr> Baldzius: ,-)
00:17 < Baldzius> rxr: i can't find in rpm.err my patch which fixes compile failure
00:17 < Baldzius> that would be also -1
00:17 < rxr> Baldzius: I started a new ref. build with update glibc - we'll see ,-)
00:18 < Baldzius> ok just don't forget to update :)
00:18 < Baldzius> error list i mean
00:19 < Baldzius> there should be no kde packages
00:19 < Baldzius> kvirc i will fix soon
00:30 < morfoh> rxr: do you build a real ref build or a generic one ?
00:36 < morfoh> rxr: btw, you should remove nzg.geeks.cl from the mirror list
00:37 < rxr> morfoh: mirror worked for me some days ago
00:37 < rxr> what do you mean with real vs. generic?
00:38 < rxr> a reference build as defined in the t2 target ...
00:40 < morfoh> rxr: but nzg told us that his mirror will be slosed at the end of sept.
00:41 < rxr> oh
00:41 < rxr> :-(
00:41 < rxr> why?
00:41 < morfoh> rxr: I just asked because mnemoc mostly does generic builds with pkgsel for reference. I will start a generic trunk build now
00:41 < morfoh> he left his work
00:41 < rxr> oh
00:41 < morfoh> and it isn't working anymore since 1. Oct.
00:42 < morfoh> it was the prefered mirror of my root server :(
00:42 < rxr> morfoh: :-(
00:43 < morfoh> rxr: ack ... if I had some more free bandwidth on my server I'd open one
00:44 < rxr> does anyone preparing to start a new build now?
00:44 < morfoh> me
00:44 < rxr> if so I could commit a big glibc update and cleanup
00:44 < morfoh> just do it :)
00:44 < rxr> otherwise I would commit tomorrow when my x86 ref build with it entered stage 2 ...
00:44 < rxr> or 3 ...
00:44 < rxr> but I need sleep now
00:44 < rxr> archivista work on my TODO for early morning ...
00:45 < morfoh> yeah ... me too ... but I wanted to start a fresh trung ref build before I go sleep
00:45 < rxr> morfoh: with or without extreme glibc* change ?
00:45 < morfoh> if you want
00:46 < morfoh> I guess with glibc* update the ref build would be a bit more "fresh" ;)
00:48 < rxr> sparc does cross build
00:48 < rxr> it did not before ,-)
00:48 < morfoh> fine :)
00:50 < mnemoc> 2re
00:50 < rxr> glibc/glibc.conf | 72 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++-----------------------
00:50 < rxr> glibc32/glibc32.conf | 74 ++++++---------------------------------------------
00:50 < rxr> 2 files changed, 47 insertions(+), 99 deletions(-)
00:52 < mnemoc> nzg doesn't support t2 now?
00:54 < morfoh> mnemoc: he talked with us early sept. that he will change his workplace and that unfortunately the mirror will not be available anymore
00:56 < mnemoc> ic
00:56 < rxr> morfoh: 1-strace fails in ref
00:56 < rxr> no idea if you want to update then ...
00:57 < morfoh> rxr: doesn't sound good ...
01:00 < CIA-2> rene * r12568 /trunk/package/base/ (15 files in 2 dirs):
01:00 < CIA-2> * updated glibc (2.3.5 -> 20051010), glibc32 (2.3.5 -> 20051010) and
01:00 < CIA-2> further cleaned the glibc.conf as well as reuse it in glibc32.conf.
01:00 < CIA-2> Made glibc* to default to NPTL / TLS including support for sparc*.
01:00 < CIA-2> MAJOR ABI CHANGE !!!
01:02 < rxr> the NPTL / TLS should give a huge performance gain on threaded applications
01:02 < rxr> as adverticed many times already
01:02 < rxr> nearly every other dists does use it by default already
01:02 < rxr> this is a major ABI change copared to linuxthread as used formerly
01:02 < rxr> a rebuld of all apps is needed for such a change
01:03 < rxr> morfoh: but 1-perl built - and sparc cross builds ...
01:03 < rxr> so 1-strace might not be too worring
01:03 < rxr> so - me bad - I'll see more when I get up tomorrow
01:03 < rxr> at least sparc does build now ,-) add that is really cool ,-)
01:04 < morfoh> rxr: ok ... I'll check
01:04 < morfoh> rxr: good night ... sleep well
01:05 < rxr> n8 all - sleep well, too
01:05 < morfoh> thx ... yep ... I'll go sleep now
01:06 < rxr> # chroot build/reference-2.2.0-alpha-x86-pentium-mmx-reference/ usr/bin/perl -v
01:06 < rxr> This is perl, v5.8.7 built for i586-t2-linux-gnu
01:06 < rxr> ^- ref build ,-)
01:06 < morfoh> hehe :)
01:07 < rxr> so glibc can not be too bad ,-)
01:08 < mnemoc> r12568 :o
01:08 < rxr> mnemoc: ?
01:09 < mnemoc> i thought you wont do such change on 2.2
01:10 < rxr> mnemoc: I said this morning or yesterday or so that at least on sparc with gcc-4.0 glibc-2.3 is too fragile / broken
01:10 < rxr> thus your wish comes true ,-)
01:10 < rxr> work so far - even cross builds for sparc and sparc64 with NPTL / TLS ,-)
01:11 < rxr> cross builds on x86-64 to sparc* ,-)
01:11 < rxr> T2 is with us ,-)
01:11 < morfoh> haha :)
01:11 < rxr> so finally /me in bed
01:12 < mnemoc> rxr: :D
01:12 < mnemoc> gn8 rxr ;)
01:45 < mnemoc> morfoh: http://www.compulab.co.il
01:49 < mnemoc> morfoh: finally clear pricing rules on a site
01:50 < morfoh> yep
01:51 < morfoh> interesting
01:52 < morfoh> but I have to go sleep now ... good night :)
01:52 < CIA-2> aldas * r12569 /trunk/package/kde/kvirc/kvirc.conf:
01:52 < CIA-2> * added kvirc.conf to avoid "shared files" conflict with
01:52 < CIA-2> kdenetwork
01:53 < morfoh> == 10/14/05 01:48:49 =[0]=> Aborted building package lzop.
01:53 < morfoh> ^ trunk
01:53 < morfoh> !> checking for lzoconf.h... no
01:53 < morfoh> !> checking lzo1x.h usability... no
01:53 < morfoh> !> checking lzo1x.h presence... no
01:53 < morfoh> !> checking for lzo1x.h... no
01:53 < morfoh> !> configure: error: LZO header files not found. Please che ..
01:53 < morfoh> !
01:55 < mnemoc> iirc that is solved in trunk:HEAD from long time ago
01:55 < morfoh> fresh sync
01:56 < mnemoc> grep lzo config/foo/packages
01:56 < mnemoc> and check prios
02:01 < morfoh> Commercial users must buy an Evaluation Kit of the relevant product. Technical support is provided only to buyers of Evaluation Kits. Purchasing of Evaluation Kit enables the following benefits:
02:01 < morfoh> ^ http://www.compulab.co.il/price-eval-kits.htm
02:03 < mnemoc> i guess it's similar on other vendors
02:07 < morfoh> it seems so ... :|
02:07 < morfoh> i've to go sleep now ... gn8 mnemoc
02:08 < mnemoc> gn8 morfoh
02:11 < jsaw> mnemoc: http://www.pcengines.ch/order.php
02:11 < jsaw> https://kd85.com/soekris.html
02:18 < jsaw> rxr: == 10/14/05 04:08:45 =[0]=> Aborted building package glibc.
02:18 < jsaw> rxr: due to old compiler on host system....
02:18 < jsaw> rxr: we have to build gcc in stage 0 also...
02:18 < jsaw> rxr: btw, compiler on host system is 3.3.3
02:23 < jsaw> g'night
02:24 < mnemoc> wb jsaw
02:24 < mnemoc> gn8 jsaw
02:26 < Baldzius> gn8 all
02:29 < mnemoc> gn8 Baldzius
04:57 < CIA-2> amery * r12570 /branches/2.1/package/develop/php/ (config.hlp config.in php.conf):
04:57 < CIA-2> * merged 11746,11785 from trunk: changed php config to detect instead of using annoying options
04:57 < CIA-2> * merged 12496 from trunk: changed php to build fastcgi if apache is not available
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07:08 < rxr> re
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07:52 [Users #t2]
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07:52 [ _Ragnar_ ] [ jsaw ] [ nzg ] [ SerWou ]
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07:54 < CIA-2> rene * r12571 /trunk/scripts/functions.in:
07:54 < CIA-2> * reverted r12563: removal of grave historic config.cache creation
07:54 < CIA-2> relict - some utterly broken package still need help :-( But do
07:54 < CIA-2> not inject architecture related values.
07:58 < CIA-2> rene * r12572 /trunk/scripts/functions.in:
07:58 < CIA-2> * only do the .cache creation in stage 1 since it is utterly wrong
07:58 < CIA-2> in stage 0, also use arch_machine to decide about lib64, since
07:58 < CIA-2> this is what can be altered during the build - e.g. by sparc64
08:03 < CIA-2> rene * r12573 /trunk/scripts/functions.in: * fixed pkggetdir to not leak double slashes into path names
08:06 < rxr> mnemoc: r12573 would be good for stable too - though cosmetic nature
08:14 < CIA-2> rene * r12574 /trunk/package/filesystem/ntfsprogs/ntfsprogs.desc: * updated ntfsprogs (1.12.0 -> 1.12.1)
08:31 < CIA-2> rene * r12575 /trunk/package/network/curl/curl.desc: * updated curl (7.14.1 -> 7.15.0)
08:36 < nzg> moin
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08:38 < mtr> moin
08:44 < rxr> moin mtr
08:45 < mtr> hi rene
09:04 < valentin> moin
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09:17 < rxr> moin valentin !
09:20 < valentin> hi rene
09:20 < valentin> how are you ?
09:21 < rxr> oh - mostly fine
09:21 < rxr> and you - healty again ?
09:22 < valentin> well, a bit better
09:22 < rxr> only a bit ?
09:22 < valentin> the day before yesterday i spend in bed
09:22 < valentin> and yesterday was kerstins birthday, so i had to walk around a bit
09:22 < valentin> today i am quite fine again
09:23 < valentin> but still a bit of a chill
09:25 < rxr> can imagine
09:25 < rxr> greetings to kersin - best wishes for her birthday
09:30 < valentin> ok
09:30 < valentin> rxr: you know we will be in lauenau from monday to monday ?
09:31 < rxr> ah yes - you said one
09:31 < rxr> once
09:32 < valentin> so maybe we should trade keys in case you need a scanner or fix exactcode.de ?
09:33 < rxr> yep
09:46 < CIA-2> rene * r12576 /trunk/package/base/glibc/glibc.conf: * fixed includedir for glibc cross build - last night typo
10:11 < CIA-2> rene * r12577 /trunk/package/network/apache/apache.init:
10:11 < CIA-2> * improved apache.init to use -k before the control keyword, AFAICS
10:11 < CIA-2> the long version seems to be needed if defines are supplied with -D
10:46 < CIA-2> rene * r12578 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/ (5 files in 3 dirs):
10:46 < CIA-2> * added code and menu entries to target/archivista to allow en/disable
10:46 < CIA-2> of apache https/ssl support, moved the data exchange encryption key
10:46 < CIA-2> into a sub-menu added an explicit URL to the startup firefox start
10:46 < CIA-2> so it can be translated to http/https automatically, patched
10:46 < CIA-2> httpd.conf to exclusively use http _or_ https so users can not
10:46 < CIA-2> accidently use http when https should be used thruout the company
10:46 < rxr> .oO
10:47 < rxr> this 64bit Turion is so much faster than my desktop Athlon - guess I should start using the subnotebook the whole day ...
10:50 < Baldzius> good morning :)
10:50 < rxr> moin Baldzius
10:50 < Baldzius> moin rxr
10:52 < CIA-2> aldas * r12579 /trunk/package/graphic/cdlabelgen/cdlabelgen.desc: * updated cdlabelgen (3.5.0 -> 3.6.0)
10:55 < CIA-2> rene * r12580 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/ (apache-https-disable.sh apache-https-enable.sh): * added more user feedback to archivista/apache-https-* scripts
11:01 < rxr> ouhm
11:01 < rxr> this annoying cdrecord does even spit out advertisements for the ProDVD version when run on a DVD writer
11:01 < rxr> even for just CD burning - damn thing
11:24 < CIA-2> aldas * r12581 /trunk/package/textproc/fribidi/fribidi.desc: * updated fribidi (0.10.5 -> 0.10.7)
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11:40 [Users #t2]
11:40 [ _Lewellyn] [ CIA-2 ] [ mtr] [ rxr ] [ Shingo--]
11:40 [ _Ragnar_ ] [ jsaw ] [ nzg] [ rxr_ ] [ valentin]
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11:52 < CIA-2> aldas * r12582 /trunk/package/multimedia/klear/klear.desc: * updated klear (0.4 -> 0.4.1)
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11:55 < CIA-2> aldas * r12583 /trunk/package/security/libgcrypt/libgcrypt.desc: * updated libgcrypt (1.2.1 -> 1.2.2)
11:57 < CIA-2> rene * r12584 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/status.sh:
11:57 < CIA-2> * sorted archivista/status.sh and added support for network backup,
11:57 < CIA-2> graphical remote access (VNC) and Apache https and print the days
11:57 < CIA-2> of backup
12:08 < CIA-2> rene * r12585 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/.fluxbox/menu: * broke the archivista menu entry to start a XTerm into two lines
12:19 < rxr> .oO
12:19 < rxr> s.th. in the new glibc makes hackery in our shell build scripts fail
12:23 < rxr> s,fail,hang / stall,
12:35 * rxr testing fedora core bash patches:
12:35 < rxr> shells/bash# svn st | grep patch | wc -l
12:35 < rxr> 26
12:35 < rxr> ...
12:36 < Baldzius> :)
12:36 < rxr> hm - doesn't help for my hang issue ...
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12:37 < Baldzius> rxr what about yours reference build? are you doing it from the beginning?
12:42 < rxr> ehrm?
12:42 < rxr> I wanted to rebuild glibc chrooted in the new system for a test
12:42 < rxr> it's configure stalls as well ...
12:42 < rxr> damn glibc dunk
12:43 < Baldzius> oh
12:45 < rxr> hm - with pdksh it runns thru
12:45 < rxr> interesting issue
12:46 * rxr praying with /bin/sh -> /bin/pdksh glibc builds in the chroot ...
12:46 < rxr> and then I wanna see the testsuite failures ...
12:46 * rxr praying it is only yet another bash bug ...
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13:05 < rxr> with pdksh glibc built inside the fresh chroot ...
13:05 < rxr> make check running ... ,-)
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13:11 < morfoh> moin
13:12 < Baldzius> moin morfoh
13:13 < rxr> moin morfoh
13:20 < morfoh> moin rxr + Baldzius
13:25 < rxr> morfoh: there is some strange issue with the glibc - will debug this today ...
13:25 < rxr> the first chroot package will most likely hang building ...
13:25 < rxr> just in case you build trunk in one way or another morfoh
13:31 < morfoh> rxr: ack ... 0-gcc failed on my build
13:33 < rxr> ah yep - read that - it shhould not fail
13:33 < rxr> can you paste / sen tme the relecant snipples from the config.log ?
13:36 < rxr> btw: http://www.tvtoday.de/entertainment/kino/146862.html
13:37 < rxr> I hope they have some tux every now and then so people will go home and install linux immediatly ...
14:19 < Baldzius> :)
15:21 < rxr> fedora core has a strace version that does not yet exist - wonderful
15:23 < rxr> 55f9673e9712d02a4cb5314bafe38dea strace-4.5.13.tar.bz2
15:24 < rxr> don't see that on the net yet ...
15:36 < mnemoc> rxr: 12573 and waht else?
15:37 < mnemoc> moin!
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15:37 < keinek> hi
15:37 < mnemoc> moin keinek
15:43 < rxr> mnemoc: moin
15:43 < rxr> mnemoc: glibc on trunk has issues .-(
15:44 < rxr> mnemoc: just double // prevention - just that rev ,-)
15:48 < mnemoc> rxr: ok ;)
15:48 < mnemoc> but most // issues are due to $root/$thing
15:48 < mnemoc> on .conf
15:58 < Baldzius> hi mnemoc
16:00 < mnemoc> hi Baldzius
16:02 < mnemoc> rxr: Topic for #unionfs: UnionFS 1.0.14 available
16:07 < rxr> mnemoc: we are at 14-cvs in trunk AFAIR
16:08 < owl> bwahahahahahahahaahahahah
16:08 < rxr> mnemoc: yes - in combination this leaded to tripple /// sometimes even
16:08 < rxr> mnemoc: be happy I fixed the worst case now ,-)
16:08 < owl> i will get my money :)
16:10 < mnemoc> rxr: :)
16:10 < mnemoc> rxr: the other has no elegant solution since the decition of adding the heading / on $foodir ;)
16:10 < mnemoc> owl: money for?
16:11 < owl> mnemoc: for my defect notebook *smiles innocently*
16:11 < mnemoc> defect :p
16:11 < CIA-2> rene * r12586 /trunk/package/base/util-linux/util-linux.conf:
16:11 < CIA-2> * removed extremly annoying disabling of programs utilizing ncurses in
16:11 < CIA-2> the util-linux package - builds fine for me
16:11 < owl> yeah :) now i am able to buy "my" new laptop
16:11 < rxr> mnemoc: I'll fix that as well as soon as I reach that point of my 8MB TODO file ,-)
16:12 < mnemoc> :)
16:12 < rxr> mnemoc: r12586 was code from r1 - the historic rock cruft ...
16:12 < owl> and why? - because i wrote a weblog with the facts
16:13 < mnemoc> :-)
16:14 < mnemoc> rxr: i want to tag 2.1.0 tomorrow, if you have a minute can you see if i'm missing any important merge?
16:14 < rxr> mnemoc: .oO()
16:15 < rxr> mnemoc: yes, of course
16:15 * rxr have I said that ... ?
16:15 < mnemoc> yes, you did.. and loud :)
16:15 < CIA-2> aldas * r12587 /trunk/package/network/lftp/lftp.desc:
16:15 < CIA-2> * updated lftp (3.2.1 -> 3.3.1)
16:15 < CIA-2> * changed [D] url
16:16 < CIA-2> rene * r12588 /trunk/package/base/strace/temp-compile.patch: * temporarily compile fix for strace with latest sys/quota.h :-(
16:22 < rxr> mnemoc: what rev. range should I review?
16:22 < rxr> do you have some TOP revision until which you have reviewed ?
16:23 < mnemoc> i think it's fully reviewed until 9800
16:23 < rxr> mnemoc: and first I need to find what is haging bash in trunk :-(
16:23 < rxr> otherwise it is a bit useless
16:24 < mnemoc> ok ;)
16:24 < rxr> mnemoc: oh - that are some revision to go ...
16:24 < rxr> t2's pace is quite fast these days
16:24 < rxr> mnemoc: as soon as I have my trunk progressing any package in the chroot I review
16:24 < rxr> I hope this is today ...
16:24 < rxr> damned bash .. :-(
16:24 < mnemoc> but Create-Diff may be more usefull i guess
16:24 < rxr> pdksh does work fine
16:25 < rxr> e.g. even configure scripts freeze bash - not only advanced t2 shell scripting ...
16:25 < rxr> with pdksh I can fully bootstrap glibc inside the chroot ...
16:25 < mnemoc> rxr: i have 1260 unread mails on the commit list :\
16:25 < rxr> including running nearly all testsuite sets ...
16:25 < rxr> only those expected to fail fail I AFAICS
16:35 < mnemoc> rxr: why 1.0.14-cvs and not 1.0.14?
16:36 < rxr> I think there was some change thereafter I wanted to have
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16:55 < morfoh> re
16:56 < mnemoc> wb morfoh
16:56 < morfoh> hi mnemoc
16:57 * morfoh needs a coffee ...
16:57 < morfoh> brb
17:00 < mnemoc> yuck.... i sent 15 minutes configuring my new 'maserati' and now the stupid simulator doesn't tell me the price :\
17:01 < mnemoc> spent*
17:03 < morfoh> mnemoc: what a maserati ? seems that master mnemoc is a bit car addicted. jaguar, maserati, ... :p
17:04 < morfoh> mnemoc: if you want to be my friend you can name your next server "trabbi" :)
17:04 < Baldzius> :)
17:04 < mnemoc> http://www.maserati.com/jsp/cc4p/splash.jsp
17:05 < morfoh>
17:05 < morfoh> mnemoc: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trabbi ;)
17:08 < mnemoc> that's your car?
17:09 < rxr> mnemoc: may I vote to rm -rf bash and write a t2 or exact shell - whatever you prefer ?
17:10 < mnemoc> a lua based bourne shell would be nice :p
17:11 < mnemoc> morfoh: i may name my first sedu, trabbi :)
17:12 < mnemoc> or trabant if that is more correct
17:21 < mnemoc> rxr: php 5.0.5 installs crap at /usr/lib/build/
17:23 < rxr> mnemoc: hm
17:36 < morfoh> mnemoc: yes ... name it trabbi and I'll be happy :)
17:44 < SerWou> good afternoon
17:44 < SerWou> i'm trying a t2 i compiled a couple hours ago, and when i do "startx" i've got this error : xauth: error while loading shared libraries:libXmuu.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
17:45 < SerWou> any idea ?
17:46 < morfoh> bonjour SerWou :)
17:46 < morfoh> do you use trunk or stable ?
17:47 < mnemoc> SerWou: run ldconfig
17:47 < morfoh> do you find the library on your system
17:47 < morfoh> mnemoc: yep ... ldconfig is also a good choice for a first test ;)
17:48 < morfoh> but normally it should run ldconfig automatically ... or isn't it ?
17:48 < mnemoc> yep
17:52 < SerWou> i used stable
17:53 < SerWou> hello mnemoc
17:53 < SerWou> salut morfoh ;)
17:53 < mnemoc> SerWou: hi, ldconfig worked?
17:53 < SerWou> yes
17:53 < SerWou> no error
17:53 < SerWou> running during 10 secondes i think
17:54 < mnemoc> cron.daily should have made that on install time for you .oO
17:55 < SerWou> could this error come from my mistake, i mean, if i removed something important and created this error ? what is the package who install libXmuu.* ?
17:55 < SerWou> it did mnemoc , the installed ran it
17:55 < mnemoc> grep libXmuu /var/adm/flist/*
17:57 < SerWou> xorg and lesstiff
17:57 < mnemoc> o.o
17:58 < SerWou> what's up mnemoc ?
17:59 < mnemoc> nothing
18:00 < SerWou> should i try to recompile xord ?
18:00 < SerWou> xorg*
18:01 < morfoh> I've to move, because I've to visit a computer shop before I go home. I have to buy a new cable ... rat has destroyed my cable again :/
18:01 < SerWou> lol
18:02 < mnemoc> SerWou: nah
18:02 < morfoh> ok ... ladies and gentleman ... bye bye
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18:20 < CIA-2> rene * r12589 /trunk/package/base/glibc32/glibc32.conf: * reenabled -m32 injection for glibc32 - needed for x86-64's i386 glibc
18:24 < rxr> hm - the 2.6.13 kernel does not really recognize my onboard and main sound chip ..
18:24 < rxr> damn - only the 10 channel beast does seem to work - which I ususally do not use to listen to mp3 ...
19:07 < CIA-2> rene * r12590 /trunk/package/base/glibc32/glibc32.conf:
19:07 < CIA-2> * as like using sparcv9* for glibc32 something higher than i386 is
19:07 < CIA-2> needed for the x86_64 glibc, since otherwise atomic instructions
19:07 < CIA-2> are not available - use i686
19:08 -!- minto_ [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2
19:08 < minto_> hi all
19:08 < mnemoc> wb minto_
19:12 < rxr> hi minto_
19:13 < minto_> hi rxr, mnemoc.
19:13 < minto_> I think I am gonna change my nick.
19:13 < mnemoc> why?
19:14 < minto_> someone else has the same one
19:14 < minto_> that person actually owns it.
19:14 < mnemoc> :(
19:14 < minto_> last time I was thrown out with a nick clash
19:14 < mnemoc> register minto_ :)
19:14 < minto_> :(
19:15 < minto_> how about
19:15 -!- minto_ is now known as misl
19:15 < misl> pronounced missile :)
19:15 < mnemoc> i noticed ;)
19:16 < misl> how do I register it?
19:17 < mnemoc> /msg nickserv html
19:17 < mnemoc> /msg nickserv help
19:17 < rxr> wee yipi
19:18 * rxr praying ...
19:18 * mnemoc hit his fingers
19:18 < mnemoc> glibc/sparc working?
19:18 < rxr> nope x86 ,-)!
19:18 < rxr> sparc worked yesterday
19:18 < mnemoc> :p
19:18 < rxr> this is the first time in my life that sparc built out of the box and x86 was f*cked up
19:19 < mnemoc> 12573 rejects on 2.1 :\
19:19 < rxr> mnemoc: oh :-(
19:19 < mnemoc> is it only 's,/$prefix,${prefix:+/$prefix},g' ?
19:19 < rxr> yeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
19:20 < rxr> mnemoc: ack
19:20 < rxr> trunk back on track ,-)
19:22 < mnemoc> :D
19:22 < CIA-2> rene * r12591 /trunk/package/base/ (glibc/glibc.desc glibc32/glibc32.desc):
19:22 < CIA-2> * downdated glibc (20051010 -> 20050919) and glibc32 (20051010 -> 20050919),
19:22 < CIA-2> the former does hang on certain futex operations ...
19:25 < rxr> now I only need to find out why I get unresolved symbol __tls_get_addr on x86-64
19:25 < mnemoc> rxr: on 12573 you didn't fix sysconfdir or localstatedir
19:26 < rxr> ?
19:26 < mnemoc> 's,/$prefix,${prefix:+/$prefix},g' thing
19:27 < mnemoc> oh
19:27 < mnemoc> sorry
19:27 < mnemoc> it was pre-done
19:27 < mnemoc> - *) echo "${prefix:+/$prefix}/var" ;;
19:27 < mnemoc> + *) echo "${prefix:+${prefix:+/$prefix}}/var" ;;
19:27 < mnemoc> :p
19:27 < mnemoc> sed patching
19:27 < rxr> mnemoc: ack - you already frightened me ...
19:28 < mnemoc> :-)
19:30 < rxr> == 19:28:04 =[2]=> Building base/gcc [4.0.2 2.2.0-alpha].
19:30 < rxr> trunk HEAD ref build ,-)
19:30 < rxr> not crunching thru stage 2 ,-)
19:31 < rxr> ^-now
19:31 < mnemoc> :)
19:31 < mnemoc> may the force be with you
19:37 < rxr> oops
19:37 < rxr> ok - x86-64 issue was due to TLS not beeing enabled in my old T2 config files ,-(
19:39 < rxr> if all problems would be that easy to solve ,-)
19:39 < rxr> I would say trunk is now even more state of the art the before ...
19:40 < rxr> never software than that is simply not possible ,-)
19:40 < rxr> except a few days newer but broken glibc snapshot ,-)
19:40 < mnemoc> :)
19:40 < rxr> hey - now linux26mm ,-)
19:40 < mnemoc> :-)
19:40 < mnemoc> svn rm linux24
19:42 < rxr> I know your dreams already ,-)
19:43 < mnemoc> :)
19:54 < valentin> hi
19:54 < valentin> did someone update curl today ?
19:54 < rxr> yes
19:54 < rxr> of course
19:55 < valentin> :)
19:55 < rxr> and glibc and and and ...
19:55 < valentin> in submaster allready ?
19:55 < rxr> I fear there are few packages that could be update ...
19:55 < rxr> valentin: no idea
19:55 < rxr> I only check submaster for inpsiration every few weeks - more is not necessary ,-)
19:56 < valentin> how are you today ?
19:56 < rxr> oh - good
19:56 < rxr> now that trunk's glibc snapshot builds again ,-)
19:57 < rxr> I have 1222 bonus points on my cell - did not know I collect anything and now I investigate what they are good for ...
19:58 < mnemoc> to change them for more minutes?
19:59 < rxr> or useless gadgets ...
19:59 < rxr> ok for 200 I can change my homezone
20:00 < rxr> I try that - wanted to do that anyway - trying to cover susan's flat as well ,-)
20:00 < rxr> though people like those from archivista could reach me more often then - sigh :-(
20:01 < mnemoc> :)
20:02 < mnemoc> reach you by phone ;)
20:11 < rxr> ok /me off to susan ,-) cu then
20:12 < mnemoc> misl: http://anyterm.org/
20:12 < mnemoc> enjoy rxr
20:13 < misl> bye rxr
20:13 < valentin> cu rxr
20:14 < valentin> mnemoc: aaaahhrr - are you crazy ?
20:15 < rxr> cu
20:15 < valentin> ic. you install anyterm on your own machine
20:15 < misl> mnemoc: seems like anyterm works approx. the same as SOTH
20:15 < valentin> that is reasonable
20:16 < valentin> i first thought it was some sort of phishing webpage
20:17 < misl> hi valentin, how is janna doing?
20:17 < mnemoc> :-)
20:17 < valentin> minto: fine. its just me who's ill
20:18 < mnemoc> misl: soth?
20:19 < misl> mnemoc: that java thing you pointed me to before Socket Over Http something. Hmm, dunno where the T goes.
20:20 < misl> Ahh, SOHT (Socket over HTTP Tunneling)
20:20 < misl> http://www.ericdaugherty.com/dev/java.html
20:20 < mnemoc> misl: :)
20:20 < mnemoc> misl: this one is javascript :p
20:21 < mnemoc> AJAX
20:21 < mnemoc> and demos don't feel slow
20:29 < misl> valentin: no bird flu I hope :)
20:44 < rxr> re
20:45 < mnemoc> rxr: about 12573, why did you patch foodir with explicit if [ -z "$prefix" ] ?
21:01 < _Ragnar_> 103802 < rxr> ok - x86-64 issue was due to TLS not beeing enabled in my old T2 config files ,-(
21:01 < _Ragnar_> huh?
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21:08 < karasz> moin all
21:08 < rxr> _Ragnar_: with latest glib ...
21:08 < rxr> _Ragnar_: we defaulted to no TLS until now ...
21:08 < _Ragnar_> if glibc requires lts now we should force it on
21:08 < _Ragnar_> tls*
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21:09 < karasz> guys i just read Rene's mail
21:10 < karasz> if somebody has the time i would like some info (in plain english if possible) about the changes between linuxthreads and NPTL
21:11 < karasz> "get the associated performance increase"
21:11 < karasz> sounds interesting...
21:14 < rxr> karasz: the included links include info - should I summarize them?
21:14 < rxr> _Ragnar_: linuxthreads is still there
21:14 < karasz> no rxr
21:14 < karasz> at least not now
21:14 < karasz> maybe after i got through them
21:15 < rxr> _Ragnar_: maybe we need to change the linuxthread config options - e.g. one of the without ones we inject
21:15 < _Ragnar_> .oO(what does tls have to do with linuxthreads?)
21:18 < mnemoc> rxr: about 12573, why did you patch foodir with explicit if [ -z "$prefix" ] ?
21:19 < rxr> mnemoc: maybe cause I was blinded
21:22 < mnemoc> :)
21:23 < rxr> mnemoc: what about using the default value expansion to remove the if's ?
21:25 < mnemoc> how would you handle usr/ for empty in that case?
21:27 < rxr> datadir) echo "${prefix:-/usr}/share" ;;
21:27 < rxr> infodir) echo "${prefix:-/usr}/info" ;;
21:27 < rxr> mandir) echo "${prefix:-/usr}/man" ;;
21:27 < rxr> docdir) echo "${prefix:-/usr}/doc/$xpkg" ;;
21:27 < rxr> ...
21:27 < rxr> ?
21:27 < CIA-2> amery * r12592 /trunk/package/base/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
21:27 < CIA-2> * removed socklog postinstall, because it sucks
21:27 < CIA-2> * added tail files for socklog-klog and socklog-syslog
21:28 < mnemoc> /${prefix:-usr}/share ?
21:30 < rxr> ah - yes
21:30 < rxr> no
21:31 < rxr> that would double slash in the middle
21:31 < rxr> ah - no
21:31 < rxr> all fine
21:32 < rxr> + datadir) echo "/${prefix:-usr}/share" ;;
21:32 < rxr> + infodir) echo "/${prefix:-usr}/info" ;;
21:32 < rxr> + mandir) echo "/${prefix:-usr}/man" ;;
21:32 < rxr> + docdir) echo "/${prefix:-usr}/doc/$xpkg" ;;
21:32 < rxr> + includedir) echo "/${prefix:-usr}/include" ;;
21:32 < rxr> commit ?
21:33 < mnemoc> and localstatedir ?
21:33 < mnemoc> ....
21:33 < mnemoc> they look ok as they are :)
21:34 < rxr> localstatedir and sysconfdir stay cased ?
21:34 < mnemoc> any better suggestion?
21:35 < rxr> we could do:
21:36 < rxr> /etc/${prefix#usr}
21:36 < rxr> since we do not allow /usr/local as prefix ...
21:36 < rxr> for "" usr and /opt/* that would work out, right?
21:39 < mnemoc> yep
21:39 < mnemoc> let's obscure the code :p
21:46 < rxr> ouhm - keeping / pretty is difficult
21:50 < CIA-2> amery * r12593 /branches/2.1/package/base/ (4 files in 2 dirs): * merged 12592 from trunk: removed socklog postinstall, and added tail files instead
21:59 < CIA-2> amery * r12594 /trunk/package/emulators/xmame/xmame.desc:
21:59 < CIA-2> keinek :
21:59 < CIA-2> * updated xmame (0.99 -> 0.100)
22:04 < rxr> + local x=/$prefix
22:04 < rxr> + sysconfdir) echo "/etc${prefix#/usr}" ;;
22:04 < rxr> + localstatedir) echo "/var${prefix#/usr}" ;;
22:04 < rxr> is that acceptable ?
22:04 < rxr> oh - damn the later soudl be x
22:05 < rxr> oh - also imperfect
22:09 < rxr> local x=${prefix:+/$prefix}
22:09 < rxr> sysconfdir) echo "/etc${x#/usr}" ;;
22:09 < rxr> localstatedir) echo "/var${x#/usr}" ;;
22:09 < rxr> mnemoc: ?
22:09 < rxr> anything better?
22:10 < rxr> functions.in | 47 ++++++++---------------------------------------
22:10 < rxr> 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 39 deletions(-)
22:10 < rxr> ,-)
22:11 < mnemoc> that x could be used on the whole function
22:11 < rxr> named xprefix?
22:15 < mnemoc> sounds good
22:18 < mnemoc> misl: your mail is bouncing
22:19 < mnemoc> MSEXCH :D
22:20 < rxr> functions.in | 55 ++++++++++++-------------------------------------------
22:20 < rxr> 1 file changed, 12 insertions(+), 43 deletions(-)
22:21 < rxr> mnemoc: "compressed" diff:
22:21 < rxr> + local xprefix=${prefix:+/$prefix}
22:21 < rxr> case "$1" in
22:21 < rxr> + bindir) echo "$xprefix/bin" ;;
22:21 < rxr> + sbindir) echo "$xprefix/sbin" ;;
22:21 < rxr> libdir)
22:21 < rxr> case $arch_machine in
22:21 < rxr> powerpc64|sparc64|x86-64)
22:21 < rxr> + echo "$xprefix/lib64" ;;
22:21 < rxr> *)
22:21 < rxr> + echo "$xprefix/lib" ;;
22:21 < rxr> esac
22:21 < rxr> ;;
22:21 < rxr> + datadir) echo "${xprefix:-/usr}/share" ;;
22:21 < rxr> + infodir) echo "${xprefix:-/usr}/info" ;;
22:21 < rxr> + mandir) echo "${xprefix:-/usr}/man" ;;
22:21 < rxr> + docdir) echo "${xprefix:-/usr}/doc/$xpkg" ;;
22:21 < rxr> + includedir) echo "${xprefix:-/usr}/include" ;;
22:21 < rxr> + sysconfdir) echo "/etc${xprefix#/usr}" ;;
22:21 < rxr> + localstatedir) echo "/var${xprefix#/usr}" ;;
22:21 < rxr> do you see a typo ?
22:22 * mnemoc feels shame of his fat function
22:22 < mnemoc> looks ok
22:23 * rxr feels ashamed with the last commit to conditional expand on zero with a if -z above ... ,-)
22:23 < mnemoc> :p
22:26 < CIA-2> rene * r12595 /trunk/scripts/functions.in: * simplified pkggetdir and removed a lot conditionals
22:29 < rxr> Snd 7.16
22:33 < mnemoc> http://www.acrosser.com/UploadFiles/ProductPicUrl/PW9040.jpg <--- where people plug AC on this things?
22:34 < rxr> mnemoc: ?
22:35 < rxr> and what is it for ?
22:36 < mnemoc> 40W power supply
22:37 < mnemoc> i'm still looking for my cheap thinclient console-only machine :)
22:38 < mnemoc> http://www.acrosser.com/Product/Embedded%20PC/PC104/pc104_486stpc_b1423a.html <--- very promising :)
22:39 < mnemoc> i could even have basic UI on that 486
22:39 < rxr> price ?
22:40 < mnemoc> i'll mail now
22:47 < rxr> == 21:49:02 =[5]=> Building base/glibc [20050919 2.2.0-alpha].
22:47 < rxr> ^- reference build
22:47 < mnemoc> go go go
22:49 < rxr> Error logs from reference-2.2.0-alpha-x86-pentium-mmx-reference:
22:49 < rxr> 2086 builds total, 137 completed fine, 0 with errors.
22:50 < rxr> tomorrow I'll power up the U5 with 370Mhz again - let's see how trunk builds on sparc then ,-)
22:50 < rxr> it did build cross ,-)
22:50 < mnemoc> :)
22:50 < mnemoc> kudos ;)
22:52 < rxr> I still pray my x86-64 build start from scratch does go fine now as well
22:54 < rxr> do you have use for a 2500 Athlon XP+ board with CPU?
22:54 < mnemoc> my home PC is a p3/733 :)
22:55 < rxr> is that a yes or no?
22:56 < mnemoc> it's a "for sure!"
22:58 < CIA-2> rene * r12596 /trunk/scripts/functions.in:
22:58 < CIA-2> * fixed pkggetdir to use x86_64 not x86-64 now we use arch_machine
22:58 < CIA-2> to decide about lib64
23:25 < CIA-2> aldas * r12597 /trunk/package/audio/ardour/ (ardour.cache ardour.conf ardour.desc no_gtk1_path.patch):
23:25 < CIA-2> * updated ardour (0.9beta30 -> 0.99)
23:25 < CIA-2> * updated .cache
23:25 < CIA-2> * added .conf to make package compile {uses scons}
23:25 < CIA-2> * added no_gtk1_path.patch to fix compile failure
23:27 < Baldzius> hope -1 from ref err
23:30 < rxr> ,-) - maybe I can tell you tomorrow ,-)
23:33 < Baldzius> ok, i'll wait for err list refresh :)
23:34 < Baldzius> oh tomorrow i will fix one more package: psi
23:34 < rxr> right now everything is rebuild due to major glibc change ...
23:35 < rxr> Baldzius: nice - thanks
23:36 < Baldzius> :)
23:45 < _Ragnar_> why does polgen install strace? o_o
23:51 < _Ragnar_> rxr: glibc.conf line 125ff
23:52 < _Ragnar_> the sed 's...' ... shouldn't that be sed -e ?
23:52 < rxr> sed needs no -e
23:52 < rxr> one expression is implicit -e
23:52 < rxr> this sed is a hack and no longer needed
23:53 < rxr> it is scheduled for removal on my notebook
23:53 < rxr> I can commit now
23:53 < _Ragnar_> plz
23:55 < CIA-2> rene * r12598 /trunk/package/base/glibc/glibc.conf:
23:55 < CIA-2> * removed no longer working, obsolete path tweaking from libc.so
23:55 < CIA-2> from glibc.conf
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