T2 IRC Log: 2005-10-03
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--- Log opened Mon Oct 03 00:00:38 2005
00:54 < CIA-9> valentin * r12237 /trunk/package/graphic/stellarium/ (. stellarium.desc): * added package stellarium (v0.7.1)
00:59 < valentin> ^-- quite fascinating gimick: http://www.stellarium.org/screenshots.html
00:59 < mnemoc> :D
01:03 < valentin> especialy the effects on sunrise/sunset are quite nice, with the ground and background slowly turning into silhouettes
01:03 < valentin> btw: partial eclipse tomorrow
01:03 < valentin> it even simulates ligth effects for that (!!!)
01:04 < mnemoc> :-)
01:04 < mnemoc> sdl?
01:07 < valentin> wow - click location to portugal and take a look around 11:00 local time
01:07 < valentin> mnemoc: pure opengl if i understood that
01:08 < valentin> here in germany, we will only have 40% sun covered
01:08 < valentin> so one wouldn't even notice without looking up there
01:09 < mnemoc> :)
01:12 < valentin> wow - it even has different athmospheric effects for the different background landscapes
01:12 < valentin> this developer seems to have much free time
01:13 < valentin> and you can zoom into that pictures up to more or less detailed planet view
01:15 < mnemoc> i guess they work or study that
01:18 < valentin> as i understood that, the main developer is studying computer science
01:18 < mnemoc> oh
01:18 < valentin> however, the team needs much data about theese space objects
01:18 < valentin> you even see the planets moons in their right position
01:19 < valentin> and they have about 120.000 space objects in the database
01:19 < mnemoc> oh
01:20 < valentin> well, they sold it to some planetariums
01:21 < valentin> i wonder if you can zoom into ISS, too.
01:21 < valentin> i try :)
01:22 < valentin> hm, no satellite searchable
01:23 < valentin> need to sleep now
01:24 < valentin> cu
01:24 < mnemoc> gn8 old man
01:25 < valentin> old ?
01:25 < valentin> you are the same age old man
01:26 < mnemoc> :D
01:30 < valentin> cu later this day mnemoc.
01:31 < mnemoc> cu $tomorrow valentin ;)
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03:32 < keinek> hi
06:41 < CIA-9> amery * r12238 /branches/2.1/package/graphic/ghostscript/ghostscript.desc: * merged 12206 from trunk: updated ghostscript (8.15rc3 -> 8.15.1)
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08:44 < _Ragnar_> == 23:27:44 =[0]=> Building archiver/lzop [1.02rc1 2.2.0-alpha].
08:44 < _Ragnar_> !> configure: error: LZO header files not found. Please che ..
08:44 < mnemoc> lzop on stage 0? uhm.... so lzo should be there too :(
08:57 < _Ragnar_> same error when I build lzo on stage 0 too
08:57 < _Ragnar_> doesn't find the header files
08:59 < mnemoc> right prio?
08:59 < mnemoc> so this sh* doesn't work at stage 5 neither?
08:59 < _Ragnar_> yes it gets built successfully
09:05 < mnemoc> o.o
09:05 < mnemoc> i'll better go to sleep
09:06 < _Ragnar_> me too
09:06 < _Ragnar_> nini mnemoc
09:15 < mnemoc> gn8 _Ragnar_ ;)
09:28 < valentin> moin
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09:47 < valentin> too cloudy to see the eclipse :)
09:48 < valentin> s/:)/:(/
09:48 < valentin> well, i have to use stellarium
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10:06 < SerWou> hello
10:07 < SerWou> i wonder if there is a way to compile/Emerge a file stored on the Pc, something like "./script/Emerge-Pkg /home/serwou/program.tar.bz2" ?
10:08 < valentin> hi SerWou
10:08 < valentin> without creating a package ?
10:09 < SerWou> yes
10:09 < SerWou> without create a .desc
10:11 < valentin> i don't know about such an option and i doupt it exists :/
10:11 < valentin> doubt even
10:12 < valentin> maybe just create a short desc file without filling the [I] and [T] tags ?
10:12 < valentin> and move program.tar.bz2 to download/mirror/<.>/
10:13 < SerWou> yes, gonna do that
10:13 < SerWou> i was wondering, it could be fun just to test a bunch of programs
10:13 < valentin> if you have to much time, you could see if you can hack something with the build scripts to do that
10:14 < valentin> but i guess it is complicated in detail
10:14 < valentin> and it is better if you go ahead and create packages anyway !
10:16 < rxr> moin
10:17 < SerWou> motning rxr
10:18 < SerWou> hack something ? ;) gonna brake something instead of ;)
10:18 < valentin> moin rxr
10:18 < valentin> SerWou: hack a script that creates a desc file instead :)
10:19 < SerWou> ha ;)
10:20 < SerWou> smart
10:20 < SerWou> hummmm
10:20 < SerWou> a kind of questionnary
10:20 < SerWou> and it generate the .desc
10:20 < valentin> + chksum patch + copypatch
10:21 < SerWou> bash one and also, an online php version ;)
10:21 < valentin> yeah, a html form :)
10:21 < SerWou> yes
10:21 < SerWou> it could be fun if i knew something in programmation ;)
10:21 < SerWou> lol
10:21 < rxr> https://bookweb.kinokuniya.co.jp/iimgdata/large/0637173.jpg
10:23 < valentin> are you interessted in what article ?
10:24 < rxr> I have the current issue and there are letters complaining about the nudity of that issues cover
10:24 < rxr> I only google searched what they might be complaining about ...
10:24 < valentin> what nudity ???
10:24 < valentin> do they complain she still wears too much *g* ?
10:25 < rxr> valentin: for some US people this might be too few clothes already ...
10:25 < rxr> valentin: those that also elect this president named Bush
10:26 < valentin> yeah, some ppl with a personal sexual issue
10:26 < valentin> theese guys who say "we will pray for you" but wish you hell, because you have a better live than them...
10:26 < rxr> so - I think I packaged the most interesting archivers now
10:27 < rxr> lzma, lzop, rzip ...
10:27 < valentin> :)
10:27 < rxr> I so far missed lzop - must have overlooked that
10:27 < rxr> and lzma is also a nice unix a-like 7-zip thing - and I did not even know rzip exist ...
10:28 < rxr> Creating binary package file for fixesproto.
10:28 < rxr> -> Building build/.../pkgs/fixesproto-3.0.tar.lzo
10:28 < rxr> ,-)
10:29 < rxr> so - the harded to decide issue with X11R7 left is, where to include the /usr/X11 -> /usr/X1R7 symlink into ...
10:29 < rxr> idea anyone ?
10:31 * SerWou is hidden
10:31 < SerWou> not at all, sorry
10:31 < valentin> hum ?
10:34 < valentin> who packages with lzo today ?
10:35 < rxr> valentin: ?
10:35 < valentin> rxr: which package creating that link is build first ?
10:35 < rxr> I intend to build with .lzo packages
10:35 < rxr> lzo is so lightning fast ,-)
10:35 < rxr> valentin: we do not yet have a package build first
10:36 < rxr> formerly it was of course included in xorg
10:36 < rxr> X11 -> X11R6 at that time
10:36 < rxr> now we have 270 packages ...
10:36 < rxr> the first 20 just install header
10:36 < rxr> like fixesptoto and so on
10:36 < rxr> fixesproto
10:36 < rxr> none of that need the link
10:36 < rxr> the first package needing the link are packages that need a header or library ...
10:37 < rxr> but they are all so minor
10:37 < rxr> I hesitate a bit to add the symlink to those tittle packages
10:38 < valentin> why not creating a package X11R6-dirtree ;)
10:38 < rxr> where dirtree is only one symlink ?
10:38 < valentin> hihi
10:39 < valentin> well, not that good idea
10:39 < rxr> ok - I add it to xproto for now
10:42 < valentin> still too cloudy :(
10:42 < rxr> damn - need fresh, hot tea
10:42 < rxr> cloudy for what ?
10:42 * valentin hands rxr some
10:42 < valentin> to see the eclipse
10:54 < rxr> eclipse due clouds?
10:55 < valentin> http://exactcode.de/valentin/stellarium0.jpg
10:56 < valentin> this is what we would see out of our window in Berlin without athmosphere
10:56 < valentin> right now
10:56 < CIA-9> rene * r12239 /trunk/package/x11-modular/xproto/xproto.conf: * added X11Rx -> X11 symlink to xproto
10:59 < valentin> http://exactcode.de/valentin/stellarium1.jpg
10:59 < valentin> this is from portugal at theese
10:59 < valentin> minutes
10:59 < valentin> including athmosphere rendering (take a look at the halo/corona effects :)
11:01 < rxr> is that realtime GL or rendered?
11:01 < valentin> realtime
11:01 < valentin> the stellarium package i created tonight
11:02 < valentin> you can navigate through the sky in RT
11:02 < valentin> and zoom into the planets and their moon
11:04 < valentin> http://exactcode.de/valentin/stellarium2.jpg
11:04 < valentin> another background and around 7 o clock local time
11:04 < valentin> http://exactcode.de/valentin/stellarium3.jpg
11:05 < valentin> zoom into planetary detail
11:05 < rxr> never ever hand valentin such a toy ....
11:06 < valentin> :)
11:06 < valentin> i just find it quite amazing what some oss guys do with their freetime
11:06 < valentin> they entered coordinates for 120.000 space objects
11:06 < rxr> like those T2 freaks I assume ....
11:06 < valentin> yeah
11:06 < rxr> who is mad enough creating a whle OS for free ...
11:07 < rxr> apropos amazing - we need dep tracking some time soon
11:07 < rxr> modular X forms a very nice hundreds of package dep tree ...
11:07 < valentin> you can have it, once we agree how to handle loops
11:08 < valentin> my proposal: ignore all deps to toolchain basic packages
11:08 < valentin> second,
11:08 < valentin> while building stage X, ignore deps to all packages outside that stage
11:08 < valentin> third
11:09 < valentin> wile building stage X and there is a loop, break that loop at a package that exists from a prior stage
11:09 < valentin> what do you say ?
11:11 < rxr> I want to restructure the stage stuff anyway - that should help dep tracking a lot ...
11:17 < rxr> sorry big copyright patch beeing commited in some seconds
11:17 < rxr> (just in case competors want to rip out x11-modular work any time soon)
11:19 < CIA-9> rene * r12240 /trunk/package/x11-modular/ (269 files in 266 dirs): * copyright headers for the x11-modular packages
11:20 < valentin> rxr: they are allowed to rip it as long as they leave the copyright header
11:20 < rxr> yes - thus inject them quickly ,-)
11:26 < rxr> cool - new people on the t2 list ,-)
11:27 < valentin> what about this steve@itsage guy ? (almost?) no mail ever reaches him
11:27 < valentin> away for some minutes...
11:29 < rxr> you mean he is on the list and we get admin "mail not reached dest" mails back ?
11:29 < valentin> yes, for 2 months now
11:30 < valentin> bbl
11:30 < rxr> did miss that
11:30 < rxr> remove from list with vi
11:31 * rxr taking one moe hot path - damn sore throat - and then tea and s.th. to eat ...
11:32 < CIA-9> rene * r12241 /trunk/package/ (base/pkgconfig/pkgconfig.desc x11/freetype/freetype.desc): * build pkgconfig and freetype before the modular-X11 packages
11:37 < SerWou> ping valentin ?
11:49 < CIA-9> rene * r12242 /trunk/package/x11-modular/fontconfig/ (. fontconfig.cache fontconfig.desc): * added fontconfig (2.3.2)
11:49 < rxr> 2109 packages in tree
11:51 < rxr> The Wall (3SAT) 1
11:51 < rxr> Das legend?re Rockkonzert in Berlin
11:51 < rxr> (Aufzeichnung vom Potsdamer Platz, 1990)
11:51 < rxr> is that worth dumping to disk ?
11:51 < valentin> hm
11:51 < valentin> pong SerWou ?
11:52 < SerWou> i did what we talked about
11:52 < rxr> so far no built failure in my minimal-desktop-modular-x test build
11:52 < SerWou> i did a 0.0.1 version, i tested it with nano.desc it generated the same .desc file
11:53 < SerWou> wanna test it out ?
11:53 < valentin> where is it ?
11:54 < SerWou> http://serwou.free.fr/t2/
11:56 < valentin> why do you use Rene Rebe as default ?
11:56 < rxr> I think I'll dump The Wall on disk
11:56 * rxr bath - cu
11:56 < valentin> cu
11:56 * valentin too, visitors coming in one hour
11:56 < rxr> valentin: I think we just drop monolitic xorg from trunk then, right?
11:56 < valentin> rxr: if you'd like some soup, you can come over too
11:56 < SerWou> i use the default doc example
11:57 < valentin> rxr: if modular X works, why not ?
11:57 < rxr> valentin: I do not go out today ...
11:58 < valentin> SerWou: i'd like to fill in link to package url only, and the tool should split it up into two parts
11:58 < valentin> and the number in [D] is not package size but checksum
11:59 < valentin> cu later
12:00 < SerWou> well, i don't know anything in php, but i will try ;)
12:01 < SerWou> i just wanted to know if i should stop that crap, nobody will use it or make it better
12:36 < rxr> http://slim.berlios.de/
12:37 < rxr> ^- a c++ login manager
12:37 < rxr> I think I package it just for the fun of it
12:40 < rxr> == 12:26:41 =[5]=> Building x11-modular/xorg-server [6.99.99.900 2.2.0-alpha].
12:40 < rxr> -> Parallel build using 2 jobs enabled.
12:40 < rxr> -> Preparing build in src.xorg-server.test.20051003.122638.1946.idefix2
12:40 < rxr> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/5-xorg-server.out
12:40 < rxr> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-xorg-server.out -> 5-xorg-server.log
12:40 < rxr> == 10/03/05 12:43:02 =[5]=> Finished building package xorg-server.
12:40 < rxr> Creating binary package file for xorg-server.
12:40 < rxr> -> Building build/.../pkgs/xorg-server-6.99.99.900.tar.lzo
12:40 < rxr> that is on my tiny number crunching sub-notebook
13:39 < CIA-9> rene * r12243 /trunk/package/fonts/ (4 files in 3 dirs): * fixed font packages to refer to X11 not X11R6 which will be outdated soon
13:43 < SerWou> how to generate a checksum for the [D] tag in the .desc file please
15:12 < jsaw> SerWou: ./scripts/Create-CkSumPatch
15:12 < jsaw> SerWou: ./scripts/Create-CkSumPatch | patch -p1
15:25 < rxr> re
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16:13 < SerWou> thanks jsaw
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16:25 < keinek> hi
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17:29 < mnemoc> moin
17:34 < mnemoc> rxr: sunbird-0.2+ still not downloadable from gsmp
17:53 < rxr> mnemoc: hm
17:55 < mnemoc> hi rxr ;)
17:59 < CIA-9> rene * r12244 /trunk/package/x11/sunbird/sunbird.desc: * fixed sunbird custom checkout url
18:05 < valentin> re
18:05 < mnemoc> wb old man
18:06 < valentin> hi ol'mnemoc
18:06 < mnemoc> hi :)
18:13 < rxr> mnemoc: does it download now ?
18:14 < mnemoc> yes, downloading
18:14 < mnemoc> sloooooooow, but downloading
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18:33 < mnemoc> hi demian ;)
18:33 < demian> hi.
18:33 < mnemoc> great to see you around
18:33 < demian> it sounded interesting.
18:34 < owl> .oO( i love it - 2 people talking on different channels *g* )
18:34 < owl> hi demian :p
18:34 < demian> jaja. hi again owl :D
18:35 < owl> yeah, i love you too, demian :P
18:35 < demian> :D
18:38 < mnemoc> owl: :)
18:39 < demian> i see most of people here i met at rock are here.
18:40 < demian> and some other i dunt know..
18:40 < owl> *g* still there are not all pepople here, who are/were rockers...;p
18:42 < mnemoc> owl: are you using t2?
18:42 < mnemoc> or just idling here?
18:42 < demian> jaja.
18:42 < demian> she is talking with me, not idling :)
18:43 < mnemoc> :p
18:44 < owl> mnemoc: no, not using... wanted to use it on the ibm rs6000 but not bootable
18:44 < mnemoc> :\
18:44 < owl> yes
18:57 < rxr> cu later
18:57 < mnemoc> cu rxr
18:58 < demian> cyarsquare.
19:18 < demian> i got to work. have fun.
19:18 < demian> :)
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19:56 < _Ragnar_> rxr: did you fix the lzop stage 0 error?
19:58 < mnemoc> nothing has changed on that
19:58 < _Ragnar_> grmfl
20:05 < mnemoc> if you wont use lzo for packaging, remove it from stage 0
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20:18 < _Ragnar_> PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
20:18 < _Ragnar_> 17962 root 18 0 2766m 887m 108 D 17.0 88.6 0:28.15 sed
20:19 < _Ragnar_> on Create-Errlist
20:20 < mnemoc> uhm
20:20 < mnemoc> repeateable?
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20:37 -!- Topic set by vilkacis [] [Sat Sep 17 20:47:59 2005]
20:37 [Users #t2]
20:37 [ _Lewellyn] [ jsaw ] [ nzg_] [ rxr_ ] [ sparc-kly|XEON]
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20:42 < _Ragnar_> mnemoc: hmm for every package it seems
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20:49 < minto> hey folks
20:50 < owl> hi mnemoc
20:50 < owl> aeh. minto
20:50 < minto> :) hi owl
21:02 < minto> I am off again, cu all
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23:48 < _Ragnar_> where does PKG_CONFIG_PATH get set?
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00:54 < CIA-9> valentin * r12237 /trunk/package/graphic/stellarium/ (. stellarium.desc): * added package stellarium (v0.7.1)
00:59 < valentin> ^-- quite fascinating gimick: http://www.stellarium.org/screenshots.html
00:59 < mnemoc> :D
01:03 < valentin> especialy the effects on sunrise/sunset are quite nice, with the ground and background slowly turning into silhouettes
01:03 < valentin> btw: partial eclipse tomorrow
01:03 < valentin> it even simulates ligth effects for that (!!!)
01:04 < mnemoc> :-)
01:04 < mnemoc> sdl?
01:07 < valentin> wow - click location to portugal and take a look around 11:00 local time
01:07 < valentin> mnemoc: pure opengl if i understood that
01:08 < valentin> here in germany, we will only have 40% sun covered
01:08 < valentin> so one wouldn't even notice without looking up there
01:09 < mnemoc> :)
01:12 < valentin> wow - it even has different athmospheric effects for the different background landscapes
01:12 < valentin> this developer seems to have much free time
01:13 < valentin> and you can zoom into that pictures up to more or less detailed planet view
01:15 < mnemoc> i guess they work or study that
01:18 < valentin> as i understood that, the main developer is studying computer science
01:18 < mnemoc> oh
01:18 < valentin> however, the team needs much data about theese space objects
01:18 < valentin> you even see the planets moons in their right position
01:19 < valentin> and they have about 120.000 space objects in the database
01:19 < mnemoc> oh
01:20 < valentin> well, they sold it to some planetariums
01:21 < valentin> i wonder if you can zoom into ISS, too.
01:21 < valentin> i try :)
01:22 < valentin> hm, no satellite searchable
01:23 < valentin> need to sleep now
01:24 < valentin> cu
01:24 < mnemoc> gn8 old man
01:25 < valentin> old ?
01:25 < valentin> you are the same age old man
01:26 < mnemoc> :D
01:30 < valentin> cu later this day mnemoc.
01:31 < mnemoc> cu $tomorrow valentin ;)
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03:32 < keinek> hi
06:41 < CIA-9> amery * r12238 /branches/2.1/package/graphic/ghostscript/ghostscript.desc: * merged 12206 from trunk: updated ghostscript (8.15rc3 -> 8.15.1)
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08:44 < _Ragnar_> == 23:27:44 =[0]=> Building archiver/lzop [1.02rc1 2.2.0-alpha].
08:44 < _Ragnar_> !> configure: error: LZO header files not found. Please che ..
08:44 < mnemoc> lzop on stage 0? uhm.... so lzo should be there too :(
08:57 < _Ragnar_> same error when I build lzo on stage 0 too
08:57 < _Ragnar_> doesn't find the header files
08:59 < mnemoc> right prio?
08:59 < mnemoc> so this sh* doesn't work at stage 5 neither?
08:59 < _Ragnar_> yes it gets built successfully
09:05 < mnemoc> o.o
09:05 < mnemoc> i'll better go to sleep
09:06 < _Ragnar_> me too
09:06 < _Ragnar_> nini mnemoc
09:15 < mnemoc> gn8 _Ragnar_ ;)
09:28 < valentin> moin
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09:47 < valentin> too cloudy to see the eclipse :)
09:48 < valentin> s/:)/:(/
09:48 < valentin> well, i have to use stellarium
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10:06 < SerWou> hello
10:07 < SerWou> i wonder if there is a way to compile/Emerge a file stored on the Pc, something like "./script/Emerge-Pkg /home/serwou/program.tar.bz2" ?
10:08 < valentin> hi SerWou
10:08 < valentin> without creating a package ?
10:09 < SerWou> yes
10:09 < SerWou> without create a .desc
10:11 < valentin> i don't know about such an option and i doupt it exists :/
10:11 < valentin> doubt even
10:12 < valentin> maybe just create a short desc file without filling the [I] and [T] tags ?
10:12 < valentin> and move program.tar.bz2 to download/mirror/<.>/
10:13 < SerWou> yes, gonna do that
10:13 < SerWou> i was wondering, it could be fun just to test a bunch of programs
10:13 < valentin> if you have to much time, you could see if you can hack something with the build scripts to do that
10:14 < valentin> but i guess it is complicated in detail
10:14 < valentin> and it is better if you go ahead and create packages anyway !
10:16 < rxr> moin
10:17 < SerWou> motning rxr
10:18 < SerWou> hack something ? ;) gonna brake something instead of ;)
10:18 < valentin> moin rxr
10:18 < valentin> SerWou: hack a script that creates a desc file instead :)
10:19 < SerWou> ha ;)
10:20 < SerWou> smart
10:20 < SerWou> hummmm
10:20 < SerWou> a kind of questionnary
10:20 < SerWou> and it generate the .desc
10:20 < valentin> + chksum patch + copypatch
10:21 < SerWou> bash one and also, an online php version ;)
10:21 < valentin> yeah, a html form :)
10:21 < SerWou> yes
10:21 < SerWou> it could be fun if i knew something in programmation ;)
10:21 < SerWou> lol
10:21 < rxr> https://bookweb.kinokuniya.co.jp/iimgdata/large/0637173.jpg
10:23 < valentin> are you interessted in what article ?
10:24 < rxr> I have the current issue and there are letters complaining about the nudity of that issues cover
10:24 < rxr> I only google searched what they might be complaining about ...
10:24 < valentin> what nudity ???
10:24 < valentin> do they complain she still wears too much *g* ?
10:25 < rxr> valentin: for some US people this might be too few clothes already ...
10:25 < rxr> valentin: those that also elect this president named Bush
10:26 < valentin> yeah, some ppl with a personal sexual issue
10:26 < valentin> theese guys who say "we will pray for you" but wish you hell, because you have a better live than them...
10:26 < rxr> so - I think I packaged the most interesting archivers now
10:27 < rxr> lzma, lzop, rzip ...
10:27 < valentin> :)
10:27 < rxr> I so far missed lzop - must have overlooked that
10:27 < rxr> and lzma is also a nice unix a-like 7-zip thing - and I did not even know rzip exist ...
10:28 < rxr> Creating binary package file for fixesproto.
10:28 < rxr> -> Building build/.../pkgs/fixesproto-3.0.tar.lzo
10:28 < rxr> ,-)
10:29 < rxr> so - the harded to decide issue with X11R7 left is, where to include the /usr/X11 -> /usr/X1R7 symlink into ...
10:29 < rxr> idea anyone ?
10:31 * SerWou is hidden
10:31 < SerWou> not at all, sorry
10:31 < valentin> hum ?
10:34 < valentin> who packages with lzo today ?
10:35 < rxr> valentin: ?
10:35 < valentin> rxr: which package creating that link is build first ?
10:35 < rxr> I intend to build with .lzo packages
10:35 < rxr> lzo is so lightning fast ,-)
10:35 < rxr> valentin: we do not yet have a package build first
10:36 < rxr> formerly it was of course included in xorg
10:36 < rxr> X11 -> X11R6 at that time
10:36 < rxr> now we have 270 packages ...
10:36 < rxr> the first 20 just install header
10:36 < rxr> like fixesptoto and so on
10:36 < rxr> fixesproto
10:36 < rxr> none of that need the link
10:36 < rxr> the first package needing the link are packages that need a header or library ...
10:37 < rxr> but they are all so minor
10:37 < rxr> I hesitate a bit to add the symlink to those tittle packages
10:38 < valentin> why not creating a package X11R6-dirtree ;)
10:38 < rxr> where dirtree is only one symlink ?
10:38 < valentin> hihi
10:39 < valentin> well, not that good idea
10:39 < rxr> ok - I add it to xproto for now
10:42 < valentin> still too cloudy :(
10:42 < rxr> damn - need fresh, hot tea
10:42 < rxr> cloudy for what ?
10:42 * valentin hands rxr some
10:42 < valentin> to see the eclipse
10:54 < rxr> eclipse due clouds?
10:55 < valentin> http://exactcode.de/valentin/stellarium0.jpg
10:56 < valentin> this is what we would see out of our window in Berlin without athmosphere
10:56 < valentin> right now
10:56 < CIA-9> rene * r12239 /trunk/package/x11-modular/xproto/xproto.conf: * added X11Rx -> X11 symlink to xproto
10:59 < valentin> http://exactcode.de/valentin/stellarium1.jpg
10:59 < valentin> this is from portugal at theese
10:59 < valentin> minutes
10:59 < valentin> including athmosphere rendering (take a look at the halo/corona effects :)
11:01 < rxr> is that realtime GL or rendered?
11:01 < valentin> realtime
11:01 < valentin> the stellarium package i created tonight
11:02 < valentin> you can navigate through the sky in RT
11:02 < valentin> and zoom into the planets and their moon
11:04 < valentin> http://exactcode.de/valentin/stellarium2.jpg
11:04 < valentin> another background and around 7 o clock local time
11:04 < valentin> http://exactcode.de/valentin/stellarium3.jpg
11:05 < valentin> zoom into planetary detail
11:05 < rxr> never ever hand valentin such a toy ....
11:06 < valentin> :)
11:06 < valentin> i just find it quite amazing what some oss guys do with their freetime
11:06 < valentin> they entered coordinates for 120.000 space objects
11:06 < rxr> like those T2 freaks I assume ....
11:06 < valentin> yeah
11:06 < rxr> who is mad enough creating a whle OS for free ...
11:07 < rxr> apropos amazing - we need dep tracking some time soon
11:07 < rxr> modular X forms a very nice hundreds of package dep tree ...
11:07 < valentin> you can have it, once we agree how to handle loops
11:08 < valentin> my proposal: ignore all deps to toolchain basic packages
11:08 < valentin> second,
11:08 < valentin> while building stage X, ignore deps to all packages outside that stage
11:08 < valentin> third
11:09 < valentin> wile building stage X and there is a loop, break that loop at a package that exists from a prior stage
11:09 < valentin> what do you say ?
11:11 < rxr> I want to restructure the stage stuff anyway - that should help dep tracking a lot ...
11:17 < rxr> sorry big copyright patch beeing commited in some seconds
11:17 < rxr> (just in case competors want to rip out x11-modular work any time soon)
11:19 < CIA-9> rene * r12240 /trunk/package/x11-modular/ (269 files in 266 dirs): * copyright headers for the x11-modular packages
11:20 < valentin> rxr: they are allowed to rip it as long as they leave the copyright header
11:20 < rxr> yes - thus inject them quickly ,-)
11:26 < rxr> cool - new people on the t2 list ,-)
11:27 < valentin> what about this steve@itsage guy ? (almost?) no mail ever reaches him
11:27 < valentin> away for some minutes...
11:29 < rxr> you mean he is on the list and we get admin "mail not reached dest" mails back ?
11:29 < valentin> yes, for 2 months now
11:30 < valentin> bbl
11:30 < rxr> did miss that
11:30 < rxr> remove from list with vi
11:31 * rxr taking one moe hot path - damn sore throat - and then tea and s.th. to eat ...
11:32 < CIA-9> rene * r12241 /trunk/package/ (base/pkgconfig/pkgconfig.desc x11/freetype/freetype.desc): * build pkgconfig and freetype before the modular-X11 packages
11:37 < SerWou> ping valentin ?
11:49 < CIA-9> rene * r12242 /trunk/package/x11-modular/fontconfig/ (. fontconfig.cache fontconfig.desc): * added fontconfig (2.3.2)
11:49 < rxr> 2109 packages in tree
11:51 < rxr> The Wall (3SAT) 1
11:51 < rxr> Das legend?re Rockkonzert in Berlin
11:51 < rxr> (Aufzeichnung vom Potsdamer Platz, 1990)
11:51 < rxr> is that worth dumping to disk ?
11:51 < valentin> hm
11:51 < valentin> pong SerWou ?
11:52 < SerWou> i did what we talked about
11:52 < rxr> so far no built failure in my minimal-desktop-modular-x test build
11:52 < SerWou> i did a 0.0.1 version, i tested it with nano.desc it generated the same .desc file
11:53 < SerWou> wanna test it out ?
11:53 < valentin> where is it ?
11:54 < SerWou> http://serwou.free.fr/t2/
11:56 < valentin> why do you use Rene Rebe as default ?
11:56 < rxr> I think I'll dump The Wall on disk
11:56 * rxr bath - cu
11:56 < valentin> cu
11:56 * valentin too, visitors coming in one hour
11:56 < rxr> valentin: I think we just drop monolitic xorg from trunk then, right?
11:56 < valentin> rxr: if you'd like some soup, you can come over too
11:56 < SerWou> i use the default doc example
11:57 < valentin> rxr: if modular X works, why not ?
11:57 < rxr> valentin: I do not go out today ...
11:58 < valentin> SerWou: i'd like to fill in link to package url only, and the tool should split it up into two parts
11:58 < valentin> and the number in [D] is not package size but checksum
11:59 < valentin> cu later
12:00 < SerWou> well, i don't know anything in php, but i will try ;)
12:01 < SerWou> i just wanted to know if i should stop that crap, nobody will use it or make it better
12:36 < rxr> http://slim.berlios.de/
12:37 < rxr> ^- a c++ login manager
12:37 < rxr> I think I package it just for the fun of it
12:40 < rxr> == 12:26:41 =[5]=> Building x11-modular/xorg-server [6.99.99.900 2.2.0-alpha].
12:40 < rxr> -> Parallel build using 2 jobs enabled.
12:40 < rxr> -> Preparing build in src.xorg-server.test.20051003.122638.1946.idefix2
12:40 < rxr> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/5-xorg-server.out
12:40 < rxr> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-xorg-server.out -> 5-xorg-server.log
12:40 < rxr> == 10/03/05 12:43:02 =[5]=> Finished building package xorg-server.
12:40 < rxr> Creating binary package file for xorg-server.
12:40 < rxr> -> Building build/.../pkgs/xorg-server-6.99.99.900.tar.lzo
12:40 < rxr> that is on my tiny number crunching sub-notebook
13:39 < CIA-9> rene * r12243 /trunk/package/fonts/ (4 files in 3 dirs): * fixed font packages to refer to X11 not X11R6 which will be outdated soon
13:43 < SerWou> how to generate a checksum for the [D] tag in the .desc file please
15:12 < jsaw> SerWou: ./scripts/Create-CkSumPatch
15:12 < jsaw> SerWou: ./scripts/Create-CkSumPatch
15:25 < rxr> re
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16:13 < SerWou> thanks jsaw
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16:25 < keinek> hi
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17:29 < mnemoc> moin
17:34 < mnemoc> rxr: sunbird-0.2+ still not downloadable from gsmp
17:53 < rxr> mnemoc: hm
17:55 < mnemoc> hi rxr ;)
17:59 < CIA-9> rene * r12244 /trunk/package/x11/sunbird/sunbird.desc: * fixed sunbird custom checkout url
18:05 < valentin> re
18:05 < mnemoc> wb old man
18:06 < valentin> hi ol'mnemoc
18:06 < mnemoc> hi :)
18:13 < rxr> mnemoc: does it download now ?
18:14 < mnemoc> yes, downloading
18:14 < mnemoc> sloooooooow, but downloading
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18:33 < mnemoc> hi demian ;)
18:33 < demian> hi.
18:33 < mnemoc> great to see you around
18:33 < demian> it sounded interesting.
18:34 < owl> .oO( i love it - 2 people talking on different channels *g* )
18:34 < owl> hi demian :p
18:34 < demian> jaja. hi again owl :D
18:35 < owl> yeah, i love you too, demian :P
18:35 < demian> :D
18:38 < mnemoc> owl: :)
18:39 < demian> i see most of people here i met at rock are here.
18:40 < demian> and some other i dunt know..
18:40 < owl> *g* still there are not all pepople here, who are/were rockers...;p
18:42 < mnemoc> owl: are you using t2?
18:42 < mnemoc> or just idling here?
18:42 < demian> jaja.
18:42 < demian> she is talking with me, not idling :)
18:43 < mnemoc> :p
18:44 < owl> mnemoc: no, not using... wanted to use it on the ibm rs6000 but not bootable
18:44 < mnemoc> :\
18:44 < owl> yes
18:57 < rxr> cu later
18:57 < mnemoc> cu rxr
18:58 < demian> cyarsquare.
19:18 < demian> i got to work. have fun.
19:18 < demian> :)
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19:56 < _Ragnar_> rxr: did you fix the lzop stage 0 error?
19:58 < mnemoc> nothing has changed on that
19:58 < _Ragnar_> grmfl
20:05 < mnemoc> if you wont use lzo for packaging, remove it from stage 0
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20:18 < _Ragnar_> PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
20:18 < _Ragnar_> 17962 root 18 0 2766m 887m 108 D 17.0 88.6 0:28.15 sed
20:19 < _Ragnar_> on Create-Errlist
20:20 < mnemoc> uhm
20:20 < mnemoc> repeateable?
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20:37 -!- Topic set by vilkacis [] [Sat Sep 17 20:47:59 2005]
20:37 [Users #t2]
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20:42 < _Ragnar_> mnemoc: hmm for every package it seems
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20:49 < minto> hey folks
20:50 < owl> hi mnemoc
20:50 < owl> aeh. minto
20:50 < minto> :) hi owl
21:02 < minto> I am off again, cu all
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23:48 < _Ragnar_> where does PKG_CONFIG_PATH get set?
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